Oliver is finished!

>>84206941
That's bad. I wish that cuck went down in flames on his own, not because of feefees of some faggot CEO.

>>84206941
he's safe. HBO has the biggest Jew lawyers in the business.

Was he actually slandered/defamed? I didn't watch it. I hate John Oliver but suing someone because they can't handle the bantz is shit tier.

>>84206941
Coal has a CEO?

It'll get dismissed as a frivolous lawsuit.

This dumb CEO is just drawing attention to himself and to how accurate John Oliver's criticism of him must've been for him to take it this seriously.

HBO’s lawyers would have gone all over that fucking script. They wouldn’t have green lit it if they felt that it was going to end poorly for them. This CEO dickhead apparently has a reputation for suing people for defamation if they criticise him even a little bit, so this here is likely going to end with the courts being sick of his shit.

John Oliver is my fucking hero along with Samantha Bee and Jon Stewart, why do you faggots hate him so much?

>>84207017
>Samantha Bee
Just no. Shit tier bait.

>>84207001
Thats bullshit Oliver can just say shit thats wrong and if you do anything youre prooving him wrong? Some meat processing plant in the US is sueing a news channel for calling their product "pink slime" which it isn't and does not look like, they had to close because of people boycotting.

>>84207017
4/10 Made me reply. It's subtle but not nearly subtle enough.

Also don't lump Jon Stewart in with them, he's a lefty but he's not a leftist

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>filing a defamation suit against a comedian on a satirical news program

They predicted they would get sued. They outweighed how much it would probably cost them vs how much publicity it would give them and how much stronger their arguments would get.

Literally no one should be surprised about this.

>>84206995
Not in any actual legal standpoint. Angry millionaire is mad that he's so easily called out in his crap and is told to eat shit. He thinks he can make them apologize and take back why they said to a company that hired 160 lawyers on retainer in anticipation of backlash from Scientology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw6RsUhw1Q8


Here's a lawyer reading & reviewing the suit filed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns71Z8RoVn0

>all the fags who throw the word "cuck" at anyone they don't agree with are conspicuously silent when some pussy spergs out when he can't handle the bantz

lmao

>>84207100
>it's just a PRANK bro

>>84207017
Most lefties have already turned on Bee since she's a centre-right liberal who is actively trying to stop her kid's school from admitting any blacks or poors

>>84207099
Jon (you don't own anything) Stewart was the mother load of these people, of course you can lump them together and I say this as a former leftist light viewer of his.

>>84207147
what if big coal teams up with scientology?

>>84207164
Literally no one is supporting that CEO but ok.

>>84207100
>implying he's a comedian and not a post comedy left wing activist

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>>84207017

Why are you so racist?

I really dislike Olivers lowest common denominator kind of humor, but I do appreciate that he talks about politically important issues and tries to explain them to dumb people

>>84207100
Is it comedy when theres no jokes and its not funny?

BUT IT'S CURRENT YEAR

Is Jim Jeffries as big of a chuck as he seems in the commercials?

>>84206941
This invalidates everything he said.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/10/new-coal-mine-donald-trump-pennsylvania-fossil-fuels-regulations
>First New Coal Mine of Trump Era Opens in Pennsylvania

>>84207258
wow, trump created 70 new jobs

>>84207279
by snuffing thousands of jobs in environmental science and renewable energy

>>84207279
>Has Donald Trump overseen a gain of 500,000 jobs so far?
>Half true by Politifact

>>84207175
I used to watch him when he was on Comedy Central and while I admit I haven't seen anything he's done particularly recently he's never been nearly as bad as the John Oliver, Samantha Bee crowd.

Unless he made a radical shift in tone and beliefs lately I'm not sure it's fair to lump him in with they

It's current year

>>84207296
>environment
>job

>>84207212
Agreed. I think a lot of the arguments his show put forth are sound, even though they're pretty light on details, explanation, and support. I really don't like his humor, but I find his show to be something I use as a springboard to a better understanding of issues I normally don't give a shit about.

I really hate leftist "activists," but pretty much agree with most of their shit. Just nothing too crazy, like niggers are some kind of benevolent, innocent group who go to church and never break the law.

>>84206969
>That's bad. I wish that cuck went down in flames on his own, not because of feefees of some faggot CEO
Yeah, his bed of money was going to miraculously catch fire and kill him. Get real faggot unless shit like this happens it's business as usual

>>84207296
is it literally impossible for a group of people to work in the coal industry and in the wind industry at the same time?

>>84207347
you think ground water cleans itself?

>>84207355
His bed of money is useless without popularity.
He either becomes a martyr or goes down naturally.

>>84207361
When you cut funding from one and funnel it into the other, yes it is.

>>84207296
There are very few jobs in environmental science and renewable energy...in fact, for every one job it created, it killed off another 10...

>>84207371
if renewable energy is so good why arent private companies spending a lot of money into it? why should the government have tax dollars go into the enviromental sector when it is so good?

>>84207365
Ebil Drumpf banned water cleaning?

>>84207099
It's not subtle you're just a retard newfag

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>>84207100
If it's a comedy program why did he accept a journalism award?
If he snubbed a Pulitzer it'd be clear he was a comedy program and not a journalist.

>>84207406
because you need some basic research first, before renewable energy becomes economically viable.

>>84207416
he cut EPA budget

>>84207406
>why arent private companies spending a lot of money into it
They are, just not on a large enough scale to move us away from fossil fuels before a crisis point.

And there's zero reason for the taxpayer to subsidise coal, it's an industry with few jobs because of mechanization and it causes damage the government has to pay to repair.
Publically funding coal production is just subsidising wages/profit margins for an industry we don't need.

Also subsidising otherwise failing jobs is a really leftwing stance, I'm surprised Trump supporters are so in favour of it.

>>84207406

To even the playing field when the more damaging industries already control the market and political environment by pouring millions more into their lobby as well as creating a strong reliance on their outdated technologies and double edged services.

