So we can all agree it was shit except for Varga, right?

>>84206026
HOW THE FUCK DID HIS CAR JUST MAGICALLY RESTART???

>>84206037
When assgirl hid the shotgun, she accidently siphoned gas into his car.
They didn't want it to be blatant, as that would ruin the art.
It's Implied.

>>84206037
good catch, didn't notice that
I was bothered how out of character it was for Nicki to murder a totally innocent police officer in cold blood

>>84206026
Varga was shit too, his shtick got old pretty fucking quick for me.

>>84206207
I think he kept on giving with the tooth picking, getting flustered about the police officers, sacrificing Meemo, the bulimia etc.
Great actor too

>>84206282
I like Thewlis as an actor, I'm just saying the collection of mannerisms Varga displayed failed to coalesce into a believable character for me. It was obnoxiously gimmicky.

>>84206026
Varga made it for me.
It's rare that I love seeing a character succeed, but also can't wait to see him fail. Very well done.
Everyone else I didn't care too much about.

>>84206026
I cant believe Yuri just vanished like that. If Ray Wise deemed him to be bad enough to not leave the bowling alley, then surely he'd have known that Nikki was going to MURDER A FUCKING COP IN COLD BLOOD, so then why let her go too???? Also the ending was so predictable and basically ripped straight from Lord Of War. Meemo lacked literally any character depth whatsoever, Yuri was the most fleshed out character on the show and he just fucking disappeared. VM should have just disappeared in the elevator for good and not come back at all, I thought it was clear that the season was building up to him being some sort of supernatural being counterpoint to Ray Wise?

>>84206381
the aim is not to be believable though, and the repeated mannerisms and nonsense is intended to be irritating. the other characters get fed up with his bullshit

Daily reminder that "lol it's meant to be empty, it's all about coincidence and the meaningless of life lol haha" is not a valid argument

Just look at the coen bros films. Many of their films ends this way, but it feels complete. Everything has still gotten a fitting resolution.

The only thing i liked about the episode was the ambiguous ending with varga. It was the only thing that tied into the themes of the season in a good way. I don't get why so many people hate it when it's everything else that is fucking terrible.

>>84206432
>character without a name that's portraied like a demon who corrupts and destroys normal people, making his own mouth bleed, displaying supernatural-esque qualities
>nah just kidding he's just a guy with good lawyers

Yeah he was the only thing that redeemed the awful lady cop characters and the STRONG WOMAN girlfriend and her stupid sidekick. Fucking infuriating whiteknight characters.

>>84206432
Agreed on all points. Also how little did the Sherrif have to do with the aprehension of anybody. They handled discovery so shitily. Swango had to silverplater every thing. It was just a mess.
I found the shrodeger theory shit heavy handed as well. 1>>2>3
Simpatico to the point of spooky.

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>>84206026
Is "the past is unpredictable" an actual russian saying?

Why does Varga pick at his gums?
Why does he throw up?
What was in his spray bottle that disorientated Emmit so badly

>>84206543
2 is absolute television kino and the best thing to have been aired since Sopranos you absolute plen

>>84206432
>VM should have just disappeared in the elevator for good and not come back at all, I thought it was clear that the season was building up to him being some sort of supernatural being counterpoint to Ray Wise?
Exactly.

>>84206207
I really hated his line delivery because it was like that so they could emphasize the rotten teeth. Also he had a very punchable face. Not the fault of Thewlis, he is a great actor, but Varga got boring after a while.

>>84206561
>That shit actiony wankfest of a gunfight with the romp 'em stomp 'em twins.
>The indian gets shoehorned into being the boss from Season one.
>the BBC banging cunt
>AYYYYY LMAOS

Fat Todd and Thicc girl saved it though.

>>84206647
>>AYYYYY LMAOS
>there was a supernatural element - wtf that dont real?? I hate season 2 now!
there it is again. Better to be silent and thought a pleb, than to shitpost and remove all doubt

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>>84206188
>in cold blood

you guys really have to start using world correctly

>>84206037
I thought that was weird too

I enjoyed the season but there were a lot of plot points that pretty much went no where

>>84206788
>not in cold blood
>self defense, spur of the moment, emotional motives, not calculated or premeditated

>cold blood
>inching away towards shotgun for a minute with the sole intention of executing a man that pose no thread to you, whom you've never met before

Weak, meandering season. I feel like they just lost track of when weirdness stops serving the narrative and just becomes a blatant gimmick.

