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I wanted to see him bleed

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I wanted to see him bleed
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>>84169377
I wanted to see him succeed
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I wanted to see him feed.. on los pollos hermanos, available in your area from 11am to 2am.
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Varga said the future is certain and that he would be let out.
But the ending directly contradicts this, leaving the future uncertain, meaning his confidence was in fact a bluff and it's likely possible he is now locked away.
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>>84169920
forgot to add 'bravo noah' to my post
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>>84169377
the whole "quippy mysterious sudointellectual British villain" thing got old

final scene in the interrogation room where he kept going on and on about the future and the past and all that stupid bullshit... what a stupid smug fuck
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>>84169986
>sudointellectual
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>>84169377
Fuck this goddamn fucking show, I love it so much. It leaves me wanting yet I can't help but continue to beg for more. Fuck you, Noah Howley.
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>>84170149
clearly it's because he was a linux user :^)
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>>84169377
he bleeds plenty from his gums
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>>84170149
>Ghnuexwuyrd
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>>84169377
I wanted to see him seed Gloria, if you know what I mean ;^)
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>>84169377
some "idiots" wanted to see hanzee bleed
SOME "idiots" wanted to see malvo bleed

this season villian was just dark and not even funny
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>>84169377
so no one noticed that she used a walkie talkie for the interrogation instead of a recorder right?

>>84170354
they did tho
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>>84170354
Malvo is still, and always will be the GOAT
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I've never wanted to see a character die more. Why couldn't Hawley just have shot straight with this season and skipped the whole ambiguous ending bullshit.

EVERY viewer wanted to see him die or get locked up. NO ONE wanted his fate left up to chance or personal belief.

Not only that but the last 10 minutes was the biggest load of shit ever.
>MEW going full retard in shooting the cop after meticulously planning revenge against Varga/Emmitt
>Varga just disappearing in the elevator. Why was he so fearful then?
>Sy being comatose for the rest of his life
>Wrench waiting 5 years to kill Emmitt for no real reason.


Fuck Hawley and fuck Varga.

I'm livid, lads.
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this season was the most ambiguous
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>>84170409
if i didnt just dfinish that part i would of reported ur faggot asss
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>>84170409
>Wrench waiting 5 years to kill Emmitt for no real reason.
Hawley said Wrench killed Emmit because he was in love with Nikki.
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>>84170409
Varga got locked up.
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>>84170440

>browsing an obvious spoiler thread while watching the show
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>>84170409
>best served cold
Why are so many people here so stupid?
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>>84170474

If the show's creator has to elaborate on why something happened then was it incorporated very well into the show itself? There was no indication Wrench had feelings for Nikki. Maybe a sense of honor and mutual respect (She gave him 99% of the money and only wanted to avenge Ray) but love?

>>84170479

Proof?
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> vegetable Sy is totally gonna kill Emmit!
> (5 seconds later) pew pew
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is this soposed to be funny its just sad other season of fargo would of made him becoming a cripple into something funny but its not its sad and depressing
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>>84170502

No I "get" what Hawley was going for. I just didn't find it narratively satisfying.
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>>84170409
pic related is the real reason fucking idiot
you're telling me you wouldn't kill for MEW?
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>>84170535
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/fien-print/fargo-season-3-finale-explained-1015844

Nikki proved herself to be an honorable person to Mr. Wrench and he fell in love with her. There you have it.
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>>84170592
i fuck that bullethole in her head so hard
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>>84170409
Also:
>Emmit pulls over because his car breaks down
>Emmit easily drives away in same car
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>>84170625
God did that.
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>>84170479
>y
>>84170535
he is living happily every after and emmit is dead

> the past is unpredictable

> Witch one of us can say with certainty what has occurred
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>>84170535
>>84170648
>Varga gives a speech about how the future is certain
>seconds later ending leaves it uncertain
I think Noah is trying to give us a hint, is all.
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>>84170604
He loved her so much that he waited five years for vengeance?
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>>84170666

The pussy game is ridiculous, Satan.
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>>84170666
it wasnt love
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>>84170625
It probably overheated
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>>84170697
no the way the set it up it look like niki made it shut down
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>>84170666

Cops had his photo, Satan. He was lying low.

Best answer I can think of
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VARGA WON
just from the look on her face she knew how it worked

REALITY IS SUBJECTIVE when it comes to the POV of humans
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I feel like they came up with two different finales, first Nikki gets Varga as Ray Wise suggested, the second is the one we got, fact is that they kept the part where Nikki redeems herself but then they made her fuck up out of character to get the True Story Gimmick
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this isn't the first episode where they have not shown you whats really going on, u never see the fights your spose to just believe she planned all this stuff and it went down just like it was planned. doesn't show anyone getting killed. u seriously telling me that idiot goes in with that many bodyguards and doesn't even have spotters outside of the area, or anything it really makes no sense. shes shown him multiple times how smart she can be why continue to keep making the same mistakes. terrible writing. shit makes no sense half the time. actually spose to believe mew could pull that shit off varga basically let her fuck him just so the show could be interesting.
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From the 4+4Chan /tv/ thread.

>nikki sneaks into emmit's house completely empty house and places a stamp on his head, so that she could lure him onto a public road and talk to him in a highly visible area for 10 minutes while holding a giant shotgun. before this, she bamboozled an international criminal hit crew and had several other master plans go without a hitch.

>emmett's car breaks down or runs out of gas, but works again because the plot called for it

>lady cop burgle is literally invisible and had no impact on the story whatsoever.

