/who/ - Doctor Who General

Reminder that The Doctor Falls will be disappointing and you shouldn't be hyped for it.

Reminder Moffat is a pandering hack.

Asylum of the Daleks could've been fucking great

Instead we get 3 minutes of daleks and a brown storage facility.

I wanted to see insane Daleks, multiple levels of the asylum (each themed), and a simple action plot where the doctor has to do x and get out, but he has to go through all that shit first.

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Might as well post the clocks, just because I took the time to make the screenshots.

Here is the first time it was shown. When Bill first woke up after her partial conversion.

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>>84308810
and here it is after she had more than settled in and had been given a job as a janitor.

>>84308772
Anon, AotD was a seteup to introduce CLALA, nothing more

>>84308842

Shame the marketing for the episode hyped it up as being "EVERY DALEK EVER!" and "OMG ITS THE SPECIAL WEAPONS DALEK!"

>bill is gay
>she came out of the closet at some point
>bill converts to a cyberman
>she comes out of the closet to surprise the Doctor and Nardole

It's like pottery.

>>84308841
>>84308810
>it'd had been 1000 years in the bottom end of the ship
jesus

If only 20 people went down and it'd been a thousand years, wouldn't that mean that at some point inbreeding would have started?

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>>84308841
and here's the other side of the first shot of the clock.
Just in case someone wants it.

>>84308924

Why do you think everyone was so sick?

>>84308810
Why is it first 10:45:17 and later 10:45:00?
Both of them are in day 2

>>84308974
Because someone screwed up the big reveal on just how much time has passed.

>>84308958
>>84308841
So it was only one year she was there?

Doctor Poo

>>84309075
Billie Piper is so fucking hot at certain angles and such a weird monkey at others.

>>84309119
Should have put Nardy in there desu.

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Does it bother anyone else that their mouths don't open when they talk?

>>84309223
They open a little sometimes

>>84309223
Huh? They stretch a bit if I remember correctly.

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>>84309246
I want fully open mouths like in the original though.

>>84308668
Mackie is doing her best with an awful script so she's good in my books.
Moff hasn't been great since S5 and a few episodes and specials. It's all Moffat's fault people hate her.

Anyone notice how the presence of the clocks made no sense? I mean, time only moved differently because of the black hole, so why would they put clocks to show different times?

>>84308841
>>84308908
Can you imagine being Simm and having to watch the Doctor twitch his eyebrow for an entire week?

>>84309311
They only installed the clocks after the blackhole fiasco so they can know how their time is different.

>>84309223
Yeah, I called it like a month ago. It moves a little, but no where near as much as we'd like

>>84308668
Has there ever been a more aesthetically unpleasing black women on television before... its like they said "quick, find us the ugliest black chick in the UK for this role"

>>84309362
Why do people have to be so racist? Also she got on the show because she's a good actress.

I stooped watching it because of the niggres lesbian.
im sory but i cant handle it, the fact that she is ugly as fuck does not help.
if she was a qu lesbian fine or a qt balck gir, but this abomination is too much, and the history bs is the creem of the corp.

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>>84309362
Have you seen All 4's Chewing Gum?

>>84309362
Courtney Woods

>>84309362
I am sure the surgeons had to cut off a great deal of her nose inorder to get the cloth mask to fit her.

>>84309396
Pretty sure Moffat did say he wanted to do a very specific story with this companion
Obviously he wanted a minority

>>84308718
Reminder that The Doctor Falls will be disappointing but we should still be hyped for it because we're getting more Simm.

>>84308810
>>84308841
Wait, what? But Razor tells her she was unconscious for weeks or months, and then in a later scene she says 'How many more years?' must they wait for the Doctor.

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Just from the poster alone, you can tell it'll be Hell Bent 2

>>84309477
Has S10 really been that terrible that we need Simm to save us?

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>>84309396
>Implying people are racist for pointing out a that person is ascetically unpleasing.

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>>84309510
Yes

Only started watching with this season.
did they imply that missy is the same person as that guy who took his mask off?

>>84309510
Simm would be welcome even in a 10/10 season, what are you saying

>>84309477
>Razor tells her she was unconscious for weeks or months
Nothing in this says she couldn't have been unconscious for that long

>How many more years?
It had already been a little over 1 year. It little awkward in it's phrasing but still correct enough.

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>>84309545
Not imply. She is. 'That guy' is the Master from S3-S4 and Missy is the Master from S8-now. They're a Time Lord, like the Doctor. He's a previous incarnation.

This must be a weird season to start on.

>>84309545
You know how there have been 13 different actors who have portrayed the Doctor? Well they have an in-universe explanation for that. Every time a time lord is mortally injured, they can cheat death by "regenerating". The downside though, is their face and personality change. And rarely, especially when you're written by Moffat, your gender can change too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVEY5AL5zzk

>>84309531
Thanks for reminding me of how disappointing MGSV was.

