Was this movie mediocre or terrible?

>>84368822
Worse, it's boring.

>>84368822
>dub dubs
Could this be the BVS thread to end all BVS threads?

>>84368822

It was transcendent.

>>84368822
It's just a case of bad storytelling really. More terrible for having so much talent and potential and squandering it than being aggressively offensive to the senses, although there's a little of that too

>>84368822

The whole movie felt like it was trying to hit bullet points and be too many things, it was awful.

>>84368822
even worse, it was transcendent

>>84368822
I wouldn't have minded if it was just an hour longer

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>>84368822
Name 1 other """"""""""bad""""""""" movie that gets talked about this much

>>84368822
What element does a comment hs to contain to maximize the number of yous?

I thought of criticizing the dark colors and complimenting Lex Luthor as the only good thing

>>84369285
.

The only thing that confused people into thinking it was anything other than trash was the production values.

>>84369267
name another bad movie that is central to a multinational media conglomerate's gambit to make billions of dollars.

>>84369317
And Snyder's brilliant use of symbolism and allegory

>>84369267
Star Wars

>>84369381
No. It was entirely the fact scenes looked cool.

>>84369372
The Phantom Menace

>>84369372
Avengers

>>84369483
Ohh ok

>>84369267
Human centipede

>>84369592
>bad

>>84369187
This

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The most divisive films tend to be masterpieces

It was the first time I've ever cringed at Batman

>>84369693
I guess you haven't seen the Nolan trilogy yet

>>84368822
Both. It was entertainig in a low brow kind of way, but it barely had any scenes. All it had were moments and quips. It has very little rewatch value or any of those thing that make you invested in a narrative.

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Nuff said

>>84369746
D.C. Haters BTFO

>>84369267
>.
If you had made Sherlock Holmes x Adolf Hitler it would be the most discussed movie of 2017

>>84369693
WHERE ISHH THE TRIGGER

>>84369832
especially if that conflict was only a tiny fraction of the film and the rest was pure wank

not to mention a plot line dealing with a series of telegrams introducing the league of extraordinary gentlemen cinematic universe.

>>84368822
Thing is, it was a good movie, it was literally "2deep4" some, but it just didn't fit, we'd much rather have a fun DC flick with soem dark undertones, than this.

You can blame Nolan for making DC the edgy teenager that it is today.

>>84370270
nolan took the batman formula and stripped it down to something that could actually work in the "real" world.

snyder didn't understand any of this, despite being tapped to continue what nolan was doing.

It was fine, particularly the Ultimate cut

But comic/superhero fanboys are the most toxic demographic, sperging out if expectations are not adhered to

>>84370270
It's funny because i can agree it may have been
"2deep4U" for some people but it's still an incredibly puerile and poorly told story

>>84370330
but dude the production values were great so it had to have been great too

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Which kino had deeper philosophical content and more meaning allusions

BvS or That 70s Show?

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/tv/ is full of posters who are that critical combination of stupid, but with a massive superiority complex

While most people who watched BvS grew weary of Snyder beating us over the head with his on-the-nose symbolism (literally, in the case with Doomsday and the monument), BvS fans convince themselves that they were the only ones who "got it". This creates cognitive dissonance. Discussing the movie becomes a way of asserting their own intelligence, with increasingly absurd connections and interpretations being drawn out in essay-length posts of gibberish.

Most people were put off by Goyer's terrible dialogue, the messy plot, the dour characters, the shoehorned DCEU shilling and the tonal and editing issues. But to a BvS fan, the only reason somebody wouldn't enjoy the movie is if they didn't understand it.

>>84370491
explains all the bvs praise tbqh

>>84368822
it was pure unadulterated kino by Zack "Kubrick" Snyder

>>84370270
Yes a movie written by the same guy who gave the world the line "some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill" wrote a deep an intellectual movie.

This movie was a complete shit show, with inconsistent and hypocritical motivations and actions, a click bait name, and visuals that could easily be confused with any action movie made in the last 10 years.

I'd love to believe that the posters who claim to like it are trolling.

>>84370491
other than not knowing what cognitive dissonance means you're right

>>84370553
It was shilling originally then the retard contrarians ran with it

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>>84368822
they should really just give Batman back to Burton

>>84370521
To be fair that line was said in casual conversation by Wesley Snipes off-screen and the director decided to use it in the film.

>>84370553
believe what you want, redditor

It's exhausting, Lex Luthor learned of both Batman and Superman's identities off screen which without the viewer knowing this piece of info makes it nearly incomprehensible, and it has little to no rewatchability.

BUT I liked it well enough. The idea of a Rated R Superman film still makes me laugh but for the most part, it's a solid film considering the subject material and the modicum of respect these cape characters were given.

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>>84370466
Archer. The scene serves a purpose in demonstrating the insanity of Barry/Dutch and is more than just a cute reference for people to gawk at.

at least the stakes are high in DC movies and BvS. people die in these movies unlike marvels children universe. even the marvel villians survive and have dance-offs.

>>84368822
there was nothing wrong with the movie. Most people just fell for the shills over at marvel. Amazing how easy you can brainwash people.

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>>84370666
>But here’s the best part, according to the director’s commentary for the film, that line wasn’t in any version of the original script. It was just something a screenwriter (David S. Goyer) overhead Wesley Snipes saying while casually talking to a friend on the phone, in full Blade costume. After overhearing the line, the screenwriter hastily added it to the script because shit, it was better than anything they’d written up to that point.

>>84370842
Just about every single Marvel villain so far is dead, actually. Including the one who was involved in that dance off.

