Did /tv/ watch the new John Oliver episode? He made a good point

>>84316262
Science is for nerds.

America #1!

>>84316262
Nah, try reddit though, heard they kove him over there for his epic takedowns of Drumpf

Yes, vaccines are important and Trump is wrong on this issue. But seeing this owl-faced fuck arguing for vaccines almost makes me want the bill to pass. People like Oliver have no idea how much they damage their own cause.

>>84316343
>arguing for vaccines almost makes me want the bill to pass.
Such a rebel

>>84316262
Most Vaccines are a scam just look up how expensive they are.

>>84316384
most cancer treatments are a scam just look up how expensive they are.

>>84316262
But if you vaccinate your kid, isn't he vaccinated against that disease? Why do you care if I vaccinate my kid?

To take it a step further, fuck off.

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>>84316343
>i'm to kewl 4 vaccines and John Oliver!

>>84316343

yeah yeah yeah, go fuck yourself. nobody cares about your feels

>>84316450
Yea. Makes no sense.

>>84316343
>But seeing this owl-faced fuck
Oh boy.

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>>84316452
> lol sure showed that fat loser DRUMPFtard #resist

>>84316329
you're a faggot huh.

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>>84316452
AND IT'S A RACE TO THE BOTTOM FOR BOTH SIDES! WHO CAN SPAM MORE STRAWMAN EXAMPLES OF THE OTHER SIDE TO FEEL BETTER ABOUT THEMSELVES!?!?

>>84316687
No, I'm straight. Why?

>>84316450

>Why do you care if I vaccinate my kid?

Because nobody wants your kid to be a harbinger of disease at the local daycare.

>>84316724
It wasn't a strawman. I was mocking him for being so brainwashed with his hatred of John Oliver and left wingers that he actually wants less vaccines and immunity.

>>84316450
Because when you come into the hospital with your brainlet kid dying of mumps, my newborn is at risk because of your pure idiocy.

If you tell me you'll never take your kid to a hospital when he gets polio though, I'll let it slide.

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>>84316642
Where did it go all so wrong?
Make no mistake the same thing happened to the right too see >>84316452

Do normal people just don't give a shit about politics anymore?

fuck vaccines and fuck john oliver

8 more years!!!!!!!!!

>>84316343
You do not sound very bright when your argument is how bothered you are about how someone makes you FEEL

>>84316812
Then that's the hospitals fault for not quarantining him properly.

>>84316919
No it's your fault for not doing everything possible to keep your kid healthy, you dumb twat.

Rather my kid get polio or chickenpox than autism from vaccines.

I had chickenpox as a kid and I turned out fine....

>>84316941
Why would you care if your kid is vaccinated? Are you saying that your precious vaccines aren't as effective as you'd like to admit?

>>84316998
You can't get certain vaccines until a certain age, moron.

>>84316919
>the only place where kids come into contact with each other is the hospital

>>84316919
Let's pretend that 1 in 10,000 kids die or are permanently cripped after being vaccinated.

Even then, it's a better option than catching fucking polio.

>>84316988
Most countries don't vaccinate against chicken pox, because the worst you can get from it is a few scars from itching.

>>84316988
B A I T
A
I
T

reminder if you go to american public school you already got vaccines. its too late. the mind control implant is already in place.

>>84317055
>Most countries don't vaccinate against chicken pox

Makes sense. See, idiots? You don't need vaccines.

If you don't vaccinate and your kid dies of a disease that has a vaccine then you should be charged with murder.

>>84317049
If your kid gets sick, it's your own fault for not vaccinating them.

>>84317208
But it's also your kid's fault for spreading the disease and your fault for not vaccinating your own kid.

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>vaccines don't cause autism lol, therefore all children should be vaccinated by law even if it's against the parents will
>"gender" isn't a choice lol, therefore parents who don't help their prepubescent child get HRT should have custody taken away

>>84317251
How can the disease spread if all the other kids are vaccinated?

>>84317270
kys

>>84317270
False equivalence.

>>84316750
If all those other kids are vaccinated, why does it matter?

libshits dont care about other people, they just want tha gubbmint to have as strong of a grip on people's lives as they possibly can.
>b-but muh spreadin disease mudafucka
what the fuck is the point of a vaccine if it doesn't prevent the disease from spreading from someone whos unvaccinated.

>>84317358
A vaccine doesn't cure you and it can still affect children with it, If everyone has it you're okay. If not, there is a risk.

American's are literally the only ones arguing this because they are so anti intelligence.

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>>84316642
>Die Nazis, die

>>84317391
So vaccines don't work?

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>>84317357
The "equivalence" is the commies love for telling people what they can and cannot do. They're very democratic and tolerant when things go their way though.

>>84316998
what the previous guy said
also some people can't get vaccinated because of other health reasons.

>>84316882
Do you honestly think you're above that? Genuine question.

>>84317429
He says vaccines don't cure you, not that they don't work.

>>84316642
I support punching nazis (or any hate group, BLM included) but I'm pretty sure none of these people will ever have the balls to actually do it unless there are many people and cameras around. Not saying that I would have the balls but then I'm not the one advertising on social media.

>>84316450
>being this uninformed
I'm not surprised though

>>84317429
vaccine is not a cure, it's a trigger for your body to create anti-bodies.

I think i understand why vaccinating your kid is a smart choice to protect against sickness but can someone tell me why libsharts spaz over some parents decision to not vacc their kids? Kid A doesnt get vaccinated, kids B to Z do, kid A gets sick and now him and his parents have to deal with it meanwhile the other kids are fine. Whats the problem?

>>84317630
because some people can not get vaccinated for various medical reasons, also babies and elderly people with weak immune systems. those are the people your un-vaccinated child is a threat to. also stopping the eradication of preventable diseases.