>Single man taking out a mastermind hit squad, while the storage unit he is in slowly opens, which gave the entire squad about 10 seconds to react and potentially take him out

>Emmett signing papers haphazardly that practically gives his entire company away

>That entire scene in the middle of nowhere

>That reveal that MEW somehow got access to all these papers that incriminated Emmett and Varga

>HE'S A KITTEN, MY RAY

>chink bodyguard being built up as an autistic ballerina badass for the entire season. does absolutely nothing and gets killed off-screen.
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>>84170826
you should go back to that den of retards you call home
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>>84170826
sorry, but literally where?
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>>84170826
whoChan?
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>>84170406

>Fargo will never be as good as season 1

fuck man. I forgot about

>Aces!
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>>84170826
asian looked alive in that last shoot. why not cover his body if hes dead. the stamp could of been left by Varga before he fucked off but they dont show mew or varga doing it. yea that vehicle thing is a joke. Dur hur god did it, dur hur it over heated even though they dont show this. but yes i agree this show is fairly shit, it had some interesting charecters and some nice lolz parts but in general its a peice of shit that things happen becuase the writers need them to so the plot can move forward no matter how much it makes no sense. also they never show things like how they found the asian guy holding sniper rifle or how she knew what to get from truck and exactly how she used it and printed off all these Irs things, shits super weak. s2>s1>my shit>s3
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>>84170409

sy wasn't comatose, he responded "good as new !"
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>>84170826

>Yes, this is convoluted and dumb. Why didn't she just break in his house?

>Yeah who knows.

>That's kinda the point though.

>Wrench is just that good.

>Emmett is a complete idiot but it's not like he had a choice in the matter when it came to the papers. Varga had a dozen guys in his house.

>I'll never forgive Noah for doing wrong by MEW.

>Did you just fall asleep during the entire scene where her and Wrench got the documents from Varga's truck last episode?

>She was mentally ill and believed the Wandering Jew. Remember all her chi bullshit?

>Meemo wasn't even that great. He fucked up a lot in the last episode.
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>>84170619

Ok pajeet
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>>84170919

You sound autistic, do you need everything shown to you?
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>>84170929
>he responded "good as new !"

But he wasn't "good as new". In fact he was much worse off than before. Oh that Noah Hawley. They told me that after 9/11 irony would be dead.
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>>84170987
no but they hide so much stuff and ur spose to just believe this would go down this way or would ever happen this way. they have been doing this since s1 but in this season i have found it to be a huge eye soar and it makes the story make no sense im actually spose to believe these things went down exactly like this.
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>>84170987
I am more annoyed that it just seems like lazy writing. There trying to make something special by cutting corners, just really ruins the viewing experience for me.
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>>84169377

I thought it was pretty weird how they waited until the last episode to reveal Vargas had the ability to turn into a Force Ghost from Star Wars.
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>>84170474

For some reason I assumed Wrench was gay.
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>>84171117
thats why the camerea looked up showing u he went up the elevator.
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>>84170409

Is MEW part Asian?
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>>84171135
Why? Because he's deaf?
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>>84170409
Mew was the shittiest character this season

Turned from a nobody to fucking somebody who can catch bullets, do sign language, understand tax law, a navy seal and heal fucking damage ala Jesus-sama from Mahouka the only thing missing was ressurecting for the dead, oh wait this show done that as well fuck this show.
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>>84171161
don't start shit
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>there was no salad in the fridge

What the fuck?
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>>84171201
I think it was that nasty jello looking thing
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>>84171137
dicks in the ear is the #1 cause of deafness
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He should have died here.
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How did Varga escape?

>took off jacket
>disappeared

spooky
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>>84171260

It was one of those anime jackets that weigh 5000 pounds to limit his powers. Once he took it off he could clear the building in a single leap. Nothing personnel, MEW.
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>>84171260
He hid in that little cubby in elevators where they keep a phone in case of emergencies
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>>84171260
elevator trap door was open.
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>>84171011
>>84170805
you really type like a retard. you've gotta work on that.
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>>84171299
>>84171260
he was on lvl 2 u idiots.
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>>84171260
he teleported
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>>84171313
i really dont care what anyone else thinks of my typing on this baord im trying to talk about a tv show. if i cared how i typed id write essays for fun.
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>>84170990
That's the point. It's a joke.
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>>84171317
>lvl 2
>somehow escaped when le killer man and le mary sue

so he jumped from lvl 2 to another city?
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>>84171362
they were on g lvl. got the money walked out the door and left? idk i never said this show was written well.
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>>84171201
It was a metaphor. The fridge symbolized the show and the salad symbolized meaning. Emmit looks into the fridge only to realize that it's full of irrelevant shit, but the salad he was looking for was nowhere to be found. He then gets shot in the head as a reminder that with or without the salad - at the end of the day the ending was always destined to be unpleasant and render the entire trip to the fridge completely pointless.
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>>84171392
Thats some fairly convoluted explanation. was it not just the fruit salad u could see?
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>Emmitt was the rich baron
>Wench the peasant and the pitchfork

BRAVO
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>>84171427
No, I'm certain of this.
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>>84169920
B R A V O
R
A
V
O

NOAH I LOVE YOU!
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>>84170406
Honestly, I'm glad that they haven't even tried making a knock-off Malvo and have just been focusing on making new villains with new angles like Dodd, Hanzee and Varga.

They know as well as we do that Malvo can never be surpassed and was the greatest and perfectly executed in Season 1.
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>>84171392
I think Emmit represented the viewers, and the salad represented a good season. He looked into the fridge, but found nothing.

Instead, Wrench, symbolizing Hawley, shot us, the fans, in the back of the head, trying to find some redeeming quality to the show.

And naught was found.