>>84309590
Oh I looked at the image wrong.

Just one year makes more sense. I thought if Bill had to do that for multiple years she'd be way more worn out/depressed.

Who installed the clocks?

>>84309667
Me

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>>84309545

>>84309601
>>84309604
Wow you guys are helpful! It is weird and maybe I should've started on his first season or something. The episodes aren't that great if I'm to be honest but looking around it seems like this season is actually a step down from the previous.

That's really interesting, didn't realize you can time travel and see your other self. Can the Doctor also do that? How many Time Lords are there even?

Asking all these questions made me realize that I know absolutely nothing.

Good ep

>>84309667
Probably the blue guy.

>>84308892
Jesus Moffat.

>>84308668
She looks like Klinger.

>>84309362
An ugly girl to match the ugliest Doctor and the ugly Nardole.

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>>84309743
Yeah, despite them claiming that S10 was going to be a good jumping on point, it really wasn't. You should've started with S1, S5, or S8. Next year will be a great year for beginners though, since the showrunner is changing. It'll be like a brand new show.

>Can the Doctor also do that?
Yeah, it's happened a few times in anniversary specials. This is the first time there's been a multi-Master episode on-screen though.

>How many Time Lords are there even?
The Doctor and the Master are essentially it in the new series. I could list a bunch of others but you'll never see them in a new episode so it would be pointlessly confusing.

>>84309743
If you're new to Doctor Who. The episode THE WEB PLANET, will tell you just about everything you need to know!

>>84309801
>ugliest Doctor
That's not Matt Smith.

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>>84309801
Shut up, Capaldi is my DADDY

>>84309743
Yes you can but it's generally a bad idea: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Blinovitch_Limitation_Effect

>How many Time Lords are there even?
There are at least a hundred but the only ones in the new series are the Doctor and the Master if you count a Time Lord as an academy rank on Gallifrey.

In order of the Time Lords most likely to appear in the new series, it would be Romana, the Meddling Monk and the Rani (kek).

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>What are your unpopular Doctor Who opinions?
>I think Clara is ba-

>>84309949
I don't like Blink and Girl in the Fireplace. Never connected with them as a child, still can't now. Also The Doctors Wife is dogshit

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>>84309905
>There are at least a hundred
What a bizarre number to come up with.

Also people react to new viewers asking questions in such a weird and slightly embarrassing way. Linking the TARDIS wiki page on the blinovitch limitation effect? Really? I've wasted many hours reading eye stories and listening to ear stories, and I still would have absolutely no interest in reading about the blinovitch limitation effect. What enjoyment could a new fan possibly get out of it?

>>84309949
Amy and Rory were great.

>>84309949
I don't like the show saying the full name of the companion over and over again

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I did the math for shits and giggles. The length of the ship and the difference in time rates requires that the front of the ship be something like 500 feet from the event horizon of the black hole.

Clara Who? Spin off when?

do we know who the new dr is yet

dont they usually announce it?

or will it end with him regen and we wont actually see till christmas

>>84310068
Too busy working on second season of Victoria.

>>84310080
It's basically confirmed that Kris Marshall is taking over. Have you been living under a rock?

>>84310101
>STILL thinking 13 will be male

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>>84310101
You're going to be disappointed when you see Tom Rosenthals face

>>84310101
You mean Tom Rosenthal

>>84309545
Yes, xe had a sex change

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We needed at least one more year of Capaldi!

>>84309756
How did he know how fast the ship was going at the other end?
He didn't even know it was going slower until the doctor explained
And wasn't there a clock on the fast bottom end of the ship?

>>84309756

The blue guy never went down
Everyone who went down never got back up

What's stopping people from going back to floor 0

>>84310273
Simm more than likely
Simm as well to
>>84310230
>>84310256

>History is a whitewash
>literally every previous episode where the Doctor goes back to the past is now a lie

Of course it's written by a fucking woman.

>>84310313
Krillitane yourself, boardie scum.

Why was there a blue guy on a Mondas ship?

>>84310273
RAZOR: We have to be strong!
BILL: There are lifts
RAZOR: There are many dangers
[...]
RAZOR: You do not understand the dangers

Then he says something about the persons who went up to room 507 and that they never came back

>>84310360
So he can call the Doctor a racist for flipping him in the next episode.

>>84309196
where are the nardol lewds

>>84310339
Stop using that word

>>84310402
No.

>>84310360
He was the janitor
Maybe on Mondas the slaves were blue instead of black

>>84310383
That was obviously a bluff. His thte only person who determines who goes up and down the lift. The "Exodus" is just an excuse to start the cybermen.