>>84317630
People are dumb and shouldn't be given freedom over matters as important as these

>>84317585
> I support punching people for their opinions

(you)

>>84317455
>is the commies love for telling people what they can and cannot do.
That's not a commie trait, that's a trait of every successful society that's ever existed. If you want a libertarian free-for-all go an establish it somewhere else, don't fuck a functioning society to play out your thought experiment.

>>84316836
>How to be a drooling retard, the post

>>84317697
Shoo shoo libshitter

>>84317630
Because Kid A getting sick with a preventable illness, and keeping the illness in the general population, is still a threat to other people. Educate yourself mouth breather.

Doctor here. If you want your kid to live I recommend vaccination.

>>84317630
>>84317689
It's a concept called herd immunity and the reason is like the guy below you pointed out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

>>84317699
Yup, that's what I said, why are you acting as if you've gleaned some hidden message from my post.

People with stupid, destructive opinions that don't respect others need to be put in their place. Just like children need to be slapped now and then for acting like little shits.

If someone calls your wife or mother a slut in front of you, would you respect their "opinion"? A big part of a functioning society is that it has to keep destructive elements like nazis in check. The state should not police any opinions, society should and does.

>enforcing vaccines is now a commie trait because I'm free to do whatever I want

America never fails to win.

im so angry at the MSM

all my life i have just assumed vaccines were a nessesity, and for hte most part i still do, i still plan to get my kids vaccinated

but with all the fake fkn news around and seeing how the media shuts and shits on deniers it makes me second guess myself, what if this is just anotehr paid for thing the media is shilling fucking hard?

what if vaccinse are bad?

fucking hell

>>84317851
ALL OF THEM

>>84317523
>>84317618
Right. I never said they were a cure. So you get vaccinated and your body creates antibodies. Then some sick kid comes in and infects your child with that disease. So vaccines don't work after all?

>>84317905
What if you're just retarded?

remember when Jon Liebowitz had Jenny McCarthy on the Daily Show to talk about the dangers of vaccines?

>a British "comedian" who wasn't liked in Britain comes to America and talks about American politics and issues
Really dingles my dongle.

>>84316450

why do you human gimps exist? Herd immunity is something even cattle farmers know about. But you're completely stupid that you don't.

>>84317889
where exactly do you draw parallels between someone insulting a member of your family and and an ideology you that you subjectively dislike?

>>84317905
Media never shilled vaccines in the first place doctors and medical organizations did. And for good reason. The only reason the medias even talking about it is because people lost their faith in medicine.

>>84317930
Must be the vaccines.

>>84317923
Because the kid would still be fucking dangerous to himself and unvaccinated kids (which can be more than you think, since kids of different ages are in the same spaces all the time, for example, a hospital), and the father should be arrested for negligence. That shit can kill you, for fuck's sake!

>>84316343
Damn, you must be some kind of retard then if somebody you don't like agrees with you on an issue then you must change your side

>>84317969
Right to not do something >>...>> Right to dictate what other have to do
What's so difficult to understand?

>>84317905
we cant let vaccines get the nuclear codes.

>>84317988
So your kid is safe, you're concerned about the kids that aren't vaccinated?

>>84317923
read this you dumb fuck
>>84317689

>>84318011
see >>84317885
Educate yourself mouth breather.

>>84317889
>People with stupid, destructive opinions that don't respect others
Whoa... No kidding...

Good luck with the nazi punching anonymous /tv/ poster. If it's anything like these antifa vs trump voter (nazi) protests that have been happening over the last few months my money's not on you

I love his show. It reminds me how dumb burgers are.

Why would anyone want to live there?

My country has
> lowest crime rate
> Longest life span
> No immigration problems
> Faster internet
> Cute women
> Free to own firearms
> Medical care

I feel bad for them desu

>>84316642
Would tap "Die Nazis, Die" HAAAAARRRD!!!

Total 3.14 qt

>>84318064
Tax havens should be nuked.

>>84318011
Yes AND my kid can get the disease the other is carrying just by virtue of him being a new born or 2. Have you ever seen how vaccines are put in certain ages?

What the fuck happened? Vaccine deniers used to be a joke-

>>84318064
Fuck off you fucking mountain kike

>>84318107
>Vaccine deniers used to be a joke
They're still very much a joke.

>>84318107
the internet happened and idiots who would otherwise be isolated and laughed out of existence now found others like them and started breeding.

>>84317973
How is it different? If all opinions are sacred and deserve no physical reprimand, then what separates someone spreading nazi ideology or insulting your mother? Without the threat of physical violence my dislike for any insult towards my wife is also subjective.

It's your job to protect what you hold dear, your family and your society.
>>84318062
Learn to read.

>>84318125
It's ironic because ((they)) control your lands and laws

I bet your cock is snipped too ya cuck

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>>84318107
>muh deniers
This isn't a scientific discussion you fedora tipping teen. This is a political discussion, and your defending authoritarianism.

>>84318027
Those people should also take precautions and assume no one is vaccinated around them. That's just common sense. Use hand sanitizers, etc. Which is actually what they do already.

>>84318047
You're o my proving my point that apparently vaccinations don't work, according to what you keep saying and citing.

>>84318107
You allow your newborn out in public around a bunch of strangers that aren't vaccinated? Sounds like shit parenting desu. I'm not denying vaccinations working, I'm actually up to date on mine. You regards just can't form a real argument for them. I'm trying to help you guys out by making you form actual arguments that make sense, so when someone really does start arguing the merits of it, you won't look like a fucking retard.

>>84318148
Learn to stop being an autismo hat tipper with fruity lala power fantasies

>>84318181
>my freedom to do something that is evidently a danger to society and pure negligence

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>>84318181
>This isn't a scientific discussion
>a medical issue that effects everyone is not a scientific discussion
>even though vaccines have already been demonstrated to not be harmful

>>84318214
>You're o my proving my point that apparently vaccinations don't work
In what way?