Bravissimo, Hawleytello.
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>>84170775
Nah. Gloria knew she had him. And honestly, so did he.
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>>84171570
With what proof. and if those papers to irs fucked him then why come back to america. he knew they have them he got that text that they have them. u really cant know till we get proof that he got nabbed. You can say all you like its implied with blah blah but still doesn't prove shit thats just a presumption.
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>>84171570

What gives it away? Varga seems so sure of himself.
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>this is a salad in America
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>>84171668
pizza is a vegetable in america
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>>84171296
Kaiokek x 100
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>>84171619
>Fucked him
Did you even watch the show? They didn't fuck *him*, they fucked that specific deal he was involved in at the time. Varga isn't his real name, so even though it appeared in the papers sent to IRS, they didn't do shit to incriminate him personally.
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>>84171704
thats my point. IF those papers fucked him why come back. he isnt worried in the least is my point, i didnt even need to go into the fact the names etc that doesent even matter. sorry if my typing was to hard to understand.
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Nikki was punished for seeking revenge rather than dispelling evil.
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>>84171437
yes it was the fruit salad or the big round thing here>>84171668. just quickly rewatch that scene
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>>84171619
He was at the scene of a mass murder and fled for years.
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>>84169377
i want to see him naked. if you catch my drift.
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>>84170474
>>84170535
I know people are saying it was love, but I saw it as being a reference to season 1 where Wrench lost his partner.
He understood what Nikki was doing, so when he found out she was killed without finishing her task he had the opportunity to let out stress from losing his friends.
It only took 5 years because he went on the run and later found out Nikki didn't make it, so he had to track down Emmet.
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>>84171772
it clearly shows he didn't do anything wrong by being in that picture. he has no gun. him being there proves nothing illegal other than he was there. as he said pictures can be faked anyways.
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Varga is Trump and speaks in alternative facts. The show was set in 2011 and then we jump ahead five years to 2016 which is election year and he faces off against a cocky woman.
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>>84171994
>Varga is Trump
>Gloria is Hilldawg
Who's Bernie?
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>>84171994
cringe
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>>84172073
Varga is Trump + Bernie (remember Stalin portait)
He represents toxic masculinity of Western civilisation but this time Women wins
Bravo
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>>84169881

you got what you wanted then
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so the good guys lost?
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>>84172073
>>84172112
Bernie Bros were just as bad as the alt right. I mean they were throwing chairs and attacking women at the Nevada caucus.
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>>84172141
>implying varga is the bad guy
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>MEW dies

Thank god. Was hoping she'd go out with more of a bang, but just a headshot?
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>>84171233
*record scratch*

Yep, that's me.
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>>84172168
I'M NUCLEAR
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>>84172073
>Who's Bernie?
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There's really no way Varga went to prison. Come on, there's no evidence aside from a photograph proving he may have fled a crime. He used an assumed name as well. They would have just Gloria's testimony from meeting him once five years ago, maybe, and she can't prove that because Emmit's dead.
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Im getting TD saeson 2 vibes from this season.
>involve some Realestate/ corporate plot thats uninteresting
>good guys lose
>Dark tone
>protag is lifeless and flat
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>>84172192
>Gets cucked by everyone and says thank you
perfect choice anon
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What an utter disappointment of a finale.
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>>84171994
But I liked Gloria, what does this mean lads?
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So did the parolee that Ray hired kill Gloria's step dad?

Was it ever explained why he glued his mouth shut?
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>>84172277
that your gay
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>>84172221
i just feel sorry for the people who think he is in jail. there really no way of knowing either way but the show certainly points to him not being in trouble.
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>>84172292
Because he kept fucking talking.
>>84172298
damn, guess i'm with her now
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What the fuck happened to the Russian?
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How did Ray's car start working again? Was it God?
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>>84172292
yes he killed him
dont know why he glued his mouth up
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>>84172292
I'm trying to think how he managed to keep the old man's mouth closed long enough for the glue to set.
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>>84172316

He escaped in Paulie's car. The camera shows an above head POV camera shot so he may been hiding in the trees.
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>>84172320
the car starting again is way more believable than that episode where mew went to the bowling alley. shit show that makes no sense.
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>>84172316
Dead by Jews.
>>84172320
Maybe.
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>>84171260

The show has been hinting at the supernatural, downright incorporating it in S2's finale. That's why I find the epilogue so out of place. Varga should have just disappeared after the incident.
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>>84172358
I was hoping Varga would just straight up be gone and never explained.
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Can someone smarter than me explain the point of Gloria's trip to LA and finding out the background of her step-dad? Was it just for the robot allegory story?
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>>84171429
>Wench
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>>84171918

Pictures can be faked is a bad argument since the cops got it from the raw footage. If your argument is "w-well maybe the cops photo-shopped me there!" in a court of law you're shit out of luck.

Varga fled for five years. Chances are he was forced to stop off in the US by a connecting flight. Varga's money is gone. He's fucked.
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>>84172381

Pretentious shit to make a shallow story seem deep.
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Emmit did nothing wrong.
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>>84172374
i though he was the debil when he vanished in the elevator but he just escaped up the shaft
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>>84172381
it was so that when that scene happend at the bar with the other pregnant cop, that u were emotionaly invested and that the scene made you guys care more. terrible writing really.
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>>84172381
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>>84171994

Fuck V. M. Varga and fuck "American" people
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>>84172381
An old man died. She didn't particularly care about him. Wasn't his real father, just someone that was briefly his foster parent at some point. He had connections with no one. He died and no one gave a shit but her.
That's about it.
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>>84172386
Theres also the picture with wrench holding the murder weapon that was used against those people proving varga didn't murder anyone and just so happend to be there.
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>>84172394
He really didn't, and that's kind of half the humour in all of it.
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Did he have bad teeth because bulimia or because he was British?

Anyway, I thought he was a solid villain but I wish someone cut him off during one of his monologues.
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>no more leftovers
>no more fargo

What now lads?
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Al Capone.