>>84206037
It just overheated

>>84206432
Yuri died, Nikki was given a chance to redeem herself and chose to pursue revenge instead, she got what she deserved

>>84206551
It exaggerates the notion that what drives Varga and his crew isn't wealth or getting "fat". It's predatory and they gorge just to gorge. He isn't sustained by the meal, he is constantly focused on the idea of the next meal.

The bulimia is really brilliant "show don't tell" moments that make the writing in this show exceptional.

He's picking his gums because he's a fucking vomit goblin.

>>84207022
Leland Palmer told her to face of with the "wicked" though right? Seemed to me he was pushing for revenge

Who killed grandpa Stussy?

>>84207051
>He's picking his gums because he's a fucking vomit goblin.
is picking teeth something that bulimic people do?

Yuri was the best and most interesting character and should have had more impact

>>84206026
Is it just me or does this season look like the unfinished draft for a Fargo season? So many things are missing but I can't point my finger exactly.

>>84207074
I don't know, but picking his gums until it bleeds, then eating cold ice cream? I'm sure he likes to punish himself that way

>>84207058
She should have continued pursuing Varga. She can't fully remember the speech Ray Wise's character gave. She was supposed to go on a divine mission to take down Varga. Emmitt at worst became a bit sleazy for getting influenced and associated with Varga. He was not "wicked" though and tried to make up for his mistakes.

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>>84207069
It was ME!

>>84207093
Not like there was ever a whole lot of material to run the series on. I think they may just be out of steam at this point.

Meme-O a cute.

>>84206188

>Create elaborate revenge plan, shown to be calculating all throughout said plan
>Fuck it up by pulling a gun on a cop

It annoyed me how Emmit never explained what specifically happened with his brother. He never told anyone they got into verbal fight and he thrust the glass frame into Rey's face. Either way emmit didn't deserve what he got.

>>84207093
feel the same way
>Director want to do something with the post-truth theme
>creates Varga and ties in some Putin
>ok now I just need to make a show around it
it's like he either had too little time to finish writing, or he just wasn't inspired enough. Could've worked as a short film or something, but it just gets frustrating when you drag it out to ten episodes with several episodes that has nothing but filler.
>that episode when Gloria goes to Los Angeles for 50 minutes
>flat out explaining the animation sequence to the audience
>drop the entire plot line of her personal/love life
>Sy is dropped like a hot potato
>Meemo dies off screen
it's just so unfinished and unpolished

>>84206026
what bothered me that they had a croatian playing a russian. with that balkans/dinaric/turk mug of a face he wasn't a convincing russian, also the accent was so balkans... But I guess for Americans it does not matter.

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>>84206037
Vapor lock. It's the third most common cause of stalling!

>>84207189
I agree. It sounds like it could have been a great series if they hadn't rushed it. For example,last night season 1 of Fargo was on and I realized how much better it was than season 3. It had everything,the humor and suspense.

>malvo
>molly
>lou
>lester
>wrench and numbers
>dennis as a dimwitted coach
>supermarket king
>key and peele
>saul as the police chief who is believably incompetent

Compare that cast to season 3

>ray and emmit
>yuri and meemo
>varga
>gloria
>sy

>>84207189
This. But i had no problem with the los angeles ep.

The problem is that all these interesting themes like post-truth, storytelling in itself, how we relate to each other in a post internet age, just gets dropped, these themes don't lead to any conclusion. It really feels like a draft for a season like the other guy said.

>>84206432
>MURDER A FUCKING COP IN COLD BLOOD
Seems more like she murdered a fucking cop in the heat of the moment.

>>84207287
>post internet age
>he said over the internet

>>84206647
>>The indian gets shoehorned into being the boss from Season one.
This is the only valid critique.

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>>84206026
He will always be the king from dragonheart to me.

>>84206647
>>the BBC banging cunt
>the show has a character I don't agree with, hence the show is bad

>>84207283

It'd be nice if they dropped the stoic/mysterious right hand man. Stoic and deadly seems to be a gigantic cliche with Asian and Native American characters too.

>>84206026
>Nikki
>Ray
>Wrench
>Sy
>Widow Goldfarb
>Emmit (some of the time)
>Gloria (some of the time)
>Weird cop

Hawley had a bunch of good characters he squandered or killed off in disappointing ways.

Varga's escape made no sense, and I hated his ending as well. It wanted to be deep and yet it relied solely on Varga having an inexplicably numerous amount of connections to people in choice positions of power who can get him out of any situation without scrutiny or investigation.

