Is someone really coming?

>>84180925
Emmit dying was part of the 'deal' when swango gave Wrench all the money. Dont know why he waited so long tho, that part was pretty contrived.
No one is coming.

>>84180988
>No one is coming.
Just to expand on this. Varga spent the entire season hyping himself up the other characters as someone who maintained authority, whilst also boasting his mantra of invisibility. He was made out to be this legendary ghost figure that was unforeseeable and all seeing, then at the end we see he was really just an employee of someone who was trying to get what they want. He is a middleman who took advantage of people and made them feel like middlemen.
It's kind of the opposite of the ending of Season 2- Season 2 had someone who knew they were part of the system and aspired to travel up through it, and once he saw the top was disappointed when he realised he was just part of a bgiger machine. Varga thinks he is better than the system and brags about being above the machine, whilst (possibly not knowing) that he is part of it.

>>84180988
Most people assumes its because he learned from Malvo

Can't stand endings like that.

>>84181314
Me too, also Yuri never returned

Incredibly disappointing season.

Never felt like they ever knew where they were going with it.

Varga is gonna disappear in the wind of the air and Yuri Gurka's souls has gone to the afterlife.

>>84182347
Varga gets caught because he is the eagle Ray Wise talks about in the bowling alley who will be brought down by the Lord

>>84180925
Emmit did nothing wrong. He didn't cheat his brother out of the stamps. His brother was just dumb. He didn't cheat on his wife. He didn't kill his brother. It was an accident. Emmit got fucked over all season

>>84182439
Fargo season 3 had a downer ending.

What the fuck was all the sci fi writing crap? And what was the connection to season 2?

>>84182605
>What the fuck was all the sci fi writing crap?
Filler

>And what was the connection to season 2?
Mr Wrench I guess? You realize this is an anthology series, right?

>>84182669
Wrench was season 1. I'm sure I remember reading before the season began that this one would link 1+2 in some way

>>84182690
We see a kid Wrench and Numbers at the end of 2.

That's about the only link.

>>84181079
Varga wasn't part of the system. He was the system.

>>84182605
>>84182669
The sci-fi episode was about Gloria Burgle's character. Throughout the season she goes around trying to help but never really helps anyone, just like the little robot. It's poetry.

Is something fucking wrong with me? Season 2 just isn't gripping me. Given I'm only 2 episodes in, but still, it doesn't have any of the comfiness and charm the first season had at that point

>>84182886
>2 episodes in

Just stop now kiddo

>>84182886
Each season is increasingly less comfy

Fargo character rankings:

>the main villains
Varga > Malvo > Mike

>the main idiots
Lester > Emmit > Peggy

>the main cops
Lou > Molly > Gloria

Can we all agree on this?

>>84182950
ye

>>84182950
On second thought, I'll swap around Lester and Emmit. Lester was the most entertaining main idiot but Emmit was far more sympathetic.

>>84182817
no, it's pointless filler.

I'm entirely convinced they knew that the scifi """"mystery"""" was more interesting than any other idea they had, but didn't know how to tie it into the overarching story. They catfished the viewer with 3/4 episodes of filler and then, "huh, i guess it has nothing to do with anything after all xDD"

>>84182886
1 >>>> 2 > 3

Honestly, just rewatch S1 and forget the series exists.

>>84182950
Yes 100% this

>>84182950
would swap malvo with varga
and gloria with lou

also shit ending. true story with all the facts known but tee hee wont tell ya

>>84183050
>"huh, i guess it has nothing to do with anything after all xDD"
You dumb pleb, it was obviously a reflection of how Gloria would be useless this season. It wasn't even subtle, in the second to last episode Gloria talks about how she feels like the robot. Feel free to shit on the episode but your "it has nothing to do with anything after all" criticism is objectively wrong.

>>84183276
>It wasn't even subtle
Which is why it's useless filler.

>>how Gloria would be useless this season
>having a useless character that contributes nothing but sucking away screen time from the main plot and character arcs
wow great writing!

>>84183333
So you didn't pick up on any of the truth vs. narrative themes that this season had? You completely missed the point of Gloria's character and Varga's character?

>>84182886
Season 2 is fantastic, keep watching. Season 3 is pretty good but it's definitely the weakest season of Fargo. Ignore the plebs who only like season 1, watch every season.

>>84183050
>>84183333
The whole season was basically an argument for the truth resisting the narrative. Varga and Gloria are the representatives of narrative and truth respectively. You can even see that is why Gloria feels so underutilized the whole season, because the truth is often lonely and hard and the narrative is more enjoyable, easier to swallow, more reassuring. Gloria is there as basically a torch in the darkness. Varga even states that the problem is there is good in the world. Gloria is the only good person of the characters, and ultimately the one who won't let Varga go. It is a representation of the struggle between truth and narrative.

The strength of this season's writing really didn't earn this ending and I definitely feel disappointed. I would have loved it if they had earned it, but they really didn't.

I honestly think Hawley had too much Legion on the brain when he put this one together; this season basically boils down to Order vs. Chaos, not Good vs Evil, which is a lofty aspiration, but all it ended up accomplishing was a mantra of something like "The world is filled with random stupidity and cruelty, huh? Oh well, what are you goin' to do about it?".

