Valerian and the city of 1,000 flops

>>84283221
Didn't they learn anything from Jupiter Ascending

>>84283221
Besson did. All the action movies he's produced, like Taken, have lead to this movie. He did those films so he would be able to produce his dream project.

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fucking hated the trailer. it was offensive to my eyes and the song at the beginning reminded me of another song which just irritated me more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX6LPS_PcCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKdKbT0yUz8

clear laundering scheme

still going to see it lol

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>>84283258
No

>>84283221
Anything with Carl Delevingne is guaranteed to bomb. He's a box office killer

>Directed by Luc Besson
>Produced by Luc Besson
>Written by Luc Besson

I hope for him it won't flop

>>84283221
It's funded by a bunch of foreign studios. It's gonna bomb for the same reasons Jupiter Ascending did: two unappealing leads in a CGI shitstorm that makes zero narrative sense.

>>84283221
>0 hype
>costs a ton
That is what worries the most and unibrow as a lead actress.

>>84283221
Best movie of the year. im callin it

>>84283221
When will these moronic simpletons learn! And of course it isn't that they chose the wrong, property, or directed poorly or promoted it poorly or any of the above, it's because it's science fiction. So from here on it's science fiction's fault the movie failed.

1. Fuck unions and writes rights bullshit, if I'm sinking 220 million i'm having at the very least, fifty writers.


2. Fuck Studios, If i'm sinking that much money, I'm doing its CGI retarded cousin or animation or something and try to illicit some kind of retort from selected groups.

3. I'll have one director direct something for all of a few weeks, maybe a quick choppy edition of what I want and have a sit down with the brass to go through what works and what doesn't. And between the choppy shot film, and the animation CGI version, we'll harmer out what works and what doesn't. Do you people have any idea how many smaller budget films they could have shot for that amount of money? 220 million?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyline_(film)

10-20 million.

Profit, 49 million.

They did 79 million world wide and did well in home releases.

>220 million

Wow!

>>84283482
Im sure it will be since we need a good space opera.

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Never even heard of this, is it one of those teen book turned into a movie?

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>>84283499
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>>84283529
Its from a french comic book i believe.

>>84283221
THE THING IS THE LEADS ARE REALLY DULL

IF BESSON COULD GET A YOUNG EQUIVALENT OF BRUCE WILLIS OR MILLA JOVOVICH AGAIN THEN IT WOULD BE GREAT BUT BOTH LEAD ACTORS ARE EXTREMELY UNCHARISMATIC

>>84283499
Skyline was also awful

I saw a promo on TV where Cara is delivering the worst fucking roundhouse kick I've ever seen and I can't find it online

>>84283221
I actively stay away from anything so cgi filled. It's so boring

>a model and literally who as the leads
what could go wrong?

>>84283529
It's an old comic. Star Wars took a lot of inspiration from the design it has.

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>>84283596
This?

>>84283547
Beyond Skyline will be released any day now you will see that it's best to spell a little and try to accomplish a lot than to spend it all and produce nothing.

>>84283579
It did wel enough to warrant a sequel. And I liked it. Why didn't you? Nevermind, we're all entitled to our opinions in life.

>>84283689
what alien race is this?

>>84283614
This may be the next fifth element boy.

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>>84283221
Are they brother and sister?

>>84283783
The call them Synophrys.

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>>84283221
Cara looks like she borrowed her mum's spacesuit. If you knocked on those titholders there'd be an echo.

>>84283790
HIGHLY doubtful

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>>84283941
is she related to this guy?

Nobody is losing money. It's a money laundering / tax evasion scheme for the studio. Almost every studio does it.

>>84283221
Is it the girl that pushed her bf to suicide?

>>84283221
>who the fuck greenlit this

It sounds like a big money laundering scheme

the movie is a definite flop but i still wanna see it

>>84283978
>nobody is losing money
nobody but the goverment

>>84284075
>>84283978
>including a $50 million Chinese investment
lol

>>84283221

I enjoyed the fifth element. It looks like this will be enjoyable. Whether it flops or not won't really impact whether I enjoy it or not.

>>84284075
>nobody but the goverment

It takes in way too much money already.

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>>84283221
>that boobarmor

To be fair, nearly every summer movie this year has flopped

>>84283941
Cara used to be hotter.
What happened?

>>84284330
This doesn't look "only made 150% of its budget" bad though

This looks "$37 opening weekend" bad

dane is so cute im not dane btw

>how dare europeans not make the same corporate boardroom approved disney crap!!! Dont they know how to make money?