All in all Hawley is a hack who rips off other better writers (Don Hertzfeldt, the Coens) and relies on contrivances (the State Trooper happening to drive past and happening to stop and stick his nose in despite there being no evidence of a crime being committed) , dumb character choices (e.g. Nikki not searching the elevator shaft for Varga) and deux ex machina (that text Varga gets while holding the elevator alerting him that the drives aren't in the building).

I could've looked past Hawley's hackiness like I have with previous seasons if he could actually come up with satisfying conclusions to character arcs and the overall story. But he has no idea how to end things in a satisfying way and relies on the crutch of it being a "true story" as a attempt at justifying his bullshit. And people eat this shit up despite the glaring flaws because they're idiots who have been trained by the general mediocre quality of modern films and television to look past these things.

>>84207307
jumbled my words. Didn't mean it in that way.

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>>84206188
She literally thought she was ona quest from God. She thought this was her big holy moment, in reality that little talk from God in the bowling alley was as much about her, as any other villain in the story.

>>84207350
sorry mate just breaking your balls, I completely agree. It goes against the show-don't-tell-principle, everything interesting about post truth isn't in the show, it just exists in Varga's dialog.
Instead of him explaining how the truth is decided by the people in power, they should've shown it.

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>>84207345
>And people eat this shit up despite the glaring flaws because they're idiots who have been trained by the general mediocre quality of modern films and television to look past these things.

>>84207157
I don't understand why people liked that creepy little midget. He was so malacious. He was willing to stoop to any level to advance Varga's agenda. What he did to Nikki, Sy and that lawyer at the beginning was so vicious. And I usually like twinks desu

Plus every time the actor opened his mouth he revealed how bad at acting he was. He was much better without any lines.

>>84207345
>that text Varga gets while holding the elevator alerting him that the drives aren't in the building).

I thought Nicki sent it to bring him specifically back down. In that situation he should of been fucked either way because if he thought it was a trap and ignored it than wrench would of shot him anyway.

>>84207396
No need to be salty, it's just the truth

>>84206168
Kek, good parody of the "people" defending the hack's lazy writing

>>84207345
>Varga's escape made no sense
yeah it did, half his shtick is being an invisible, slippery, almost otherworldly entity
>and I hated the ending as well.
then you're just a pleb

Getting a text with information that is very well in the reach of him and his contacts is not a deus ex machina.

>>84207422
Another thing that didn't make sense is how Nikki seemed surprised by the existence of the hatch in the roof of the elevator. She's meant to be a smart character and anybody with basic common sense would look for every possible escape route in the trap they were laying and prevent them from being used.

Plus the fact she didn't disable the camera, or at least make sure it wasn't recording to anything. Where would a camera in an abandoned building be recording to anyway?

>>84207475
What if... Varga simply got off on the second floor?

>>84207457
>yeah it did, half his shtick is being an invisible, slippery, almost otherworldly entity
Yeah no I got that with the way he inexplicably left his coat behind. But just because it fits the theme of his character doesn't mean it makes logical sense. It's not even the deus ex machina hatch in the roof, it's the fact Nikki doesn't check for him on the roof of the elevator or on floor 2 where he could've climbed.

>>84207163
Same. Maybe if he had explained he could have teamed up with Nikki. But no, the nigger had to show up and ruin everything as they always do.
>S2: comfy until Milligan showed up
>Breaking Bad: comfy until Fring showed up
>Justified: comfy until Limehouse showed up

>>84207514
The hatch was open. Why do dummies try to rationalise bad writing anyway? Can't you just admit that Noah Hawley is a hack who cribs from better writers and relies on contrivances to get the plot where he wants it?

>>84206037
Emmit was getting a second chance after Nicki went against the wandering Jew's task.
It's Fargo, it's filled with all kinds of shit that doesn't make sense in reality.

>>84207163
>He never told anyone
He told Gloria that it was an accident after he turned himself in and was interview, but he still claimed he was responsible for his death.

It didn't really make sense he just let Nikki dismiss him in the middle of trying to explain what actually happened, but I think he just accepted that it didn't really matter and that both he and Nikki thought he was responsible for Ray's death regardless.

>>84207525
>But just because it fits the theme of his character doesn't mean it makes logical sense
>demanding "logical sense" from a show that has Malvo (who cleared out an entire mafia enterprise on his own), the Indian with more or less supernatural powers, aliens, the wandering jew deciding who lives or dies, etc
dude this season deserves a lot of criticism but you're way off.

>deus ex machina hatch in the roof
stop using "deus ex machina" dude you don't know what it means. Escaping an elevator through a hatch in the roof is not using an unforseen divine act to solve an impossible problem. It's a fucking hatch. That's in virtually every elevator.
It's not even fucking important. It's true to the show and true to the character so it's not something you should complain about.