This wasn't even a anti-climax, like in No Country, it was more of a shug. I don't mind having to literally interpret an ending, but asking your audience to do that only works if everything leading up to it works, and this one just didn't.

Still not bad show, though. Enjoyed a lot. Definitely my lowest ranking season.

>>84184398
The ending was totally deserved. Truth vs Narrative was the main theme this season, and it fit the ending nice

>>84184398
100% agree. Legion's bullshit corrupted Hawley's brain.

Season 2 remains one of the greatest examples of television writing in history.

How did Emmett get away from that highway if he ran out of petrol?

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Varga was the only good thing this season. Such a good character in the middle of a sea of shit.

I honestly can't hate this season, but if I had to describe it, it was a mess. A good looking mess, but still a giant mess, o plot ideas, themes. There's a huge dissonance with the narrative, the ending makes it seem like only Gloria and Varga(s?) matter.

>>84185637
Yeah thewlis and his fuccbois were the best

>>84185730
Yeah, the problem is that it tries to fuck with the clear and unwavering morality, that Fargo, both in the movie and the first 2 season adheres to.

It would be worth it if something powerful came from it, but not only did it go for a non ending, it chose to end on a note that's derivative of a movie Noah thinks we've forgotten.

It was a fun ride, but I feel like this is a telltale sign of the show's decline.

The finale was great, plebs getting filtered left and right.
>>84181314
>>84181372
>>84182272
>>84182605
>>84182669
>>84182886
>>84182941
>>84183050
>>84183091
>>84183254
>>84183333
>>84185637
>>84185730
>>84185929
plebs

Last episode didn't feel like Fargo

>>84185632
This

Has everyone forgotten the 'Peter & The Wolf' undertones?

Emmit is Peter who invites harm by tempting fate and through his naivety.

No-one is coming for Varga, he is the wolf and is now in a zoo.

Ray was the duck who dies as a result of Peter's actions.

>>84185584
>>84186187
fuck. I mean this

What was the point of Sy?

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Why was Lou such a fucking based cop?

He seemed to be the only one to actually get shit done, he had enough balls to go to the ranch and actually stand tall.

Gloria was such a waste, especially with Coon playing her.

Emmit did nothing wrong.

Did MEW get shot in the end because she went off the rails and followed what she believed was the evil, instead of what Jew god told her? I guess that could fall into the Truth vs Narrative theme of the season. Jew god sees all and knows the ambiguity of Ray's death, and MEW follows what she believes.

This season was definitely the weakest so far but I still found it quite charming. I liked the atmosphere a lot, but wish they had done more with the SciFi angle.

This isn't a criticism, but I feel really bad for Sy. Emmit didn't deserve what he got by Sy REALLY didn't deserve his.
But that falls into Gloria's speech of "sometimes the world doesn't make sense", although that is semi-weak writing, but fitting in the themes of the overall series.

S1 - 8.5/10
S2 - 9/10
S3 - 7.5/10

>>84182429
This.

For a bunch of cinema fans you sure are idiots to not recognize simple stuff.

The biggest problem I have is this season had far less intense moments. Season 1 and 2 had me genuinely scared, Season 3 had like 3 moments that I was genuinely tense in

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Shitty season honestly, best bit was first half of episode 8

>Nikki gives Wrench the money and they go their separate ways
>Wrench later finds out a cop took her down, which makes him think they've been found out
>He goes into hiding for years, waiting for the heat to die down
>Once he feels safe, he goes and kills Emmit
Makes sense to me

>>84182950
>'villain'
Varga=Malvo>Hanzee (all were great, Hanzee fits more than Mike though)

>'killers & henchmen'
Mike & Kitchen Bros > Wrench+Numbers > Memeo & Yuri

>police
Lou > Molly > Gloria

>'the clueless'
Peggy > Lestah = Emmit


>

>>84182439
He should have just called 911 and tried to save Ray. He basically made himself a murderer the moment he tried to cover it up.

>>84186930
Honestly Yuri was my favorite Henchman. Never really connected to Wrench and Numbers (On there own atleast)

>>84187044
>and tried to save Ray
there's nothing he could have done. The only thing that could have possibly saved Ray was to not pull the shard out and Emmit told him not to. So he literally did try to save his life.

>>84187149
Yuri was pretty good, he had so much potential storywise that was never used

>>84186930
This desu

>>84180925
The 3rd season is utter shit. Nice ending you fucking hacks.

2 > 1 >>>>>>>>>> 3

>>84180925
Season 3 was great, but it Gloria and Varga's henchmen were shit. Even if they made sense from plot perspective, they were utterly boring.

Still, I loved this season. Varga, Sy and Nikki were awesome.
This season also had a great main theme. I will admit though - season 2 was the most entertaining so far. It just had so many awesome characters.


Y'all have any predictions for the future? When will they set it? How will they connect it to previous seasons?

>>84187919
Season 3 was good. They just used symbolism, the ending actually isn't all that ambigous if you think about it.

I will admit though, it's the weakest season so far and the second one was the best.

