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AAAAA GABAGOOL
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It blows my mind how anyone could possibly think breaking bad is better than sopranos
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i liked that episode when the main character could not control his anger
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>>84270163
woah! watch the attitude!
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>>84270163
name a better show
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ANTOKNEEEEEEE
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you know Quasimodo predicted all this
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>>84270137
Who the fuck thinks that?

The wire is the underdog contender for GOAT but /tv is divisive on it because: niggers.
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do italian americans have their dick cut off at birth like other cuckmericans?
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WATCH IT, MORDO!
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>>84270125
lol I'm watching the series again (2nd viewing, watching it for the first time around 2007-2008)

halfway through the first season and man I didn't realise how great this is

I think it's even better than the wire.

>>84270137

I unironically don't even know why people put breaking bad on GOAT tier status. it's a watchable show but nothing goat worthy. it's like 8-8.5/10 tops

it seems like the show that was babies first non NBC CBS ABC FOX CW show.
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>>84270206
Get your fuckin' shine box!
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>>84271757
everytime I watch wire and sopranos I change my opinion on which is better. But in general I think the quality of Sopranos has more fluctuation whereas wire is consistently good. I almost never find myself skipping scenes watching the wire, but with Sopranos I easily skip half of it, basically everything with carmela and the kids and dream sequences.
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>>84271848
I think The Wire has better characters, or at least a bigger variety of them, which makes them more interesting

But the Sopranos is, by far, the best written show of all time
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I can't even put my finger on why this show was so GOAT. I hated the first two seasons and had to convince myself to keep watching

Then by the end of the show I thought it was the best show I'd ever seen
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>>84270125

SHUT THE DOOR YOURSELF, TONY
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>>84271890
I think Sopranos handles its characters better. They are all shown as selfish and all have their own version of truth, like in the real world. But then again its not a fair comparison, since Sopranos is all about characters whereas the wire is a show about institutions. It has a lot more to say than Sopranos, which can be a bit repetitive at times. Annoying kids, sad wife, ex convict who clashes with tony and ends up dead, young striving dumbass who fails and gets whacked, how many times did they repeat those.
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>>84271900

S1 and S2 are fantastic, though. Weakest is whichever one had the fat faggot and 3 episodes' worth of his romance with the biker cook
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this show always makes me feel hungry.

I always want those sandwiches they eat and the shit Artie and Carmella make all the time

Annoying thing is. as much as I like the intro. it's too fucking long for every episode.

have the full version for the first EP of each season then cut it down
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>>84271976
>young striving dumbass who fails and gets whacked, how many times did they repeat those.

Brendan Filone, Matthew Bevilacqua and Jackie Jr. are the ones I remember, though they were all very well done and different in setup. And Bevilacqua was a collateral from Jackie Jr.'s stickup

They all hit me hard (except maybe Filone, though it was also well-setup and essential to establish Uncle Junior's character early on) and felt unique. It's a show about the mob, their dealings are murder, racketeering and vice- You're gonna get the essential scenarios repeatedly, someone fucks someone over, disputes over money and territory, murders over perceived disrespect, etc.
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*glass shatters*
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I had an argument with a friend a while ago, l want to see what /tv/ thinks. I claim there's a clear general arc David Chase had envisioned for the show (with occasional detours whenever a writer came up with interesting scripts), he claims it's obvious they made most of it up as they went along and it was basically a "slice of life" mob show that ended simply because it ran its course.

I think the overarching theme of the series is futility. People making the same mistakes over and over again and being hypocrites. You can't help but notice Uncle Jun's small dialog bits indicating senility as early as S1, and then he goes full blown dementia on the later seasons many years later and not see a larger plan for the series

A lot of people think the last season had a "random" ending, but it was a carefully orchestrated unraveling of Tony's life. His marriage going to shit for good, everyone dying over the beef with Phil, Johnny Sack's life likewise taking a grim turn - The whole series is about blind people who keep giving themselves false hope of change and attributing life-changing significance to small events in their life - This is lampshaded with all the therapy scenes, and that Tony's very last serssion with Dr. Melfi has him leaving the office exactly the same way he went in, on episode 1 of S1
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>>84272216
>hiding in a closet

lmfao I never noticed this. was this done on purpose or am I just grasping at straws
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>>84272306

