1984

>implying anyone on this dump has actually read 1984
>implying anyone here reads

>>84279254
Kek. Yes anon everyone but you has been conditioned.

>>84279477
I know I've probably been well conditioned tool. That's why I don't trust anything I think nor what a collective does. Even though I'm on /pol/ a lot I can see just as how close they are to the sjw's as the get triggered with everything.
Just the other day someone was bitching about how YouTube had that think on their banner saying that their heart is out to that Muslim lady that died. He and some others just jumped to hate saying this and that just because YouTube wanted to show compassion for one lady that was murdered. She literally didn't do anything wrong but they just blindly hate for fun. /pol/ and sjw are equally retarded.

>>84279439
What more can I get out of the book that I wouldn't from the movie? I understand that the book is very short itself

>>84279254

Goldstein is meant to be a representation of Leon Trotsky, a Communist who was ousted by the other Communist for not being dedicated to Communism enough.

Also the ENTIRETY of 1984 is an expose on how nightmarishly backwards and destructive Communism is.
/pol/ is already well aware of how shit-tier Communism is. The people that need to read/watch 1984 are primarily libshit Bern-victims like you.

>>84279439
I read it. It's an enjoyable short read

>>84281869
Why am I a libshit bern-victim? You a /pol/tard? Because becoming easily triggered and jumping to conclusions is very polish.

Obama ushers in the total surveillance police state but that's somehow Trump's fault.

Obama kills and imprisons Americans without trial but that's totally cool because he's a Democrat.

>>84281973
>Obama ushers in the total surveillance police state
bush started that, obama just expanded it

>>84281973
Its the side effects of the brainwashinf

Orwell got redpilled from commies because they betrayed anarchists during Spanish Civil War.

So you fucking tell me how terrible communism is if you can get a leftie as Orwell was hate commies with all his guts.

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>>84279439
You weren't forced to read it in high school?

>>84279439

1984 is shit and for some reason loved by absolute plebs

But Brave New World is fucking terrifying.

>>84282016
>it's ok when our side does it!

>>84281869
This pretty much sums it up. Anyone who disagrees is both illiterate and ignorant of the time period in which this book was written

Honestly, being a democrat I'm a bit embarrassed by this whole thread

>>84281939
>polish

Hello summer nigger

Fucking hang yourself

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>liberals are just now reading a book that educated people read by the time they turned 13 because muh Drumpf

It's embarrassing.

>>84281869
>>84281973
>>84282055
Orwell realized that we are all fucked no matter what type of government you have

>>84282162
No. You're wrong. Completely ignorant of history. A total idiot

>>84279795
>the /pol/ and sjws are two sides of the same coin meme still exists

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>>84282196
>I must say I believe, or fear, that taking the world as a whole these things are on the increase. Hitler, no doubt, will soon disappear, but only at the expense of strengthening (a) Stalin, (b) the Anglo-American millionaires and (c) all sorts of petty fuhrers of the type of de Gaulle. All the national movements everywhere, even those that originate in resistance to German domination, seem to take non-democratic forms, to group themselves round some superhuman fuhrer (Hitler, Stalin, Salazar, Franco, Gandhi, De Valera are all varying examples) and to adopt the theory that the end justifies the means. Everywhere the world movement seems to be in the direction of centralised economies which can be made to ‘work’ in an economic sense but which are not democratically organised and which tend to establish a caste system. With this go the horrors of emotional nationalism and a tendency to disbelieve in the existence of objective truth because all the facts have to fit in with the words and prophecies of some infallible fuhrer. Already history has in a sense ceased to exist, ie. there is no such thing as a history of our own times which could be universally accepted, and the exact sciences are endangered as soon as military necessity ceases to keep people up to the mark. Hitler can say that the Jews started the war, and if he survives that will become official history. He can’t say that two and two are five, because for the purposes of, say, ballistics they have to make four. But if the sort of world that I am afraid of arrives, a world of two or three great superstates which are unable to conquer one another, two and two could become five if the fuhrer wished it. That, so far as I can see, is the direction in which we are actually moving, though, of course, the process is reversible.

>>84282196

1984 is on tons of high school reading lists, just like animal farm

If you are reading it as an adult while chastising others for having not read it or being illiterate then... well just keep doing what you are doing actually. I like it when retards wear their stupidity on their sleeve.