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>episode practically ends
>"Okay, that was really underwhelming, but at least Hawley didn't jump the shark like he always does"
>pistol with silencer enters the screen

>>84188014
i heard there might not be any more seasons? cant confirm

>>84188336
he just has no ideas for another season, so nothing has been ordered

if he never gets another idea, there will never be another season
if he does, then there might

>>84188336
>>84188379
He said he's too busy for another season in a year, but to expect one in like 3 years. He also said to stop saying the show is over because he's not done with Fargo.

can someone write the Main themes for each season ?

>>84188404

Why did she do it, lads? ;_;

>>84188429
hot desu

1>2>3

Damn season was shit. 1>2>3
I should have dropped the show after the ayy lmaos. Can't believe that this season was even worse than the last

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>that Sy ending

>>84188682
>should have dropped the show after the ayy lmaos
this, tbq desu with you

Can someone explain phenomena of Hawley to me? Guy writes decent stories, but is completely incapable of wrapping them up.
From all 3 seasons of Fargo I can say only Mike Milligan's arc ended being decent. The rest varied from mediocre to dogshit.

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I really really thought he was coming back

>shoot her
>she's got a gun
>seriously bromes she's going back there to get her gun>you pulled over because we were suspicious, this is the suspicious thing, her gun is I mean
>try to make sure she doesn't shoot us with her gun bro
>maybe shoot her before she shoots you with her gun

nigger deserved it

how do you not outdraw a pump-action shotgun

>american cop not instantly shooting up the place just on principle

suspension of disbelief shattered desu

>>84188834
He's a hack writer from Bones that ripped off superficial depth from the Coen Brothers so stupid people can feel smart for watching terrible television.

>>84188404
:(

got the scene where she almost leaves?

>>84188481
People are dumb and life is random meaningless. Seventh grade nihilism.

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>>84188848
Next season, baby.

>>84189235
There is no next season, it's very sad but he's gone.

>>84188429
>>84188404
>>84188363
She misunderstood Leeland, she supposed to tell that quote and kill Varga, not Emett, that'sw s why she died.

do we agree?

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best girl

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So the 10 minute opening of the first episode had no meaning?

>>84188834
is ther really so many Milligan fan here or you ar the same cuck adoring that nigger every time?

>>84188854
nigga pulled a kyle dinkheller

>>84189084
If fucking hacks like Hawley got a work of showrunner, does that mean I have a chance too? At least supervising and telling people when to stop.

>>84189642
Did you not see the final scene? Did you not pick up on the blatantly prominent theme throughout the whole season?

>>84182950
THIS
H
I
S

>>84189655
I'm not a fan of Milligan, it's just that his arc had really satisfying ending. On contrary with Hanzee-Tripolli dogshit.

>>84189581

she started looking like Aubrey Plaza to me there

>>84189740

not him but n-no

>>84182950
Malvo was too OP/Mary Sue. Master of violance AND master of talking shit to persuade them. His powers were then divided between Hanzee and Varga

>>84189581
MOMMY

>>84188701
Deserved, the self righteous cunt.

Emmit and Ray would've reconciled years ago if it weren't for Sy driving a wedge between them.

Swango prequel spinoff when?

>>84189997
The major theme this season was stories vs truth. A lot of people tell or believe warped versions of reality, whether it be a matter of perspective (Emmit and Ray having different interpretations of the stamps-for-car deal), a means of manipulation (Varga and Yuri telling often-false stories in order to intimidate), simple misunderstanding (Nikki believing Emmit to be an evil murderer), or pure ignorance (asshole chief Dammick refusing to see the truth about the case).

In both the first scene and the final scene, we see an authority figure questioning a suspected criminal. Each person presents their story as truth, and claims the other person's story to be false. The German investigator tells a story of a man murdering his wife in cold blood, while the suspect claims the government has mistaken him for someone else. Gloria claims DHS men are going to walk into the room, handcuff Varga, and take him away to prison forever, while Varga claims he's manipulated the system and will be let go. In both cases, we don't know the actual truth. All that really matters is the story we believe.

>>84180925
What the hell happened to Yuri?

>>84188848
Goran Bogdan was fucking great as Yuri. I heard Last Panthers wasn't that good but I'm gonna watch it for more of him now that Hawley's cucked me out of more Yuri.

>>84188404
>>84188429
>she used birdshot
it's like she wanted to fuck up

>>84190864
S.L,Avfleck

>>84190864
I've been watching it, I like it so far and he's definitely one of the best parts of it anon.

>finale was sh-
please go back and post there
https://www.reddit
,com/r/FargoTV/comments/6iqv5k/fargo_s03e10_somebody_to_love_post_episode/

>>84191003
holy shit, nice website!

thanks!

>>84190848
He died in the woods (bled out from the ear, probably). He didn't get a chance at redemption because he murdered his gf. Wrench and Nikki both killed people but they never killed a loved one.

>>84190976
Good to hear!

When do we get our

Varga vs Hanzee vs Mr Wrench Season?????

Anyone else think the finale was really dark? like the bad guy gets away with everything
what a world

>>84191119
Nigga, the only one that won was Wrench. And he still got cucked by a dead guy. A fat dead , balding guy. You can't call that winning.

You seriously buy into Varga's bullshit, after it's revealed that he's just a middleman, who's only real weapon is spewing bullshit?

Nobody's coming through that door.

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>hawley said in an interview Wrench fell in love with Nikki

>>84191245
source?

>>84191225
When the fuck is it revealed he's a middleman?