>>84207441
so why arent private companies spending money into that research funding if renewable energy is amazing that everyone on the left says it is?
its a guaranteed bet isnt it?

>>84207456
time to make bank @ private sector!

>>84207371
What funding did Trump give to Coal plants? As far as I understood he just cut their regulations and tax burden, its still their own money they are earning

>>84206996
Dr. Pavel, I'm Coal

>>84207391
No nation has ever prospered by technological regression. I'm sure when automobiles were invented, all the carriage driver's jobs got killed

but there's a reason you're not riding a pony cart to school today

>>84207465
because investors need quick profits

>>84207465
Private companies always work in the extreme short term

They need profit now not later

>>84207456
yup, so enjoy the toxic water, cuz when you get cancer, your health care's gonna suck too!

>>84207481
Cutting tax is funding just at the point of exit instead of entry

Either way the government gives up money it would otherwise have had and said money ends up in the hand of the business

>>84207465
because it takes a lot of time and huge investment until renewable energy becomes competative.
Private companies exist in a highly competative enviroment and have to make profit every year, they can't afford to invest into something that might pay off in 20 years

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>>84207296
Were those jobs who's value was determined by the free market or government handouts creating those jobs. Because if it's the latter you can just make it up yourself by going around town with a bucket collecting money to send a local college student to go into the prairies and mess with windmills. And it will be better than taxes because if one of your neighbors Doesn't want to pay for it, his door won't be kicked down where he is threatened by guns unless he pays up, you can just move to the next house instead

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>>84207522
But it's not. Because it's money that company earned. The government isn't entitled to tax revenue as it's a result of armed coercion. The coal company is entitled to its profits because they are a result of consensual monetary transactions. Handshakes not handgrenades.

>>84207543
free market wouldn't work without what you call "government handouts"

>>84207624
lol

>>84207465
Researching new antibiotics are also a "sure thing" but nobody wants to do it because the cost today is immense.

I'd actually bet that only the pharmaceuticals are holding off until the world is so fucking desperate to have new antibiotics that the world governments would pay any amount of money to get the research done and done quickly, which would sufficiently cover the research costs in addition to the fact they would have to give up the formulation immediate for the public good. And it's going to be morbidly funny when you can't do basic procedures like cesarean sections or people dying from scraped knees due to antibiotics resilience and the people are going to blame the government for not shelling out trillions of dollars to pharmaceutical research firms who are essentially holding their scientific capabilities hostage.

Why invest all the money today doing the research when nobody is going to pay you enough for it, especially when the first few years of research are going to yield no results.

>>84207170
>>84207208
http://www.snopes.com/samantha-bees-husband-school/

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>>84207633

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>>84207624
You're right
Government "handouts" in the form of judges, yes actually. Because the market doesn't work without an enforcement method against fraud or coercion, and having judges paid by the state as opposed to a judge who is swayed by cash plays an important market function

>>84207698
>my first anti-libertarian argument
What's next, roads?

>>84207696
Yeah they actively campaigned with the other parents to keep the schools segregated

Snopes doesn't disprove that

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>>84207493
You really think technology is what's important?

>>84207716
>corruption doesn't exist when the judges are paid by the state

>>84207614
The government needs to forcibly nationalize more industries. Clearly short term profit focus has driven humanity to disaster, only a clear, strong guiding hand executed by the state can steer us back onto the right course.

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Republicans will move to Somalia if Liberals move to the socialist utopia of Venezuela.

>>84207056
Oliver can legally say what he wants, and he does. He criticises what, a dozen different people each night? And how many of them try to sue him for it?

Suing him is just drawing attention to yourself and to the criticism and it implies whether truthful or not that the criticism must've been pretty accurate for you to want to silence it.

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>>84207778
Call us when you get a decent phone, teddy.

Is the American comedy scene so devoid of talent that any third rate British comic can just waltz in and land a show?

>>84207791
That's the opposite of what it needs to do. Government owned businesses cannot fail, because the government prints money. Government is slow and unable to innovate. When was the last time you saw an innovation come out of the DMV? The difference between government business and private business is the difference between getting an Uber and going to the DMV.

>>84207296
I have a bs in bio and worked in the field.
Then again mt neet-ness is my own fault, not that idiot's.

>>84207100
That's a really weak excuse.

Everyone knows these shows are just news pundit shows with no obligation to issue retractions since they are 'comedic'.

Pls fire

>>84207456
I'm surprised that the EPA counts under discretionary spending. How the fuck can you just cut their funding like that when their services exists to proportionally serve the people. The number of people are not going fucking down; cutting their funding to reduce services to the people? I mean what the fuck.

I don't get it. If I were to try and line the pockets of my corporate friends, I wouldn't fucking cut government services like that; it's like a state saying, "we need to shrink the office that maintains our roads" - who the fuck thinks that America is getting less roads; likewise America isn't exactly using less water or breathing less air.

>>84207791
Profit is the only real motivator that would coerce companies to do research into something.
Governments nowadays really only want to stay in power and will make claims of increasing spending to a certain topic (renewable energy, higher taxes for the rich, schools, healthcare) and then not do anything about it and ask for reelection and will do it next time they are in power. Private companies can do the research and find that there is profit to be made.

>>84206941
I doubt it, you know any big media company has a team of top-of-their-field lawyers on retainer for shit like this, right?

He'll be fine. If anything, this will be a boost to his ratings. And it's a strategic misstep by the coal company.

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>>84207789
Its not that corruption doesn't exist, it's just less prevalent.
http://www.kentlaw.edu/ilw/erepj/abstracts/v1n1/Bingham.html
Private arbitration has the "repeat player affect" where if you keep getting business from one side you're statistically more likely to rule in their favor to continue getting their business

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We've got plenty more shitty comedians to get rid of that can take his place.