Obviously intended
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>>84272260

Continued due to char limit: The very last song heard in the series, "Don't Stop Believing" was so deliberately chosen it hurts - Tony kept fooling himself and believing his "luck" was gonna turn around no matter how bad things got. His random blurts of "my luck took a turn for good since that kid (Chrissy)" died, him "testing" his luck with the gambling episodes (which a lot of people claim was "out of nowhere" and that it was "uncharacteristic" for Tony to have a gambling addiction - I thought it was par for the course for that last season and that it was being established as early as the Pie Oh My/horse racing episodes)

tl;dr was Sopranos highly crafted kino TV or was it mostly made up as it went along? I think the evidence is all there for a clear series bible with a clear outcome and highly specific character development
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HE'S

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FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG
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>>84271848
i used to switch opinion upon viewing, too. but this year, after watching both, sopranos is clearly the better quality
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>>84272216
>phil comes out of the closet
whoa really makes me dink
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>>84271848
The wire was more ambitious in its storytelling, but the sopranos was a better show.
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breaking bad is pretty good, it filled a pretty big void for the first few years it was on because the sopranos had ended. it's also reasonably original with entertaining characters. the context of the plot and walter white character/actor is why it is still popular. it isn't as good a show as BCS imo.

>>84272260
>>84272431
i agree with you anon. your friend might be right though.
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>>84270137
I remember thinking Breaking Bad was the best show ever. Then my parents called me a pleb and we binged watched The Sopranos together. I was wrong about Breaking Bad.
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>>84271665
every fucking thread
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What was with all of them being poser ass Italians throwing in random Italian words in their speech when it seemed like none of them could even understand Italian

I understand them not being able to speak it but the way acted you would think they could at very least understand "their" language

even Livia needed a translation when that nursing home director lady told that some Italian quote
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>>84273083
I'm learning on Duolingo
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>>84271848
>skipping dream sequences
how can one be so pleb
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>>84273248
They literally dont add anything interesting or new. Its just Tony meeting dead people or showing his feelings we already know
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>>84273402
Lol wirepleb
That show is a cancer that subsists on plebscum
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were there hints in vitos acting that indicated he was gay? I thought his acting in the scene where they joke about ade sucking tony was kinda sus, but this might be confirmation bias
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>>84273083
They literally have an episode about that
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What was his fucking problem?
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>>84272216
Is it true that originally Vito wasn't supposed to die that early and he was written out because the actor was annoying? Or did I get memed?
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https://youtu.be/OUdZhMsSZcA

This fucking scene lmao
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>>84274785
This guy not only looks exactly but has the same mannerisms as the towelhead who works at my local store. Same non-personality doormat who is a pussy hound and is a passive-agressive douche when you're out of earshot.
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Your hair was in the toilet water. Disgusting.
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>>84273625
>pleb pleb pleb

so you have no arguments to defend dumbass dream sequences, got it
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>>84274787
they strung his shit out for like a full season
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>>84274787
There's a four hour doc on Amazon about the Sopranos and they bring this up. Vito's actor had the idea for sucking the security guard off at the construction site, and suggested it to Chase. The thread was a dead end, and there was clearly nothing better to do with Vito.
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>>84276376
Imagine the situation

>Hey guys, i thought, like, maybe i should suck somebody's dick in the next episodes
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>>84276774
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>>84271848
You should probably just go ahead and kill yourself
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>>84280741
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why does tony act out on people and then goes and talks nice to them later?

and why does he often let others decide on hard decisions when they ask him for help?
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Watch it Zeusy
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>"It's like what Popeye says I am what I am"
>"Well I didn't marry a cartoon"

What did she mean by this?
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>>84275930
>Watch the soprano's 5 times
>Watch curb for the first time
>Watch soprano's for the 6th time
>This scene

Fucking Died.
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>>84272431
I know this is kind of ridiculous, but 9/11 also had a significant impact on the way the series unfolded. They introduced those Middle Eastern drug dealers shortly afterwards and by the end of the show they're seen entering a mosque near the pork store, signifying a decay of the old neighborhood.
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>>84282640
Are you me?
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>janice walks in
>scene instantly ruined
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>super oldfag, been in the game for decades
>shrewd businessman
>doesn't completely lose his temper and go insane at the drop of a hat like everyone else