>>84191273
forgive me for exaggerating, but the fact he's speculating about this pisses me off

>And I have a good sense of why Nikki can't let get of what Emmit did, but why do you think Mr. Wrench can't let go?

>Well, I mean, he probably fell in love with her a little bit, don't you think? Wouldn't you? The last time we saw Mr. Wrench [in the present], his partner had been killed and it was clear that that was meaningful to him. I firmly believe that if Malvo had lived, he would have seen Mr. Wrench again. I do feel like there's a degree to which he fell in with Nikki and then, at the end of it, Nikki showed him she was an honorable person. He kept all the money and she just wanted justice and she never got that justice. So I think that to the degree that he had any kind of code, he was coming. One way or another.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/fien-print/fargo-season-3-finale-explained-1015844

>>84191225
goldfarb won though

>>84191653
She's about to get royally fucked by the IRS. And even if she escapes any criminal prosecution she'll still lose the business she took from Emmit and she'll have wasted whatever she paid Varga for his help.

>>84190535
Yeah the story is that this show has substance but the truth is that it has nothing to say and is a poorly written mess. I discovered this when the word story from "this is a true..." lingered on screen each episode.

anyone else felt the late episodes were rushed? The start was really slow and then they killed interesting characters without doing much with them

I really don't understand why they wanted us to start rooting against Emmet at the end.

>>84181079
Youre retarded. Goldfarb worked for varga not the other way around

>>84183618
Writing a character with no payoff on purpose when you could have had her end with a great conclusions is not clever, its bad writing

>>84186193
Except gloria was said to be peter retard

>>84192186
t. Varga

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you guys think her ex faps to this scene?

>>84192753
i did

>>84192753
he probably wishes that that was him right now

>>84188014
>Y'all have any predictions for the future? When will they set it? How will they connect it to previous seasons?
I hope they expand on that throwaway comment from Season 2: "Oh Christ, it's like Rapid City all over again." Let's get some interwar gangster shit going on.

>>84189531
100%

>>84192949
next Fargo will be in the future, silly. Probably some retarded Mars colony

>>84190535
>In both cases, we don't know the actual truth.
We do know the truth in the first instance, though. The German government was mistaken, because the guy they were looking for - Yuri - is one of Varga's henchmen. Therefore the guy they pulled in wasn't the guy who strangled his girlfriend.

>>84180925
>>84180925

>Shot of the clock
>Cut to Gloria smiling
>Pan over to Varga as his smug expression slowly turns into fear as he realises that no one's coming
>Cut to black

That's all you needed to do Hawley.

>>84193010
>Cyberpunk Fargo
Would it be good?

>>84193112
Why would he spoil the ending like that? The best of that scene was Gloria's confidence beginning to waver. You don't want to undercut that with an actual answer.

the next season should be all about varga
the simply can't top a villain like him

>>84189581
Anybody ggot a Webm of Coon on the popsicle?

>>84185989
I loved the show and the finale but you sound like a cunt

>>84191225
I don't know, when IRSfag said his investigation was being blocked from high levels in DC, I'm guessing they might send someone through the door.

>>84188848
Are you fucking stupid? The alley was obviously some sort of Limbo, and Wrench and Swanko got judged favourably so they got out while he, being a war criminal, got judged as such and thus got condemned to staying / to go to hell
Why the fuck would you think after that that he's coming back?

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>>84188834

This. All three seasons peaked at episode 8.

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>>84193176
nope, sry. but have this instead.

>>84192128
I don't think they did
Throughout, Emmet is presented as a good man who just gets caught up in all this bullshit, but unlike some of the other seasons' people in that situation, he tries to really hang onto his principles. Even in the end, he stays defiant of the bad all throughout despite it feeling hopeless and him feeling tired. I don't see how you could say that. Yeah, Nikki wanted him dead but that's just because she didn't know the situation. And Wrench just wanted to fulfill Nikki's wish. We the audience can understand that, but I don't think we're ever supposed to root against Emmet, especially because he confesses that the trick he pulled with the stamp all those years ago was probably a dick move.

>>84183952
The Coens are kikes and Hawley isn't

Ok so I just finished the ending. This show went from ok beginning, then good middle, then kino 7-9, then ok ending.

S2>S1>S3

>>84193346
Wu Tang band

Another solid season from Fargo. Hope there's a 4th.

>>84193233
>I don't know, when IRSfag said his investigation was being blocked from high levels in DC
when did he say this?

>>84193613
>CIA stance
>big guy

>>84193712
during his conversation with Gloria dumb Spee D. Watcher

>>84193810
I rewatched the scene and he didn't. Not on the phone, not in situ.

>>84180988
>Emmit dying was part of the 'deal' when swango gave Wrench all the money.

I assumed that Wrench just killed Emmit out of revenge because he knew Nikki wanted him dead by her own hand, but got dead herself.

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>>84193899
Oh, do you know Latin?

>>84193899
I remember him saying it, I think he was talking about his initial investigation, before he got the drives.

>>84193989
That makes no sense, he contacted Gloria after he got the package.

>>84193971
Do (You)?

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There are a lot of things in this season that play like Schrodinger's cat. It ended up being the most important concept of the season.

