OFFICIAL FARGO SEASONM/SERIES FIANLE PRE-GAME/LIVE THREAD

>>84162816
HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOO
in 13 minutes

Not ready to see Varga and Meemo die. I want them to win this thing :(

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/Meme-O/

WHERE IS THE STREAM?

Hot criminal chick pulls some crazy plan that's totally doesn't fit in a show about people being wildly over their heads.

Asian headphone man dies in somekind of awkward kinda funny way.

Leftovers lady comes in at the last minute and clues everything together and makes a strange 'heh' face.

Angry new terrible Chief of police doesn't believe anyone. Ignores evidence, yells at people.

Fargo season 3 goes down as the end of Fargo. Legion sucked too. Noah Halalwlwayway or whatever his name is has lost his way.

STream?

>>84162816
we need a stream OP

>>84163014
his /lit/ is still great though.
he just bit off more than he could chew /tv/ wise

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stream please

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MY BODY IS READY

What a shitty season it was.

>>84163069
>>84163100
>>84163009
stream at brettygood dot com

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>>84163151
it was okay then

lets take a trip down waifu memory lane.

SHE QUIT

the best part of every episode is what they did with the "This is a True Story" text at the beginning of each.

We The Accountant now, boys

Kino intro

>no trump

FUCKING SJWS REEEEEEEEE

DRUMS

What's the point of sawing off a shotgun if it isn't concealable

>that shot of a house guard with a rifle under his arm walking a dog
season2 reference?

>>84163444

to cut off the choke

wait, the spray that Varga spray himself with knocks other people out?

what the fuck?

>>84163609
Try spraying yourself in the eyes with throat spray.

>>84163014
legion was great you idort

>>84163609
The asian guy knocked him out, the spray just blinded him

>>84163609
no he used it like pepper spray

>>84163609
He sprayed it in his eyes dumby

>>84163609
Did you not see him get flogged over the head with a golf club?

>>84163655
>>84163671
oh shit i am dumb

forgive me, i'm a yurofaggot and it's 04:15 here

>she

So goldfarb confirmed head boss

dont fucking edge me like that hawley, thats twice now something could have happened

what did those messages say

>meme-oh dead

JUST

MEEMO IS KILL

FIRST FEMALE 007

>>84164034
Every time I hear that line I can picture the board room full of marketers agreeing on the wording of it, it's just so transparently insincere

>>84163938
The txt?

IRS has the drives. Get out

so...how one deaf guy kill a whole commando alone? why was a girl with no weapons experience handing full automatic weapons?

>>84164145
he's an incredibly talented hitman (was complimented by billy bob who took out the entire fargo syndicate on his own) getting the drop on them
there you go

who was she
was that the woman he was at the date with after killing ray

I fucking told you Roslyn was the big boss

getting taken down by taxes

apparently varga is secretly wesley snipes

>>84162990
Fun fact: The actor that plays Meemo is the same actor who played the gay twink in Boogie Nights.

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>>84164331
>Boogie Nights came out 30 years ago

>>84164187
Not the one you replied to but can you remind me what billy bob said to him?

>>84164355
basically something to the effect that numbers and wrench came the closest out of everyone to killing him

this was in the hospital after numbers got killed in the snowstorm

>>84164355
https://youtu.be/kw5SLMWXvOc

>>84164355
Basically Malvo didn't kill Wrench and actually helped him escape custody based solely on the fact that Wrench and Numbers came the closest out of anyone to killing him

>Better Call Kino is over
>Farkingo is over (possibly forever)
>The Kinovers is done
>The Amerikinos is over
>American Kinos is finished after only 8 episodes
>Silikino Valley almost done


What the fuck do I watch now? Fear the walking pleb? Game of plebs?

>>84164442
Snowfall

>>84164442
Twin Peakino

Why didn't he check how much gas he had

>>84164442
I think Preacher starts back up soon

That see ya later was cringe

FUCK YES THATS WHAT I WANTED

NIKKI BTFO

Emmitts gonna be blamed?!?!?! NOOOOOOOO

MEW
;_;

>>84164804
she got BLACKED

she died as she lived

f

>>84164830
On her back

Literally stole Justified's ending

Why is this thread so dead?