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Why did they cast a nu male and pig face as lead characters?

This is how original designs look like

>>84283258
Well I didn't see any dogboys with laser roller blades. So they learned a little.

>>84284454
>that lack of muscle on him.
They made the right choice

>>84283221
>>84283258
>>84283328
>>84283412
>>84283499
>>84283529
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>>84283614
I'm guessing none of you niggers have seen The Fifth Element. I'm telling you now this movie will be underrated as fuck and then become a cult classic. Screencap this shit.

>>84284548
That's funny because I don't see Bruce Willis in this movie.

They spent 220 milly on adapting an SF saga with a massive, detailed universe and a shit-ton of lore and instead of grabbing Iain M. Banks' Culture series they made THIS.

Darkest fucking timeline. Fuck my fucking parallel universe self watching the trailer for Consider Phlebas while President Sanders gets single-payer going.

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>>84284600
Equating Cara Delememe to Milla Jovovich is fucking insulting too

>>84284364
Booze and coke, I imagine. Still would.

>>84283977
Her nose is too big.

>>84284654
I know, right? Fuck this guy>>84284548

>>84283221
Of fugg, Luc Besson? I have to see it!

>>84284630
>while President Sanders gets single-payer going
I already could tell you were a faggot but seriously LOL

>>84283221
>cast an ugly "actress" who can't act.

WHY
WHY
WHY

>>84283221

The Avatar races and the qts will carry it.

>>84283221
Luc Besson just does whatever the fuck he wants because he's had so many huge successes in Hollywood. He was like "I wanna make another sci-fi" and they let him.

>>84284630
You had me until Bernie.

>>84284706
I willl never get over
>B-bernie was my retirement plan!

>>84284630
Fuck you, I love Culture but Consider Phlebas would make an absolutely shit film. I don't want any of those novels to become movies, it just wouldn't work.

>>84284764
Why dont you people realize this isnt a hollywood movie?

>>84284738
Nepotism.

>>84284922
Yeah, really HBO would be a better option. Why can't we have tits and lasers instead of tits and dragons?

>>84284630
>Muh gravitas

>>84284966
>i haven't read the books and/or i don't know what 'gravitas' means

>>84283221
I expect this will be quite good, but they picked an awful time to release it because nobody is seeing anything right now and everything is flopping. As usual, the fate of this film is in China's hands.

>>84285169
Maybe the Chinks will finally save something good then?

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>>84283579
I liked it
It was a but different
The end was awesome
>>84283762
A sequel you say?
Noice

>>84283328
>not knowing who The Beatles are
There is no future.

>>84283221
Watching that shitty trailer, who actually thought the movie was gonna be a hit?

>>84283762
No based Eric Balfour in sequel
Booo

>>84283258

>those big boobiecups on Cara's armour

completely unnecessary desu

I guess she could keep stuff in there, small items.

money laundering in the guise of "le art filme"

Lockout was heckin' good fun, I think this will too be heckin' good fun

>>84283412
>that makes zero narrative sense
He says having never seen the movie

>>84283258
Wasn't the entire point of that film just narcissistic wankery for the original tranny brother?

>>84285434
How can 1,000 planets be in one city huh

It's like a galaxy being on Orion's Belt

>>84285463
Its like mega city one, but in space.

>>84283221
what's the raunch level on this one?

>>84285773
There's a really over the top 45 minute scene of Dane deepthroating Cara

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>>84285463

In the Hyperion Cantos there was a river that ran through a series of instant teleportation gates, linking sections of river on many different planets together in one mega-river. You could do the same with a city I guess.

>>84285463
Delegations from 1000 different planets. They've all built this one, gigantic city in the space, where they do their diplomacy,

Think Babylon 5, but in much grander scale.

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>>84283221
>that codpiece

>>84285805
This seems like a great way for plagues to spread. That's how the Fourth Imperium fell, plagues spreading through the teleportation system.

>>84285463
>there are more planets in this city than atoms in the universe

>>84285297
The Strauss brothers did well by the way. I loved it, especially that ending.

>>84285349
That saddens me.

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>oops
>lol

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Remember when Cara was actually worth gazing upon?

Women really know how to remove all of their appeal

>>84283221
Another (((cinematic universe))) bites the dust.

>>84283221
I hope it is a hit. I do not expect it to be a hit however.

>>84283258
Except this timethere is aactually a decent director at the helm instead of the Hackchowskis

I'm guessing this got greenlit for fipm treatment because of how good Guardians of the Galaxy has done against all odds.