Gloria is the main Schrodinger's cat of the story. She starts out being both married and not, being both chief and not, being feminine and not, her case is constantly "solved" while it's not - and of course, electronics often don't seem to recognize her. It's only when Winnie looks into the box in episode eight and gives her self-worth that she stops being ambiguous and becomes confident.

Varga is her antithesis because he abuses this ambiguity to his advantage, to not be on the radar, to not be noticed anywhere. He exists, but he feeds lies to people to pretend that he doesn't, and so he doesn't.

In the end, Gloria and Varga end up in Schrodinger's box together in a perfect final scene - and until someone opens that door, they're both right.

>>84194020
Yeah, but he looked into them before, didn't he? The first time he audited them.

>>84193899
fuck you, made me check to shut your lying ass down

He says it fairly early into the episode/phonecall, around the 4 minutemark

>How did you get this number
>Again, it was on the note you sent, spreadsheets, contracts, own agreements - not sure how you found me. He's protected I think, mr Stussy, possibly even at the highest levels, my investigation was kiboshed last year from D.C. so we should proceed with the utmost-

>>84194056
He had no conversation with Gloria back then.

>>84193613

>Nikki tells Gloria to "follow the money"
>Gloria immediately forgets her advice until she gets the IRS call 3 episodes later.

>>84194140
>kiboshed
that explains why I missed it
fucking burgers and their kikespeak

>>84194142

"He's protected Mr. Stussy, possibly at the highest levels. My investigation was kiboshed LAST YEAR by DC."

>Larue Dollard
>IRS agent
pottery

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>>84194052
What do you think?

>>84194192
honestly I had to turn the subtitles on in the rewatch to transpose that word, but when watching it the first time I got the gist of it and understood what they meant from the context even if I didn't catch the word. You're a fucking autist.

>>84194291
I'm not a native speaker

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>>84193298
No no no no no wrong wrong wrong wrong. Episode 8 of season 1 was that shitty timeskip episode with the 10 minute african kid monologue at the end. Season 1 peaked at episode 9, otherwise I agree.

>>84193346
Thanks - was scouring the Leftovers threads for this

>>84194326
Neither am I, but being on the internet for half my life and all english stuff getting dubbed in my country, not subbed, has helped I suppose

>>84193679
Hoping for an old-timey western Fargo season 4 like Deadwood or Bone Tomahawk

What was the point of the russian in the opening of episode 1?

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S1 > S2 > Movie > S3
Lester Nygaard and Lorne Malvo a best

>>84194782
every time I see someone ask this I lose braincells

>>84191118
Hanzee's dead

Boring season overall. Disliked the officers, Nikki+Wrench and the meme assassin guys.

next female officer should be transgender tbqhwy

>>84188848
you fuck with g-ds chosen people you get the limbo goy

>>84193613
YOU JUST KNOW

>>84194817
Movie >>> s2 > s1 >>> s3

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>>84193346
I can help!

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just admit it bros, nobody came to save him. he never looked as miserable as he did in the last 5 minutes of the show

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>surname is a literal racial slur
Why is this allowed?

>>84189531
yes. but it still wasn't a good conclusion

>>84194055
It's kind of like how this show is a piece of shit but everyone claims it's deep as hell because they don't know how to open the box.

>>84193613
>>84194179
>she finally follows the money
>does nothing related to money after that
bravo hawley

>>84195743
Everyone forgets that 5 years have passed from the events that took place. He has had time to expand and make connections for a very long time. Of course he gets away, Gloria can't do shit with those flimsy accusations. The IRS went after that woman Gold something, not Varga.

>>84195743
He's a money man. Money men like him have been getting away with it for hundreds of years. Gloria's idea of America as a land of unerring justice is hideously naive. In reality, she was probably shitcanned from her job and murdered by Varga for being a nuisance and loose end.

>>84189581
Looks like Judy Hops from Zootopia

>>84195919
(((Goldfarb)))

>>84188404

>doesnt use the vehicle as cover

dumb bitch

>>84194651

God I hope so. The setting would allow Coen mysticism to make more sense and would serve as a better vehicle for Hawley to tell an entertaining story. Plus it opens a window for the more comedic tone adopted from most of the Coens' period films.

>>84180925
Honestly, the episode should have ended after swango and emmit's confrontation. It left stuff open, but I still felt satisfied enough, and I realized I really had no more desire for "wrapping up" the remaining plotlines. The only vaguely interesting thing in the second half was listening to Varga monologue for a bit.

Protip for anyone about to call me a pleb: there a difference between leaving a story open-ended/unresolved and simply deleting the last page of the script. The ending was lazy almost ruined the season.

>>84189642
I thought it was just a take on the Dybbuk opening of "A Serious Man". Either you debate the meaning behind it, or simply accept that the directors/writers put it in for no real narrative purpose.

I think in the case of 'A Serious Man', the Coen brothers said they put it in to establish a tone for the rest of the film.

>>84198053
Ending it after the confrontation would be deleting the last page of the script. The last part of Varga possibly escaping because justice isn't as fair as we like fits as an ending.

>>84185584

Wondered the same thing.

>>84198622
My idea wouldn't be a great ending, I admit, but there was nothing worth telling after that point. The entire Varga scene was written like a buildup to either his imprisonment or escape, but it's plainly obvious early on that they're not gonna show which, so there was no suspense. It just felt like filler wrapped up with a cheap "muh ambiguous ending" gag that wasn't pulled off well at all.