Why wasn't he the boss instead of tony again?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10665251
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>>84284907
yeah he did why else would he tell bullshit about fingerprints on money. then he went and tried to get junior to talk and then had a sitdown to conduct business which was already discussed
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>>84271791
I can't take this guy seriously in the Sopranos. He always has an extremely stupid grin on his face and his eyebrows look retarded. Plus he never says anything interesting.
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>>84284827
Didnt want to be the boss.
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>>84270137
It blows my mind how there's never a sopranos thread without some asshole bringing up breaking bad
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>>84284827
couldn't handle the stress. did you even watch the show?
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>>84285663
Yes he wanted to. Did you miss the episode where Tony was in a coma? His anxiety and autism prevented him from becoming boss.
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>>84284827
silvio was just one dude on tony's crew until jackie sr. died in season one, and there's no way he was going to move up past his own boss

even then, silvio was less senior than paulie and probably made less money, which is why paulie eventually became underboss while silvio stayed a very unofficial consigliere without much pull on what tony did or didn't. His low earnings probably came from his lack of ambition and his unwillingness to bend rules, which all the successful bosses on the show (tony, big carmine, johnny sack) did in spades while traditionalists either backed down too early or turned everyone against them (little carmine, junior, phil retardo)
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>>84276195
Well, there was so much packed in there...
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I WANT TO BE FBI NOW
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>>84272689
>tfw someone uses your OC
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>>84286459
they never said that silvio was a low earner, he was probably on a similar level as paulie. the bing probably made very good profits, especially the vip lounge
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>>84284827
>doesn't completely lose his temper and go insane at the drop of a hat like everyone else
It was because of this, he was too much of a low test cuck
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>>84286720
>>84286459
It seems that earning didn't matter as much as how smart the people with the money were. Silvio and Paulie probably made similar amounts, but Pauline was an idiot and so lived in an apartment while Silvia had a nice house
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>>84282308
Sounds like a Vincepost
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TAKE ME TO THE RIVER
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CAHMELLA GRAB ME A COKE® AND SOME PULP FREE® TROPICANA® WILL YA
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>>84286720
no, but they rarely spelled out who made the most, other than saying vito and ralph made a ton off the esplanade. Paulie never gave up on anything, like when he was feuding with feech over the landscaping businesses (which had to be chump change, comparatively), plus he kept doing muscle-type jobs like stealing that dishwasherload of cash from the colombians, and when christopher was made paulie could stand to give him his sportsbook, which probably made tens of thousands in a good week. Silvio has the bing and makes at least some collections, like with the russian in pine barrens, but he's rarely shown going out of his way to make money like paulie
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>>84271917
holy fuck is this real?
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Whoa, Chrissy, the fuck? This isn't the Bing!
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>>84287071

CARMELLA WOULD YOU PLEASE SHUT THE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
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>>84285319
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Gabagool?
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>>84271848
Fuck you are a raging Plen. Hope you're trolling.

And no wonder you can't figure out The Sopranos is like 30% better than Le Beat the Viewer Over the Head with the Theme. It's because you're a raging 14 y/o pleb.
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>>84270230
True detective. Season 1
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>>84271976
>It has a lot more to say than Sopranos

I understand why someone would think this, because the Wire is overtly about institutions rather than people, as you say. But The Sopranos ends up having much more to say, and having a much broader thematic scope because it really examines all human experience through its portrayal of The Sopranos characters. The Wire, by contrast, limits itself to examining the human experience *within PDs, drug orgs, schools, the press, and dockworkers in a big dysfunctional modern Western city.* The Sops' themes aren't limited in any way by qualifiers like those within the asterisks.

That is, people living 2,000 years ago in Rome could relate to what's happening in the Sopranos, as could people living 2,000 years in the future living in whatever horrible shithole we've descended into. Can't say this about the Wire--it's subject matter is simply much more limited.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orhLd14F3n8

Watch this and pretend it's 2006 again for 2 hours. That subway commercial with Jared surrounded by kids is sinister as fuck
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>>84287198
>He throws the coffee in the midgets face and calls him a weirdo fuck

Is Paulie the most powerful character in all of fiction? You can insert him into any universe or canon and he'll instantly start kicking ass
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>>84272260
1. There's no way the writers wrote as they went. The writing's too good for that to be the case. They're smart writers, but they'd have to be Shakespeare Jr.s to pull that off.