>fuck cheap energy for the poor, am I right

>>84207369
If his only worshipers are libshits, and they are, then nothing of value was lost. Martyrdom won't do a damned thing.

>>84207734
funny you can't refute even such basic arguments
this shows the flaws the whole libertarian ideology pretty well

>>84207312
Not as bad because he cares about 9/11 workers, who support Trump and he at least has to give them benefit of the doubt. He's sympathetic and sentimental and he thinks the left is the sole catalyst for that, so he's forced to walk down the ivory tower which prevents him from going off the deep end. I used to watch him a lot, before I understood politics and thought being left wing made you a good person and not just having good intentions. Which I learned most people do but I can't find myself agreeing with him any more but I nevertheless still respect him.

>>84207845
when was the last time you saw an innovation come out of NASA?
Oh wait, all the time

>>84207948
Coal isn't cheap.

>>84207869
Look at what the EPA did using the Clean Water Act. It intentionally misconstrued a statute interpretingbodies of water as anything as small as a puddle. It used this to tell people they could not use their land. And unlike in the case of eminent domain there was no financial compensation. Its the EPA saying you can't use your land and even though we made your land useless through saying you cant use it we won't compensate you.
Why wouldn't you cut their funding?

>>84207906
I don't think that can be claimed when private mediation and arbitration is getting huge right now. No one wants to deal with messy, public, expensive trials. It's half the reason the settling rate has been rising for years now.

>>84207958
You ignored it.
>>84207803

>>84206995
No, all they did was recount actual events using already reported and published news articles. Its just publicity.

>>84207100
Funnily enough in suit they claim that because time warner donated and supported Hillary. That this is part of an attack against Trump aimed Murray and coal

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>>84207983
Who is the DMV competing with? No one
Who is NASA competing with? JAXA, Russia's space program China's space program, even India's space program
NASA's a military offshoots. That's the one thing governments are good at. Military spending, because it's the only nationalized industry that actually has to compete

>>84208005
i am not bernie sanders
why are you using him as a strawman ?

>>84207995
Just because arbitration is popular right now doesn't mean that it doesn't have a major problem.
Tinder is popular too and it has massive problems

>>84207805
>whether truthful or not that the criticism must've been pretty accurate
ESL?

>>84207948
renewable energy like solar and wind has become cheaper than coal. Coal is dying fast and hard for a reason and why every government on the global is now turning to it instead of coal. "Good for the environment" is just bonus to make them look good.

>>84208073
He's the leading American Liberal speaker? Who else should I have brought up? I can't go through your past comments you're anonymous, I'm going through major Liberal speakers as a stand in

>>84206969
Even if he did, the liberals would have excused his slip ups because he's another generic voice that appeals to their worldview.

>>84208078
The point being made is that a public arbitration system becomes ineffective when people find other sources of cheaper, quicker, neutral arbitration.
It's entirely possible to privatize mediation and arbitration with great success, just as we're seeing that shift now.

>>84208053
what about CERN?
is it a military offshoot aswell?

>>84208115
>Who else should I have brought up?
nobody. just explain why free market didnt fix somalia

>>84208114
If solar is cheaper then why is the government even bothering to cut regulations on coal?
Theoretically it should be more expensive even without regulation, at which point the plants would stop running. Why are they still running? People are buying their power instead of buying power from local solar panels

>>84207361
when minning is getting automated that you need only 7 people for a single mine? yes

>>84207208
>>84207170
wtf i love samantha bee now

>>84208156
See
>>84207716
Lack of courts to prevent coercion or fraud

>>84207855
You're wrong.

Journalists and news organizations have no legal obligation to issue retractions for false or poor reporting or revisit their previous work - in that way news organizations are no different than comedy shows, talk radio, talk shows, anything. However, news organizations' credibility rests on their honesty and transparency and it's good ethical practice to ensure what is said is correct.

Can journalists, news organizations, and comedy shows still be sued for defamation? Of course. A timely retraction backed up by journalistic research (which every credible news organization has) and "genuine" shows of a "honest mistake" will kill any defamation lawsuit as such protections exist to protect the media from frivolous bullshit like this.

So, the question is, did he say anything that was actually wrong?

I don't know if he said anything that was not true. However, the burden of proof is going to be on the plaintiff to prove that anything Oliver said is untrue - and simply saying he ignored certain facts is not a just cause to sue a guy.

Because that's what defamation is, saying false shit about a guy. There is no actual way to sue someone for calling you a "geriatric Dr. Evil" because hilariously none of those words are specific enough; there is no legal language that protects anybody from the things that were said not to mention there is a 100% chance it's going to be backed up by research.

Oliver would actually have to say something highly specific like "he has sex with cats and strangles them afterwards" and stack the statement with "I have proof of it", fail to retract, and THEN fail to produce proof. It takes an epic level of fuck-ups to get sued for defamation; and there's no way Oliver and the HBO people are not prepared for it.

>>84207986
What is zoning laws. Goverments already prevent the misuse of lands. Otherwise somebody could just but the land along the headwaters of a river and cut everybody else off from accessing that river. It is the same rationale.

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At last my brothers. We did it, /pol/!

Coal is a Masculine and White energy source, anyone like this cuck who speaks out against it publicly should be Sued and Locked Up!

>>84208140
What has come out of CERN? I haven't seen anything new come out of it.
NASA had massive amounts of stuff, innovation in air conditioning Velcro stuff like that. Haven't seen anything come out of CERN

>>84207100
It's news for retards

>just joking bro

DEFAME THE COAL
PAY THE TOLL

>>84208187
so we agree that free market is reliant on "government handouts"?

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>>84207212
>>84207349
>Neo-/tv/ are starting to like le epic political "comedians"
Underages need to be automatically directed to /b/

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>>84206941
Daaammmmmit !!!

John Oliver deserves a bullet.

>>84208221
discovery of higgs-boson
world wide web

>>84208221
http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/29328

What the fuck? I love coal now!