If you adopt Varga's cynical, pragmatic, entirely amoral outlook, then by his own standards, he's screwed. Time and again, if there's one thing history's proved, the one crime the United States will not overlook is tax evasion.
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>>84172431
He's not being charged with murder though, he's being charged with conspiracy.
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>>84172394
guess being a coward isn't wrong per se, but won't mourn him.
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I hate how they build up villains as these genius, all knowing characters and then have them do something stupid like go into a creepy looking warehouse to meet people who obviously want to kill you.
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>>84172505
with the picture showing u proof that he commited conspiracy? and dont tell me u mean the IRS shit cause he didnt use his real name how can she prove that name was used by him with a picture in a elevator.
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>>84172528
So, Swango picked the warehouse but it was owned by the lady who took over the parking lot business, right? Did she say her husband owned some King Midas property?
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>>84172381

I CAN HELP

C
A
N

H
E
L
P
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>>84172528
shows that with preptime even flyovers who amounted to nothing thus far in life can take on the foreign threat.
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>>84172551
I believe that is correct
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>>84172551
I don't remember but they definitely showed the King Midas thing on purpose so you may be right. Also did she work for Vargas or was it the other way around?
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>>84171570
I got a thunderous erection when she mentioned deep fried Snickers.
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>>84172605
>you will never be american

feels bad mon
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>>84172346
Best answer, bravo.
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>>84172604
Vargas is boss. The question is if he's hired or if he seeks out these partnerships. But his role is to gut the business, scam loads of mine, and then sell off the scraps for a fraction of what they're actually worth to whoever wants them (a competitor in this case.)
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>>84172528
how about how the built mew up to be a fucking genuis who could easily outsmart him and out gun him. Varga also already knew that she got 1 up on him as if he would just walk into that. 2 guys in cars dont have comms ? he doesent have a group of people sent out before he arrived at destination ie even a spotter.
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>>84172618
Just go to Scotland then. Jesus. It's not that hard.
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The mysterious chinahitman dies off-screen to a super soldier who apparently killed like 10 dudes without a scratch.
>>84170409
She was the worst part of the show desu
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>>84170666
What vengeance? Emmit didn't kill Nikki, she suicided by cop.
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>>84172551
>>84172604
wait what was the king midas connection?
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>>84172483
twin peaks nigga
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>>84172658
he didnt look dead. why wasent he in a body bag then. or atleast the sheet over most of his body showing only his red jacket or somthing on the side.
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>>84170474
it was pretty obvious tbf
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Maybe no one cares but I thought it was cool.

Wrench is also the deaf son in There will be blood.
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>>84172715
>I thought it was cool
me too
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>>84171668
everything in the fridge is sweet

revenge etc
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>>84171392
BRAVO NOAH
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>>84170580
Did he kill the family after that scene?
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>>84170440
>Oookay then
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>>84171180
no
because that faggoty frill jacket he always wears
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>>84172862
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>>84170826
>lady cop burgle is literally invisible and had no impact on the story whatsoever.
>chink bodyguard being built up as an autistic ballerina badass for the entire season. does absolutely nothing and gets killed off-screen.
I like this story line. If either this was another saves-the-day Mary Sue story or some Kung Fu chink shit I'd have been upset. The people looking for justice and excitement in every corner simultaneously got told to fuck off. I loved it.
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>>84172784
he doesnt kill innocents remember in season 1 when he didnt want to kill lester
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>>84172955
this
>meemos last look through the elevator
ebig
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guys

what if Varga
IS
the elevator
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>>84173008
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>>84169377
>most of the season i hated it and i voiced my opinions
>got shat on
>a couple (like literally 1 or 2) anons agreed that 3rd season is shit from the get go
>season progresses and everyone still keeps watching and giving me shit when i say this show is garbage
>some anons swear its the greatest season and cry "kino"
>last episode all those fags shut the fuck up and others finally are taking it down from the pedestal
i was right all along
feelsgoodman
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>>84173032
me on the right
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>>84172682
St. Louis
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I liked the theme of the season. I liked the chaotic nature of the events feeling almost unbelievable at times- that it's easier to make up some fiction of how the events transpired than it is to believe what actually happened.
\I just don't like that the reason a lot of it is unbelievable is because the characters are inconsistently written.

Emmit was probably the best written out of everyone. The cops show up because of his brother, and he decides to end the feud to get his brother off his back. He kills him- unintentionally sure, but he doesn't call an ambulance, he doesn't try and stop the bleeding, and he calls VM to cover everything up because his business is more important than his brother. In the end, Emmit has a chance to repent and chooses instead to walk to VM- as much as he tries to turn things around in Episode 10 (taking Meemo's gun, asking Nikki to shoot him), he ends up destroying everything around him. When he returns home, he is comfortable enough sitting with his family at Thanksgiving dinner- looking a forever disabled Sy in the face, smiling as if nothing had happened- all by doing exactly what VM and Goldfarb told him to do.

Sy on the other hand made very little sense. At once he was a pawn in VM's scheme, collateral damage between Ray and Emmit, and a mover and shaker for Stussy lots. if the point of his character was that he becomes regurgitated by Varga, there was no need for him to be somebody that "took care of things" for the company. A lot of what Sy does is just mindless meandering in the first few episodes that moves the plot forward (e.g. the hit and run). Why they wrote him as a confident character only to have him be completely useless and terrified makes little sense- the effect was too jarring.