>>84318226
Learn to read fag. I don't know if I have the balls to punch a nazi. But I support people who do. Just like I support people who punch a guy who called their wife a slut.

>>84318214
>Use hand sanitizers
because washing your hands will totally stop airborn shit...

>>84318268
Mandatory 20mins of light cardio a day would also save lives, probably even more. Should we get on that?

>>84318214
>You allow your newborn out in public around a bunch of strangers that aren't vaccinated? Sounds like shit parenting desu.

Come on, that's some shit reasoning if I ever saw one. First, it doesn't have to be newborn, never said so, second, it can be fucking anywhere if you don't enforce vaccines: a hospital, a public park, hell, a familiar meeting if a retarded cousing decides to bring in their children...

You clearly don't know how vaccines are enforced and how much harm a mere thing like this can do. Of course, your arguments are straight and solid. Ha!

>>84318307
sure but you not doing cardio won't kill others

>>84318307
A vaccine requires far less effort than daily exercise. You need to work on your analogies mouth breather.

>>84317885
that link says that the disease only affects non-immunized people. why do you care if people who don't get immunizations get infected?

>>84318181

>This is a political discussion, and your defending authoritarianism.

Nobody is forcing you to do anything.

Australia has the right idea for once - rendering parents of unvaccinated children ineligible for certain welfare and tax benefits. Vaccination rates have increased significantly as a result

What do you know, turns out parents care more about their welfare cheques than their kids.

>>84318358
Said many many many times in the thread: vaccines are not put all at once and spaces are not regulated by age.

>>84318358
because it might be some one I care about you goddamn reject

>>84318358
>why do you care if people who don't get immunizations get infected?
It can prevent the disease from being eradicated, and is also still a danger to people who are unable to get vaccinated, like the very young and elderly.

>>84318344
It will. It gives bad example. Very gullible people (old people and small children) could see it and think it's ok to be a slob, and die.
Same level of retarded argument.

>>84318281
>vaccines only work if everyone has them!
In that way. If I get vaccinated but they prove pointless unless everyone else gets them, they don't work.

>>84318292
What kind of shit is your kid getting vaccinated from that's airborne!?

>>84318335
See my first response of this post then if you're backing off the newborn or early as 2 years old aspect of your argument.

>>84318285
>I don't know if I have the balls to punch a nazi. But I support people who do
You fucking little shit, just been fishing for (you)s this whole time.

>>84318214

>Those people should also take precautions and assume no one is vaccinated around them.


WWWWWWWWWWWWHAT we've had entire diseases eradicated by vaccinations, which is the fucking goal.

the point isn't personal safety, it's the fact that these diseases shouldn't even be in our society to begin with.

>>84318434

>What kind of shit is your kid getting vaccinated from that's airborne!?

Measles, you muppet. You know, the shit that's spreading like wildfire through anti-vax communities.

You never really realize how worthless people are until you come to 4chan. You find the endgame of human garbage.

>>84318344
taxes pay for mandatory health care.
get sick from being fat.
strain healthcare.
people die from draining public funds.
oi vey better make it mandatory.

>>84318434
>If I get vaccinated but they prove pointless unless everyone else gets them, they don't work.
They clearly help you develop an immunity. You ok anon?

>>84318434
Polio? Chickenpox?

>so much autism in this thread
I'm very sorry your parents did this to you when they got you vaccinated.

>>84317923
>So vaccines don't work after all?
They do work, but you can't guarantee it works 100% of the time. Some kids will for whatever reason not be immunized.

Kids that have certain diseases or take certain medications can't get the vaccines they need. They are completely dependent on other kids being vaccinated.

>>84318493
This makes it official. The antivaccs win.

>>84316262
There may be shady shit with some parts of the vaccination 'business' but it's an overall good.

>>84316343
Fucking retarded snowflake nigger.

>>84318535
You let your kid out if they have an inmunity disorder? Sounds like bad parenting, desu.

>>84318434
The diseases are stronger when given a host, vaccines expose you to safer versions of those diseases but the stronger versions can still fuck you up if you're exposed.

NO ONE should be getting to the state where they're strong enough though, that's the point of vaccines you fucking idiot.

I'm more concerned that people that are even stupid enough to spout your shit aren't sterilized and put in camps to be honest.

>>84318463
Well, if you could read and follow a conversation (which I know can be hard if you're used to reddit) I wouldn't have gotten one from (you)

>>84318493
>rebbitors first week here

>>84318486
Oh, well that's good that your kid has been vaccinated then. You have nothing to worry about.

>>84318500
So they do work? So why are you so worried about those people who choose not to get vaccinated? You're running around in logical circles here. If they work regardless of herd immunity, you should be content. If they require every one to have them to make herd immunity then they're shit.

>>84318535
That's not how freedom works buddy.

>>84318565
To be honest (desu) you should fuck off and stop telling me what to do faggot.

>>84318613
you don't have the freedom to endanger others

links pls

>>84318630
You do.

>>84318493
Yes, I'm sure you're a virtuous individual incapable of doing any wrong

>>84318630
You literally do.

>>84318560
0/10

>>84318434
>If I get vaccinated but they prove pointless unless everyone else gets them, they don't work.
Yeah because smallpox is totally still a thing right

>>84318548
John Oliver went over that in the episode. He said the vaccines were okay even if the companies themselves were trying to do bad things.

>>84317630
>Kid A doesn't get vaccinated
Don't bring Kid A into this.

>>84318660
It was a joke.

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Friendly reminder that while most antivac posts in here are just for laughs, there's the possibility that some may be genuine, and there are people in the real world that have even dumber reasons for being an antivac cuck.

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>>84316343
>4chan contrarians becoming anti-vaxxers
Yeah that'll show those SJWs!