Like, I just got GOTG vibes when seeing the trailers.

>>84286028
Absolutely degenerate.

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>/tv/ saying it's going to flop
Massive box office success guaranteed

>>84283221
http://www.darkhorizons.com/valerian-isnt-as-big-a-risk-as-it-appears/

“Like every film company, we will only greenlight a project if at least 80% of its budget is covered. With ‘Valerian,’ we’ve covered 96% of the budget with pre-sales. The risk to EuropaCorp is 4% of the budget so there’s no actual financial risk. The risk for the company is more one of notoriety. If the film is a big flop, we’ll lose credibility for making these sorts of films. The risk is not financial, but rather human.”

>>84285884

That's Empire from the Ashes, right?

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>putting an actor whose been in nothing but flops and an "actress" whose just a model as your leads in a $220 million budget movie
Might just be crazy enough to work!

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is this hideous caveman's 15 minutes finally up?

>>84286428
What are the presales from?
I'm very ignorant about everything said in that article

>>84285463
>It's like a galaxy being on Orion's Belt
captain-america-reference.gif

>>84286428
And I had anons insist pre-sales are not a thing.

>>84286539
What is the deal, she jewish or something?
She seems like a rich girl that paid her way into being in movies.

>>84286539
El mustashio

>>84286428
can someone enlighten me on pre-sales

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>>84283221
>every day on /tv/
>another "___ movie flops!!!"

This trend is increasing at an exponential rate.

I like this. It means torrenting is working.

50 bucks say the one who greenlighted it won't even be fired

She is probably an industry spy, or gets a cut a from whatever studio they hired to do the film

>>84286560
Pre-sales are when the distributors (Be to movie-plexes or TV) pay upfront for the rights to sell the movie.

So for example, STX Entertainment decides they want to sell the movie to movie-plexes in the US, and they think they can earn 80 million dollars from it. They will offer 60 million to the company making the film and take the risk. The movie company gets 60 million to cover the costs, and out of the first 80 million STX Entertainment takes most of the money. After that they share if it a big hit.

Then they sell the TV rights for another 20 million to someone else for 10 years. Sony in Japan and Liongate in UK throw in 20 million, and next thing you know you have 210 million dollars coming in to make this film.

So the risk for the company is not that they will lose money, but if it bombs no one will pre-buy their films at such rates.

>>84286560
Licences for TV and worldwide use.

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>>84286722
Kind of like how /pol/ got Trump elected. 4chan is a collective of dumbasses whos use of memes has gotten so large that the Universal Law of Attraction is taking place and altering events.
Think of the Sunny episode where they do visionboards. Except instead of a yellow lamborghini its watching the world burn

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>>84286661
>What is the deal, she jewish or something?

part jewish

>>84283328
>ignore effects that tell you to do so
>effects that tell you to put a land onto the battlefield dont count as playing a land
i dont know if this is the official oracle ruling but this is poorly worded. it would be better to state "only one land card can be played from your hand per turn." if the player was familiar with the rest of the basic rules for magic that's all the info they would need to know regarding land drops.

>>84283388
Suicide Squad was a success and even won an Academy Award.

>>84286839

so jewish

>>84287133
everyone is jewish

>>84287024
its stating that cards that gives you a mana as an effect dont count against your basic land placement

>>84284548
I was prepared to love The Fifth Element. Saw it first showing on the day it came out.

It was a huge pile of shit worth less than the sum of its parts. I'd rather watch a 7 hour movie of Jar Jar Binks than 10 minutes of Ruby Rhod.

>>84286763
There were companies that looked at a teat screening or something and thought it would be successful
Wow

>>84287304
Most of the sales most likely happened prior to even full production. They pitched as Luc Besson doing science fiction using x property and the cast is X,y and Z And then show pre-production shots and perhaps some story boards and made the deal.

>>84287191
You are super yellow

>>84283328
yeah the beatles totally stole that song

>>84284548
nigger battlefield earth became a cult classic. every piece of shit becomes a cult classic. what's your fucking point?

>>84283689
Did they get a tranny?

>>84287855
>every piece of shit becomes a cult classic
brainlet mindset

It's going to make a fucking killing worldwide even if it makes 0 dollars in the US.

>>84283819
clones

>>84287947
>not enough memes for the US
>not woke enough for europe
>not loud and explody enough for china

who was this even made for?