>>84164980
It's an underwhelming episode thus far

>>84164918
right? Said the same thing on the live thread, just the same with a fool in the middle instead of on the marsall car

>>84164980
was created before a previous fargo thread reached post limit

>>84164980
you're in the wrong thread, use the catalog

>>84164980
fargo lost 97% of it's viewer base last season due to ayy lmao
there's only 12 of us now

Man I wish I had a pedo stache and could do magic tricks for my friends.

I dhould drink more Stella Artois

nice to hear music from the movie

>has gay dads
>is sucking on popsicle

>Five years later
I've had enough

Anticlimactic!

why did Wrench wait 5 years to kill Emmit?

Sy deserved better

Ok the Mr wrench circlejerk went on to long

that was a shit episode

Wtf I hate Mr Wrench now.

>>84165322
And why did he bother killing him at all?

MEWFAGS BTFO

Final scene is Billy Bob Thornton reciting a nursery rhyme into the camera

>>84165374
He blamed him for his friends death. But seriously? Now he's straight up unlikable.

>implying it was Stussy's blood and not just maroon gelatin

>>84164507
This. Lynchkino until mid September lads

Glorias son is so ugly

He's the devil right?

The only thing that saves this season is if Varga transforms into a wolf and just fucking kills everyone

holy fuck what a bullshit ending

FUCKING KINO ENDING

Holy fucking shit they did NOT just fucking do that.

After credits end a la Legion incoming

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK YOU HAWLEY

Peter and The Wolf ends with Peter taking the Wolf to a zoo.

Gloria wins.

fucking trash

Okay so
Season 1 >>>> Season 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog shit >>>>>>>>> Season 3

that was straight up Sopranos bullshit

>>84165760
>Fargo 96
>dogshit

Wrong. And don't even pretend.

Gloria was such a shit character

what happened guys?
https://strawpoll.com/eds1g66

>>84165809
that guy didnt say anything about the movie though, he meant that the third season is worse than dog shit

It's Tricky to rock a rhyme, to rock a rhyme that's right on time
It's Tricky

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wait

what

WAIT HOLD ON

WHAT????
WHAT????????????????????????????

IT'S 5:10 AM HERE
i STAYED UP FOR THIS AWESOME SERIES FINALE
THEY MAKE A MESS ABOUT THE MONEY, OH WELL I SAY

THEY KILL A QT PLAGIARIZING JUSTIFIED
OH WELL I SAY

THEY KILL AN INNOCENT EMMIT WHEN FINALLY HAPPY AGAIN
I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD NOW

AND THIS HAPPENS?
THISSSSSSSSSSSSS FUCKING SHIT HAPPENS????? THE LAMP DIMS OUT AND WE GET THE ENDING CREDITS???
WHAT??

WHAT???

WHAT??????????????

>>84165819
Change it to "doesn't matter"

I really liked the first half of the finale. Then it went downhill.

Varga got out, kino ending

Actually a very poor episode desu

Are y'all stupid? She didn't do anything all season you think she's gonna make a difference in the end?

>>84165894
I thought it was perfect

>Nikki gets offed
>Stussy lives
>Varga lives
>Gloria loses

The only thing i didnt like was Mr Wrench killing Emmit, it wouldve been so much better for him to just fade off again.

Out of 10

9 Season 1
9.5 Season 2
3 Season 3

>>84165852
>snowfall
>tricky
Makes me want to find a copy of SSX Tricky

>>84165910
she's not invisible anymore, just like the robot.

burgle won

Varga is represtative of the devil, a primal evil that always has to exist to make people like Gloria feels justified and satisfied with their lives. He walks.

>>84165949
The robot never did anything

I can already see that the patrician opinion will be Season 3 is the best and plebs will call it the worst.

I've never been really good at catching the subtle meanings and symbolism in this show, but was there anything to this ending or did they really just end it? I can't imagine they would end the show on such a boring note.

So who was that old guy?

>>84165981
It isn't but Varga is a pretty amazing villain. The one bright spot of a bad season.

>>84165979
the robot helped the aliens at the very end

>>84165910
>You have helped my metal friend

>>84165949
And yet Mew and the trooper died, all she did was show up late... I can help! And he never does help. It's like that. An inability to make a difference.

>>84165935
honestly, yeah.

Season started off okay, and kept me interested till the end, but the finale was pretty bad.

I liked the very final scene, but everything else was pretty weak.

In what way would Varga get acquitted? Why would they not take it to trial regardless of the *person* coming in?

>>84166020
Inside man

>>84165957
He is a CIA asset and will be released.