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>>84318680
>>>/mu/

>>84318688

Where's the laugh, you fucking idiot?

>neoliberal "reasoning"

>>84318688
Refute this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYfLlUlnH2c

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>americans literally argue against vaccination
You can't make this shit up.

>>84318493
Who was this directed towards?

>>84318688

The problem is that anti-vaxers are basically indistinguishable from shitposters.

>>84318662
You misread the post.

>>84318735
it's mostly liberal hippies like robert kennedy jr

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>>84316262
I blindly believed in vaccination for everyone. My son went in for his shots. He went into seizures and almost died from it. I feel differently about it now.

If the cure kills you, it isn't a cure. Much more honest research must be done. Are vaccines good for the majority of the population? Yes. Are they in their present form good for everyone? Unfortunately no.

My son thankfully fully recovered. Many peoples kids don't.

>>84318680
>>84318724
Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ9KYriPbU4

>>84318680
Kid A fucking sucks.
Except for National Anthem. That song is 10/10.

>>84318739

They can both leap into a woodchipper and die. I Don't give a shit if people are shitposting. I want them to physically die.

>>84318688
Nigga my state just had a fucking Measles outbreak because of retarded religious Somalians. I understand all to well how there are actual anti-vaxxers around us.

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>>84318816

>>84318725
It's called shitposting. They get a laugh out of watching you try to engage them in an argument while they pretend to be retarded.
Did you just fly in from reddit town?

>>84318735
>he's not American

What a shame

>>84318831
That was in the episode too. Like 42% of Somali newborns in Minnesota have measels.

>>84318777
>my wife's son
What did he mean by this?

>>84318842
what do they put in the tap water

vaccines aren't that important, not everybody needs one do you think you get infected out of thin air? We are making antibiotic resistant super diseases with people's paranoia over illness. Back then people who weren't immune to diseases died out and the ones that were immune passed on their genes. Now we have a bunch of faggots putting needles in themselves to deny natural evolution.

>>84318816
So much for the tolerant left.

>>84318871

“A feeble body makes a feeble mind. I do not know what doctors cure us of, but I know this: they infect us with very deadly diseases, cowardice, timidity, credulity, the fear of death. What matter if they make the dead walk, we have no need of corpses; they fail to give us men, and it is men we need.”

― Jean-Jacques Rousseau

>>84318854

You're not explaining anythign to me, dipshit. I'm saying you're a fucking piece of shit regardless. Why do you think you don't look like a child having a tantrum. That's shitposting. A fucking idiot having a tantrum and thinking he's 'clever'.

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>>84318779

>>84318887
WOW WHY WON'T YOU RESPECT MY RIGHT TO NOT VACCINATE MY PROPERT-I MEAN, MY CHILD!?

>>84318887
Why don't you back on /pol/ and brigade a 15 year old?

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>oppose freedom to not vaccinate your children
>support freedom to kill unborn children
Libruls really tickles my pickle

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>>84318916
Tell me where the shitposters touched you anon.

>>84318916
HEAD, NICE AND HOT

>>84318887
Refusing to vaccinate your child in some instances should be seen as neglect.

>>84318913
Preach it sister

>>84318777
Fuck your trips, Pai Mei

>>84318978
How dare you infringe on my right to neglect my child.

>>84318605
NO, no one is safe around anti-vaxer's these diseases are still dangerous when infected fucking zombies are running around with diseases no one should be having infecting decent fucking people that are just trying to live their lives.

Vaccines are a safety measure not a catch-all, if everyone is safe then they're doing their job if one person isn't, safe no one is.
>>84318627

I'm not going to fuck off, I'm going to tell you what to do because you don't know any fucking better, you're a walking talking child.

Worst part is, it's too late to infect you with polio because you're already reaping the benefits of the vaccine.

>>84318924
>no one should have rights


>>84318936
?

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>>84318973
>>84318973
kek

>>84318950
>oppose freedom to abort unwanted pregnancies
>support freedom to abuse children

>>84318950
There's a clear line of logic.

>>84318936
> brigade

Literally plebbitspeak. It's clear where you're originally from

>>84318978
Which brings us to the next talking point. Refusing to raise your child with strong liberal values should also be seen as neglect. Remember, conditioning starts at home!

>>84316384
My mother is a scam just look up how expensive she is

>>84319065
Nobody is saying that, you mong. You think polio gives a shit who you voted for in the last election?

>>84319065
>refuses cultural degeneracy
>validates biological degeneracy

What did the good ol retard mean by this?

I wonder if you people as as physically gibbled as you are emotionally. You sound like flippant, angry and stupid malformed gimps.

>>84319065
Sorry you got polio and mumps little timmy, but I just had to express my personal freedom, you understand right?
>MUHMUANAAA-drrrrr *fires up wheelchair to get away from you*

>>84318950
It's pretty clear that liberals just want to kill or make white babies autistic while browns and blacks keep pumping them out and making America browner and poorer.

>force children to get vaccines
>don't force children to exercise

lmao burgers

>>84317923
Because even if they work 99.99% of the time you'll have 1/10000 kids getting sick despite the vaccine, meaning you require HERD IMMUNITY to protect them.
And not all vaccines are doable at every damn age.
Do you have any idea why smallpox was eliminated, you fucking retarded cunt?

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>>84319005
>I'm not going to fuck off, I'm going to tell you what to do
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

>>84319065
I'm not saying that. A better comparison would be like refusing your kid food. Teach your child any political ideology that isn't violent.

>>84318181
Is arresting you for having unprotected sex while being contaminated with HIV (and having not warned your partner beforehand) authoritarianism?
No. Because you are commiting a crime against that person.
Not vaccinating is parental neglect AND a crime against society as whole.

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>>84319169
Keep quoting the antivax wikipedia article. It won't make a difference.