This film needs to flop for films to get back to being anything but shit

Celebrity castings over real actors, bad casting with Dehaan (good actor but bad casting for this), CGI CGI CGI. A case of two much shit on screen as well

Even with sci-fi novels, when too much tries to be done, it just gets annoying or boring. One of my favourite sci-fi novels is A Fall of Moondust. The whole story is just survivors trapped under a lunar 'sea' of dust, and various characters trying to search for and/or rescue them. Even space opera doesn't need to visit 30 planets in one fucking movie, it's just too much

>>84283221
>carah
Into le trash

>>84287778
the beatles are fags and i dont listen to them

>>84288095
If it flops, the rationale will just be "oh, it wasn't capeshit"

>>84287049
>LE SUUUUUCIDE SKWAA OSCAR BRO REKT XD
Wrong faggot, he wasn't a main character therefore Suicide Squad isn't an argument

>>84288243
Capeshitters don't watch anything but capeshit, but that doesn't mean there are no other markets. People just won't bother turning up for lame looking shit. When trailers for sci-fi is just another bouncing 50 feet faggot fest with gay costumes, it's just inferior capeshit with heroes nobody knows

There is an alternative to this though, science fiction that just tells a fucking story and doesn't need CGI because it isn't 80% autistic action scenes nobody is excited by anyway. CGI is not exciting, people remember the quips not the fights in capeshit shitfests

>>84288363
>Capeshitters don't watch anything but capeshit
capeshitters reliably turn out for most blockbusters

Can someone explain this 'money laundering' meme to me?

>>84284630

The Culture books are garbage. The Culture is an AI civilization that keeps useless humans around as pets for pure nostalgia. The "good" guys are so overpowered that all the books are boring. There is no suspense. You start rooting for the bad guy underdogs to win. That's always a sign of bad writing.

>>84288796
Shittest of shit opinions.

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>>84283304
No shit !!

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>>84283328
>You can't do this
>You can't do that
>Nobody can do fucking anything
You know I fucking hate blue decks

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>>84283328
What are you talking bow, dummy !! There is nothing wrong with "Because".

>>84284548
Except Fifth Element opened at #1 and had a strong run (for it's time). It was a liked movie from the get go.

The fact is Cara cannot act to save her life, and she kills any movie she's in, at least ones where she's a main character.

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>>84288894

What will you do when President Trump throws your Bernie in prison?

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>>84286028
It was all the drugs and St Vincent.

>>84289072
Nothing. It's not like he's going to run again.

>>84288945
its a joke card, of the unglued variety

>>84289012
if /tv/ keeps saying this it'll turn out she puts in a perfectly acceptable one like Gadot with WW

meme magic

>>84288741
https://www.wsj.com/articles/malaysias-1mdb-the-secret-money-behind-the-wolf-of-wall-street-1459531987

To get around the paywall just link it in jewbook (don't even have to post it, just wait for the autolink)

>>84288363
>There is an alternative to this though, science fiction that just tells a fucking story
And when someone tries that autists scream and moan that something isn't exactly right, or is reddit (Interstellar and The Martian)

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Why is disneymarvel pajeets working overtime to shit on this movie????

>>84283221
>budget: $220 million
Ahahahaha. The money laundering Jews aren't even trying to be subtle anymore.

>>84284548
Fifth Element had good actors and felt fresh.

>>84289392
>Ahahahaha. The money laundering Jews aren't even trying to be subtle anymore.
They where able to get shit tons of pre sales on this.

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>>84287304
>teat screening

>>84289443
Wonder from who.

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The casting he chose is so lame and so far from the spirit of the comics. Valerian is supposed to be a rugged, swashbuckler, kinda ugly but charming type of guy. Those are the words from the creator of the comics. Besson's Valerian looks like a fag working on his female hormones transition phase. As for Delevigne why is she the title feminine character I have no idea. She can't act, she's not beautiful or feminine like Laureline is supposed to. Fuck Besson.

>>84283388
>he
Don't be mean to waifu.

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How Valerian inspired the character of Han Solo and Millenium Falcon (pic related)

>>84287899
ENOUGH.

Cara is beautiful.

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>>84283412
>a CGI shitstorm
I love this

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>/tv/ is still butthurt about Cara

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>>84283221
so ass effect cosplay doesnt sell in movie form. duly noted

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More stuff Star Wars took from Valerian

PERDU
QUELQUE PART DANS LE TEMPS
I've always wanted to fuck Laureline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W1cuRv6GRw

>>84289716
Jesus, even the Samurai look. How the fuck did Lucas managed not to get sued?