What does VM stand for?

What happened to Yuri?

I was wondering when he was gonna show up again, but he never did.

Varga was right, pitchfork peasants did come for him, they were that greedy cunt Swango and his loser brother Ray. If Ray wasn't an idiot he would have maintained his car, sold it for a decent amount, and use that money to do something

>>84166044
Villainous Man

Yuri & Wrench operator superteam confirmed for Season 4

>>84166057

Ray Wise took him to the black lodge.

>>84166000


No, Season 3 is one of the best seasons of TV that I've seen. It challenges the viewer more than either of the other two, and will be the one most difficult yet rewarding to grasp.

>>84166044
Virtual Machine

So let me get this straight:

-Gloria's boss really was just an incompetent fucking moron who went out of his way to be unreasonable and irrational

-Sy's character was utterly pointless

-Yuri, one of the more interesting characters, falls into some Lynch-esque bullshit and just disappears.

-Wrench and Nikki are unstoppable killing machines and effortlessly killed a room's worth of professional men.

-Varga WAS stupid enough to fall for the trick. Not only that but actually went in there himself. Why?

-Emmit got in his car and left the scene despite the only reason for him being there in the first place was his gas being fucking running out. How did he leave?

-The beginning of the season with Gloria's side of the story was a complete and utter waste of time and the thematic resolution from it goes nowhere.

-Deus ex IRS Guy

-Deus ex Mr. Wrench (I enjoyed him but it was still, like most things in this season, utterly pointless)

Why even have Wrench? Just to kill Emmit? Give Emmit a gun in that scene and you can do the exact same shit, minus the unnecessary cop.

Ray died too early. Sy was wasted. Yuri was wasted.

Dumb.

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>Daniel Rand, I sell in Brussels
Nice try Varga, I saw Iron Fist and the guy in it wasn't you! You look like you could do your own stunts but he sure as hell couldn't!

>>84166057
Ray Wise put the curse of Russian peasants on him.

>>84166020
he got away with potentially 200 mil from fucking with stussy for what, 1 year max?

if he did this for others, which he presumably did, he's a fucking billionaire and can control just about whatever he wants

>>84166032
Beating the DHS? You would basically need the president to be an inside man at that point.

>>84166057
Killed by literal pitchfork peasants

>>84166057
he bled out m8

Remove Wrench killing Emit and I would've rated this scene much higher
That didn't need to happen

>>84166044

Valiant Man

>>84165999
>>84166000
>consecutive trips
nice

>>84166119
I still wanna know.

Who was that old man? Grim Reaper?
Can't be since Wrench is alive

>>84166078
>it doesn't matter.
>it's just a story

liek wow sooo deep wicked nihilism twist really baked my souffle

>>84166097
Plenty of money men bled the country dry back in 2007 and we gave them even more billions for their trouble. Only people with no power or connections go to jail.

>>84165374
Mew tells him to keep the money they got from Varga because she only wants Emmit dead for killing Ray. Wrench decides to repay her by killing Emmit

>>84166088
>-Gloria's boss really was just an incompetent fucking moron who went out of his way to be unreasonable and irrational
This is one of the worst offenders of this season. The writing was so bad that it just forced him to be an incompetent and irrational dickhead, y'know, for the sake of it.

Writing so bad, in fact, that many people were figuring he would be working for Varga. 'Cause there's no way he's that poorly written, right???

why was grandpa's mouth glued shut?

>>84166088
>Ray died too early.
This, but IRL murder does take people at inopportune times.

>>84166020

That was literally stealing the ending of Lord of War.

>>84166164
symbolizing how he was never open about his past (e.g. the books he wrote)

died with his mouth shut

>>84166163
They definitely should have had Moe team up with Gloria after the Bus thing. Instead they timeskipped...

>>84166164
some assassin killing him for things he did in his past life

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Literally no pay off with this guy

>>84166018

Like Un-Go!

>>84166005
Aliens represent Ray Wise and the lost Jews who she won't help recover their money until shes dead or at least has a near death experience
Honestly she has no proof on him
He wasn't involved with Enmits death, wasn't anywhere near Nikki and the state trooper, and is basically a victim in the storage complex, there's no way he'll be charged with their murders. The tax stuff he can beat and it isn't the DHS' field.
Actual arms dealers freely operate by giving millions to the right people in government. Varga is doing nothing compared to that and could easily pay off the right guys

>>84166210
He was just a dumb asshole.