>>84208214
The Clean Water Act says that the EPA can regulate navigable waters, meaning waters that truly affect interstate commerce. But a few years ago, the EPA decided that navigable waters can mean nearly every puddle or every ditch on a farmer's land, or any place else that they decide
We aren't talking about cutting off rivers we are talking about ditches

>>84208221
https://home.cern/about/updates/2016/08/cern-featured-leader-global-innovation-index

>>84207803
I'll go to Chile

Socialist government, nice temperature and pisco

Durrr I want my energy to be really expensive lmao

>>84208161
>If solar is cheaper then why is the government even bothering to cut regulations on coal?
Because it's a purely tactical move to get votes in the coal regions

>>84208271
Dumping waste into those bodies can get into the ground water just as easily if it was dumped in a river.

Also farmer frequently fuck with ground water a lot. They need a hammering. They already get subsides up the ass anyway. So Fuck them

>>84206941
>Bob murray wikipedia page is unprotected

kek. That's going to be semi-protected in a few hours.

>>84208237
We could come up with a way to replace judges handouts with private funding from the state we are in now. Somalia cannot because it has not developed to the point it can afford private judges. Too low productivity

>>84208092
I know you're dumb/autistic because you post on here and you don't like John Oliver so you're probably a Trump supporter but aggressively trying to silence criticism just makes you look self-conscious it, which makes it look true.

>>84208251
So the Higgs boson exists. What can I do with it? Does it power a new type of car battery or something?

>>84207100
>most americans get their news from comedians
>comedians get called out for peddling fake news
>IT'S JUST COMEDY BRO
That's the entire reason why "news" are dominated by comedians. They can get away with lying by saying LUL IT'S A PRANK!!

>>84208286
Durr I want to have poisinous rivers

>>84208337
So you are the type of retard that thinks all theoretical physics is useless. It can and will be used later. Maybe it doesn't give a immediate short term benefit, but every addition to Humanity scientific knowledge is good.

>>84208272
The CERN director joined their committee. That's not showing me what they have made. What are their innovations? Show me their innovations instead of telling me they are innovative

>>84208316
judgement is worth shit if it isnt enforced by power
only government has the power to enforce it

>>84208343
Ignoring all the right wing media which is constantly lying. So much so that Fox had stop calling itself news and instead entertainment.

>>84208365
Durr I want to continue mining rare earth minerals to make my solar panels and lithium batteries but I also want to pat myself on the back for pretending to try

>>84208161
What is lobbying.
The US government creates the penny at a net loss and the majority of Americans agree that it should just be phased out. But it's just a big coincidence that the only group defending to keep the penny is the company that makes the zinc blanks to sell the government and they spend millions in lobbying to keep it in circulation.

>>84207986
That's not what I'm saying. I have no doubts that every government organization dogfucks some amount of money; including ones that maintain roads.

What I'm saying is that you simply dictate how the money is spent; because there are certainly useful things that could be done. You don't fucking cut their spending you change how they spend it because you can do that.

If cut funding to every organization that fucked around with money then you'd have no goddamn services left. The EPA is capable of doing good work; no different than the military is capable of doing good work or the department of education. They all waste money but they can be directed to spend it better.

Only a dumb motherfucker would cut EPA spending; just like cutting parks spending. Even if I lean on cutting military spending I would be willing to accept that there's probably a better way of spending the money the military already gets. Blatantly exclaiming to cut spending in this manner having clearly done research to justify the cuts is just saying, "I don't want to think of solutions so I'm going to cut the lifeline and let them swim."

>>84208416
ooo dat projection.

>>84208416
>sources familiar with this anons thinking are asking what did he mean by this?

>>84208431
Durr I think solar energy is anywhere near as ecologically damaging as fossil fuels

>>84208379
I'm just asking the practical purpose. If a private university wants to put funding into discovering this stuff I'm all for it, but if there's government funding it should have practical applications set out from the start or you end up with shit like this
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/13/golden-hammer-government-spent-800000-studying-dat/
Spending 800,000$ trying to figure out why fat girls can't get dates

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>>84208456
>he doesn't know what rare earth metal mining and refining fucking does

>>84208325
Instead of launching ad hominems, mind explaining what you mean by "accurate" there if accuracy is irrelevant? Did you mean that Oliver thought he was lying, but he was accidentally correct?

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>>84208436
The penny is at a net loss
But there's 98$ of profit on every 100$ bill the government prints
So we should print off a billion 100$ bills. Then the government won't have to worry about collecting taxes. Because it's important how much profit or loss the government gets from making money.

>>84208449
>doesn't know what projection is
that's literally what happened, retard

>>84208454
Sources familiar with the situation are telling other sources that the source of this is Russian and There's collision

>>84206996
Uhhhh white ppl
Go to school and learn not go and shoot others faggot

>>84208456
Durr I want to save the planet but wont acknowledge the only viable option (nuclear) to do so and instead recommend we pump billions of federal dollars into subsidising green energy which still can't compete with the output of fossil fuels no matter how much it's shilled.

>>84207355

t. triggered rightwing snowflake

sorry your liberal parents didn't give you enough attention

>>84208315
>all those recent edits
>Murray, a disheveled investor at ruin's end (due to socio-economic and social-political reasons), recently stated in a check-up with his doctor, "Why does the itzakadoozie melt when it's used for my colonoscopy? Riddle me that with your fancy science talk." And, that is how Murray's firm stance against climate change was deeply entrenched within an aging man's ego - hellbent on slowing evolution and progress for all else.

>>84208458
so, for example, if you lived 200 years ago and you were the government guy responsible for funding research into electromagnetism, you would decide not to fund because it has no real world application?

>>84208516
We can do nothing but speculate at this point but one thing is clear this anon is a high level KGB sleeper agent.