In my opinion Varga wouldn't be saying such shit while in custody if he didn't know for a fact he'll be released.

This is not the type of situation you can bluff out of.

Also I find it supremely stupid that Gloria would brag about how she's going to spend time with her family knowing full well she's talking to a guy that can send assassins that can fuck her up life beyond repair.

>>84198053
>almost

>>84195743
He's fucking Varga. A man that came out of nowhere, borrowed some random company a million dollars without asking a questions, defrauded them for 200 million dollars, and disappeared into nowhere again. You've got to be a fool to think a man like that gets caught, ever.

>>84198053
The ending was the perfect ending. Perfectly encapsulated the season and its themes. Best ending for Varga honestly

>>84193931
You assumed right. She was literally on her way to kill him, it wasn't apart of the deal. I don't know what that guy you quoted is talking about

I for one was hoping to see Emmit break into tears and end up teaming up with Nikki, and why not, fucking her

>>84199954
I was hoping for Emmit to shoot Varga and have an everyone dies scene in the house a la Scarface. At least it would be dignified.

>>84189581
Anyone else think she transformed into Marge gunderson, looks wise and personality?

>>84200634
Not at all. Are you fucking retarded

Is Varga Soros? I mean, Hungarian name, changes his name, etc.

>>84200716
Okey den

>>84200716
I meant she looks like marge gundetson not that she became her. Just that she's like a spiritual successor, similar type of woman you know

>>84188363
>When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk

>>84201071
Vulture capitalist too

>>84199036

I dunno, I'm starting to think that the ending to Fargo season 3 is about as ambiguous as The Sopranos finale, and only tards are still confused as to what happened because the three neurons they still have firing are devoted to sperging out and recycling shitty memes in a sad parody of actual critique.

There's lots of clues in the final scene as to the "true" ending if you care to look.

Here's a little hint, for the fuckwits in the audience:


Gloria tells Varga he'll be eating cold mash potato in a dark cell. What's the last thing we see of Varga before the scene cuts to Gloria? Darkness falling on Varga's face, obscuring him.

Here's a second hint, for the retards who are too busy nursing their own butt-flusteration:

The last text which a sweating, nervous Varga gets before he vanishes, and then flees the states for five years, says simply that the "IRS have the drives. Get out."

Join the dots, you stupid motherfucker.

>>84189581
This, Nora's the best

>>84201294
Those "hints" could well be red herrings

>>84201294
>DHS
>IRS

Nah, he's walking scot-free. That is, free from McGregor.

>>84180925

What was Varga's end game? He cons businesses out of hundreds of millions of dollars, and then what? The guy is obviously not into the millionaire lifestyle.

http://deadline.com/2017/06/fargo-season-3-finale-spoilers-noah-hawley-future-shows-1202117731/
>But for Hawley, the cliffhanger ending tonight stems from “Our living in a complicated moment in time,” he says, referring to the President Donald Trump era.
The hack is also a hill shill, it checks. Also the "Chapter 11 bankruptcy" line felt a bit too familiar.

>>84201431

Nice pun game.

>>84201294
nikki told him the IRS had the drives so he would come back down the elevator you dunce. youre the real moron who thinks there's supposed to be an ending and not that the ENTIRE POINT OF THE SEASON is that there is not a true ending and we will never get one

>>84201478

thats like asking whats malvos end game

malvo is war, the pale horseman

varga is greed, capitalism untamed

>>84201383

There's more. There's Varga stating with conviction the certainty of the future - only for his future to be left completely uncertain. There's Gloria's smile, the persistently empty corridor.

But above all that - the speech Varga uses to ensnare Emmit is "mongol hordes with pitchforks" coming to take the wealth of the rich.

It's a lie, and Emmit eventually refutes it, turning it round on Varga and saying "there's no Mongol hordes, it's just you!"

But ya know who really won't let anything get in the way of taking their money once they're left with a trail?

The U.S government. Oh, sure, there's tons of tax avoiders living in the U.S today, filthy with lucre - but none of them have had their finances traced and proven.

Al Capone. The one unforgivable crime is tax avoidance. The IRS have the drives. Varga won't go down for the murders, or the lives he's destroyed. He'll go down for the only crime that matters - money.

>>84193346
this ruins the mommy

>>84201590

The entire point of the ending is that we have to choose - same with the Sopranos. But that doesn't mean there isn't a likely outcome.

You're a fucking retard though, so by all means stick with your brainless non-interpretation, and sure - continue to try to pretend it's "intended."

>>84201626
>the persistently empty corridor
they focused on the clock and the 5 minutes never passed

>>84201626
>It's a lie, and Emmit eventually refutes it, turning it round on Varga and saying "there's no Mongol hordes, it's just you!"
But he enriched Emmit, Emmit was literally wrong. And the hordes are coming.
>The U.S government. Oh, sure, there's tons of tax avoiders living in the U.S today, filthy with lucre - but none of them have had their finances traced and proven.
Even IRS guy basically admitted they could do nothing. And the DHS doesn't look for tax evasion.

>>84201660

That empty corridor is a motif. If Varga had nothing to fear, he wouldn't have fled the States for five years.