>>84370884
That's what i fucking said though

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>>84368822
pretty shitty movie and all the ironic meta memeing spawned cretins like pic related

>>84370842
What did you not see the end of BvS or are you just that willfully ignorant?

>>84370975
>director=screenwriter
Fucks sake.

>>84370931
what about GOTG2? fucking pacman

LMAOING

>>84370604
the pasta is accurate in it's usage of the term. in this context it's the mental armor that's keeping people from seeing any flaws in bvs because of how the idea of being alone in "getting" the movie makes them feel about themselves.

This is of course assuming praise of bvs is neither ironic nor paid.

>>84371076
... okay? they still killed the villain which is what we were talking about

>>84370666
thanks for the info, satan

>>84370842
MCU Antagonists dead:

Iron Monger
Whiplash
Killian
Dark Elf King
Alexander Pierce
Ronan
Ultron
Purple Man
Ward
Hive
Hannibal Lector
Ego

Protagonists dead in the MCU:

Quicksilver

Antagonists dead in the DCEU:

Zod
Zod again
Sony's God of War

Dead DCEU protags:

Slipknot as a joke

>>84370981
hes talking about all the non-entity figures that were murdered by batman and lex

hes also ignoring the fact the last half the movie has zod being brought back from the dead as a giant giga-zombie.

>>84371008
Boo fucking hoo, Snipes invented the line, not Goyer. Goyer is still a hack

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In a market saturated with boring, one-dimensional, post-camp, ironic superhero stories, this is one that actually aims to be about something and stubbornly refuses to laugh at itself. The problem of evil in religion, the nature of democracy, the state of modern media, fear of power and rejection of outsiders: all feature heavily and enrich the film, but play second fiddle to a simple story of loss, maternal love and the quiet power of hope. There are some welcome breaks from Snyder's distinctive visual style with arresting flashes of colour and a dialling down of slow-motion. The visual dynamism is palpable, but still unswervingly serves the script. Callbacks to Kubrick and Bergman actually feel earned, rather than just glamorous posters used to cover up the cracks in a dorm room's walls. This feels like a thematic culmination for Snyder: the conflict between religion, bureaucracy and machismo from 300, the feeling of parental loss and dream realities from Sucker Punch, which was dedicated to his late mother Marsha and the deconstruction of superheroics from Watchmen. There are few directors working today who could pull off such a monumental undertaking with such fearless style and commitment to singular vision, irrespective of commercial pressures.

>>84368981
This.

>>84371647
the problem, of course, is how it is so completely sophomoric in all it's attempts at "higher" themes that it's refusal to laugh at itself pushes it out of laughable and just plain embarrassing. As just about everyone has gone through a rather shit-headed phase where they thought they knew everything and had it all figured out, when, at best, they were just spouting gibberish at themselves and others.

>>84371647
what kind of terrible meme pasta is this?
anyone can write shit like this that sounds smart but it isn't.

>The problem of evil in religion
by that one scene where batman beats the baddies in desert land? seriously?

> the nature of democracy
because he ripped people not necessarily liking the superheroes from watchmen? watchmen actually had this weigh on the characters in some way. without that it's meaningless.

>the state of modern media
then make a film about that. make something like Network. i don't understand how there can be a bit of "media" in a film and people eat it up like it's a huge statement of some kind. you're reading into stuff that isn't there

> fear of power and rejection of outsiders
you already covered this, badly and so vaguely as to be totally meaningless.

>simple story
yes the story of batman fighting superman

> of loss, maternal love and the quiet power of hope.
because of "her name is martha"? one convenient line said in order to have a big cgi battle is not the same as making a focused movie

>There are some welcome breaks from Snyder's distinctive visual style with arresting flashes of colour and a dialling down of slow-motion
do you mean zack snyder stopped using so many zack snyder signature techniques because he realised that every technique he's known for makes films worse?

> Callbacks to Kubrick and Bergman actually feel earned,
that's not what callback means. that's not what a callback is. if you're going to pretend to know what words mean, look them up first

>rather than just glamorous posters used to cover up the cracks in a dorm room's walls
god this prose is just so purple it's cringeworthy

> the feeling of parental loss and dream realities from Sucker Punch
sucker punch was just about meaningless action scenes with zero stakes. "dream realities" existed to serve the idea that "cool stuff blowing up and people being killed" can carry a movie. which they can't

>>84371647

>which was dedicated to his late mother Marsha and the deconstruction of superheroics from Watchmen.
"deconstruction of superheroics from Watchmen"? snyder never understood the source material for watchmen. he just hit the plot points and directed it like a music video because he had no idea what the audience was meant to feel at any given moment. watchmen was itself a deconstruction of the superhero genre. how exactly is BvS a deconstruction of that deconstruction? you're just throwing words around without understanding what they mean, hoping that other people also don't understand what they mean.

>There are few directors working today who could pull off such a monumental undertaking with such fearless style and commitment to singular vision
singular vision? you just said the vision was

> problem of evil in religion
> the nature of democracy
> the state of modern media
> fear of power
> rejection of outsiders
> flashes of colour
> visual dynamism
> Callbacks to Kubrick and Bergman
> bureaucracy
> machismo
> the feeling of parental loss
> dream realities
> deconstruction of superheroics

how is this a singular vision? the truth is that you pulled all those ideas out of your arse because you can vaguely link them with things that happen in the movie, i.e. "her name is martha" becomes "the feeling of parental loss", big cgi action fight becomes "machismo". you're just making shit up lol