>>84208446
Because you don't see the EPA as what it is used as. A protectionist tool used by big business to shut down competitors and upstarts
https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/regulation-industry/of-course-big-business-loves-regulation

>>84208431
Yeah I'm sure you're concern for the environment is totally genuine

>>84208541
Is this a trick question?
There was no federal science endowment at the time.

>>84208541
But to humour you, yes I would be against it. The government didn't fund it. At best they subsidized universities who spent some of their money on sciences

>>84208575
What concern?

>>84208092
>libtards literally think the truth of their statements is unimportant because they're subjectively "accurate"

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>people actually tried to argue the fact that it's a comedy program because they're salty Jon is protected by then first amendment

Its like you hate the constitution.

Good thing he is not making fun of trump
If he did trump would have kicked him outta the country
MAGA

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>>84208636
It's more of a feeling.

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>>84208534
>all these retarded liberals

>>84208647
If you can get in legal trouble for "misgendering" then the first amendment is dead anyway.

>b-but you need to constrain yourself by the hypothetical rules of your ideal society even though your enemies blatantly flaunt them
no, kys

>>84208647
The problem is he uses "oh it's comedy" as a shield against criticism but accepts praise when it's showered upon his journalistic ability. You can't get it both ways.
Its like how Jews are simultaneously an ethnicity and a religion and they switch based off of which is more convenient when it comes to an argument.

>>84206941
Dumb people being his largest viewer base

>>84207437
This.
Accepting a Pulitzer, means he qualifies a a journalist and is subject to journalistic standards and ethics.

in b4
>journalistic standards and ethics.

>>84208488
I'm sure whatever Oliver said was correct. The stuff he comments on is usually documented in the news or researched by his team. He then provides evidence of what he's commenting on. I'd trust his show a lot more than any of the anonymous morons on here trying to malign people they disagree with.

But the actual claim or its truthfulness doesn't matter. My point was that the CEO is a fucking idiot for drawing attention to it, and that as a general rule being hypersensitive to a specific criticism just makes it look true. But maybe you're too arrogant to acknowledge that. Or just too stupid to realise it.

As the saying goes, whatever you feed grows, whatever you starve dies.

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>>84207100
Funny how only Leftards are allowed to have any satirical comedy shows without any repercussions isn't it?

If the right ever made any of those they'd all cry crocodile tears, cry hate speech and sue everytime.

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>>84208511
Not him, but please kill yourself, moron.

>>84208732
>I'm sure whatever Oliver said was correct.
His show is well researched compared to his peers, but this is stupid. No one is correct 100% of the time, much less when they are speaking for a political agenda.
>But the actual claim or its truthfulness doesn't matter.
It absolutely does, especially if it impacts how his community views him as a person, and if it impacts the success of his business and the livelihood of his employees.

>>84208732
>I'm sure whatever Oliver said was correct.
LOL

>>84207437
whoa whoa whoa, stop asking so many questions, goy

Watch the clip. He literally wants the guy to sue him. It's a major point. This is going to work 100% in Oliver's favor. I'm sure they had lawyers tweak everything before it went on air.

>>84208583
>>84208612
The experimental evidence for electromagnetism was provided by Heinrich Herz, who was a professor at University of Karlsruhe. Meaning, his income and the money necessary for his research was provided by German Empire

>>84208732
>I'd trust his show a lot more than any of the anonymous morons on here trying to malign people they disagree with.
You're clearly an indoctrinated imbecile. How did you find this place anyway?

>>84207001
>wow anon ur gay
>fuck off dude
>haha I was right you are gay since you took it so seriously!

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>>84206941
Is he being sued for One billion gagillion fafillion shabadabalo shabadamillion shabaling shabalomillion yen?

>>84208814
yup and that dumbass took the bait

>>84208823
Where did the German Empire get those funds? Was it a result of taxation on the citizens or the conquests of war?

>>84208732
>I'm sure whatever Oliver said was correct.
>Doesn't even bother to check.
You are his audience.

>>84208704

People are defined Ned by things beyond their physical being.

Grow up and stop being affect by trivial things.

>>84208713

Seems you can. Daily show has for YEARS.

I don't see what being singled out or commended for factual reporting in one case has to do with the fact that as a whole the entire program is clearly, obviously and indisputably aimed at entertaining.

You would think after the Oprah beef case all those years ago no one would really take the bait anymore. Yet here were are with yet another dumb ass looking to sue a tv personality over something they said on a show.

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>>84208742
LOL THAT WACKY SAM 2 MANY LAYERS OF IRONY WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS PACMAN ARCADE MACHINE DOPAMINE AND DAVID DUKE
>donate money to Daily Stormer in the same breath

>>84208219
I thought you guys hate coal burners.

>>84208742

>if the right ever made one of those

Dennis Miller just isn't funny enough, guy.

>>84208876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKKHSAE1gIs

>>84208789

>It absolutely does

To you maybe, but not under the law.

Stop hating on the first amendment.

>>84208924
they're just waving at the camera you paranoid idiot

>>84208928
He's in the top five of solo Weekend Update hosts.

>>84208909
>the entire program is clearly, obviously and indisputably aimed at entertaining.
Are you serious? This is blatantly untrue. The show is about propaganda, always has been.

>>84208905
>implying the network doesn't hire lawyers to look over his content before airing it
would be surprised desu

>>84208897
taxation.
German Empire didn't wage any major wars until WW1

>>84208955

Yes, and I love his imagery and his similes.

But his comedy suffers when it's political, Its a common ailment in both sides of the political spectrum.

>>84208852
I've been coming here for about 10 years, so probably longer than you.

Also if you buy into any of /pol/'s garbage then it's a bit rich for you to call anyone dumb or indoctrinated.

>>84208870
Telling someone to fuck off in that situation is being dismissive. You're not actively trying to prevent them from saying that to you. You aren't threatening to incapacitate them in some way for claiming you're gay.

I looked at the segment in question, he mentions before hand that Bob Murray is very litigious and he seems to have been actively trying to bait him to file a suit against him.