I wont even get into how badly Nikki was written. Suffice it to say she was at once a scheming mastermind (Episode 9, half of this episode) and a complete bumbling idiot (her death).
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>and then Varga just gets randomly caught

How fucking lazy are the writers?
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>run a criminal enterprise worth millions
>don't encrypt any of your hard drives
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>>84170826
Was Yuri in this episode or was he sucked into Hell in ep 8? What a fucking waste of a character.
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>>84173115
ppl try to explain her charecter being bad cause she had 9 lives cause of the cat thing poping up more than once. its just bad wrriting.
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>>84173221
hes gonna show up in another season
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>>84173232
Up until this episode I'd actually concede that argument. A character with moments of brilliance tainted by endless traps that she keeps falling for- it's a learning process, like playing bridge. Nikki just had more opportunities to screw up than most. But the cop thing was beyond stupid.
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Wasn't Nikki supposed to say that line to Vargas or the Russian?

Also Meemo just died off camera.

Also why did Mr .Wrench even help Nikki to begin with?

Disappointing.
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>>84173379
she was chained to him on the prison bus so she helped him escape
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>>84173115
>Why they wrote him as a confident character only to have him be completely useless and terrified makes little sense- the effect was too jarring.

I took it as Sy being cucked by Varga (small pond type situation) and realizing he isn't the badass he thought he was.
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>>84173379
Varga disappeared.
Meemo was always going to die.
Wrench was chained to her on the bus. After that, it was probably for the money Nikki knew she could get out of Varga (and did).
Also love if you believe Noah.
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>>84170919
He's dead, if you look at it he is missing a hand.
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>>84173405
That only works transitionally if Sy was at least capable to begin with. Watching a genuine cuck get cucked is boring, and what's more it's genuinely odd how much time was given to breaking Sy down considering he wasn't very high up to begin with.
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>>84171184
You're an idiot and you didn't pay attention
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Why didn't Emmit just shoot Varga?
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>>84173519
He would've died. Did you not see the armed henchmen behind Varga?
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>>84173519
because he is a jewish cuck whom couldnt wield a gun if he tried
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So I thought Swango and Wrench were bleeding to death in the bowling alley... then all of a sudden they were ok and left in the car. People then said they were dead and the scene was some symbolic shit.

Fine.... But then how are they in the real world the last 2 episodes??
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>>84172523
Varga was more of a coward than Emmit
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>>84173549
This is a true story
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>>84173549
Moses healed them and sent them on a mission to destroy evil.
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>>84172723
not me

that sounded gay
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>>84173568
rude
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>>84172637
Only tourists eat deep fried mars bars
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>>84173566
>>84173567
so......
how are they in the real world the last 2 episodes??
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>>84173537
And yet he died anyhow.

Might as well take down a scheming multibillionaire.
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>>84173638
the dude healed them
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>>84172346
lel
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>>84173638
Because they didn't die, you moron
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>m-muh pretentiousness
Jesus Christ it's not like this show is made by scholars or something. Just because the writers tried to do something that stands out a bit it doesn't mean they hid some obscure philosophical meaning only them can understand behind everything. Fuck, you guys are like those people that don't read books or go to theatres because they think "they can't understand it". There's nothing to understand for fuck's sake, you have to enjoy it (or not), not to write a fucking essay about it to impress someone.
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>lifting the ending directly from lord of war
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dubs
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What happened to Sy again? was it the poison that fucked him up?
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>>84173777
witnessed

also his death reminded me of american beauty in a good way
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>>84173800
no, he was fine after the poison but then had an unrelated stroke
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>>84173813
Shit, i don't remember that at all
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>>84173777
LOL YOU GOT TRIPS
YOU SAID DUBS AND YOU GOT TRIPS INSTEAD
FUCKING FAG HAHAHAAH
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>>84169377
I wanted to see him using the powers of Iron Fist considering his new name is Daniel Rand.
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>>84173537
why would they care once the hand that feeds is dead?
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>>84173967
>implying Varga is the hand that feeds
It's clearly Goldfarb
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>>84173645
Right, because he planned on dying.

Emmit's a coward. He had several chances of redemption and rejected all of them until it was too late to turn around.
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CUTE
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>>84174004
she looked so much like the robot
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>>84174004
MOMMY
O
M
M
Y
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>>84170409
>MEW going full retard in shooting the cop after meticulously planning revenge against Varga/Emmitt

Realistic. With long set up plans and goals, the closer to the end, people will attempt to steamroll through. She revealed her hand, if she didn't go through with it then, she'd likely lose her chance.
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Where is the big version of S03E09 from DEFLATE?

wtf happened?
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>Varga caught
>Mr White Knight gets a happy ending
>QT Meemo dead
>Emmet killed years later because the deaf golem had an autistic fit after finding out his waifu died
>Gloria gets a smug ending
Pretty shit season. At least the Master strategist bridge player and professional street walker finally bit the bullet.
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>>84173800
The poison was Hemlock, it fucked up his nerves.
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>>84174121
>>Varga caught
he gets out
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>>84171011

>ur spose to

autist
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>>84173032

I wish this was a full on movie or book desu senpai
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>>84169920
Everything he says is a lie. He hates waste but will eat food just to vomit it back up, that the past is uncertain and the future is certain when it's the other way around. The russian saying "I think you made that up"

He's locked away.
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>>84170414
more like the shittest the fucking ending was terrible
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>>84170535
i agree, love is an over statement and wasnt telegraphed in the show.