>>84207562
this is a good explaination but if this is the case, and not just sloppy writing, they should've clarified it. because now it's just a plot hole, that could be fixed with some revised writing

>>84207367
Was that why she did that prayer thing instead of killing Emmit when she had the chance?

>>84206188
He was getting in the way of her killing Emmit. That was all she wanted from the world at that point.

>>84206037
Completely missed that.

How did Nikki get a new truck with tinted windows while there was a BOLO out on her? I know she had money from Wrench, but police would've been looking everywhere for her.

How did Nikki know where Emmit was?

>>84206037
I was expecting him to undergo a Stavros Milos-like experience and find something to the side of the road

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>>84207562

This nigga gets it.

State trooper uniforms are a nice color.

>>84206551
he explicitly said he hates wasting shit

>>84207645
>How did Nikki know where Emmit was?

Followed him from his house.

>>84207601
If it had been established that Varga could dematerialise into thin air at will and justified in the context of the setting I wouldn't be complaining.

>>84207601
Most elevators don't have maintenance hatches, and if they do they're usually not unlocked.

If you don't see how it was a cop-out to just have Varga disappear without any challenge whatsoever (Nikki searching the elevator shaft) then I don't know what to say to you.

>>84207720
He was driving from work back home at that point.

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>>84206026

>Better Call Saul
>ends the season with Jimmy giving up a lucrative career path and a million fucking dollars because of some little old lady's feelings
>see a well written season finale that had me and my bros talking for a half hour afterwards about its significance and hidden meaning and how it may apply to the Cohen's body of work as a whole
>/tv/ thinks it's shit

Never change.

>>84207737
>I'm going to need a list of these characters abilities. Gandalf made his staff glow? This was never included in the move list! DEUS EX MACHINA!

>Die Hard is such a bad movie, those ventilation shafts couldn't possibly support Bruce Willis' weight. DROPPED

unironically try watching some other show

>>84207762

Followed him from work. That doesn't seem improbable.

>>84207799
>I unironically believe Hawley intended for Varga to have a canon teleportation ability
>I can't explain why Varga didn't just teleport out of the interrogation room in the final scene though

>>84207824
How'd she know that was where he was though? To follow someone you first have to find them.

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>>84207765
>just cause i spoke about it with my fag friends it is kino
>muh life is weird people die lel it didnt matter series

>>84207765
The point is, Jimmy still has empathy and a conscience. The death of Chuck, specially after what he said to him, will push him even more into his Saul persona. But he still has to see some fucked up shit.
Oh, and the Fargo finale was shit.

>>84207833

Picking the obvious places first when trying to find someone isn't really out of the question. There's other more dumb stuff to question than this.

>>84207833
It was likely that he'd go to work. That's not what sucked about the writing.

>>84206545
Net.
This season is uber-dog-shit tier.

>>84207825
>V.M Varga's entire character is built around being evasive, illusive and cunning
>escapes from an elevator off screen, an act completely possible by anyone and it's very true to the character and within the realm of possibilities
>throw a bitch fit about they didn't explicitly say how he did it
>"dude it doesn't fucking matter, do you need every small single detailed explained to you? maybe try watching something else"
>IN SEASON THREE EPISODE TEN, WHEN VARGA PLAYS ITCHY'S BODY AS A XYLOPHONE, HEHE, HE STRIKES THE SAME RIB TWICE AND PRODUCES TWO CLEARLY DIFFERENT TONES. HEHE, WHAT ARE WE TO BELIEVE, THAT IT'S SOME KIND OF, HEHE, MAGICAL XYLOPHONE?

>>84207765
>t. brainlet

>>84207765
>use of the word kino
>respect for zack snyder
>thinking the fargo TV series is anything but a shlocky rip-off of the movie with some garbage thrown in
>being pretentious enough to refer to Coen brothers' films as their "body of work" while simultaneously misspelling their name
>implying this pulpy shit could ever shine a candle to the Coens' actual work
>implying there's any significance or hidden meaning to Noah Hawley's garbage
>arrogantly dismissing /tv/ while being just as bad if not worse than the average poster
there's just so many things wrong here i can't tell if you're trolling or what

>>84206545
>>84207908
It is though

>>84207911
Dude, the coat on the floor

>>84207979
>take off coat so you can climb better
>climb through the hatch

>take off coat to fuck with Nicki, like a "close but no cigar" kinda thing
>exit elevator on level two and send it down to level one

surely divine intervention must be at play here

>>84207911
see >>84207525
>It's not even the deus ex machina hatch in the roof, it's the fact Nikki doesn't check for him on the roof of the elevator or on floor 2 where he could've climbed.
You're a pleb for being dumb enough to think there'd even be a hatch or that it'd be open, but it is a possible thing (though hacky, like the air conditioning unit happening to land on Maurice's head in the first episode, after he happened to stop underneath it to smoke, or the state trooper happening to show up and stop while Nikki was stalling on killing Emmit). What doesn't make sense is Nikki just takes the coat on the ground as evidence he's gone forever, instead of searching the building for him.