>>84288796

Player of Games is great. Shows the darker side of the culture. Main character was heavily manipulated (even a big chance that his entire life was them building him up for this mission, was looked down on for not having fucked a dude or changed sex, and loads of people died... and for what? Because the culture didn't like a species culture, and decided to take down the one factor that kept the culture from changing them.

It's basically shows what jews the culture AI's are. Meatbags are just goyims to serve their interests, all foreign governments bust be brought down to the same cattle status as the culture's own meatbags, and meatbags inside the culture that aren't 100% are seen as wierd/defective and manipulated in turning into a degenerate (in the end he fucks the slut he had a crush on, but never wanted to fuck him, while she was still turning back from being a man. They broke him, and turned him in just another degenerate. Altought it's possible he did it because he now realised he no longer had value, and the the culture's AI are not benevolent. So better to give them wat they want, or else he might have an accident. Especially sinds he knows things they want to keep secret, and everything around him is connected to big brother.).

>>84284630
The Culture is garbage. I just want something set in the 40k universe.

Or Stephen Baxter's Xeelee Sequence, the SUPERIOR space opera.

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>>84289799

>>84289716
What's left?

>>84283689
like a balding albino goblin hahahahah

>>84290136
>heels for a combat setting
Fucking disgusting.

>>84289716
>>84290051
That's descontextualized shit. More of these similarities are just things that appear in one page or less.

The reasons is that Lucas hired French artists whom, obviously, read the comic.

>>84290305
The shit is still ridiculously niggered.

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>>84289988
Valerian's creator Mezieres was so flabbergasted when he saw Star Wars that he wrote a few letters to Lucas who never answered. Mezieres then made this drawing in the comic where Valerian was published.
Leia : How funny to see you here
Valerian : Oh we've been here a long time.
Even the scene where Leia is in a bikini on a flying boat with the fat slug is ripped from Valerian.

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>>84283221
>who the fuck greenlit this

>>84290423
Pretty clever to steal from a french comic as only french people will notice. Nice one lucas.

>>84290423
He sure took the "great artists steal" thing a bit too far. I get letting yourself get inspired by something else, and sometimes going in a bit too deep and copying elements but he could've at least mention where he get the ideas and give the original creator some free publicity. Don't recall ever hearing about Valerian before the trailer aired.

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>>84290119
>the 40K universe

>>84283221
I can't drag myself to see this shit if Cara Bitchface is in it.

>See this thread
>Think /tv/ is just talking out of their ass again
>$220M Budget LOLSTOPPLAYINGUYS
>Google "Valerian budget"
>HOLY SHIT

>>84284548
Your momma ass will be a cult classic

I'd totally see it and support it financially if it didn't have Ms. Daddy Paid To Give Me A Career in a starring role. Fuck her.

>>84283221
I'll watch it because it's Besson, and I can't think of a bad movie of his. The chick in this is kind of an uggo though, not a solid casting choice IMO. I would prefer he picked Mila Kunis again except that would look too much like JA.

Need someone more athletic looking than her.

>>84291359
I don't even hate her like most on /tv/ seems to but she's absolutely not female lead quality. What the fuck were they thinking. Even the boring chicks from SW would be a better call.

>>84291428

Natalie Portman?

>>84290119
>culture is garbage
>but muh 40k

lol

>>84283221
i just can't watch anything with CGI anymore even if it's good, it makes me physically ill

>>84291479
At least she's good looking unlike the new leads, who are pretty average.

>>84290301
Get out of here, Plague.

>>84290423
wtf I hate Lucas now

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>>84286427
Literally this. I'm only going to support my waifu though

>>84289716
>valerian invented bikinis, space ships, old people, helmets, and burned heads

I'll give you the carbonite but sci-fi ice isn't too big a thing.

>>84283354
I thought Avatar 2 wasn't until 2022?

It's money laundering, you pleb retards. Maybe with a hint of tax fraud. This shit happens all the time. Probably eastern European or Chinese.

>>84283258
Didn't /tv/ learn anything from Wonder Woman?

>>84287456

why do you guys even keep trying, you are obviously shit at this.

>>84283328
i hope this is the unset lands. i really do.

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>>84283221

>naming your movie after a sleeping pill

what did luc mean by this?

>>84293512
WW was a surprise for many, to be fair. If this doesn't flop, it's going to be an even bigger surprise.

>>84284548
put me in the screencap

>>84283221
Isn't the woman on th right the one who told her friend to kys and got 20 years for it?