Id say wrench took the money for a job and that job was left unfinished...so he finished it.

why he took five years is anyones guess.
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nigger faggot episode
nigger faggot season
the ONLY good things were Ray & Marry Sue getting REKTED and Varga possibly getting away
They should just end this fucking series, it has been only downhill after S02E01
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>gets draged into conpsiracy way over his head
>a company he worked his whole life for gets ripped away from him
>on top of that his retarded bumbling brother is still hung up about a feud from literally 20 years ago and ruins his family over it
>cunt of a girlfriend who pushed his brother int fucking with him somehow thinks that she has any basis for revenge
>killed in his family house by fanservice character whose motivation wasn't even explored, his children will find his dead body while it's still warm
Emmid did nothing wrong.
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>>84174359
pleb
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>>84174004
shorthair coon>longhair coon
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>>84174359
If you like Varga then you're a fucking idiot
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>>84170826

>nikki sneaks into emmit's house completely empty house and places a stamp on his head, so that she could lure him onto a public road and talk to him in a highly visible area for 10 minutes while holding a giant shotgun. before this, she bamboozled an international criminal hit crew and had several other master plans go without a hitch.

I thought Varga placed the stamp on his head cos it was funny to him. Will give it to you if it was her plan to lure him out into the middle of nowhere thats a stretch. She got lucky (show is literally all about coincidence) with the crew, she played her hand ie gin rummy or whatever the fuck game she liked to play.

>emmett's car breaks down or runs out of gas, but works again because the plot called for it.

again the writing is given license due to the Fargo narrative of random chance, coincidence etc. If it was Nikkis plan then she coulda tricked the car.

>lady cop burgle is literally invisible and had no impact on the story whatsoever.

She is the only one besides the other lady cop who can fit the puzzle together completely with the irs man. She is the Fargo trope of the "ok then" innocent.

>Single man taking out a mastermind hit squad, while the storage unit he is in slowly opens, which gave the entire squad about 10 seconds to react and potentially take him out

Wrench bitch.

>Emmett signing papers haphazardly that practically gives his entire company away


he was busted, depressed and didnt give a fuck anymore, Vargo did everything besides literally ass rape him. Plus guns.

>That entire scene in the middle of nowhere

art.

>That reveal that MEW somehow got access to all these papers that incriminated Emmett and Varga

she smart.

>HE'S A KITTEN, MY RAY

well he was.

>chink bodyguard being built up as an autistic ballerina badass for the entire season. does absolutely nothing and gets killed off-screen.

I actually appreciated this, is thwarted my expectations. Kinda like that scene in indiana jones.
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>>84170666
>he was on the run without any ckues about her whereabouts
> then had to carefully probe what happened to her
>find out where stussy lives now.
>wait some more time because its best served cold
I am glad he is dead. MEW fucked up though,
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>>84174381
I would've been seriously mad if Emmit was left alive. Literally every scumbag except my boi varga got served, and that fucker almost made it out.
he was
>a coward
>a hypocrite
>an idiot
>a shit friend
>an even shittier brother
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what a fuckin trash ending holy hell please dont make a season 4 this shit is just getting worse
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>>84174121
>>Mr White Knight
who was he again?
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>>84174448
Varga was the biggest coward
>>
MEWs death was the stupidest shit, and completely meaningless as far as I can tell.

It's clearly implied that she put the stamp on his head and fucked with his car so that it would break down, but then it works first time when he pulls away. The fact that he even tries the key without so much as a "please please work" is retarded.

But then why would she do that instead of just confronting him in his house? To make him feel even lower and even more trapped? That's some stupid shit. And if she wasn't the one that put the stamp on his head, how'd she find him?

I absolutely LOVED this whole season, but those 10 minutes were the worst garbage.
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>>84174556
he wasn't
he was just the biggest scum of them all and realized he's was not really a soldier, that's why he left the scene
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>>84174556
Oh well, at least he left Meme-O to die off screen
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>>84174605
also wouldnt his phone and license be at the fucking scene of the murders still they didnt show him picking the shit back up, this ending was complete shit
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Varga clearly got away. They had nothing to actually charge him on, even if they did lock him up he'd have been let out
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>>84174543
Mr Wrench. who was so pussy whipped by MEW apparently that he came back 5 years after everything was over and killed a man who had literally done nothing wrong other than bully his brother too much growing up.
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>>84173681
>MEW
>MEOW
Bravissimo Noah
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>>84174626
I'm not talking about that. His entire motivation was based on fear and cowardice, he was scared of the mob and needed money to protect himself
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>mfw i watched the sopranos right before this season
why cant these hack directors finish what they fucking start jesus christ
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>>84174605
it's your dick being mad at her dying mine was too, but her death made perfect sense
>gets sent on a divine mission to fuck bad guys
>kills an innocent guy because she has some personal vendetta to complete
>nope.jpg
>dies
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>Gloria is useless with technology
>Varga loves it
>Varga gets caught by facial recognition technology

Poetry?
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wrench's theme is the best goddamn music
>>
Nikki died because she used the line on the wrong person.
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>>84174754
What line?
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>>84174769
The line
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>>84174683
So she was literally punished by god for being a scatter brained woman that ruined a whole plan because she got emotional? That's actually pretty Rad.

B R A V O H A W L E Y
R
A
V
O
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>>84174689
>Varga notices Wrench is behind the opening door and leaves without saying anything
>everyone is so distracted by Varga fucking off without saying a word that Wrench gets the drop on them from behind
>Varga leaving silently was completely unnecessary because Wrench is fucking deaf

pottery
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>>84174783
Oh yeh
>>
Varga is gonna rot in prison. He told gloria that in 5 minutes someone will come and get him out.
And then we see the clock tickin more than 5 minutes and still nobody comes to pick him up. Gloria won.
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>Swango
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>>84174835
>he doesn't realize the ending is intentionally left ambiguous to contradict Varga saying that future is certain
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>>84169986

its pseudo my reddit friend
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>>84174835
>Varga is gonna rot in prison
On what proven charges, officer?
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>>84174448
I'm just glad that Cy is alive, relatively speaking.
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>>84174855
because Fargo.
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>there are people who rooted for Swango instead of Varga

How pleb can you get.
Bout time that Mary Sue caught a bullet. Only thing that stopped this season ending in total happy hollywood horsehit
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WHAT DID V.M. STAND FOR
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>>84174652
>Pussy Wipped by womxn
>Given millions of dollars by this person
/r9k/ leave
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>>84174871
can't Farg the Varg
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Wrench didn't kill Emmett for revenge for killing MEW, but because it was what MEW wanted. He finished the job for his partner.
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>>84174969
this
>he had a le crush on her xD
fucking idiots
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>>84174683
So was Emmit one of the wicked that God had tasked the two of them to take down? Because that's when she started reciting the words.