>>84318871
Vaccines have nothing to do with antibiotic-resistant strains, holy shit neck yourself.

>>84316262
Wtf I hate vaccines now.

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Yeah that's right Trump! Show those fucking librals and SJWs!

>>84319309
gotta take the bad with the good.

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>>84318107

>>84319295

This is how you learn you're a complete moron. Like, you should have been drowned by your family before you became a person.

>>84319215
Being a communist is parental neglect AND a crime against society as whole.

Fucking vaccine debates always being out the mouth foaming reddit retards calling for death of nonbelievers. What is it with the left and being fucking retarded savages?

>>84318871
vaccinations and anti-biotics are two different things

>>84319357
Ugh I cant even....just, ugh, how gross and toxic they are.

>>84319340
Newfag. Get fukked lol.

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>>84319309
>posting the edited one

>>84319357
I always wonder if everyone discussing the issue is a medical expert or if they just blindly trust everything they're told.

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>>84319357
Why do the retards that don't believe in vaccines always out themselves as conservatives as if that gives any credibility to them or their ideology?

>>84316421
It's like you were trying to make a joke but inadvertently stumbled upon the truth.

>>84319309
so is that what happened to him?

seriously though there are no such proven cases, just parents who don't want to admit their own genes rekt their kid, MUST HAVE BEEN THAT DOCTOR THAT DONE IT

>>84319243
>The right to bear arms has anything to do with commiting parental neglect
Yep. You are retarded.

>Quoting antivax
Nigga, it's simple scaling. In a world with billions of people, a 99.99% effectiveness still puts hundreds of thousands at risk due to your stupidity.

Now here buddy: Weapons don't kill people. People kill people. Oh, and Infuenza, smallpox, polio, those do as well. Thank you for helping spread them.

>>84319420
They believe in vaccines but they also believe they've been compromised for money and eugenic purposes. Of course the government would never do evil, so it's really laughable.

>>84319344
Would you defend your right to let your 6 year old kid drive a truck as well?
I'm not a communist for defending that endangering minors should be a fucking crime, but you are definitely a moron for defending shitty parenting that affects -other peoples' kids - as well as your Shithead Jr.

>>84319420
Also the left is full of retarded savages. If you're not a retarded savage, your chances of being a lefty go way down, so using some basic logic you can see how you're pretty fucking dumb.

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What are some movies where the good guys win in the end and stem off a savage invading sub-human enemy invasion?

>>84319357
>anyone who believes i taking vaccines is on the left

This retarded shit only exists in the anti-intellectualism shitpot of America.

>>84316262
If you disagree with vaccination simply to continue sucking Trump's dick you are a literal retard

>>84319540
Don't change topics. The vaxers are getting BTFO.

>>84319531
america is full of retarded savages, left and right is irrelevant.

>>84319531

you know how fucked up you are and apply it to the opposition. I love you mentally mangled fuck ups. You're so transparent.

>>84319551
Nice reading comprehension, dumb faggot.

>>84319551
Pretty much only retarded americans believe this shit.
Jamal and Ruckus both hate the government for enforcing common sense laws: Jamal wants the freedom to rob and kill bystanders while Ruckus wants the freedom to infect his kids with deadly diseases.

>>84319590
you sound like one of those degenerates that trusts fire.

>>84319333
with the good being uhhhhhh

>>84319590
The left more so by a huge margin. Do you not see how this election has gone?

>>84319606
Uh huh Freud, whatever you say. Retarded savages.

>>84316343
>being so contrarian you're an actual fucking retard

10/10

>>84319447
Trumplore heavily implies that Barron has autism. Trump believes barron got his autism from vaccines.

It's a tragic tale really...

>>84319637
You sound like an injun who thinks it's okay for him to act like a savage and that the government should stay out of it.
Do you also like diddling kids and doing drugs, degenerate fuck?

>>84318005
>lul fuck people who for medical reasons can't be vaccinated

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>>84319699
>1% of the population has peanut allergy
>ban assault peanuts just in case an allergic eats one by accident

>>84318005
So if you were a minor and your parents were Jehovah Witnesses and you needed a blood transfusion, would you gladly accept dying because they won't let you have it?

>>84319447
Because you can't sue the government in civil court, only their special court, which they have agreed to compensation for damages to children caused by vaccines. Also the government has no incentive to link vaccines and harm because they'd have a huge problem on their hands.

It's like this shit is so easy to understand yet people have a huge blind spot.

>>84319725
What do you think labels are for?

>>84316262
Hasn't it been proven that vaccination basically doesn't do anything? And usually after you get the flu shot you get sick.

>>84319725
>le false equivalency meme

>>84319357
Because if you don't vaccinate you are literally endangering not only your own children, but everyone else too. Not everyone is able to vaccinate, they have allergies or medical conditions that prevent them from doing so. If every who can get vaccines do then these people get protected.

There have been cases where diseases that haven't popped up for years, like measles, have had sudden outbreaks because retards refuse to vaccinate. In India fucking polio reemerged and was only stopped because people there were vaccinating

>>84319725
Not how it works.

It would be more like you covering your kid in peanut dust and sending him to a daycare.
A peanut allergy can be avoided, a fucking airborne disease from your little dipshit Nergal servant can't.

>>84316262
He's a DNC hack who has never once brought up the fact that they put their thumb on the scale for Hillary to screw over Sanders. Fuck him. Establishment comedians are shit.

>>84317473
Genuine answer: Yes, I am above that. Whether something is a fact or not, and the importance of that fact, is not skewed by who says it.

>>84319793
Vaccines are good but prone to large amounts of fuckery. It's sad, really.

>>84319793
It's been too long since the epidemics of the 19-20th century.
Maybe we should ban vaccines and let millions die so these retards can shut the fuck up.
Refresh the collective memory.