>>84283221

>$220 million
>recycled costumes from lost in space 1998

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>implying it will flop

I am certain it will make triple its budget

>>84283221

>Valerian and the City of a Thousand JUSTs

>>84288253
It made over $700mil without China as a financial success and Cara was the main villain.

>>84295379
>eyebrows

>>84283221
>retard finally realizes Hollywood is a money laundering scheme

>>84293595
Massive amount of butthurt for no fuller art lands.
They need 3 card landscapes no borders.

>>84283221
THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO TANK BECAUSE BESSON CAST AN EFFEMINATE EMO BETA TWINK AND A PUG UGLY SCRAWNY SKANK DYKE AS THE LEADS!!! I LOVE THE FIFTH ELEMENT AND HAVE BEEN DYING FOR SHITHEAD TO MAKE ANOTHER SCI-FI MOVIE FOR TWENTY FUCKING YEARS AND HE FUCKS IT RIGHT IN THE ASS WITH THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT!!! I HOPE IT CRASHES AND FUCKING BURNS!!! OH AND BESSON IS A PEDO!!!FACT!!!

can someone post that picture of caterpillar eyebrows doing that weird gyrating dance from suicide squid? it's a webcam

it's mesmerizing

>>84286028
Remember when there was a carafag very diligent in both r9k/ and tv/ just like the cunnybot.

>>84293083
>but sci-fi ice isn't too big a thing
Literally the stupidest thing I've read on 4chan this week. congrats.

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>just want space opera
>they make all these weird stupid space movies
>execs see space movies do bad and don't greenlit good ones

WHEN WILL I GET MY SPACE PIRATE KINO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>84287145
I live among the Navajo in New Mexico and let me tell you they are very very NOT Jewish.

Don't give a fuck about their own and have zero ability with money.

>Planning for a movie to be underrated and a cult classic
Yeah nah it's going to flop

>>84286763
STX currently has exclusivity rights to have their movies on Showtime.

>>84296549
>I live among the Navajo in New Mexico and let me tell you they are very very NOT Jewish.
You must be fucking retarded for willingly doing that. If you aren't then lmao @ ur lyfe.

>>84285463
underrated

>>84283221
GET FUCKED DANE YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

>>84283328
I just realized that the new mana changes make Calming Verse utter bullshit.

I mean, it kinda was utter bullshit already in some matchups, and if you tailored it to your deck, but now it just hoses enchantment decks hard no matter what, with no blowback to you whatsoever.

Damn.

It looks awesome.
Horrible cast though

Every fifth element and sci fi fan will see this. Will finish its run around 95 million domestically.

Chances of being a sleeper hit with legs really depends on Dane's performance. Can he make the girls wet like Dicaprio?

>>84283689
A shame his heads in the way, that'd be a great reaction pic

Hell it looks better than 90% of the shit that is usually out. I'll go see it.

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I thought it was directed by Robert Bresson

>>84283221
>who the fuck greenlit this
it had the gross jewish girl, you know they always give big budgets when it comes to gross jewish girls starring on flicks.

This shit was pure money laundering.

>>84287191
Ya I don't know why so many people rate it highly. It's good if your a child, but there's no sane reason why an adult should find that movie good.

>>84283499
>it's science fiction
Trailer looked more like science fantasy to me. It would be like calling GOTG sci fi. That gives a bad name to sci fi. You need more than just a space setting to call it sci fi.

>>84283412
>two unappealing leads

Overly generous.

>>84286427
This . The fact that you faggots already dislike it means it will be a smash hit.

>>84283221
>Guys! Guys! It flopped you guys!

Movie comes out next month.

>>84299275
hahahaha, what the fuck, is this actually in the movie?

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Blonde Laurine? Lost immersion since the poster.

>>84283412
However Avatar was a blockbuster, and has all those elements.

>>84283221
>flop
>hasn't been released yet
>tomatometer not even available
...Kay


Still going to see it. Opening week. On the discount day.

>>84301689

Some movies just have that look where most people can tell no one is going to go see it. King Arthur is a pretty good recent example.

>>84283328
>Hating on the Beatles

If anything it was the trailer song that made me want to see the movie. (Still not seeing it)

>>84301689
I mean I plan on seeing it too, but this seems like a pretty obvious bet, /tv/ usually being wrong notwithstanding.

I was right about King Arthur though

>>84283221
> film hasn't been released
> OP shits on it anyway

EVERYONE PAY ATTENTION TO ME

>>84301795
>Some movies just have that look where most people can tell no one is going to go see it. King Arthur is a pretty good recent example.
Yeah, I think it won't be a blockbuster but time will tell if it'll be a flop.