And if he was, why would he allow a police officer to come along at that point?
And if he wasn't, how come wrench wasn't struck down for killing him? That would set him down the wrong path again right?

And either way, he never said anything about no collateral damage only that he wanted her to rise against the wicked for him. And what would it matter if the cop died anyway if lost souls can find new bodies? I'm sure fucking yahweh could line up a brand new body for that cop?

He didn't seem too concerned when Ray and MEW blackmailed and killed that parolee.
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>>84174950
very mysterious
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>>84175032
we don't truly know if he was
>why would he allow a police officer to come along
same reason he allows varga to exists-can't control individual people
>how come wrench
we don't know what happens to wrench
>he never said
oh well, like nobody ever knows killing innocents is bad
>that parolee
was a complete scumbag and a murderer who tortured his victim
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>>84170196
>RLM faggot
>>
I wanted to see him Sneed
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>>84174062

She can help!
>>
So can anyone tell me what's up with Yuri?

In the first scene in east berlin the officer is asking if the man he's interviewing is Yuri Gurka and if he strangled his girlfriend Helga Albracht. That was 1988 and Yuri was supposed to be a 20yo emigre. The guy isn't the same Yuri from the rest of the show, but his shoes are wet, implying he was the one that killed her and left her body on the bank of the spree.

So if that's the case why did YHWH give him a message from Helga and the rabbi if he possibly didn't kill her and certainly didn't kill any of the people from the massacre that the rabbi was all about (it happened like 250 years ago)?
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>>84175590
and also if he was 20 in '88 he should be 42 during the series but he looks more early thirties.
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>>84175641
The actor is 37. So I think it is not a big problem.
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>>84171201
No salad, just desserts

:^)
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>>84175824
Bravo hawley
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>>84169986
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>>84171570
The screen was black during the credits. Varga got away with it.
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>>84174431
>>chink bodyguard being built up as an autistic ballerina badass for the entire season. does absolutely nothing and gets killed off-screen.

The problem, so many shows done it already that it isn't a surprise.

Though everything is rigged in Nikki's favor, there was NO WAY FOR her to read what the fuck is going on, have access to all the PASSWORDS which Varga would have on himself personally and send it to IRS with Gloria's name on it.

She caused all the shit to happen and the writers made her into a good avenger... but in the flip side is that Ray Wise is known to play the DEVIL and he COULD of been the devil and her time was up.
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>>84175590

"YHWH"

Your assuming he's god, he could of been the devil for all you know as he is known for playing the underworld lord.
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>>84173283
They better introduce him by someone accidentally kicking a box on the corner of a street and a kitten jumping out.
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>>84170474

Then they should have shown this. There were only three scenes of the pair interacting and they never focused on Wrench's half, just Nikki's. It was not at all clear that Wrench was in love with her.
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>>84170409
>I can only be happy with perfect happy endings where the good guys live happily ever after and the bad guys die
Pleb.
>>
Stopped watching after they made it possible for 2 nobodies without any resources(MEW and Mr.Wrench) to taken on a whole criminal enterprise. Now that I know MEW is killed might watch it again.
Does based Varga walk free?
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>>84175890
>>84171570
>>84170775
>>84176106

see >>84175878. is schrodingers cat
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>>84176106
>Does based Varga walk free?
absolutely
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>>84176106

He kills Gloria's kid in front of her
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Uhm what had this season to do with the city of Farg0?
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>>84176206
it's what the F in V.M Varga stands for
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>>84176106
>Stops watching when there is 10 minutes left
>Not even a good reason to stop

hang yourself
>>
One of the best comments here quite early on in the season mentioned that there are a lot of things this season that play like Schrodinger's cat. It ended up being the most important concept of the season.

Gloria is the main Schrodinger's cat of the story. She starts out being both married and not, being both chief and not, being feminine and not, her case is constantly "solved" while it's not - and of course, electronics often don't seem to recognize her. It's only when Winnie looks into the box in episode eight and gives her self-worth that she stops being ambiguous and becomes confident.

Varga is her antithesis because he abuses this ambiguity to his advantage, to not be on the radar, to not be noticed anywhere. He exists, but he feeds lies to people to pretend that he doesn't, and so he doesn't.

In the end, Gloria and Varga end up in Schrodinger's box together in a perfect final scene - and until someone opens that door, they're both right.
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>mfw the last shot didn't have two kittens.
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Can we just call a spade a spade and acknowledge shitty writing for what it is?

Emmit had no reason to die. His death managed to not only be cliche, but logically and narratively retarded.
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>>84176458
That's just the writing style of the series.
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>>84176458

I feel like he thinks he can getaway with everything just being "deep".
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>>84169377
I fucking knew it! This guy was in Wonder Woman
Never seen him before a few days ago
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>>84176614
he's in harry potter too
>>
Who killed grandpa Stussy?

Why did that person glue his mouth and nose shut?

It's not something the junkie would have done.
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>>84173450
> get hand chopped off
> die
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>>84176542

But Emmit actually repented for his wrongdoings and wanted to go to jail. He got off because PLOT, but him dying was not karma. It was just shitty writing.