>>84310360
Mondasian diversity quotas

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Good morning RTDchads!

>>84310397
I've got one but the last time I posted it I got banned

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Razor is the funniest character Moffat has ever written. Prove me wrong. You can't.

>>84310438
Stop this stupid meme
It only causes shitposting and showrunner wars

>>84310444
that's why you link it then delete after 5 minutes

>>84310447
>Nardol is the funniest character Moffat has ever written
fix'd

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>>84310478

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>>84310460
Fuck off Moffag!!

I'm surprised that Moffat bothered explaining the "Wouldn't Bill recognize 'Harold Saxon' if they met" issue instead of just saying "timey-wimey" and moving on.

>>84310430
Well in the trailer you can see the cybermen making holes in the top of the level so I don't think they can just use the lift

>>84310438
>RTDfag
>Not JNTchad master race.

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>>84310438
Tipple pipple fellow RTDbro.

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ANTI-PLASTIC

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>>84310723
>mfw I see anti-plastic

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>>84310723
MONDASIAN ANTI-PLASTIC!

So Mondasians and Humans are equivalent? Master was somehow on board and secured exclusive control of the lifts? What purpose would there be for sending some of the descendants up to higher floors (and the danger was obviously bullshit, theyre just time dilated up there)? Isn't twenty people insufficient genetic diversity for several generations, or are we to gather that progress on exodus began rapidly enough for all fifty crew to be brought down and bred before being converted? Did the master recognize his future self solely by personality?

>>84310383
If some people do go back up the lift, they'd get to a floor that hadn't degraded as much, and I'd expect out of selfishness just decide to stay there. We're talking about people who were born on the ship, and aren't too savvy on the relativity.

Or, if the lift is engaged for a few seconds near the first few floors, that's quite a while in the bottom, could explain why the original crew sent down never came back up.

So how were the ratings for the last episode? Still shit?

>>84311057
>just time dilated
Actually, not significantly. Floor 507 for example would only be something like 0.7 times slower.

>>84311156
Slightly up, but still shit. In fact, ratings for all TV shows were shit on Saturday.

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Will he die ?

>>84309502
>the Doctor falls
>Cybermen fly
Bravo, Moffat.

I'm not ready to wait 6 months for the Christmas special

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so why did asteroid asplo?

>>84309502
>brings back MONDASIAN Cybermen
>makes them just the same as new Cybermen
What did Moffat mean by this?

AI of 85.
Best since Dark Water.

>>84311360
oh shit really? That's actually kind of surprising given how dark it was to see bill get fucked up like that
Could it just be because simm?

>>84311278
Because that's what happens when an asteroid crashes into a two-dimensional black hole. The normal axis is effectively solid.

>>84308810
>>84308841
>10:45:17
>10:45:00

So, either somebody fucked up big time, or...time goes in reverse on the two sides of the ship (which is possible if the top part is beyond event horizon and already inside the black hole)

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>>84311253
>The knack [in flying] lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss
We /Douglas Adams/ again?

>>84309632
2 days on control deck = 1000 yrs on floor 1056

2 days = 2880 minutes

so 10 minutes on control deck = 1000/288 yrs = 3.47 yrs

So...Bill spent about 3 and a half years waiting for the Doctor.

>>84311430
>The Doctor wasted all that time because he had to explain to the audience what time dilation was.

>>84311360
All the John Simm episodes have good AIs. Normies love his Master.

If Mini Matt Smith truly does know who the 13th Doctor is, he's terrible at keeping a secret.

Tom Rosenthal had to delete a tweet in which Mini Matt had replied. Then re-tweeted it in the hope that nobody had noticed.

>>84311517

Source? I quite liked Tom in Friday Night Dinner. I would deffo prefer him over Kris Marshall.

>>84311517
I have no idea why anyone from the BBC would think telling an autistic kid with fucked up parents a secret would be a good idea

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>>84311517
>>84311537

Nah it can't be him. If it was there's now way he could post this lol

>>84311568
what if it's a double bluff?

Okay, so is it now canon that the doctor real name is Doctor Who? That would be pretty silly, right?

>>84311568
This is a re-tweet of the original to which Mini Matt had replied.

The original one, Rosenthal typed Dr Who, not Doctor Who.

I guess we'll find out the truth about Mini Matt's supposed prior knowledge eventually anyway.

>>84311603
it's just a nickname he's fond of

>>84311603

Nah, the Doctor even mentions 'she's winding you up' or something when Bill asks if that's really his name.

Oh man, I thought for sure they wouldn't talk all funny like they did originally but they've managed to do cloth faces and silly (though eerie) voices and all. God I love the Cybermen.

>>84311608
had mini matt replied anything of value that implies knowledge?

>>84311603
I like to think he used to call himself that pre Unearthly Child

>>84311608

Who the fuck is Mini Matt?