>>84208010
>he literally thinks deus ex machina refers to divine intervention and that it isn't a metaphor for improbable events saving a character

>>84207645
>prayer thing
did you even watched the bowling alley scene?
Leeland told him to say it to the killer, but she thought she should tell it to Emett, instead of Varga

>>84206026
>needing a reddit character Wrench to save your shitty season 3

lmao, even when aliens jumped the shark in season 2 wasn't as bad as this

1 > 2 > 3

>>84208039
>improbable events such as exiting an elevator a level earlier than expected

Example of a deus ex: the wolves in GoT coming out of nowhere to save protagonists in seemingly impossible dangers

Not an example of a deus ex: exiting a fucking elevator

>>84208057
I have a bad memory

If Ray was reincarnated into a cat, then what does MEW turn into?

>>84208068
imagine being so pleb you're still hung up on the aliens. they were literally foreshadowing that scene for the entire season and it goes well together with both the themes of the season, and the era it's played out.
>but aliens don't actually exist
low kino IQ at play

>>84208099
A duck.

>>84207157
he looked like he survived. they were carrying him to an ambulance

>>84208120
>the entire season
Episode 1 isn't "the entire season"

>>84208148
rewatch it and pay attention
also read up on the 80s, ask your parents about the ufo sightings

>>84208080
>hatch even being there even though most elevators don't have them (look up next time you're in one)
>hatch being unlocked
>varga being athletic enough to pull himself up
>nikki despite being a smart character not checking the top of the elevator or the second floor (wrench being on the third one already)
I mean this show is full of bullshit improbabilities, characters acting out of character and unsatisfying resolutions to conflicts so I'm not sure why you're arguing this so hard

>>84208099
A pusy

>>84208160
what says he didn't exit at level two then retard
>I'm not sure why you're arguing this so hard
because you're ruining an otherwise good discussion with silly trifles and obnoxious focus on the smallest, arbitrary details

also you remind me of my former room mate who tried to act smart by pointing out irrelevant shit in every movie we watched
"Heh, there's no way Kill Bill-girl would be logically able to kill all those henchmen"
Fuck you Nima

>>84208155
"Ufo sightings" aren't an 80s thing. I remember people talking about that shit when I was a kid in the 90s. And an 80s setting doesn't excuse that bullshit, BTW.
The only part where there's another reference is the sticker in the store near the lake. You see MK Ultra references earlier but nothing about ayy lmaos.

>>84208172
Based pusy poster

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>>84207852
>Jimmy
>conscience

Pointless fanservice for all those idiot fans who got angry at breaking bad because Walt was so mean and nasty and turrible.

>>84208491
>NO ADVENTURE IS COMPLETE WI'OUT JINGLEHAT AN' JINGLE FEET

As usual, a Fargo finale is great for some characters and shit from others

The final scene with Varga and Coon was kino. Nikki's finale was just OK, the bowling scene kinda explains it. Emmit's finale made little or less sense. The scene was good, and I can accept Wrench executing him out of honour and respect, maybe even love/affection. But five years later? What took him so long?

>>84208679
>But five years later? What took him so long?
I don't see a problem with that. He had just killed 5 people in a loud shootout and was caught by the security cameras. He probably fled town and waited out the heat. He probably avoided any contact with Nicki and Stussy for years too, in order to lay low, and probably didn't know what happened to them after several years

>>84208679
>What took him so long?

He had to think he was out of the woods.

"Dish best served cold an' all that, roit?"

>Varga returns to U.S. 5 years later and uses comic book character's name as an alias
What did Noah mean by that?

varga represented the show. as all it did was hork down mountains of quality material, partially digest it, then vomit it into a toilet (FX).

>>84206026
>>84206026

David Thewlis and Ewa McGregor made the show.

I don't like the ending where highly trained and experienced henchmen like Meemo get picked off because Wrench happens to be the writer's dick sleeve.