Maybe he is trying to perform some kind of Oscar Wilde type manoeuvre.

>>84208796
>>84208905
Prove it wasn't

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>>84208964

Let's call your opinion true then, and we'll stop here.

It's a serious propaganda piece.

>>84207100
I really hate how these shows stand behind comedy to get away with propaganda and lies. At least have the balls to stand by your shit when people call you out on it.

>>84208951
But you weren't talking about the legal grounds. You were trying to suggest that the CEO responding negatively to Oliver's claims make the claims seem "accurate," as though one would never try to rebuke misinformation about oneself.

>>84207437
Satire is a legally protected form of speech and has been used since the founding fathers to make political points and enact change.

>>84209012
>>>84208796
>>>84208905
>Prove it wasn't


Look at a picture of the guy.

He totally looks like Dr. Evil.

>>84209029

Doesn't change what the law is, and what it protects.

>>84209014


You both need to stop hating on free speech.

>>84209001
>/pol/'s garbage
So, you decided to further confirm that I'm right. Thanks, I guess. If you didn't have your head so firmly showed up your ass, you'd know that they're right about a great many things.

>>84208966
>Trusting comedians to do journalism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l17TPkXGVCo
>implying you could possibly know that.

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>>84209035
This, tyrants always get the maddest when you point them out.

>>84207437

Its clear to everyone that the show has entertainment as a goal.

The fact that it's recognized for its truthfulness at times does not negate this nature within the program.

>>84209013
lol You really have no idea how stupid you are. Some people really are beyond help.

>finished

OP you clearly don't know how defamation works in America
Murray will have to prove he was defamed
That Oliver knowingly lied about him
And that a reasonable person would believe it

Oliver needs to only cite a reliable source
And cite the fact that he is a comedian telling jokes

The USA is the worst country on Earth to try to sue people for libel, slander, or defamation

There is a lot of things wrong with the USA, but its protection of free speech is not one of them.

>>84208909
>People are defined Ned by things beyond their physical being.
>waaah not using muh pronoun is literal spiritual assault waaaaaaaaah
>Grow up and stop being affect by trivial things.
is it hard to develop this much cognitive dissonance are do you just naturally acquire it by watching shit like john oliver?

>>84209012
>Coal is dying
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/10/new-coal-mine-donald-trump-pennsylvania-fossil-fuels-regulations
>First New Coal Mine of Trump Era Opens in Pennsylvania
Learn to thread faggot.
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>>84209080

I really wanted you to actually point out the irony, but your saltyness got in the way.

But hey, like you said, the show isn't about entertainment, its propaganda.

>>84209060
There's literally no difference between Oliver and a News anchor

They're both people hired for their presenting skills who exist to communicate the research the actual journalists/researchers have done behind the scenes.

>>84209055
>Doesn't change what the law is, and what it protects.
Yes, and? Are you admitting you just changed the subject because you were wrong but Oliver was nevertheless legally safe?

>>84209060
>“We have confidence in the staff of Last Week Tonight and do not believe anything in the show this week violated Mr. Murray’s or Murray Energy’s rights,” said HBO in a statement today about the trial jury seeking complaint that alleges a “meticulously planned attempt to assassinate the character and reputation” of the energy titan and his various companies.
Yeah, you're right, the multi-billion dollar network must have no idea what they're doing then.

>>84209110
>one coal mine opens
>this is enough to prevent the death of coal
why do conservatards like non-renewable energy so much anyway? coal mining is a terrible job that kills people

>>84206941
>protection of free speech is not one of them

Not that that'll stop the edgelord faggots on /tv/ behaving as though they'll be sued for everything their parents have or dragged away by the Cheka for being "too redpilled".

>>84209110
>10 people working there
>All of coal employs less than JC Penny's
>Rich get richer and the poor whites remain suckers

>want John Oliver gone
>don't want asspained billionaires to be able to take down anyone who hurts their feelings

This is the death of Gawker all over again,

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>ridiculed
what a little princess

>>84209121
News anchors don't use satire and professional journalists tend to shy away from it. Political satire is its own unique part of the free speech checks and balances on government and has been since the country's founding

>>84208909
But that's always been a criticism of the daily show as well

>>84209123

Anon, I'm not the same anon.

That's why the subject changed.

Keep up.

when you want to be happy about your favorite bogeyman's misfortune but the method by which it's happening is also disagreeable

these trash fire threads are my favorite; delicious nerd frustration

>>84209136
>Gawker dies
>Univision buys it out and is now gonna apply the Gawker platform to their Onion sites
It literally got bigger by dying

>>84209136
having your illegally recorded sex tape publicly distributed is just "hurting your feelings"?

>>84209173

The fact remains.

>>84209035
Yes but satire doesn't try to enact political change. John Oliver telling you who to vote for in the French/Canadian/American election does.

>>84209112
To see the show for what it really is, all you need is some basic understanding of whatever topic Oliver is discussing, the bias and dishonesty really shines through. As the idiom goes, it's not rocket science, and if it really is beyond you, I'm sorry.

>>84209198
You're a fucking retard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

The main use of satire for 1000s of years is political change dumbass. Even if you are part of the uneducated that voted for Trump you should have learned about it multiple times in your US history classes in middle school AND high school

>>84209098

I see being affected by what others care about is the height of maturity.

Carry on with the righteous indignation anon, I'm sure it's helpful.

>>84209177
>see two people conversing
>jump in with a reply to one
>your reply is a non-sequitur
>hurr why are you confused

>>84209077
If entertainment being the goal is a shield from not doing due diligence in reporting, than why do John Oliver fans attack Fox News?
Its the same shit

>>84209181
>haha everyone here is really mad except for me >despite the fact that i come into threads i don't like i'm not upset at all haha
ok kid

>>84209232

Sure...that makes sense outside this site.

If you want to assume you know who you are responding to on a site where everyone is named anonymous, go right on ahead.