>>84166078
it's definitely more subtle than the other two, but the issue is it ISN'T more rewarding. too many things just went wrong, foremost the chief just being too retarded, along with sy's character literally going nowhere. the final scene was good, but all weight behind it was destroyed because

>five year time skip completely removes the tension of varga having just decimated stussy's life, and emmit just dying doesnt really impact it at all
>gloria's character was a huge fucking nothing
so what could have been easily the best ending of all three seasons fell completely flat

>>84166088
don't forget they wasted THREE episodes worth of time to explain Gloria's stepdad's Stussy name origin which ultimately meant nothing

>>84166183
He fucking loses. She KNOWS she has him and he just thinks he's walking away.

>>84166210
>hey eli, you want to play another sheriff?
>this time you're retarded and there's no point to your retardation

hahahhah it fucking sucked

>>84166163
>Gloria's boss is incompetent
Season 1 at least had good reasoning for the superior officers not caring (Lester played the victim and was good friends with the cops) but Season 3 screwed the pooch on that one

Better Call Saul and Fargo had terrible finales.

Sheesh

>>84166088
don't forget
>deus ex bowling alley just so stronk womin nikki and white knight wrench can escape the bad russian man
>MUH REINCARNATION
>MUH RABBI NACHMAN
it was kino but used very poorly

>>84166210
He's playing Light's dad in the Netflix Death Note movie, which is hilarious because now i can only see him as the lame superior officer who doesn't know diddly and literally takes the easy way out

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>>84166280
>two incredibly disappointing finales back to back

i don't think i'm gonna get over this lads

>>84166088
I haven't seen the finale yet but I can't believe how little Gloria factored into the show after her LA trip. That episode was great and arguably did her character type's season arc in one episode, but was it all just an arbitrary way to get her out of the story faster

>>84166196
da curtains r blue them means we at sad house!

As a finale that had the weight of making everything before it worth it, I'd give it a 5/10
However I still really enjoyed the season

I think the ending interrogation was supposed to mirror the Nazi scene in the first episode

>>84166171
It was manslaughter at best

only thing that was garbage was wrenches wasting time to kill emmit. Especially at Thanksgiving/Christmas or whatever holiday that was surrounded by his family. I like that the thing that got Varga wasn't some big shoot out, but simply getting caught by a spot check at the airport

>>84166254
Yep. Bill was completely reasonable in season 1. There was no definitive proof, and as soon as there was SOMETHING, Lester had his brother successfully framed.

The fucker in Season 3, he's just stupid. Stupid and mean for no reason at all.

My guess would be Noah got into some "we gotta keep the bad big man from keeping strong women from being empowered!!!" and had no idea what to do with the guy other than that.

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reminder that the coolest part of the season that was one of the best set ups in all of television ultimately went ABSOLUTELY, L I T E R A L L Y, NOWHERE

You people are pissants

>wah it didn't end like I wanted it to wah bad writing wah I watched it anyway

>>84166352
yeah you're right
we should have judged the finale without watching it

>all those pseuds who called me a brainlet for accurately calling out the LA episode as filler

fuck you

>>84166325
>implying that sy didn't hire a hitman to kill emmit for letting a limey poison him

>>84164331

gay twink? The chinese firecracker boy during the drug deal?

>>84166280
>>84166300
There was literally nothing wrong with the BCS finale. Maybe needed more Mike, but that's it.

>>84166366
Half the season was filler

>>84166088
For the most part, this

>>84166313
East germany you fucking twat no wonder people shit on this show they're too stupid for it

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I can help!

>>84166088
So, final thoughts on the season:

-Some very good, entertaining, enjoyable moments

-The writing as a whole, across the entire season, is very messy

-I personally like the characters though I know many find them bland and boring outside of the villains

-Speaking of which, excellent villains until they're reduced to cartoonish morons in the end.

-Many characters are wasted, pointless or just overall bad.

I'd give it a 5, whereas Season 2 would be a 7 and Season 1 would be a 7.5 or 8.

>>84166345
>My guess would be Noah got into some "we gotta keep the bad big man from keeping strong women from being empowered!!!" and had no idea what to do with the guy other than that.

Oh fuck off, it's a cop drama trope as old as cop dramas to have the boss impede the hero's investigation. This was just awfully written

>>84166366
As a standalone character episode it was fantastic though

>>84166352
>my show is above criticism

>>84166412

In the end he truly was best character.