2. I don't think we can narrow The Sopranos to having one overarching theme. It's just about people and life, and the writing is good enough and open ended enough that you can draw numerous conclusions from putting certain events together in patterns.

Futility is a part of life, and it found its way into the show, I'll agree, but there are plenty of subjects you could say the show is about just as much, or even just recharacterize the events that are "futile" as something else.
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>>84273402
100% wrong. You should stick to BrBa and Marvel. The Sopranos is not fo ryou.
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>>84286720
Do we even know that Silvio *earns* and contributes to Tony's profits like the other guys? Maybe as consiglierie, and because the Bing is legit, he wasn't really contributing in the way the other guys did.

Seems odd for Silvio to contribute profits from the Bing directly to Tony. I can see him contributing to Tony if he gains from illegal business, but maybe providing the Bing as an office and providing advice to Tony was enough.
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>>84284827

Because being Boss paints a huge target on your back. Who needs that stress? Silvio is one of the smartest characters in the show for many reasons.
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>>84287783
you kick up 10 points no matter where they are some, some of the businesses are legal or in a gray area and sil also pimped the girls, he probably made most with the vip lounge. when eugene got the big check he gave the points to tony
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Seriously what the FUCK was her problem?
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>>84271725
daring
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>>84287972
she was hot in flashbacks
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>>84288551
we need a prequel with hot young livia
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>>84270125
why couldnt they get the guns right, /tv/?
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>>84288867
because they're all from jersey and new york
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>>84288867
>>84289052
the staff I mean
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>>84270137
To be fair the sopranos is actually really hard to follow because of all the Italian names and words
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>>84289195
????????????????? like what??????????
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>>84289195
AYYYY CAN'T HANDLE DA GABAGOOL, STUPID MEDIGAN!?? YOU'RE GIVIN ME AGITA, MEDIGAN.
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>>84270137
Because Breaking Bad has plot twists and cliffhangers every episode and people mistake that for good writing. Also Breaking Bad was cemented by netflix and the binge watching. Sopranos are too complicated for people who just want to see bang bang. One of my friends even complained that none of the mobsters are slick,cool guys who drive ferraris. Some people just want escapism and Sopranos is too real.
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Why do I feel sorry for him?
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>>84289581
Because you're not a sociopath, everyone feels sorry for Chrissy.
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>>84287904
That makes sense. Although in Eugene's inheritance case, I don't think he was obligated to kick part of that up to Tony. I think he did that more out of a gesture of good will because he wanted T to let him "retire." I'd imagine a few types of income that are basically completely unrelated to the org, such as inheritance, don't have to get taxed by the boss.
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>>84271848
There's a lot of filler shit on the sopranos like when Ade was managing that shit band.
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>>84287198
Watch it Coop.
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Vito is a terrible character
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>>84289581
Because he was born into this life and used like a tool by Tony
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>>84289734
Whataya do, whataya say?!
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>>84289734
How did that fat fuck score a 9/10 husbando like Johnny Cakes??
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someone post the >be tony greentext please
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Why was Melfi so proud of herself for not siccing Tony on her rapist?
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>>84273083
The only one who actually spoke Italian was Junior.
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>>84289581
Because he's a soldier, Adriana. When are you gonna understand that?!
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>>84285319
the hells wrong wit you? you look like a porta reekan whoo-ah. make me sick.
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>>84289957
Goddamn it you've made me angry. I remember that and I always held out hope she would. Fuck did they drop that arc out of no where
>>84289982
And he dies. Thematic.
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>>84273083
The show was a light commentary on how hypocritical some italians are (And races in general.) when it comes to nationalistic pride. All of the sopranos mob being idiots to italians but fighting tooth and nail for colombus, the black guy fighting for black work right but taking money under the table.
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>>84273625
this liking the wire is a sure sign you're a redditor and should result in a ban
>>
>>84290079
it's normal to use foreign words without knowing the language, here in germany some turkish arabic eastern european etc words are commonly used

>inb4 pol jokes
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>>84286356
Theres an episode where he explicitly says he could never see himself as the boss. It was Tonys coma that forced him to be acting boss,
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Who was in the wrong?
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>>84271848
>Skipping the dream scenes
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>>84290534

There was $1200 bucks in there
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>tfw rewatching now
>tfw season 2 finale
pure goddamn kino
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>>84289734
How? His aspirations, motives, and lifestyle drove the plot and characterization of others a lot in later seasons, to great effect.