>>84311632
And then he say's "I just like it".

>>84311636
yeah, he said "DELETE THIS, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TELL ANYONE"

>>84311652
that could easily be interpreted as an autistic child's reaction to hearing something he automatically believes to be true

>>84311650

No he say's 'I like it' right? I don't remember him suggesting it's a name he's come to like over the years more he likes it right then and there.

>>84311636
It was something like "all of time and space awaits you", or words to that effect. Can't remember it exactly.

>>84311639
He also mentioned "Was a girl? I'm fairly sure I was a man at this point".

So, do teens like regenerate a couple of times and he was a girl at some point? Clearly they are setting up for the Doctor to regenerate into a woman, right?

>>84311652

But who is the batman?

But seriously, who is Mini Matt and why does it matter what he says?

Remember when 11 had that fetish about going "say that again" whenever anyone said 'doctor who'? And moff's fetish in general with putting 'doctor who' into the script wherever possible during matt's later run?

At this point it's perfectly in-character for the doctor to say he likes the name 'doctor who'

>>84311684
All I know is he's a kid that cosplays as 11.
I don't know why his opinion matters.

What if Nardol is Bill from the future?
He will give himself parts of his body to save his live.
Nardol's head is never existed looped time paradox.

>>84311649
A 13 yr old super fan on the autistic spectrum. He somehow manages to get interviews with the cast, visits to the filming sets, invites to special screenings etc.

He seems like a nice kid, I've got nothing against him.

>>84311693
Looking forward to episodes where he introduces himself as Doctor Who instead of The Doctor.

>>84311673
I wouldn't mind it. I mean, I don't mind the concept. I mind where they'll inevitably go with it.

>>84311673
He says
"I'm fairly sure I was a man too"

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>>84311664
He might have been serious. It's not his "real" name, but it was probably his first nickname. It's not his actual name given at birth that only River knows.

>>84311732
Yes, but since all of his known regenerations were male, why would he be confused about the first doctor gender?

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>>84310447
He's no Zathras, that's for sure

>>84311735
River is also the worst thing of modern who.

>>84311744
He wasn't
He says he's sure

>>84311756
post-blink weeping angel episodes are worse

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>>84311756
Bro, watch your mouth or i'll tell her the doctor step mom.

>>84311744
The point is more that time lords don't think about it too much
Do you know how some people can't remember their age, or have to sit and count from their year of birth because it's not something they consider important enough to keep in memory? It's like that

>>84311673
>>84311732
>>84311744
>>84311759
I more imagine it that since he's lived 2000 years and had many adventures he starts to be shaky on some details

>>84311787
Sure, but even if for them, gender is not a big deal, I would still remember getting a weird haircut when I was a kid.

>>84311784
>Do you know how some people can't remember their age
No, is this a thing? I've never heard of someone forgetting their age, I mean how you forget that?

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>>84311784
I guess, but it still seem like a big deal.
>>84311813
I sometime have to remember I'm 28 and not 24. Age does not really matter after 18 in Canada.

>>84311813
Why would you bother remembering your age once you're past the years of age restrictions applying to you, and people rarely ever ask about it? For the same reason birthdays stop being considered important, the actual number of your age stops being important too

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>>84311759
He said, fairly sure.

>>84308842

Then that's shit and a total waste of time and concept. They should've called it Asylum of the Clala and released it as a ten minute webisode. God, fuck that character and everything she ruined.

>>84311835
>but it still seem like a big deal
for your petty human brain

>>84311858
I remember when I liked Beyblades or when I sat in my basement playing lego. I would remember have breasts and being a woman, even more than you need to die to become one.

>>84311878
Would you remember what you looked like 2100 years ago?

>>84311430
>>84311462
And he didn't even do a very good job at it. It was already explained at that point too.

Not only would Bill be fine but there's also the chance he could've stopped the cybermen from being created if he'd just ran to the elevator as soon as he realised about the time dilation.

>>84311900
With a Time Lord brain probably

>>84311900
They have a brain made for that.

>>84310426
If the Mondasians were capable of building colony ships and they could've left their planet at any time why did they need to cibber themselves? Or is Moffat implying that the only Mondasian cybermen came from this ship, and none were made on Mondas?

What the fuck is Faction Paradox

>>84311517
>>84311568
I don't get it, why would delete a tweet just because of something some kid replied to it?

>>84311711
He's being manipulated into a media role by his cunt father who runs all his social media and argues with people on twitter under his name. It's pretty sad.

>>84311967
Seem like it. The ship is the origin of the cybermans. Made by the Master all to torment the Doctor.

They then go back home, and upgrade everybody else.