>>84209127
>We have every confidence that the staff of Last Week Tonight is guilty of defamation.
>thinking they would say anything remotely negative about themselves ahead of a lawsuit

>>84209112
And relearn the word irony. You don't know what it means.

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>>84209223

Yeah, it's just lies, because you know they are.

>>84209263
I don't care that the person I am replying to is the same person, but I do expect that the person I am replying to is opting to engage in the actual exchange at hand. If you jump into a reply chain with a non-sequitur and someone replies back that you are missing the point, you should probably double-check you replied to the right post.

>>84209281
Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see if this multi-billion dollar company didn't utilize their lawyers to check the content of a controversial shit-stirrer before airing it, won't we?

>>84209252

They're not suing for hurt feelings, now are they?

And the guy indeed looks like Dr evil. This is fact.

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>>84209228
But it totally falls apart. I had Republican and Democrat friends who were both fans of the Colbert report, because they thought he was speaking to them.
If 2 Polar opposite interpretations come from the same piece of media what political change is that satire accomplishing? Its reinforcing both sides

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>>84209228
I don't remember Spitting Image telling me who to vote for and that show had some great satire. They would throw punches at the political opposition all the time.

>>84209325

Sorry, I'm not taking the other persons position so you can have the satisfaction of refuting (You)'s on that other persons point.

>>84209228
most uneducated and invalids vote for democrats though. some fat cunt who has a degree in psychology doesn't have more worth than an electrician who didn't go to college. i can't wait for the civil war desu

>>84209340

The republican friends were obtuse.

It's like a troll inspiring genuine believers, it's all in the game.

>>84209229
>I see being affected by what others care about is the height of maturity.
What are you even sperging out about?

Mentally ill snowflakes getting you thrown in prison for not letting them dictate your word usage is a much bigger infringement on the first amendment than suing someone for saying false things about you. Clearly the first amendment doesn't apply any more, the only thing that matters is which things you can get society to ban saying. Why is this so hard for you?

>Carry on with the righteous indignation
I'm not indignant. But carry on pretending anyone who notices your retardation and points it out is mad, I'm sure it's helpful.

>>84209338
>They're not suing for hurt feelings, now are they?

Bob Murray's apparently suing for /pol/'s hurt feelings.

>>84209338
My complaint was never about whether or not they should be on the air. I was complaining he accepted a Pulitzer when doing a comedy program, which muddles the understanding of the show, because you can't say "oh it's just a joke" when acting like a journalist, and demanding the same level of attention and weight put on what you're presenting

>>84209360
I like pepperoni pizza, too.

Eat shit Bob

>>84209394

Meh.

Me too, but it bores me at this point.

>>84209389
fuck off back to the /r/MarchAgainstTrump discord

>>84209368
>i can't wait for the civil war

so is masturbating in front of a computer is just masturbating in front of a computer irrespective of what's happening in the outer world, anon

>>84209340
>It can't be satire unless the person is a total party hack
Its almost like Colbert wasn't a politician and criticized things on both sides.
>>84209346
So does literally every other "liberal" satirical news show. You just don't actually watch any but want them to not exists

>>84209393

To you.

It muddled it to you.

Any intelligent person knows the award was accepted because it benefits the program and it's ratings. Not to claim legitimacy in reporting.

>>84207100
Do you even know what satire is?

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>>84209381
I dunno about that. When he'd have someone advocating socialist policies come onto the show and he'd start off by asking them if they were a communist, you could say he was parodying Rush Limbaugh, but you could also say he was voicing what everyone else was thinking and was refusing to say. In that case I don't think they were being obtuse

>>84209385

I'm sorry the world is just so unfair to you.

>>84209368
Uneducated whites far outnumber the uneducated of any other group. They mostly all vote republican.

Also invalids isn't a term used outside of nazi Germany

>>84209429
what the fuck did you mean by this

>>84209420
Then why is it every time I look at the YouTube comments for his videos its flooded with comments of people saying they get their news from John Oliver. Clearly it's not just muddled to me.

>>84209429
>the liberal mind

>>84209428

Do you?

>>84209130
>the first one the state has seen in years
>doesn't understand what first means
I didn't say it would prevent the death of coal but it's far from dead as long as China is still around.

>>84209457

Ok.

Many get information from a show that is primarily meant to entertain.

Clear now?

Nothing is funnier than the truth.

>>84207147
Yeah, also comedy/parody gets a pretty wide birth with defamation

>>84209445
In 2016, with all your gender studies grads, you won the college educated demographic by a few points, you stupid redditor.

>>84209406
>STOP MAKING ME CRY
>>84209420
The pieces are well researched and the same kind of research a journalist would do. Do not try to discount the research. His format is different from a journalists. He presents the research in a satirical manner where as a journalist would write it up in an article.

>>84209418
>It can't be satire unless the person is a total party hack
If you're trying to enact political change than yes. That was my point. If you're not trying to enact political change and criticize both sides you're not pushing politics

>>84209440
>libtard can't respond coherently to the point (because they're idiots and their stances are incoherent)
>they start trying to deflect with non-sequiturs
wow where have i seen this before

>>84209482
>Uneducated white Trump supporter has trouble with his reading

There are educated people on both sides and they weren't being discussed, but thanks for letting me know the majority of the educated are now democrats

>>84209494

Gosh, you are utterly victimized.

Get help.

>>84209483
>raider from Reddit is upset about being identified

BURN THE COAL PAY THE TOLL

>>84209488
Do /pol/ dumbasses really think political parties are sports team and you have to take every single one of their points at face value and wanted change from both means you don't have a point?

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>>84209479
If it presents the news
If it's the sole source of news that some people go to
If it gets presented and accepts rewards for its news telling
Its the News

>>84209418
A light jab at Obama stuttering is tame compare to the taking the piss at their policies.
>"You have to sign the bill if you what to know what's in it."