I am truly baffled as to why this is even a discussion. Emmit's brother tried to ruin his life. Nikki was helping Emmit's brother. Varga was also using Emmit. This wasn't somebody getting their just desserts--the ending of The Departed is a good example of that. This was the writers feeling like they were obligated to kill a character off, because every major character not on the police force or related to police officers has to have a shitty life.
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>>84176398
gay
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>>84172658
>The mysterious chinahitman dies off-screen to a super soldier who apparently killed like 10 dudes without a scratch.
Wrench killing five dudes on turf of his choosing was BS, but Malvo assaulting a criminal stronghold and killing thirty+ dudes singlehandedly was okay?
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>>84169377
> This is a true story
> Doesn't tell the story
what did they mean by this?
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>>84176398
BRAVO NOAH
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>>84176715
Nah, Emmit repented for killing his brother, but he admitted to tricking Ray into giving up the stamp. Everything that happened to Ray - and subsequently, everything that Ray did - was a direct result of Emmit's choices. And in the end, he paid for it.
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>>84176734

Malvo was god, or the devil.
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>>84176398
holy shit 10/10. am stealing this comment to look smart at parties.
>>
So Swango was killed because she abused her divine intervention?
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>>84176825

I guess so, she was only meant to use her powers against evil. Emmit was a swell guy.
>>
So who was fucking with Emmit in episode 8 with the framed stamp photos, Ray's car and the mustache?
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>>84176807
Considering that his name is a play on the word 'bad' in some romance languages, he's probably the devil. If you want to go down that banal path.
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>>84176822
cool cool
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>>84176872
Yeah and he wasn't imagining it either because other people saw it.

It was probably God again.
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>>84176872
Have you ever seen The Santa Clause with Tim Allen, the scenes where he's trying to resist turning into Santa, but it just keeps happening out of shot and between smash cuts?
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>>84176805
>Nah, Emmit repented for killing his brother, but he admitted to tricking Ray into giving up the stamp.

My point exactly. He admitted it. And even if he didn't, who gives a shit? Emmit and Ray made a deal. How is it Emmit's fault that Ray regretted it? How is it Emmit's fault that Ray did nothing with his life? How is it Emmit's fault that Ray didn't want to take the stamp back?

It's a lose-lose situation, and not a well-executed one either. A Serious Man is a good example of a guy getting fucked over cosmically through no fault of his own. This season of Fargo was just shit writing. I just can't feel any bit of sympathy for Nikki or Ray. They were acting like pricks and they got what they deserved. I just can't see how anybody would think Emmit's death was deserving or, most importantly, logical.
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>>84176398
Forgot to mention that Gloria wants to be alive but has a hard time trying to be, while Varga wants to be dead but keeps being dragged into the world of the living.
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>>84176941
Admitting something isn't the same as repenting it, or being forgiven.

>Emmit and Ray made a deal. How is it Emmit's fault that Ray regretted it?
"An older brother taking advantage of a younger brother, tricking him out of his inheritance" To quote the show.
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>>84169377
Could someone explain to me what the point of the East Germany scene at the beginning was?

I think I missed where it was reused, referenced, or discussed.
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can someone explain what the point of this scene is?
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Was there any meaning to the box that turned itself off?
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>>84170474
I think the best reference was how he looked at the money when she gave it to him.

He obviously didn't care, he looked at her more like "you think that's what I want?" Then killing Emmit makes more sense when he probably ran off, then figured out she died later when they didn't reconnect.
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>>84170557
I think it goes to show that Emmitt is still fucked in the head.

He has nearly completely destroyed the relationships and lives of those around him. His wife divorced him (they reconnected, but still), his best friend is crippled, his business is destroyed, yet he still is finding some sense of happiness even though everything was literally his fucking fault. He then finally feels better about accidentally killing his brother, and when life finally seems to go his way after it only went wrong because of him, he's killed.
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>>84172358
I took the ending to mean that there is always a Varga in the world.

It's why even though Gloria meets him five years later, he's very ambiguous about remembering her. Additionally, he still provides completely different details about his life.

There's always a Varga, a guy with a lot of power and the wit to wield it. They value human life as a commodity, and are willing to trade and sell these lives for personal gain.
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>>84177126
Sets up Yuri and is thematically important
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>>84177118
>>84177126
For one, taken as face value a man named Yuri Gurka killed Helga Albracht. Varga's russian henchman is Yuri Gurka and he mentions he knew a helga once. When he is in the bowling alley purgatory, Ray Wise tells him he has a message from Helga Albracht and shows him a vision of the same woman from that scene.

More importantly, I think, is that the officer saying his explanation is a "story" and that we are here to tell the "truth". Except the guy is obviously not Yuri Gurka, so his "story" is more like the truth and the Officer's "truth" a story.
It sets you up for a show that is presented as a "true" story. Shortly after "this is a true story" come up on the screen, but the word true fades first. I think it's supposed to be something about the nature of truth in this show, but that may be going too deep.
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>>84177167
see >>84176398
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>>84177410
But it's nothing really to do with that. The box is either on briefly, or off. There's no ambiguity when it's closed.
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>>84177441
It's more that it's an inherently useless thing, and that episode was about Gloria finding her purpose. Same with the android story.
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>>84177441
Could it be in connection with the robot story? She tries to help but nothing seems to work, she pushes the button and the hand pushes it back.
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>>84177382
>varga has been around a long time, fucking with a lot of people
>the man in the chair is not yuri gurka, just a placeholder like the asian man who gets arrested for all the stussy murders
>ray wise was a person like gloria who knew the truth and followed it to get revenge
>everyone gets their just desserts, even when they think they are in the clear for their crimes, like emit in the finale
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Does anybody else think the first and final scenes mirrored each other, dark gloomy interrogation rooms.
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