He's a bad person, but not a bad character as far as his contribution to the show. Do you just hate the gay arc?
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>>84290255
>pol jokes
Highlighting the destruction of a once great people is more like commentary than a joke, Hans.
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>>84291337
Where do you watch it? I've never watched this show but I want to get into it. Unless you have the dvd.
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>>84291738
Where would one watch one of HBO's most famous shows, I wonder
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>>84291738
my moms hbo go subscription Tbh
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>>84289957

Because she was opposed to everything Tony's way of life represented in principle and would be a hypocrite for using it to enact revenge?
>>
>>84289957
>>84290034
melfi is a moral compass, chase loved messing with plebs like you who want everything tied up in a neat little bow and le badass revenge scenes
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>>84290534
To be fair they warned him to fuck off before he got hurt, and he didn't.
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>>84291738
Torrented shit quality version then watched it on Amazon Prime like 3 times in good quality
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King of cucks
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>>84293365
was the entire background lazily greenscreened in on this scene?
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>>84284827
>>84286356
>>84290405
https://youtu.be/0glt2VBlXdw

Sil wasn't boss material, he couldn't even handle a small conflict with Bobby and Vito
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>>84287972

terminal lung cancer
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>>84292799
>ywn rub Charmaine's muzzle
why live
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Does this show get better or change at all? I didnt really like the first episode much.
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>>84293832
The first episode is easily one of the weakest, get to the episode "College" and you'll be hooked
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Childhood is Idolizing Paulie

Adulthood is realizing Lil Carmine was /ourguy/ all along
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> IQ of 158

>Chimps out multiple times starting war with NY
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>>84287972

there was something wrong with her head after awhile
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>>84294044
He was the best strategist by far
>>
>>84294468
the versailles story he told tony was pretty smart but he looked at him like he's an idiot
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>>84294618
That was all part of his gambit IMO. He played dumb and everyone underestimated him for it, and he came out on top
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>>84271848
ya want a fuckin smack in the mouth?
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>>84293832
Tony a cute.
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was the Melfi shower dream sequence in one of the first episodes really her nude body?


also fuck I think this show made me develop an overly Italian woman fetish.

what is dating an Italian girl like?

Also are there any good Italian American pornstars?
>>
>>84298023
On one hand, Italians are subhuman, on another, they are spicy sex people. It's like Carmella vs. Janice
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>>84270125
A song for OP:

https://youtu.be/WtBy0AwZYOw
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>>84286849
>Pauline
>Silvia

Are you having a stroke?
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>>84294025
>The first episode is easily one of the weakest

What? The pilot is fucking amazing and very highly-budgeted compared to most other episodes (for obvious reasons)
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>>84294138

Buncha good it did me
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>>84286849
I hate phone posters so fucking much
>>
>>84270137
>It blows your mind that some people are dumb

Really?
>>
>>84276774
>>84280741

Perfect.

Did you set that up for yourself?
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>>84270125
i would make a joke about the series ending, but the entire series is a joke. no one liked this fucking garbage,
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>>84288592
>The lady likes her meat

What did he mean by this?
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>>84289581
I can feel sorry for a lot of the characters and then they turn around and do something despicable.

Killing J.T. was irredeemable. Lost all sympathy for him after that.
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>>84301331
Haha epic, mind if I screencap this?
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>>84275930
>that's not judy!

Could it be?
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>It's a Carmela wants to cheat episode

wew la, so is this a recurring theme? First with the priest, then with the italian guy?
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>>84302114
and furio of course
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>>84289957
he has to go back
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>>84302208
UP IN DA CLUB
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>>84274740
expresso
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>>84270125
Its another, George 'the stupid bartender on the sopranos' Santorelli gets beat up again for some saying something stupid to Tony.

>'Tony, its for you, something about if your fridge is running'
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>>84270163
OOOOOOOOOOOHHHH
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>>84285319
suck our cocks?
>>
The Sopranos will always be king as far as I'm concerned, but here's my tier list. And tell me yours.