>>84319787
Wut? The whole point of the vax is to get sick and to build antibodies.

>>84319793
Also they hype the dangers of no vaccines to stupid levels. Most of the shit they fear monger with are nothing burgers and obviously pushed for other reasons, be it money or whatever the fuck the reptilian overlords feel like doing this year.

>>84319853
>The whole point of the vax is to get sick

Well then just skip the vaccine and let me get sick on my own.

>>84319725
This is such an utterly retarded analogy. If you're allergic to peanuts all you have to do is avoid products with peanuts in them. You can't distinguish who is immunized from who isn't

I want to chip in and say that balding is the worst possible for a man. Thick-rimmed glasses is the third worst.

I am exctatic that betaorbiter numales are sad every day at the university because now they cant get affirmative action from females.

>>84316262
I don't let 'comedians' tell me what to think

>>84319787
Go back to high school. Vaccines, in a very simplified way: cause a milder form of a disease to create immunity and prevent you from getting the actual disease.
And about not working, do you think polio and smallpox just fucked off into the aether or some shit?

>>84316343

Lost it at owl-faced fuck
>ty for the new bantz

>>84317585
>>84317889
>>84318148
>>84318285
kys, commie

>>84319892
It's a milder form, moron. It's not the actual disease but something that is survivable without any serious collateral effects and lets you shrug off the actual lethal or serious form.

>>84317851

But doesn't Earth have a population problem anyways? Why do I care if a bunch of unhealthy pleb shits get disease and die?

>>84316343
>When you are so contrarian you go full retard.

>>84319795
You can: move to a commie country where people are forced to undergo medical procedures.

>>84320103
>Dying from these diseases means being unhealthy
Oh boy. I guess Europe was just a bunch of untermensch when they died from some silly asian plague.

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>>84318878

>>84320012

>tfw you realize they've cured nothing since Polio yet are still touted as the solution for ailments mostly generated by poor diets/poor genetics/being poor
>tfw you realize the corporations pushing for mandated vaccines have a vested financial interest more in their sale than in their success
>tfw you wonder why the same groups pushing for vaccines also promote the Global Overpopulation myth

I r confused famalam

Lets face it, it's rich white people with new age values who do not vaccine their kids. Let it be so, the money can be used instead for actual curing, let's say giving necessary treatments for transpeople. We are overpopulated anyway and can do with a few lrss privileged babies.

>>84318936
Go back to r/politics, retard

>>84316780
>posts strawman picture
>it wasn't a strawman

>>84319640
Hi re-ddit.

MODS MODS MODS!

/pol/
/r/marxism

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>>84320152
>the pinnacle of alt-right glory is bashing in the face of some frail communist

>>84316343
>>84316450
>>84316421
>>84316384

>American education.

>>84317905
No vaccine is going to cure how retarded you are, don't worry.

>>84320148
Are you a Jehovah Witness? Would you defend the "right" to stop your kid from getting any blood transfusions?

Totally not parental neglect, right? Only commies would tell you that is essentially murder.

Denying life-saving health treatments to your child makes you such a freedom fighter! Dumbfuck Jr. Is now Free from living!

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>>84316262
>you will never be sterilized under the guise of vaccinations

>>84320233
lol You sound upset. It sucks to be reminded how you can't even defend your disgusting whores, huh?

>>84320233

>the pinnacle of university socialism is beating a man in the head with a bikelock

Stay fat

>>84320163
Measles were getting eliminated in the Americas in 2001-2003, but with people like you pushing this shit and liberals importing sick third worlders, they are now proliferating again.
Really makes me think.

>>84316343
>the funny man on tv acts smug
>lol, I hope my fellow Americans die without health care

of course you voted Trump, you hateful faggot

>>84320150
>instead of citing a recent disease that vaccines have eradicated he reverts back 500 years before vaccines were even thought of

What did he mean by this?

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>>84320246
I would defend the right of others to not have to give their blood. Absolutely yes.

>>84320270
Don't blame your lame dick on the government, Ricky.

>>84316343
>cutting off nose to spite your own face
>having conservitards shit in your mouth just so liberals have to smell it

Why are memeing trump fags so obsessed with identity? Who Oliver is or isn't is fucking meaningless. I don't want to have to deal with Spanish flu part 2 in a few years because anti vaxxer fags make it easier for these diseases to come back. His personal identity is meaningless. What matters is the content. You guys are always saying that liberals unfairly do character assassinations instead of listening to what people have to say but you do it just as much.

>>84316450
how do people this stupid exist? You haev all of humanities knowledge at your fingertips. You live in the richest and most powerful country in the world and you have advantages that people in Kenya or India would kill their firstborn's to have and yet you are seriously this stupid?

Look here are 10 bullet points from the CDC. A well respected group of experts with both liberals and conservatives who keep our country safe from disease. Please take a look at it:

https://www.cdc.gov/features/adultvaccinations/index.html

>>84320326
>measles were almost eradicated they were at 97% eradication dey dey

I'd like some hard data on this. Also,
>forcing me to pay for vaccinations (many that have had no case studies done) because we don't have a secure border and let in diseased shitstains ad nauseum

Really alleviates my almonds bruh

>>84320359
>Not give
What?
That's not what you are defending, you are defending denying your child the already available (and voluntarily donated) blood.

The treatment is there, and you are not letting them having it. That means you are killing them.

>>84320340
Influenza, siphilis, polio, smallpox.

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>>84320333
>hateful
That's an odd way to spell rational.

>>84320375

>posts CDC
>an openly racist, only whites recruiting fearmonger central

Yeah, my kid still doesn't need those vaccines. Continue to fuck off, drumpfkin

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>>84318429

>>84320410
Will you stop being a memeing retard now?

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/faqs.html#been-eliminated

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/1787786

Muh hard data!