Wrench wasn't the only one with a high powered weapon and he wasn't going to pick them off with headshots that close.

>>84206432
I liked the ending part with Varga and Gloria, but it seemed stupid that there was a three month timeskip directly after the 5 year timeskip. Totally agree about Meemo being shit and Yuri being underutilized despite how plot relevant they made him out to be.

Only thing I'd add is that Nikki's love for Ray was completely unbelievable, as was her "relationship" or whatever with Wrench and all the shit they managed to pull off.

>>84209349
>Ewa McGregor

he sucked and there was no need whatsoever to have him play two roles, it was jarring and showed how weak are his acting skills.

>>84209251

>implying it wasn't on purpose.

>show borrows the "best trick" line from the Usual Suspects
>plebs are still lost about Varga

>Be a slippery phantom who doesn't exist and can get out of any situation
>Spew your DNA all over every toilet you encounter
Most annoying thing about Varga desu

>>84209891
Speaking of, this was all I could think about when he talked about how much he hated waste at the very end. Was this just another "he's a pathological liar who will lie about insignificant things" bit?

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Reminder that Varga is a metaphor for Donald Trump's America.

>>84206026
I think you might be right. Certainly it didn't hurt that David Thewlis was obviously having himself a high old time.

>>84209935
A smart guy who gets what he wants and outwits his opponents?

How did wrench kill a whole team of heavily armed mercenaries by himself without even getting injured?

>>84206037
Im surprised so many people missed that. It bothered the hell out of me.
>>84206026
Definitely the worst of the three seasons. Noah got obsessed over "alternative facts" and ran from there.

If there's one major downside to this Presidency, it's all the edgy "art" that's come out of it.

>>84209935
Varga's more like one of those old-fashioned crimelords who shunned any sort of public profile and succeeded in staying out of jail. Trump's a stupid, crass exhibitionist like John Gotti.

>>84210044
>If there's one major downside to this Presidency, it's all the edgy "art" that's come out of it.

1984 was written 33 years ago, mate.

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>>84210044
I figured he was driving Chitty-Chitty Bang Bang.

Dramatically ambiguous endings are so fucking hack. I knew exactly what they were going to do as soon as Coon said "this is what's going to happen"

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>>84209935

>season is set in 2010
>the bad guy seems to escape scot free
>with all the money

Think about it, numbskull

>>84210066
>Publication: 8 June 1949
what? Do you mean the John Hurt film?
I'm not sure what this has to do with anything I was referring to.

>>84210066
there's a point where pretending to be stupid is indistinguishable from actual stupidity. 4chan as a whole has been miles past it for about a decade now.

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>>84210114
And all he had to do was gaslight the country. He's basically the hero in the story.

Which of these two photos has the most people? One out of one sitting American presidents will get this wrong.

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>>84210114
bite your hand tomoko the Obese Titan's coming

>>84210114
He's clearly meant to be Trump.

Think about the last season
>Varga in a cheap suit spouting off about alternative history
>Burgle in a blue suit with literal Hillary Clinton hair appealing to old American values
>Literally 5 years into the future aka 2016
Hawley has a hard on for Clinton. It's abundantly clear Varga is supposed to be Trump.

>Dude every bad guy is Drumpf lmao!
Gonna be a long 8 years

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>>84210187

>Varga's stock and trade is legally burying debt

Leftism makes you retarded. If anyone "looks" like Trump, a well meaning idiot with weaknesses, it's Stussy.

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>>84210283
If you don't see it you probably didn't understand the show. The only real difference between the two is one has the good sense to be bulimic.

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>>84210304
>Leftism makes you retarded

Good luck with that, anon.

>>84210313
I guess everyone is watching their own movie in their heads

>>84210132
1984, Fargo S3, and the Trump Presidency all run the underlying theme of reinventing the world though alternative facts. You're inability to see the connection demonstrates your lack of understanding of a great many things.

>>84206026

No, you didnt understand it, pleb.

>>84207248
Чтo тaкoй?

>>84206026
It was great. Did an awesome job of exposing the plebs.

>>84206026
GUYS TV DID IT AGAIN WITH THE STUPID SILENCERS THERE IS NO WAY EVERYONE IN TEH DINING ROOM WOULDNT HEAR THE GUNSHOT THAT KILLED EMMIT

FUCKING TRASH

+++QUESTION+++QUESTION+++QUESTION+++

i cannot fucking remember why stussys cuckboi was in a rollchair in the last scene. why was he hurt? what happened to him?

>>84206545
Yes, but contemporary, not some old folk wisdom.