1) The Sopranos
2) The Shield
3) True Detective season one
4) The Wire
5) Breaking Bad
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>>84302208
Give me one thousan dollars
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>>84276376
What's the name of the documentary? I'd like to watch it.
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>>84289734
My arch nemesis.
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>>84289982
Junior doesn't die.
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>>84293526
Don't see why it'd have to be. They filmed several scenes at the construction site.
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>>84272104
Are you fucking serious right now? Matthew "drinkwater" Bevilaqua was killed for shooting Chrissy. Go rewatch the series.
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>>84304945
Definitely not a bad list, I just can't include True Detective off of one great season and one unbelievably disappointing one

>1. The Sopranos
>2. The Wire
>3. Deadwood
>4. Mad Men
>5. Justified

I know that Justified selection might get some head scratches but I love it more than BrBa or The Shield and they're the only ones close
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>>84305296
I understand what you mean. Including one season might've been cheating on my part. Loved Deadwood. Never saw Mad Men or Justified. I plan on rectifying that soon.
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>>84284222
trips don't lie
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>>84305363
I would recommend Mad Men over Justified. In fact Mad Men almost beats out Deadwood simply because it has twice as many seasons
>>
>>84305363
>>84306076
Fanooks
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>>84284827
>doesn't completely lose his temper and go insane at the drop of a hat like everyone else
sweep some cheese from under his feet and come back to me
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>>84298364
what kind of disgusting fuck would choose janice over carm??
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>>84291843
So to maintain her moral high ground she lets a violent rapist go free.
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>>84306816
>he doesn't want a chubby italian to make him her bitch
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>>84289195
>Tony
>AJ
>Meadow
>Pussy
>Johnny
>Junior
>Paulie
>Chrissie

Woah... really makes ya think
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>>84306868
yes
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Is a scene like this in broad daylight considered realistic?

the one where he gets the guy to fill the box while shooting up the place multiple times then finally shooting him in the foot.

would Chrissy really be able to go about his day without cops being on his tail shortly
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gabagool?!
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>>84272260
They definitely wrote it as the series went along. A general overarching theme or vision? Absolutely, any creator that is halfway decent can manage that much, but you're really narrowing how vague and encompassing a "theme" can be. The show is, mostly, a show about family elements. This is really the only true overarching theme throughout, imho. But that's it. I mean sure, there are tie ins and call backs and all that, but that's just result of capable talent. I mean, the actress for Livia dies before season 3 could be written. How damaging could an integral character's absence have been to Chase's story if he had some sort of outline from the beginning? Probably unobjectionably damning. So my answer is yes, David Chase had a clear vision of the show, but no way did he have anything more than "family life (s) of complex mob boss". He probably had good scenarios or plot points, that is probably the greatest extent of initial draft
>>
What does the actress who played young Janice look like now?
>>
anyone else think janice is an underrated character? I get why you'd hate her, but she at least tries to improve herself. she also has an important role in the series, she shows what happens to a female with the same upbringing as tony and the sibling relationship is great to see too
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>>84284827
He was numbah 2
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>>84289957
Having the power to have that guy's head chopped off and stuffed in a suitcase was enough for her to cope with the trauma.
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>>84312196

her me is Madeline blue.

she never really made it as an actress cos Hollywood is racist against Italians and could easily hire Jews to fill the roles of italians
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>>84312674

>that beak

You SURE she ain't a jew?
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>>84312712
It's hard to tell with Italians.
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>>84312739

Regardless, I'd beat up her spaghetti and meatballs
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>>84285761
Aye, Sopranos fans are pretty hostile. In every thread they try to shit on Breaking Bad or The Wire.
>>
>>84287308
> all those angry responses with not a single argument defending the family or dream sequences

really hit a spot there, didnt I?
>>
>>84274511
[regarding Eugene] "I knew him better than anybody but still... Maybe he was a homo, felt there was no one he could talk to about it. That happens, too..."
>>
>>84274511
yeah, finn caught him sucking a cock once
>>
>>84287478
Its true, Sopranos touches on more universal, human issues, but the problem is that many of them arent all that interesting or have been explored to death in other shows. So Tony has an annoying mother and selfish whining children. This angle has been shown so many times, its hard to find something interesting there. Or take carmelas plotline. Shes alone and gets jealous over Tonys infidelity. Thats a fine plotline for a season but at some point it gets repititive. What makes Tony so compelling is that he has all these different problems that bring excitement. Useless nephew, upset wife, power struggles within the ranks, New York, rats etc.
>>
>>84313038
but that was after he was revealed as being gay
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>>84313055
there was that scene where Vito was touching Finn's arm in the hospital which was gay too
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>>84289195
Holy pleb.
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FUGGIN SMOGED TOIKEY
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>>84289581
Cause he must be loyle to his capo
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>>84291793
>>84291807
>>84292754
>Streaming
>Quality
Pick 1