>>84311970
Faction Paradox, once known as House Paradox, were a time-active faction devoted to the promulgation of temporal paradoxes and opposed to the Time Lords and their philosophy of rationality and stability. Founded by Grandfather Paradox, their base was located in the Eleven-Day Empire. They played a neutral role in the War between the Time Lords and the Enemy.

>>84311970
The /tg/ version of Doctor Who. Made by an autist, and is currently trodding along in these independent books that only a dozen or so people buy.

>>84310132
Female Doctor Hype

>>84311967
>Or is Moffat implying that the only Mondasian cybermen came from this ship, and none were made on Mondas?

I think none of the cybermen on the ship are going to survive since we know they'll get upgraded all the way to the modern ones, if the cybermen there escape we would never have seen their previous designs. I think maybe one of the originals might just get back to mondas and be reproduced by the mondasians

>>84311967
Well, it would be pretty weird if the ship and Mondas both came up with the exact same idea and design for cybermen independently from each other. So I guess the ship goes back?

Honestly, I try not to think about how it fucks the canon.

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>>84310062

Don't really know much about cybermen lore
What is their origin according only to TV stories?

>>84312096
Bunch of aliens from Earth's twin planet got cold and decided to make metal bodies for themselves.

>>84312090
Maybe they had a design that they made back in Mondas and they brought a copy with them

Anyone else find it inappropriately funny when they cut from Bill with a gaping hole in her chest to the Doctor casually joking that he wouldn't get her killed? It was such a dramatic moment and it caught me completely off guard

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>>84312096
I started writing an explanation but there's no way I can top >>84312115.

Is bitch a swear word in the UK?
Is it okay to say it in a kids show?

>>84310360
Wasn't it heading towards Mondas? I suspect Mondasians rented/comissioned ship from someone else, and went to tow it to Mondas to pick people up.

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>>84312166
BITCH

>>84312009
So convoluted for the sake of being convoluted

>>84312189
No, Missy said it is FROM Mondas

>>84312166
Oh so I didn't mishear that scene?

What's with Moffat and making Missy use the word bitch in such weird ways

>>84312166
BITCHY TRAMPOLINE

>>84312262
But why was it almost empty then? Shouldn't it have been full of colonists?

>>84312514
Maybe they were testing it and making repairs or something

>>84311057
>So Mondasians and Humans are equivalent?
Mondas is a literal twin of Earth that drifted out of the solar system.

>>84312514
Blue guy said they were going to pick them up but Missy says it came from mondas so who knows

>>84310062

Thorne had the same problem when Nolan told him that the plot of Interstellar demanded 1 hour = 7 years on Earth.

He solved it by giving the black hole angular momentum - you can get basicaly arbitrarily large time dilations with stable orbits this way, but the maths is much more difficult.

>>84312764
Shouldnt the combination of gravitational and orbital time dilation be sufficient?

>>84311360

AI is one of the most mysterious indexes out there.

'Genesis of the Daleks' is often considered one of the best classic who story, while 'The Twin Dilemma' is one of the worst.

They both got almost identical AI.

Midnight, one of RTD's best had worse AI than The Doctor's Daughter.

Is AI selected randomly?

>>84312831

the problem is that you cannot orbit arbitrarily close to a black hole, in the regions of spacetime close enough to the event horizon to give you these insane time dilation factors, there are no stable oribts, even for objects traveling at light speed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innermost_stable_circular_orbit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_sphere

rotating black holes are different, all sorts of weird shit like frame dragging kicks in and all bets are off.

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Remember when Ashidlr accidentally got Clara killed and the Doctor lost his shit and got visibly very angry? I can't even remember what his face looked like when somebody blew Bill's heart out of her chest with a gun right in front of him.

Actually, he was fairly friendly to the person after that. Spent awhile just casually trying to explain to him some physics.

>>84313130
He's got some anger management going on.

>>84313130
Top cake, mate. Top cake.

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post yfw you realise that the doctor falls is a prequel to the tenth planet

>>84313292
What? I'm not trying to make a joke. It's something that just occurred to me. I liked the episode, but it seems a bit odd in hindsight

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That surgeon guy looks a bit like Reviewbrah

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>>84313324
Wait until you realise that Capaldi's regen scene at the start of the episode is also at the South Pole. So while the first Doctor is stumbling into the TARDIS to regenerate, 12 is stumbling out of his to regenerate.

Pure poetry.

>>84312166
'Damn' is also not a swear word

>>84313130
remember when the doctor kept saying he had a duty of care with clara, but casually joked about how bill was too easy to kill so he halfheartedly promised he'd try not to get her killed within reason?

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I havent seen anything since Hell Bent. Should i bother with s10?