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Yuri had such great onscreen presence, i love everything about him

>Varga walking into the most obvious trap in history
>Varga and his goons taking the elevator instead of the stairs (why do people in shows do this stupid shit)
>Emmit's cars shuts down and then magically restarts when it's convenient to the plot
>Gloria Burgle's entire plotline was completely pointless. She literally got an entire episode where she was investigating her stepfather's death, even though the audience knows that it was completely random and had nothing to do with the plot. I thought the episode existed to build her character and let her go back to Fargo with a new angle to investigate, but it wound up being pointless. She didn't do anything at all. Anything. Somebody else captured Varga, too.
>Mr. Wrench murders Emmit in his kitchen for no fucking reason after five fucking years. Let's forget how logistically stupid the murder is for a second (if anybody else walks in, Wrench has to murder them, too, potentially leading to a bloodbath). Emmit's murder made no sense and served ZERO PURPOSE narratively. It wasn't shocking. It wasn't interesting. It was boring. It made me roll my eyes. It ruined the season for me, basically. Everybody who isn't a cop or related to a cop has to die, apparently. How is Emmit being shot in the back of the head for no reason more interesting than him getting his life back together and repairing his relationship with Sy? It's not.

>all these tears
Based Hawley.

>>84211473
Varga poisoned him, went into a coma, next scene we see him he's like that

>>84211758
Unpopular opinion but Emmit and Sy got what they deserved. Emmit was too complacent with Varga's operation. Sy was more than happy to bully Ray but also did nothing about Varga. The entire stamp feud was Swango's creation so she got hers too.

>>84211758
>Gloria Burgle's entire plotline was completely pointless
Remember the story of the robot? Remember that box from the LA episode?

I'll go against the strain and say s03 was really good but worst overall(movie taken into account).
At least season 3 showed just how good season 2 was(despite retarded loud minority that wants to be contrarian =cool).
S02e07(or 8!?,Maggie and butcher in bungalow)is still best single episode in all 3 seasons,50minutes of pure kino.
.
Also,s2 has least filler(if any) episodes.

>>84211995
>Unpopular opinion but Emmit and Sy got what they deserved.

Jesus fucking Christ, Superman, what would you have done?!

>>84212028

I sure do. Are you excusing a pointless plotline because it was deliberately pointless?

>>84208099
Eagle,itv as mentioned.

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Pictured: A pleb filter.

>>84206026

>So we can all agree it was shit except for Varga, right?

Varga was only a decent character due to great acting, this was a shit season for sure, let it end now as it will only get worse.

>>84212077
Not that guy, and Sy & Emmit were way above their league,but they were kina too passive.
Emmit,I get, but Sy should have been a little smarter, that IRS agent could help them, if MEW alone could bring down whole Varga operation.

>>84212120
Not really. Only a few minutes of cartoon paced throughout the entire episode and a few episodes later its meaning it blatantly told rather than letting someone connect the already obvious dots. Pretty tolerable stuff by anyone's standards.
A shitty ending slapped on a rushed 3 final episodes? Now THAT's a pleb filter.

>>84206026
I wouldn't say shit. It was bette than most shows nowadays but, wasn't as good as the first two seasons. I really like Varga and Emmett's (and actors) characters but, I despised Gloria and Swango.

>>84210304
>points out leftist message
>YOU MUST BE A LEFTIST
Not even. You're fucking retarded though if you can't see what Hawley was doing though.

>>84212120

The thing about this season (and the second season of True Detective) is that I like every episode individually leading up into the finale. But when the finale is underwhelming, it makes one wonder why all the shitty pacing and pointless episodes ever existed in the first place.

Some people hate Breaking Bad's finale for actually tying up the plot, as if it was a sin to give the audience closure. I'm starting to wish Fargo did the same thing. Every season's finale has been pointless.

>>84212245

Varga's operation was taken down because everybody in it was a moron. The show takes so much time showing how careful they are by sweeping the building--although they were stupid for going there in the first place--and then they just take the elevator instead of taking the stairs to the third floor.

>>84211105
I understood there was a thematic connection, but there's literally no connection in terms of context that the art was made in.

1984 was written in 1949 by a British socialist about oppressive totalitarian regimes in the USSR and Nazi Germany, not the current U.S. President.

If your point is that great art can be made about oppressive regimes, I don't disagree. My point is that any art that attempts to make the Trump Presidency look like an evil totalitarian machine without any justification or subtlety or argument, it's just gonna be edgy shit like this season was. Hawley literally heard "alternative facts" and ran from there.