>>84201681

>Even IRS guy basically admitted they could do nothing. And the DHS doesn't look for tax evasion.

No he didn't. Watch shows better. All he says is that they have to "proceed with caution" to prevent the investigation being shut down...which they do, ya know.

>>84201658

>i am a pleb

no we dont have to fucking choose, the point isn't what happens to the characters, its what the characters represent

>>84201681

The DHS perform border checks for criminals. Also:

https://www.dhs.gov/topic/fraud-and-counterfeiting

what was the point of this season?

>>84201707
So Varga walks away scot free and doesn't get caught as you said.

shit show
shit writing
shit fans
shit actors
shit everything

>>84201713

You don't have to choose, but you're invited to choose, because that's what art's fucking about, you absolute fucking shit-for-brains.

But no, you're right. The screen goes black in The Sopranos because the film ran out. It's not intentional at all, it's not inviting interpretation. It's just making a statement about black screens, and the statement is - "sometimes programmes end in them".

Think you should black screen yourself desu

>>84201778
>because that's what art's fucking about
wrong

>>84201768

>doesn't get caught

Nope, he gets caught, that's why he's in an interrogation room - 'cos he got caught, ya know? He's about to be cuffed and sent to Riker's.

>>84193157
>>84193112
It shouldve ended with the door opening but unable to see who was entering just a slow creek before credits

>>84201796

>wrong

Wrong!

>no mew panties all season
kms

>>84201778

nah, that's the child's way of thinking

>but THEN what happened mom?

it doesnt much matter how tony dies, or what happens to varga, what matters is the characters and the ideas they represent

think of any great novel or film, 90% of them dont end with exact resolutions, this is just a more dramatic version of it

>>84201802
He isn't, there's no proof of any wrongdoings on his part. The only one saying he's Varga and not an accountancy software salesman from Belgium is Gloria, and her claims will get about as much attention as James Woods' warning about the arab fellas behaving weirdly in first class who then went and crashed those planes into the Twin Towers with no survivors.

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What was the point of saying that the drives were on the second floor when Wrench ambushed them on the third floor and Nikki was waiting on the first floor?

>>84201882
so they would stand waiting for the elevator while Wrench mowed them down

>>84201882

false sense of security, they had already cleared the 3rd floor so thought there was no threat until they got to the 2nd floor

Who sent the text to Vargas? Goldfarb?
Who sent the sheets to the IRS? Nikki? If so Why would she do it for free?

>>84193346
aa-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-eer--a-ar-ra--ra-ar-a-ewreareaererrearereeee those abaababababababababbbbbbbbbs?

Whast did the VM stand for?

>>84203508
very mean :(

>>84203508
Vulture/Manager

>>84182950

Peggy was a lot more interesting than Emmit and had nice tits.

>>84203635
They were both very well done. Don't get the hate for Emmit

>>84182439
he is 100% complicit in what happened to Sy, come on mang

>>84188429

Is MEW part Asian?

>>84189581

I want to protect that smile.

>>84203739
How so? He likely didn't know what Varga was going to do.

>>84188429

Poor Nikki...

>>84203667

I like Emmet too, but I think Peggy was a more original character and had nicer tits.

>>84189642
yeah this season had nothing to do with bureaucratic denial, mistaken identity, or objective truth vs. speculative reality right?

pleeeeeeeeb

>>84191324
god damn why do you fuckers refuse to surmise?

>>84191721
Anon, there was a timeskip. She didn't get royally fucked by anyone.

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>>84192753
kek
>>84192801
this
some chick on instagram called him a "sad hipster boy" and he's been mourning about that for at least 2 days. With typos.
>>84193010
>I can help
>>84193122
It wouldn't, Hawley lost his mojo after S1 and became a hack with no hope of redemption.

>>84199855
The thing is, he's still just a con man.
Why would he hold any political clout?
He's a bullshit mage. If you don't believe his bullshit, he has no power over you. It's exemplified by the scene where Stussy has the gun on him earlier in the same episode.

Or to put it in esoteric terms: If Gloria doesn't believe anybody will come, it's not going to happen.
The show ends before we know whether her will is strong enough.

>>84201773
here's that (you) you wanted

>>84193346
no 1260p version?

Wow that scene at the start of the first episode makes so much sense now.

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>>84205731
>he didnt realize it by episode 3

>>84205731
>>84205763
was he just another of Vargas victims? i dont get it

>>84205785
>was he just another of Vargas victims?

No. He was Yuri's.

But the actual point of the scene was to establish the theme of the season: Truth vs interpretation vs lies.

>>84205862
>No. He was Yuri's.
lol wat

>>84186589
Yeah I think that's why.
Mew was chosen to do good, she was to avenge Ray and take down Verga but as soon as she killed good not evil (the cop) she was smitted down and thus the job was left to Mr. Wrench.

>>84188157
So true, ruined the end of Emmit's arc for me.

>>84203508

Virtual Machine.

>>84205883
>lol wat

The guy who's accused of murdering his wife in the 80s is accused of being a 'Yuri Gurka'. We find out that Yuri Gurka is the Cossack who works for Varga.

>>84183050
I personally belive an episode devoted to wrench and MEW bonding and learning about each other would have 10 times better. Still would have been filler but at least it would have been realted to intresting characters.
Episode was very comfy, but really pointless. And really disliked heavily hammered methaphore with the robot.