>I mean I plan on seeing it too, but this seems like a pretty obvious bet, /tv/ usually being wrong notwithstanding.
/tv/ hates just about everything and this is no different.

>>84283221

Europa Corp is only on the hook for four percent of it. Pre sales will take care of the other 96%. Even if it flops they'll be fine.

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>>84284706
>retards still laughing at single-payer healthcare and the only honest politician who ran in the 2016 election
How did we get so fucking stupid? What happened, man?

>>84289366
Because it's bucking the trend of homogenising all large budget 'blockbuster' film and tv production into ~3 hollywood studios?

>>84302795
Literally what the fuck are you even saying here?

>>84302709
>honest politician
no refunds ;)

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>>84302878
Oh, good one. Because clearly he's in the pocket of the Big Donations granny SuperPac amirite?

>>84299920
It was fucking horrid, so yes.

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>>84302709
>honest politician

>>84302842
That fanboys are hating on this because it's not being rammed down their throats by a large american production company. I bet you liked the avengers.

>>84302983
Yes, why didn't he just go full nuclear and make it even harder for the Dem party to win? What a sellout!!

>>84303088
>We're gonna bring down the establishment!
>No wait, we can't destroy the establishment, what are you crazy? Vote for the establishment!

>>84302983
Whats your point?

>>84303195

That he was weak and dishonest.

>>84303175
He went with what he believed to be the lesser evil. Which I can only hope everyone did last election. I hope no one honestly thought either candidate was somehow a good choice.

>>84303088
so you're just another partisan moron that doesn't actually care about change

>>84303175
Politics isn't some zero-sum game you fucking child? What did you expect him to do? The DNC literally fucked him over and any of his chances. Did you expect him to risk losing all political capital he had left to start a party war? Grow up.

>>84303262
Yes, because obviously I said that. It's called choosing your battles.

>>84303088
>>84303195
Remember. No refunds

>>84303249
Name a single thing he lied about.

>>84303314

Considering he's on the brink of death anyway, yes. If you're calling for widespread change but are easily knuckled under and won't rock the boat when the chips are down, you're just kind of a blowhard bitch.

>>84283221
Cara's tits arent nearly that big

>>84303378
socialism works, which he claimed Venezuela was proof of lmao

>>84303387
I don't know him personally, so I have,no idea why he buckled like he did. I was disappointed in that just like everyone else was but I live in s complicated world, buddy. It doesn't make him fucking Benedict Arnold because he towed his own party's line, backing the Dem candidate that won its own primary.

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>>84283258

I proudly own a digital copy and a DVD of that movie. Fantastic bad movie.

>>84303422
Pretty sure he's never cited Venezuela for socialism.

>>84303359
I don't understand this meme, every candidate asks for donations. How was it better to give their own money to a literal billionaire? How cucked do you have to be to think that makes you look smart?

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>>84283328
The man's being betrayed by his own face. Always looks tired as hell due to those bags no matter the amount of energy he displays.

I'd cast him as a villain.

>>84303490
he and every wannabe American socialist has

>>84303314
Sounds like he is just a sellout taking all your reddit donations for a ride or just a pet for hilldog.

>>84303552
You are going to have to source that. He's mentioned Denmark and European nations as examples.

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>>84283221
is this the sequel to jupiter ascending

>>84303458

It tells me he wasn't that committed to the ideas he espoused, making him essentially the same as all other politicians.

>big hollywood movie
more of the same shit! every movie is the same! I hate it!
>non-hollywood blockbuster
how dare they make different things! this doesnt conform to the norms! it will flop for sure!

>>84303599
Nice memespeak, I'm sure you are cutout for the life of a political commentator.

>>84291279

this

>>84303526
The meme is that bernie received his massive donations on his promise to fight the establishment. He got fucked by the dnc and hillary then sold out bending over for Hillary donating all that money to the cause that screwed him over.

>>84303649
>he is exactly the same as other politicians
That's not even remotely fair and you fucking know that, what a ridiculous standard you must have. He lost the Dem primary, he was a Dem candidate, he chose to run for them. You are essentially saying he's literally the same as a corrupt politician because he accepted the outcome of his party's own race.

That's autistic.

>>84303768
So again:

You are complaining because he accepted the outcome of his party's own race.

>>84303653
Not an argument

>>84303834
Blabbing about rebbit isn't one either, Stefan.

>>84303769

Yes. How was he going to bring any tangible change to the country if he couldn't even face the obvious bullshit in his own party?