>>84282314
POL BTFO
>>84282233
Refute me
>>84282109
actually its winter here

>>84282595
>he thinks that btfo's /pol/

>>84281869
>Also the ENTIRETY of 1984 is an expose on how nightmarishly backwards and destructive Communism is.
*totalitarianism

it's anti-stalin. orwell was also left-wing

>>84281939

>Why am I a libshit bern-victim?

Because you were butthurt enough to come to /tv/ and start a thread whining about /pol/ and /pol/'s beliefs.

>>84281973

Brown people can't be wrong, Anon.

Stop questioning Obama. What are you, some kind of Tea-Partier?

>>84281973
>>84282016
it was in the works for a long time, the product of countless laws and changes in mindset, certainly before the patriot act

>>84282101
That's what i meant though Trotsky is a good jew. Who we are made to hate. Just like Soros. Soros is merely an benevolent ideologist. Yet pol sees him as a one man Zionist machine

>>84282826
>Trotsky kill em all
>Good

Loving every laugh

>>84282826
>>84282826
Soros literally believes himself to be God.

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>>84282826
can you fuck off back to r*ddit?

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>>84282654
>he thinks I'm serious.
>>84282708
But I practically live on /pol/. Am I only allowed to be critical of /pol/ on pol? Where do you think that'll get me?
>>84282816
Alex Jones is right. America is practically 1984 already
>>84282919
When you have that kind of power I wouldn't be surprised. Atleast he's honest
>>84282964
Can you suck my dick?
>pic related
Replace liberal with polack

>>84283061
jesus, I really hope you're underage.

>>84283084
At heart baby. Why?

>>84283061
>polack

He you are getting there

A few more weeks and you might be able to pass as something more than summer

>>84282070
Patrician opinion right here fellas

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>>84283488
Yay :^D

>>84279254
Bave New World > 1984

>>84283636
yeah, all those Al Qaeda terrorists are really bringing it down in Europe. We hear that name all the time now!

>>84283535
>>84283692
eh, 1984 is better written plus impactful because it is deadly serious instead of tongue in cheek the entire time

>>84283692
Brave new world is what we get after 1984

>>84283737

Yet BNW is the far more terrifying prospect and the direction the world is moving in

>>84282070
>>84283535
Samefag right here everyone.

>>84283979
I don't know if that's true. 1984 was from the perspective of a member of the Party, meanwhile 85% of the population is made up of stupid proles that busy themselves with shitty pop songs and mindless work.

>They are described as caring little about anything but home and family, neighbour quarrels, films, football, beer, lottery tickets, and other such bread and circuses. They are not required to express support for the Party beyond occasional patriotic fervour; the Party creates meaningless entertainment, songs, novels and even pornography for the proles — all written by machines. Julia is a mechanic tending the novel writing machines in Pornosec. Proles do not wear uniforms, may use cosmetics, have a relatively free internal market economy, and would be even permitted religion if they had interest in it. Proles also have liberal sex lives, uninterrupted by the Party, and divorce and prostitution are enjoyed by Proles. Despite these personal freedoms, the Thought Police plant agents among the proles to spread false rumours and eliminate any individuals deemed capable of causing trouble.

not spot on but not too far off the mark either

>all of the people using doublespeak in this thread
you probably don't even notice
>>84283737
>1984 is better written plus impactful
like this little guy =3

>>84284354
where's the doublespeak in that?

ITT: people that didn't do their homework

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step aside you utter plebeians

>>84279254
Weak b8 m8.

>>84282657
This. Leftists and /pol/tards would all do well to read it. It's anti-totalitarian, not anti- some particular flavor of totalitarianism. Yes, it's ridiculous that leftists who never read it before rush to misapply it to Trump. But it's quite a relevant read anyway. Americans are very stupid on average. Populism has risen lately - both on the left (sanders) and the right (drump) I fear that if the economy ever became real shit, things could trend authoritarian. The idiotic love affair that some contrarians online have with fascism isn't encouraging, either. We're talking about people so stupid that they will support Anything as long as it's against the mainstream. Yeah, a lot of it is tongue in cheek, but these people are retards so that's small comfort.

>>84285484
pseudo intellectual

>>84284521
This op faggot doesn't understand the concept of doublespeak just ignore him. I also agree that 1984 is better written with orwells simple prose

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>>84283735
If only they had listened.
>>84284187
Everything you described is the world we live in.
>>84285364
But its true

>>84283735
Al Qaeda are LITERALLY the same thing as ISIS