Just curious, are you a scientist? If not, do you even have the capacity or training to understand and interpret medical data in the first place? Or are you just some dumb ass high schooler?

>>84320438
>LE THIS PERSON I DONT LIKE DOESNT LIKE THIS THING THEREFOR I LIKE THIS THING

ah yes how rational

>>84320410
CDC data publically available:
Although measles is no longer endemic in the United States, imported cases continue to cause occasional limited transmission of measles. Even limited transmission can result in measles-associated deaths. The small number of import-linked cases after an importation demonstrates that population immunity to measles in the United States is sufficiently high to avoid sustained transmission of measles virus (9). The high levels of immunity result from high levels (i.e., >90%) of vaccine coverage with 1 dose of MCV among preschool children (10) and the required 2 doses of MCV for children attending school. Maintaining high levels of immunity through high vaccine coverage levels is essential to limit spread from imported cases and prevent measles from again becoming endemic in the United States. In addition, encouraging and assisting other countries to improve measles control can reduce the risk for importation.

And yes, the borders SHOULD be controlled.

>>84320410
Have you tried turning it on and off again?

Muh chicken pox as a kid
Muh dont get vaccinated cause you dont need it
Muh overpopulation

Enjoy your shingles outbreaks you fucking morons. BUT I NEED MUH LYRICA.

>>84320569
It should also be a point of national pride. When South Sudan has higher immunization rates than parts of fucking California, it's an embarassing problem.

>>84316343
What sort of retarded faggot are you?

This thread proves you can't argue with conservatives because they just post meme pictures and misunderstand basic scientific concepts to push nonsense like antivax.

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>>84320428
I don't give a shit about vaccinations, blood transfusions or dying babies. Vaccines could give immortality and eternal wisdom. I would still be 100% against forcing shit on people and "crimes against the common good".

>>84320613
So you would rather force measles and polio on people, got it.

Why can't conservashits ever understand logic beyond the immediate consequence?

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>>84316262
>it's a "not /pol/ I swear" thread getting triggered at John Oliver being factually correct again, episode

The government comes in, tries to vaccinate everyone. The people scream: eugenics! GENOCIDE! THE GOVERNMENT LIES!
They revolt, because the government does not want to cure them, the government wants to keep them down.

That's not America. That's Brazil in the 30s, when a bunch of niggers revolted over being vaccinated.

That's all you are. A bunch of subhuman brazilian-tier niggers.

See y'all at the hospital, Jamal & Cletus.

>>84320502
http://www.nfid.org/about-vaccines/reasons
http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/features/why-adults-need-vaccines#1
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vaccinations/Pages/reasons-to-have-your-child-vaccinated.aspx
http://www.immunizebc.ca/facts-on-immunity/why-immunize
http://www.euro.who.int/en/health-topics/disease-prevention/vaccines-and-immunization/vaccines-and-immunization

How about now? I mean you clearly have a double digit IQ if you think anyone in the CDC gives a fuck about your race but humor me. Are all the organizations above part of this invented conspiracy too?

>>84320613
You are responsible for your child.
Failing to protect them, and instead willingly endangering them, is an infringement on your child's rights and freedoms

You are defending nothing but your right to mistreat your kids.

Wait, as an adult you don't want X or Y health treatment? Fine. Otherwise, if it's about your kids: don't be a moron.

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>>84320660
Good citizen.

Use credit cards.

Drink fluoride.

Ignore chemtrails.

Vaccinate your children.

>>84320597
Why isn't this shingles shit ever talked about? A vaccine isn't effective in the long run and shingles are way way worse. Fucking retards digging their own graves.

>>84320613
>If millions of people die from a preventable disease, it will be because of morons like this.

Real talk, why do we need people like this? Fucking end them already.

>>84320609
if you don't wear a seatbelt you deserved to be fuckin killed Ralph Nader death camps

>>84317630
Because it is literally a public health risk to not vaccinate your children. I don't want my kid to get sick because you are a retard.

>>84320725
these are unironically the steps to becoming a well adjusted individual

>>84320766
See? That's exactly what I'm talking about. They do this shit like push these false equivalences, knowing nothing about virology, immunology, or epidemiology, and think it's the same thing. They are a wall of non-reason that reason cannot penetrate.

>>84320613
>DUDE IF I WANNA FEED MY KID LITERAL HUMAN FECES AND INJECT AIDS INTO HIM THATS MY CHOICE AS A PARENT AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS AGAINST FREEDOM LMAO

>>84318655
>what are reckless endangerment and involuntary manslaughter

The problem is that conservatives are amoral. They think people should be greedy assholes who do whatever they want without regard for others. They have no principles, no values besides hate.

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>>84320502
As a licensed medical professional, get your kids vaccinated.

>>84320752
Chicken Pox and Shingles are caused by the same virus.

You get the Shingles shot in your 60s now.
Studies have shown that getting vaccinated decreases severity of outbreaks in people who have had chicken pox before.

t.http://www.immunize.org/askexperts/experts_zos.asp

I know there are other studies out there but I'm not about to do a fucking MeSH term search on PubMed for a fucking 4chan argument.

>>84317699
>Nazism is an opinion we can sit down casually and discuss the merits of

>>84317973
How about actively calling for the subjugation of non-whites? That's a good line to draw.

We didn't get rid of the nazis with talking the first time.

>>84320880
Getting full blown chicken pox should be mandatory for children.

>>84317630
Two reasons

1. The kid shouldn't have to suffer because of his retard parents.
2. The disease can further develop within the child and gain resistance to our vaccines. That means, the virus could start gaining resistance and infect people who have been vaccinated, or it could mix with other viruses and create an entirely new strain we're not prepared for. You not vaccinating puts us all in danger.

>>84320918
Enjoy your debilitating nerve pain in your 60s and 70s and having to shamble your contagious body into a CVS every 2 weeks for your Lyrica prescription.