>>84291738
You DL the BD
>>
>>84290534
The waiter. He should have taken his medicine.
>>
Why was Ralph obsessed with Gladiator?
Was it autism?
>>
>>84313950
I agree that the blu-ray is the way to go for a show like this, but I have to think the rips on public trackers are worse quality than Amazon Video. Sorted by size the biggest torrent on TPB for all six seasons is under 90GB with no bitrate information. Contrast this to Amazon which gives about 7-9 mbps and you've got an increase of quality (assumption, because like I said the torrent has no bitrate info). That's obviously just one public tracker. Privates will have a better quality, but most guys don't use them. I Suspect for most it's easier to just stream from Amazon.

What I think is the best way, and also what I did, is to rip the blu-ray to raw mkv and encode at a high bitrate. For The Sopranos and most blu-rays I'll use 15000 mbps.
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>>84289581
He was the new generation.
He wanted to be a an actor, screenwriter, etc. But because he'd been raised to always respond with confrontation and violence, he was always just seen as another dirty italian gangster.
Think of it like a black guy coming out of the hood, but he's to stuck in his old ways to progress in a civil society.
I think there was one episode where he ran into his agent's(?) house because he was mad, and fucking beat his ass in front of his wife. That's not the kind of person that can move up in the world
>>
hello friends just finished season 2, i haven't watched it before. inb4 spoilers up my ass

is livia going to kick the bucket soon? god she's a fucking cunt. i miss pussy.
>>
>>84315813
>inb4 spoilers up my ass
>asks for spoilers
You need to leave this thread and come back when you finish the show.
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>>84315857
commendatori :^)
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>>84315813
You will literally never see her after S2.
She died IRL. Good fucking riddance
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>>84306692
kek
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What was his problem bros
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>>84315925
run out of gabagool
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>>84309255
also in this scene I remember the actor who plays vito is a passerby. I really don't get it. Am I misremembering? Is chase messing with my pleb mind?
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>>84315958
Gino was just some random extra that they turned into a longstanding character by changing his name. Definitely not the same character as Vito, though obviously played by the same actor.
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>>84315691
gladiators were the greatest itialian soldiers in history. Patriotism, national pride whatever you wanna call it, bud.
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>>84272034
>"My bottom line was impacted!"

>"I know Vito's bottom was impacted."
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>>84315786
What are you even talking about? You mean when Tony goes over to zellners place?
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>>84270125
CARMELLA WILL YOU GABA THE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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>>84287471
>season 1
pleb detected
>>
GABAGOOL?
OVER HERE
>>
>>84315925
He's a faaaaaaaaaag
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FUCKIN' QUEERS!
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>>84287071
>pulp free

If you're gonna meme, at least know what the meme really is, pleb.
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who else felt sorry for junior when tony was making jokes about him performing cunnilingus on the golf course?
>>
>>84316459
I thought you were a baccalĂ  man, Uncle Jun. What are you doin' eatin' sushi?
>>
>>84316459
Didn't June start making jokes about Tony tho?
>>
>>84316592
tony went too far
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>>84294044
He was capable to overcome some of Tony's worst flaws by not being a self centered sociopath who needs everything to be about himself, though. At the end he learns of his limitations and is contempt with his place in the world. Undoubtedly he was an idiot and the laughing stock of his family, but at the very end he is at peace, and Tony isn't.
>>
>>84293832
Fist episode is probably the worst, it's so off when compared to the rest of the series that it makes me think Chase made it like that so it would seem like a more "conventional" show and get greenlit by the HBO executives.
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>>84315925
wished he was a real italian and resented anybody who was
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>>84313487
VA FANGOOL
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>>84316624
Not far enough. He never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
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>>84317039
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>>84316785
it's because it's a pilot, chase didn't knew where he wants to go with the show yet
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