>>84313476
No, go away frogposting boardie

>>84313486
Stop using that word

>>84313476
Watch
>The Pilot (to introduce bill)
>Oxygen (It's a good mathieson episode)
>Extremis (it's the first of a three parter but it's a good enough standalone and the other 2 are shit so skip it)
>Empress of Mars (it's fun and has an important plot thing)
>World Enough and Time (it's very good)

The rest are all unimportant and - not only can, but SHOULD - be skipped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJbuq4FuLw

>>84313585
Seems like you just hate Bill, boardie.

>>84313626
Name a good bill episode that I didn't list

>>84313440
I prefer this series' characterization honestly.

>>84313626
Stop using that word

Why do people like Eaters of Light
It was one of least engaging episodes of modern era
Nothing happens + shit dialogues + stupid qresolution + stupid cgi dogs

Doctor Poo and the Eaters of Shite

>>84313669
>It was one of least engaging episodes of modern era
Which coincidentally also meant it was one of the most classic who-like episodes

>>84313585
>being a dirty skipper but still recommending Oxygen
It's a decent episode but it's pretty dull. If you're going to skip most of the season, why bother watching that one?

>>84313649
Thin Ice is better than Oxygen at least. Eaters of Light and Smile aren't as good but they're still alright. Having bad episodes isn't any fault of Bill's though.

>>84313649
>Smile
>Thin Ice
>Knock Knock
>The Lie of the Land

>>84313476
If you like trainwrecks, sure.

>>84313649
https://twitter.com/OldRoberts953/status/878692329703575553

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BBC confirmed for bros?

>>84313700
>ending kills it
>only has a minute of characterkino going for it
>boring
>too shit to even dignify with a response

>>84313700
Those are all shit

>>84313696
>Having bad episodes isn't any fault of Bill's though
Agree so much but Eaters of Light to me is just bad, like one of the worst for modern Who bad.

>>84313700
Thin Ice is the only one of those that doesn't become a complete mess at some point.

>>84313720
>tfw keep forgetting to open garreth tweets in an incognito window because he blocked me for asking why moff erased him from doctor who

>>84313694
>implying television standards hadnt changed

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>>84313696
>Thin Ice is better than Oxygen

I havent watched much classic who. Were companions frequently killed or just retired? New who has had four of six companions (and two of three boyfriends) killed or trapped.

It also seems like they unnaturally force horror into everything instead of just peril, to the point of things that have no reason to behaving with malice.

>>84313731
you're going to have to back that up with something more than 'it's boring'
there are enough offensively bad episodes that boring isn't enough to consider it one of the worst

>>84313724
>>84313726
>>84313741
Jesus Christ
You guys just have impossibly high standards.

>>84313776
I was quite happy with S9 actually
S10 has been a huge disappointment besides a couple standouts

>>84313768
A lot of companions had nice endings, the only significant deaths at the time were Katerina, Sara Kingdom [both in the same story] and most famously Adric. Peri would have counted if not for the ending of the Trial series. Ace was killed off in the comic strip

>>84313776
Not really
I've liked many "bad" episodes but these are just fucking boring

>>84313768
Moff has Amy, Rory, Clara, Nardol and Bill. Damn that's a lot.

>>84308924
Maybe that's partially the reason they decided to convert themselves into machine. With all the inbreeding it wasn't a good idea for them to continue on unless they became more than human.

OFFICIAL SERIES 10 POWER RANKINGS

>GOAT
World Enough and Time

>GREAT
Extremis
Oxygen
The Pilot
Empress of Mars

>GOOD
Eaters of Light
Thin Ice
The Doctor Falls

>OKAY
Knock Knock
Smile
Lie of the Land

>SHITE
Pyramid at the End of the World

>>84313860
Are you basing The Doctor Falls as good on the trailer or something?

>>84313791

How bad is S10? I wasn't impressed at all with Pilot, thought it was pretty fucking shit actually. Bill's character was summed up as "gay and horny" and was as shallow as a puddle and the monster felt like the worst kind of Star Trek technobabble. It was just "it can do X, Y and Z" just because we need it to with forced drama added in. It was like the Mummy on the Orient Express except without the tension and the emotional weight.

I'm d/ling episode 2 now out of loyalty to Capaldi but I really don't feel like watching terrible scripts.

>>84313860
Anything else is O B J E C T I V E L Y incorrect

>>84313768
Most left on their own, I believe. Though I didn't count.

>>84313860
>World Enough and Time
>only reason it's so high is because Bill doesn't need to interact with much plus Missy and Simm are in

>>84313860
>GOOD
>Eaters of Light
No, it's OKAY.

>>84313860
>Failed communist parable
>Great

>Leftist violent fantasies
>Good

>Lie over Pyramid

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What did he mean by this?

>>84313884
Well the positive is that Capaldi is doing his best with what was given.

>>84313895
>>only reason it's so high is because Bill doesn't need to interact with much

>Bill has the majority of the screen time
What did he mean by this?