>>84192266
This
>d-don't you get it? The character was an allegory!
Don't give a fuck. The character can serve multiple purposes in a story; tepresent an idea, be a reference, be a self-insertion, whatever.But if it us not intesting everything falls flat.
Gloria sucked. I skipped the final dialogue with her son.

>>84193446
This. Emmet was not a horrible person.
But you cant really feel sorry for him

>>84205996
same
I wish he could have teamed up with MEW after letting her know the truth though. Too bad about the meddling nigger.
>be emmit
>after the "yesterday I thought I could go lower" speech, continue with this:
>ray actually killed himself, I went to give him the stamp but he wouldn't accept it and there was a quarrel in which we'd push the framed stamp against each other until it broke -he took a shard to the carotid and despite me telling him to not take it out he did. The only thing I did wrong was calling Varga to clean up instead of owning up to it but I panicked and still couldn't have possibly saved him.
>I didn't poison Sy, Varga did, but it was my fault for falling for Varga's lies and evading him
>if not for Varga you would have never been beaten up and Ray would probably be alive, although we could be still fighting for the stamp. I wanted to give it to Ray but Sy didn't want me to.
>look, shoot me now if that's what you want. I probably deserve it for being a spineless naive moron. I'd like to get Varga though. Ray and Sy would be alive if not for him. *kneels* My life is yours now. Kill me or join me.
>Nikki realizes he dindu nuffin and redeems herself too
>They track down Varga and put him down, same with the Goldfarb widow.

>>84198053

To be honest, i'm torn. I want to love it and I want to hate it. But I do appreciate Hawley for doing something different wit the ending by simply implying the bad guy may have gotten away.

But I still feel underwhelmed. I loved Meemo and to see him getting fucked off offscreen feels unfair to me. But Yuri got killed offscreen as well so...

Mr. Wrench was in first, second and third seasons. Is he immortan?

WHERE THE FUCK WAS JIM GAFFIGAN? I JUST NOW REALIZED

>>84206727
no he wasnt

>>84206829

Yes he was

>>84206829
>no he wasnt

He was in through most of season 1. He appears briefly as a kid in the last episode of season 2 (thus implied that he and Numbers were proteges of Hanzee). And of course there's his bit in season 3.

>>84187308
This argument doesn't hold up in a court of law, or a court of ethics.

>>84195605
s2 > s1 > movie > s3

>>84206029

yuri doesn't look that old considering we're seeing him thirty years later

>>84207169
>yuri doesn't look that old considering we're seeing him thirty years later

It happens in the late 80s. And yeah, if we go by the actor's age, he'd be a kid when that happened. Unless they mean to imply that Yuri is older than his actor.

>>84206727
Yes, he's Justice, the arm of God, His Sword, Vengeance, the unfaltering, invisible, silent weapon of Balance.

>>84207267
He's made the kill in Eastern Germany at 16-17, he's like 46 in Fargo, not that incredible to believe.

>>84207267
>>84207169
they also said his fathers were psychos like that as well, so it could'v been his father who kiled the woman in the opening

>>84207435
>they also said his fathers were psychos like that as well, so it could'v been his father who kiled the woman in the opening

The woman's name was Helga. He confirms that he knew a Helga to Golem when they were hunting Wrench and Nikki.

Meemo was only injuried,right?

>>84187044
How Ray died is my biggest gripe with this season, way bigger than the ending

>pushing a framed stamp and accidentally smashing it against someone's forehead can totally make it so a glass shard ends up in their neck
Shit was retarded and Ray didn't deserve such an absurd death after all he went through

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>I'm supposed to believe this scrawny-ass white boy is a hardened Russian hitman

>>84208401

he looks like the average barely-human slav

>>84208401
stfu niger

>>84181079
Gloria and Varga are Peter and the Wolf.

Remember what happens to the Wolf.

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It would have been a 10/10 if at the end of episode Minsky had come through the door, saying "I can help."

>>84206501
Yuri is most likely alive, mark my words the next season will have someone accidentaly kicking a box on the street and out will a kitten jump. This will be the reintroduction of Yuri.

wtf is DHS anyway? never heard of that 3 letter acronym ever (fuckin americans are possesed with these?).

>>84208892
Dakota Homeland Security?

>>84208892
>>84208914
Department of Homeland Security.

I thought it was really nice how much Nikki cared about Ray. I totally thought at the beginning of the season that she was just playing him.

>>84188429
hot
I rubbed one off t bh

>>84189642
Final scene and Yuri was actually the one who killed the girl.

>>84192753
Never have anyone with a bullet hole in their head looked cuter.

>>84207169
Yuri is supposed to be like 42

>>84201478
didn't he have some kind of plan and talked about becoming invisible rich?

1. acquire enormous wealth
2. ???

>>84208675
damn, yes.

Really liked how they wasted Swango's arc

>>84210454
Never has.

>>84188854
>black man shooting an unarmed white woman
Doesn't matter if he was a cop he still would've been assmangled.

>>84205763
Honestly. Episode 3 pretty much spoiled the entire season and people didn't get it. Fuck this board is retarded.

>>84208675
Fuck that would've been one hell of a shitstorm.