>>84209514
If you don't count the pathetic humanities grads, the Republicans are better educated. Trump also won educated whites and educated white males. Really triggers you, huh?

>>84209516
>admitting you're a retard who can't support his claims and tries to deflect with shitposting
>while still trying to argue seriously with someone else in the thread as if you have meaningful ideas that should be taken seriously
what did he mean by this?

>>84209547
Oliver was the only person that really took on the expanded government surveillance under Obama. Multiple times

>>84209540

Sure, especially if you say so.

And if people use a screwdriver as an ice pick, it stops being a screwdriver.

>>84209571
>Oliver was the only person that really took on the expanded government surveillance under Obama. Multiple times
You're serious?

>>84209334
It's just 5.4 billion don't falter them so much.

>>84209579
And it stops being a duck if you don't call it one

>>84209568

You need more synonyms for retard, you imbecilic illiterate.

It's like the same post each time.

>>84209571
Are leftists really this fucking stupid?

>>84209571
>being this indoctrinated
He really called Obama out on all his corruption, huh?

>>84209565
>Lemme change the topic real quick since I lost the other argument

>If you don't count these votes that count then something totally different happened

Also Trump did not get the support of educated white women and the educated of literally every other race. What point were you trying to make?

>>84209603

Still a delicious waterfowl by any other name.

>>84206969

You dumb cuck. You think Gawker was bad too?

>>84209617
It was a news story for a few months with quite a number of the uneducated claiming Snow was a traitor. The only people that tried to enact change were out of the country (Brazil and The Guardian).

>>84206941
He should be deported with his Mexican buddies desu.

>>84208219
>Coal is a Masculine and White energy source
>literally turns you into a nigger after working long enough.

>>84209621
>Also Trump did not get the support of educated white women and the educated of literally every other race.
And yet his voters on average earn more money than these "educated" people.

>>84209604
>retard thinks people aren't allowed to point out his retardation unless they make it read like a thesaurus
maybe if you focused more on not being an idiot who can't argue a point instead of varying your shitty insults you wouldn't have this problem

>>84209672

Yes because the very richest are in the group and the skew the average considerably for the majority despite being very few.

>>84209621
>can only avoid being crushed by the help of shitskins and their gender studies degrees
This is clearly your win.

>>84209698

>a thesaurus

No need to go that far, just read a bit.

(That's what illiterate means, that you don't read)

>>84209571
And you're saying I don't listen enough to the other side? Everyone who was under surveillance was against it, the left just pretended that their guy wasn't part of it and need I mention the 7 wars, yet only Bush gets called the warmonger?

>>84209733
"read like a thesaurus" is a figure of speech known as an analogy. the word "thesaurus" was used in that sentence to describe how a post would read. nothing was ever suggested about needing to look up synonyms in a thesaurus to make said post. you fucking moron.

>>84209795

You're upset.

This can't be good for you.

Look at your post structure.

>>84209665
You're a globalist and probably a Jew or at the very least a good goy. In any event, you're more nigger than nigger because even niggers are finally understanding that the Jew controls the media, and the food they're allowed to eat, and the clothes they wear and the materials they use in every day life. In especially the media. NO one among them was more based than Malcolm X a man who said that you're to beware of the ones who control the media, he even hinted at Jews.

>>84209571
He didn't seem to mind when on Obama's last day of office he gave the NSA the authority to share information with private companies.

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>>84208115
>American Liberal speaker
More like commie speaker. He's comrade Corbyn tier

>>84208156
>just explain why free market didnt fix somalia
>>>/niggers/

>>84209925

And no one got mad either, right?

That really only works when people claim trolls, not when you feel trolled so much. That's just on you.

>>84209480
Isn't it "berth" in this usage?

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ITS HAPPENING amirite trumpbros
any trumpbros want to meet up for a group j/o session? no faggots, just based trumpbros

Glad these late night libcucks are finally get fucked by the law. Colbert and Maher should have been fired, hopefully HBO does the right thing and can this irrelevant britcuck back to the Islamic nation of London.

Once we get rid of them, we can finally have free speech without all these SJW snowflakes crying because of politically incorrect statements from Trump.

>>84210054
>And no one got mad either, right?
Don't think so. You're probably feeling embarrassed and retarded hence your attempts to deflect. I'm mostly feeling disdain.

>not when you feel trolled so much
I don't. You were trying to seriously argue before everyone pointed out how retarded you are and you degenerated into pure reddit spaced shitposting. You took a break from your pure content-less shitposting and tried to insult me based on my post before I pointed out you're an idiot who just didn't understand it. I'm pretty confident that this is damage control and the exact situation in the image happened.

>>84210190

But you're not mad, right?

>>84210123
>we can finally have free speech

You've got it now, you gormless fuck-up. What you're lacking's just personal courage. The members of the Westboro Baptist Church had a fuck of a lot more guts than you.

> /tv/-/pol/ against free speech just because in this case somebody is suing a sjw
imagine if it was the other way around
but yeah, you're better than sjws...

>>84210277
freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences

there are laws against libel and slander you do realize that right? of course not considering liberalism is a mental disorder to sub-IQ people

>>84210250
>>84210277

See
>>84208704

When something is dead you move on without it, you don't dress it up and learn ventriloquism.

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>>84210305
>liberalism is a mental disorder to sub-IQ people

Those morans need to get a brain.

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>>84210334
Whatever gets you there, big guy.

>>84210491
The funny part is that guy got what he wanted and you're impotently trying to convert people on 4chan.

>>84210277
> /tv/-/pol/ against free speech just because in this case somebody is suing a sjw
Brits don't have constitutional right to free speech. in bongistan he'd be jail for protesting sharia

>>84210305
And how many times has /pol/ called Obama a muslim non-american born nigger? Should they all be sued?

If you're going to answer anything other than "Yes", please refrain from posting and instead take some time to reflect on your politically-biased hypocrisy.

>>84210756
See>>84210655

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>>84207100
Redpill time.