>>84313918
Please leave /pol/

>>84313860
>GOAT
World Enough and Time

>GREAT
Oxygen
The Pilot
Empress of Mars

>GOOD
Thin Ice
Extremis
Knock Knock
Smile

>OKAY
Eaters of Light
Pyramid at the End of the World

>SHITE
Lie of the Land

>>84313946
Wait a minute...
Does that mean that Bill was actually good this time?

>>84313971
Nah it was all thanks to Razor

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>>84313967
better

>>84313884
I wouldn't call it truly "bad" besides the monk trilogy post-extremis, it's just been a huge letdown
Especially after seeing capaldi in all of the character driven stuff in S9, S10 feels like they've gone too far in the other direction - it's not RTD era running down corridors, but there's significantly fewer character driven moments and that's what I liked the most about how the show changed with capaldi

The main difference with S10 is the arc has been done in a way that virtually every episode ends with a direct lead-in to the next one. There's also fairly constant mentions of "the vault" and "your oath, sir" to the point that it gets a little grating at times

There are still good episodes, but there's a lot of meh ones. The ones listed in >>84313585 are the only ones I'd recommend if you don't have the patience for meh. If you're really lacking in patience, even just World Enough and Time could do. It's the culmination of what the arc involving missy has lead up to, but they do enough explaining of it that you can probably catch on without feeling like you missed much. Regarding missy's arc, Extremis is the episode that first reveals it and then Empress of Mars has a couple small scenes that set up World Enough, but if you're desparate you could go without those

what snarky SJW bullshit can they shoehorn into the finale to make us roll our eyes at?

>tfw the new doctor is Tom Rosenthal

>GOAT
World Enough and Time

>GREAT
Extremis

>GOOD
Oxygen
The Pilot

>OKAY
Empress of Mars
(power gap)
Pyramid at the End of the World
(power gap)
Lie of the Land
>SHITE
Thin Ice
Knock Knock
Smile

>*SPOILERS* Tom Rosenthal is introduced to the world as the next Doctor! - Doctor Who - BBC One

>>84311377
>That's actually kind of surprising given how dark it was to see bill get fucked up like that
The whole moment was ruined when they zoomed in to reveal her human face beneath the face piece. Her reaching out with "I waited for you" was a very powerful moment immediately ruined with the zoom in of the tear. The people who make this show have no idea what subtlety is and apparently none of you manchild fans do either if you think that moment was "dark". It was fucking laughable.

>>84313585
Sooo should i watch only these? Are the rest that shit?

>>84314047
I was hoping for Kris but what ever. Is that guy good?

just a reminder that the monk trilogy was hyped up immensely before it aired and now I struggle to even remember it exists

>>84314117
>falling for the Wosenthal meme.

>>84314091
Watch everything you HUGE PUSSY

>>84314072
Glad I'm not the only to think that.
When Cyber-Bill reached out I felt a little but then they zoomed into her crying. Like why, just why. You're basically making the same message but in a less powerful way like you said.

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>>84314117
he's bwilliant

>>84314123
Make blind Doctor one episode only and it would've been GOAT.

>GOAT
World Enough and Time
Extremis
Oxygen
The Pilot

>GOOD
Empress of Mars
Thin Ice
Pyramid at the End of the World
Smile

>OKAY
Knock Knock

>SHITE
Lie of the Land

>>84314072
I was talking more about seeing bill with a huge fucking hole through her, that's not the kind of thing you usually show the kiddies
granted it was all black and glowing orange like it was just burnt rather than blood and guts but you still don't get away with showing that too often

>>84314194
You have a very broad definition of GOAT

World Enough and Time was great and Extremis was good (But let down by its irrelevance) and Eaters of Light was competent.

The rest was very lazy with Pyramid approaching servicable.

>>84314238
But Oxygen was GOAT?

>>84314238
>Pyramid approaching servicable
as in higher than the others?
What the fuck are you on?

>>84314247
It really wasn't. It suffered from the same lack of characterization and was lazy in exploration of themes. I like how Doctor resolved the issue, but it doesn't change that it tried too hard to say something about capitalism and failed.

>>84314272
It had interesting concept and plot development, although it was seriously let down by the next part.

IT'S OUT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbfpYQ-L8bw

Here's how next episode is gonna go down. Simm basically doesn't want to regenerate, so he's going to find out from Missy what kills him and makes him regenerate, so he can stop it from ever happening when the time comes. Towards the end Missy will get the upper hand and wipe his memory of this episode's events so he wont remember what kills him.

Moffat you're a predictable hack.