>>84320725
>credit cards
Don't have one.
>fluoride
I like my teeth, thanks.
>muh chemtrails
Literally a bullshit crackpot belief.
>vaccines are bad
Tell that to polio, Alex.

>>84320867
You are equating conservatism with inbred american nutcases. Nothing about traditional values forces people into believing shit like
>>84320613
"Killing my kid is my right"
Or
>>84320725
"Deus Ex is a documentary and not a gams"

I hope every proponent of vaccines keeps getting vaccinated every 10-12 years since that's how long a vaccine lasts.

>>84316262
Republicans are psychos at this point. It's not good enough that you don't have health insurance, they want you to have polio too.

>>84318358
Because some people can't. But who gives a shit about transplant recipients, cancer survivors, and the elderly, right?

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>>84320365

Bill Gates has said multiple times that his vaccinations in Africa are for population control.

>>84320886
Yes, we can. If you must resort to violence to silence an idea then you have lost.
If we simply silenced the faggots in this thread, would we have any sort of moral high ground? Would we prove our points?
No.

>>84320963
True, I'm talking about American conservatism. American conservatives are completely amoral.

>>84320980
By drastically reducing childhood mortality, idiot. I bet you watched some out of context youtube clip and decided Bill Gates was practicing eugenics.

>>84320980
Let's pretend that was true.
Shouldn't you like that? Less welfare widows for your ancap utopia to throw out of helicopters.

>>84320964
I just got my Td booster thanks. And last titers I got showed I still have immunity 10+ years after getting vaccinations. But hey, I hope you dont give your wife cervical cancer and then have to look her in the eyes when she unknowingly develops cervical cancer rendering her infertile and unable to have a child and all because of you.

>>84320966
I am convinced that any Rust Belter or middle class voter who votes conservative has legit never looked up the party's voting record. It's the strangest thing to me why so many of them are okay with rich tax breaks, cuts to medical care or straight up losing their own insurances.

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>>84321012
>an utilitarianist calling others amoral

>>84321050

>le /pol/ boogeyman

You have to go back.

>>84320964
I love how your conservative dumbass says this shit like it's a threat or malediction. I do get vaccinated every 10-12 years. What's the fucking problem? It takes seconds and the new high tech needles are damn near painless.

>>84321004
I'm not advocating violence, but you act like we can find common ground with literal Nazis...that has to be bait, they promote actual genocide.

You don't indulge these people, you ignore them.

>>84321045

Reducing childhood mortality has never, ever been shown to reduce birth rates in Africa.

>>84320964
oh shit I just remembered I forgot to get my smallpox vaccination hahaha

>>84321073
I'm right.

>>84321076
>/pol/
Who said anything about /pol/, have you not read the thread?
I swear, you drop in and don't even bother to check the other anons' points. Sad.

>>84321076
>still pretending /pol/ is a boogeyman
Why?

>>84321133

Why would I need to check other anons' points? I am making my own points and you are responding to them poorly.

Giving hicks access to the internet was a mistake.

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>>84321109
Wrong as usual, conservashit.

>>84321054
I live in Norway, most people here were vaccinated in elementary school and everyone I talk to have no idea that you need to keep getting vaccines every 10-12 years. Yet they are opposed to anti-vaccers. Strange thing, many believe a vaccination is some once and all time solution.

>>84320215
It was the kind of retard he sounded like.

>>84321128
you always are sweetie

>>84321185
It's still better to get vaccines then to outright never get them.

>>84321107
I can't find commom ground with tankies either, but I debate them. If I don't, I allow their points to remain unchecked and their spread of ideas to go unmatched. If I silence them, I make them martyrs and legitimize them while turning me into an authoritarian. If I ignore their points, I'll allow my own to become weak and prone to faillings.

Debate is the only way not only to stop bad ideas, but to improve your own.

>>84321185
Because regardless of what they know, anti-vaxxers are still retarded.

>>84321193
I know. American conservatives are amoral. It's inarguable.

>>84321181

Want to show it for African countries?

>>84321185
It is concerning but it is a different issue all together.

>>84321214
We didn't stop the nazis by debating them. If we'd punched them a little earlier we could've avoided a lot of problems.

>>84321185
Certain ones you get vaccinated multiple times for, especially under specific circumstances. Others are a one-time thing.

>>84321157
No, I am responding according to the shitposts I've got as replies.

>>84321225
You made the assertion, conservashit, you prove it.

>>84321251

The Nazis were in response to regular people being punched by communists for being Nazis.

>>84316780
Deflection not an argument whataboutism slippery slope strawman ad homo-man argument reductio ad absurdumb

>>84321296
Hahaha, nice try with the revisionist history, /pol/

>>84321281

>have information in front of you
>lie about what it means
>can press some buttons to get the correct information
>refuse to share it to prove your point

Check and mate. Good try though.

>>84321212
But most people here are, by omission, not vaccinated today. Yet they think anti-vaccers are stupid idiots.

>>84321252
Which, I've done research on all I got, and they are all expired by now.

>>84321332
Which ones have you gotten once?

>>84321214
What in the fuck is a tankie?

Also, I don't agree with your last point, to an extent. Should we debate everything? Sure, absolutely. The problem I have is that some people think debating those ideas legitamizes them as serious ideas or beliefs. Makes people start to doubt actual facts. Nobody felt the need to debate the earth being round before the advent of the internet, now we have celebrities and prominent people online arguing doubt for the fucking shape of the earth. I don't debate gravity either. What you are asking for isn't really a debate, because how can you argue something you know to be true? That only serves to make conspiracy theories, without evidence, seem sane.

That isn't intellectual.

>>84321312

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319

>>84321296
Are you completely retarded?

>>84318887
Go back to GBS goon