It also shows your great idiocy when you think 1984 was written during the goddamn Reagan era- it was a book long before it was a film.

tl;dr you're legally retarded

>>84211903
oh i remember now thanks mate

OH YEAH?
OH YAAAAAH
AW JEEZ
ALRIGHTY THEN
YEAH
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>episode 3 basically spoils the entire season
>HURR WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED? DURR THIS MAKES NO SENSE FUK U HAWLEY U FUKN HAACCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
Never change, /tv/. Never change.

>>84207765
Saul won the case. True, he cratered his reputation with the grannies, but what leads you to believe he wouldn't get paid?

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>>84212513
Okay, buddy.

Also, 3 million illegal immigrants voted in 2016. I know this because the President told me so. So we need to increase the integrity of our voting process, which totally is not a thinly veiled attempt to suppress the vote. No, the integrity of the vote is in no way related to any hacking of our political parties by foreign adversaries, or social media propaganda campaigns from those adversaries, or any potential of collusion between those adversaries and the victories candidate. I know this too because the president told me so. He has very big hands. Also, do not read this article, because it is from the FAKE NEWS Washington post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/world/national-security/obama-putin-election-hacking/

>>84212725
What's the Fargo version of LYNCHED?

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>>84209935
Why are filthy, ill educated Americans always trying to shift a movie full to the brim with Russian culture references into some sort of murrican election thing?

How can the average American be this uncultured when they have all the resources they need to learn about the world they live in?

>>84212822
I like how I've simultaneously been called right wing and left wing in this thread>>84210304

Trump is deceptive, but so is the media. People have been blasting the media for it's left-wing bias long before Trump had any goddamn relevance.

It's idiotic to put your blind faith in any President, and that's why our government has limited that power and given most of it to Congress. It's also idiotic to believe everything the press tells you. there's countless examples of them being deceptive.

Regardless, the difference in this situation is that American democracy has made it so that the media and the President are incongruous i.e. disagreeing with each other at every turn. This is not at all like 1984 or Brave New World where the media is an arm of government propaganda. If anything, the connection is more relevant under Barack Obama than it is under Trump.

Fucking Bernietards.

>>84206037
God, literally
He saved Nikki to punish Varga. Instead she let him go and went after Emmit. Then when Nikki got herself killed God repaired Emmit's car.

>>84207074
He's a sadist. He probably enjoys the pain and the taste of blood in his mouth.

>>84213127
Americans give no fucks about the rest of the world because we don't have to.

We share a border with two countries, one of which is diet America. We have the luxury of the largest military presence in the world. We're not worried about global politics so long as nuclear war doesn't happen.

If we were some shit-tier European country then maybe we'd give a damn.

>>84213196
Fucking clever how she was established as both intelligent and spiritual, how she recognizes a boss when she sees one yet she decides to completly fuck it up and going after Emmit, really in character.

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>>84213147
Look at this image and tell me which side has more people. Don't weasel out by saying "deceptive" when the president tells blatant lies about objective facts which can be googled in three seconds. The 1984 comparison to current American politics is 100% apt. To say the crowd on the right is larger than the crowd on the left is equivalent to saying two and two is five.

>>84213390
Literally who cares? No one is being forced to believe that a million people were attending Turmp's inauguration. It was still the third largest in US history counting TV and online streams (36 million versus 38 million for Obama's first and 42 million for Reagan's first).

This shit can be fact checked by anyone, and the media and Trump continue to disagree on everything- sometimes Trump is wrong and sometimes the media is wrong. If you choose to only believe one side, then you're a fucking plebian who deserves to get fucked by the government.

The fact that people keep comparing this to 1984 is beyond retarded. No one is getting gassed for not believing Trump- no one is being told that war is peace and freedom is slavery. It's just Trump trolling leftists and the media over and over again and/or being boastful.

Hell, the man lied about him having tapes just to make Comey testify more honestly. If there's one dangerous thing about it, it's that it theoretically breaks down trust in the media, but that only works because people didn't trust (and maybe shouldn't trust) the media to begin with. People get their news from a large variety of sources now instead of sticking to one voice, a lot of it from more independent, online providers.

Stop crying wolf anon and maybe take a breather. The world isn't blind slaves for Trump to control- people are smarter than you think.

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>>84213874
>No one is being forced to believe that a million people were attending Turmp's inauguration.

Then why lie about it in the first place?

>>84206037
I didn't understand that part either.

>>84213927
Who cares?

>>84213927
>>84213390
>>84212822
Go to bed Hawley