>Good episodes during RTD's Run
Dalek
Empty Child/Doctor Dances
Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways
Girl in the Fireplace
Impossible Planet/Satan Pit
Human Nature/Family of Blood
Blink
Utopia/Sounds of Drums
Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead
Time Crash
Midnight
Turn Left
The Stolen Earth
Waters of Mars

>Good Episodes during Moffat's run
The Eleventh Hour
Amy's Choice
Vincent and The Doctor
The Lodger
Pandorica Opens/Big Bang
A Christmas Carol
Doctor's Wife
Girl Who Waited
God Complex
The Snowmen
Bells of Saint John
Hide
Name of the Doctor
Day of the Doctor
Listen
Mummy on the Orient Express
Flatline
Dark Water/Death in Heaven
Last Christmas
Under the Lake/Before the Flood
The Woman Who Died
Face the Raven
Heaven Sent
The Pilot
Oxygen
Extremis
Empress of Mars
Eaters of Light
World Enough and Time

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>>84314397
All those episodes from S10 gave you away.

>>84314376
>missing the even more obvious answer

Simm will do something that puts the doctor in immediate mortal danger, and missy has to decide whether she will side with simm or the doctor. She choses the doctor, and in doing so somehow mortally wounds simm causing him to regenerate into her

>>84314433
>I can't think of a good arguement so I'm just gonna call your post bait!!

the absolute state of this general

>>84314460
But that's so predictably...

>>84314500
It's quite obviously what this is all leading to and frankly I want to see it regardless of the fact I'm predicting it

Why do people think Bells of Saint John is good?
It's trash

>>84314376
>>84314516
>>84314500
>so he can stop it from ever happening when the time comes
That's retarded even for the Master to do something like that

>Towards the end Missy will get the upper hand and wipe his memory of this episode's events so he wont remember what kills him.
Or maybe She's gonna turn good by killing her evil past.

>Moffat you're a predictable hack
Your entire post is wrong though. The only hack here is you

>>84314545
BAH BAH BAH BAH BAH BAH

Why do people think End of Time is good?
It's trash

>>84314545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxudsJsPbXQ

>>84314596
It's campkino and the music is quite good

1.Didn't humans evolve on Mondas at the sametime and rate as those on Earth? Wouldn't interstellar travel be beyond them?
2.Why was the out of sequence regeneration tease at the start or included at all?
3.Why was there an uneeded flashback establishing this was Missy's trial run when it had already been done by the character's dialogue and last episode's, "It's time we were friends again" twoddle?
4.Why is the Doctor/Master relationship retconned as a tumblr fanon concept?
5.Why doesn't Missy remember any of this?
6.Why does SimmMaster want a kiss from himelf?
7.Why does it feel like any villian race could have been used?

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>>84314545
Sure thing, kiddo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzWOlMif-Fw
How will she react to kris marshall?

>>84314625
Because fuck you that's why

>>84314625
>2.Why was the out of sequence regeneration tease at the start or included at all?
You know how movie trailers on youtube these days include a couple second micro-trailer of some action and the punchline joke just to get your attention just before the actual trailer starts, which is about to show those things anyway?

It's that

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POST JENNAS

>>84314625
>6.Why does SimmMaster want a kiss from himelf?
wouldn't you?

>>84314672
>>84314682
>>84314700
8.Why are you responding to bait?

>>84314625
>2.Why was the out of sequence regeneration tease at the start or included at all?

Because the show currently has the worst viewing figures ever and they want to get people to watch again

>>84314708
Why do you call asking questions a bait? Is the only non-bait post is "WOW GREAT EPISODE 10/10 CAN WE PRAISE IT"?

>>84308958
Just over a year from that point. We don't know the timespan from "Settling in and becoming a Janitor" to her full conversion to cyberman/end of episode.

>>84314708
because I want to get a (you) back

>>84314743
meant for
>>84309027

>>84314740
BEcause you're asking retarded questions that could've been answered if you watch the fucking show

How are those 5 teenagers meant to fight of an entire dimension of dragons with no food or supplies?

>>84314790
>Do you watch the show meme
Get off my planet.

>>84314722
>Because the show currently has the worst viewing figures ever
It can't be that bad.

>>84314698

>ywn play with the coleman hole, man

:^€

>>84314793
For a second I thought you were talking about Class, but then I realised it was The Eaters of Shite.

>>84314793
Because basic logic has never mattered in Dr Who, now shut up and don't think about how incredibly stale the "STOP FIGHTING, WORK TOGETHER" trope is at this point

>>84314892
Is Class even good?

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>>84314927
are you a homo?

>>84308668
>>84308668
>>84308668

Migrate.

>>84314927
it's very, very bad

>>84314940
>>84314940
>>84314940
>>84314940
>>84314940

I'm sorry, correct one
MIGRATE
MIGRATE

>>84314949
IoI

>>84308668
Why couldn't the stories take place in the future, or locations where it wouldn't matter?

Good thread guys