>>84283221
same people who greenlit John Carter, Lone Ranger, and half the Waalozkoshisizizes movie

>>84303859
Well obviously he wanted to win the primary you fucking idiot.

>>84283689
literally punching herself in the face

dont care tho her radio voice in GTA makes me diamonds

>>84303806
See this guy
>>84303859

>>84303947
I already answered that.

>>84296162
>claims to like space pirate kino
>posts some god awful space TACTICOOL PRESS X TO AWSUM /v/ shit

Go eat a bag of donkey dicks and choke on the last one.

>>84303985
that's not from a video game, fag

try taking your own advice

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>>84303870
>>84303870
Do you think these films after 2005 compare to The Adventures Of Pluto Nash, Waterworld, Ishtar

>>84304043
Waterworld is actually entertaining

>>84303900

We're talking about the aftermath when Hilary's victory was essentially locked up. Why go back on everything you said right at the end if change is really what you care about? Where does change start if not at home?

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>>84284630
>Darkest fucking timeline. Fuck my fucking parallel universe self watching the trailer for Consider Phlebas while President Sanders gets single-payer going.

Fuck off and die.

The Culture Novels = SJW sci fi fantasy

sodomites

>>84304096
Yes again, you keep complaining that a Dem candidate backed the winner of his party's own primary...

I honestly don't know what you expected him to do, murder her? The DNC already bearly fucked up his entire political life. He wasn't going to win that battle at the time.

>>84304253
*nearly

>>84283304
He must feel awful now

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>>84295544

Uh...we don't do that all-caps, stupid catch-phrase namefaggotry here.

>>84303870
ITS
NOT
A
HOLLYWOOD
MOVIE

holy shit /tv/ is legit retarded

>>84283258
You mean John Carter?

>>84304253

By not knuckling under and endorsing her at the end, especially when it became obvious what was happening with the fixing in the primaries. I see why he did it, but if he couldn't take that on or at least stand by his values in defeat then he would have been a shit president. Nothing of value was lost.

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B L A C K E D

>>84304412
>backing the winner of your party's primary
>automatically makes you a shit President
Literally would have been better than whatever circus we have now...

>>84304316
It would have to be one highest budget french made films

>>84304446

Running on an anti-establishment platform and hiding behind the party shield any time you're criticized is a cop out and you know it.

>>84304493
You have trouble really formulating an argument against "backing the party winner", without defaulting to the same criticism 3 times, don't you?

>>84304493
>hiding behind the party shield any time you're criticized
When does he do that? He lost the primary anon...again, as I keep asking, what literally did you want him to do? Give me an actual plan.

>>84304585
he was screwed out of the primary

>>84304621
DNC didn't forge votes...

>>84304552

Why back the establishment candidate when you've been talking about how its the root of all our problems for a year? He'd at least be respectable even if he ultimately lost.

>>84304585

Not endorsing Hilary would be a start. Pulling the curtain back on the primaries in an open way would be a good follow up.

>>84304703
Endorsing Hillary was an attempt not to split the Dem vote any more than Hillary already and inadvertently split by fucking Bernie over.

>>84283328
Island is the most powerful card in Magic.

>>84304775

I know, my point is that at the end of the day he's an establishment shill like all the others.

>>84283258
I CREATE LIFE

>>84304851
One instance of him backing his party's winner, completely makes him an establishment shill in your eyes? That's just really juvenile thinking to be honest.

>>84304930

Yes. It's what he ultimately did when all his lifes work came to a head. I see no reason not to.

>>84289556
Maybe Besson or some producer wanted that twink boipussy?

>>84305307
Because it's painfully immature to stack his entire 30-year career on backing a single candidate that won his party's own primary...

>>84305430
*stack against I meant

>>84305430

Yeah, he was a flimsy waif and the race showed it. He would have been a shit president even if he somehow backed into it, especially for those hoping for him to do anything anti-establishment.

>>84305637
He literally would have been a pretty good President and better than Hillary or Trump but keep sperging out I guess, keep ignoring the 3 decades worth of him fighting for the middle class all because he did what virtually every running candidate of any party does when they lose their primary...

>>84305761
>keep ignoring the 3 decades worth of him fighting for the middle class

lmao, didn't realize I was arguing with his campaign manager. Ah well, this has been fun.

>>84305884
Is the argument that he hasn't...? Is there an argument here outisde of "lmao I can't even"?

Anybody know any helpful painting programs to help me make illuminated manuscripts about my fort?