>season 1 plagues
>season 2 aliens
>season 3 angry jew ghosts
how did this stupid show even get renewed twice??

>>84166044
Virtuous Magnate

S1 > S2 >>>>>>> S3

It's the most inkeeping with the movie on a meta level. Just a string of occurrences punctuated by coincidences and fuck-ups. No real cloture for any of the characters that remain alive, no explanation or reveal. Just an ending.

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>>84166374
>Needed more Mike

>>84166241

I disagree with your assessment of Gloria. I also found the ending to be brilliant, and one the season has been working towards earning. I put season 2 on par with some seasons of The Wire. Season 3 is like the thesis statement of the series, it plays with narrative, it fully embraces the idea of a Cohen-verse, and it is a very gripping noire tale. It is between this or season four of the Wire for me I think right now.

>>84166436
how did you even post this twice??

>>84166044

Very Muscular

>>84166439
2 > 3 > 1

First season was so cheesy sometimes

>>84166436
should have done vampires tbqh
what were they thinking

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>>84165949
>burgle won
gloria in the dhs makes me proud to be an amurrican
>amber waves of grain all over yer ass Varga

>>84166451
not really. Season 1 was basically the movie given the TFA treatment with only little details being changed and spread across 10 episodes. basically ended the same, too.

whereas, with this, a lot of things don't mesh well or are just very unnecessary and stupid. the ending would be fucking great if there was anything good to accompany it beforehand.

>>84166280
American Gods was also shit
At least Fight Night lived up to the hype

>>84166044
Vile Maggot

>>84166454
Finally someone reasonable. Death and justice were handled very realistically this season. And its themes were top notch.

>>84166451
that's not what this is at all. and the movie had an ending, a thematic one at that. did you not watch it or something?

>>84166088
Okay I'll bite on this.

-Agreed that Dickhead Boss is stupid, though his actions do tie into the opening scene of the first episode.

-Sy's purpose was to serve as Emmit's morality pet. Letting Varga poison the former signified the latter's final descent into evil.

-Yuri was interesting, but at the same time didn't do much other than do Varga's dirty work. I am a little annoyed at the ambiguity of his departure, but on paper it's a decent conclusion to his character.

-Wrench is also a professional who went toe to toe with Malvo in season one. Nikki's probably on a much lower level, but she IS a criminal.

-Varga thought he had the tactical advantage of more men. I bet he didn't expect Nikki to send the evidence to the IRS.

-Emmit's car starting again was bullshit, though it wasn't clarified if it ran out gas or just had some sort of mechanical failure.

-I guess the third episode was pointless (I thought it was a fun side excursion), but Gloria had a stake in everything, and the story needed a fundamentally good presence to avoid complete darkness.

-IRS guy was set up in the middle of the season, he's a decent Chekov's gun.

-Wrench was needed to tie this season to the previous two. Him killing Emmit reminded me of Mark Wahlberg killing Matt Damon in The Departed.

-Ray did die too early, but there wouldn't have been much story for him afterwards either.

>>84166466
That would have been tight

>what does the VM stand for
>Vampire Master

>>84166044
Vagina Monologues

Hopefully we get another season within the next 4 years where Noah wasn't writing or working on another show during the writing of Fargo.
I blame Legion for the seasons missteps

>>84166147
The wondering jew

>>84166313
Two identical scenes of two innocent men persecuted by statist terror organizations
Pottery

Buscemi & blonde vs. Malvo vs. Hanzee vs. Gerhardts vs. Mike & the brothers vs. Yuri & Meemo vs. Wrench & Numbers vs. Ray & Nikki

With regards to the ending, Peter and the Wolf has the part at the end where the grandfather posits the idea of "What if Peter hadn't caught the wolf?".

>>84165932
>Gloria loses
How on earth do you come to that conclusion?

Meme-O deserved better.

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Oh boy can't wait to spoonfeed that ending from now on to every retard who didn't get it in every future Fargo thread.

>>84166454
like i said, the ending as an idea is great. the was it was executed, not so much. especially because the ending to many of the other characters, specifically sy and emmit, were just not good. Nikki's could have been really good if the best episode of the season didn't point her character in a completely different direction. she had an arc, and then it was like the rug was just pulled out from under her. yeah, i get it, "sometimes the world just doesnt make sense," but undermining your own show to achieve that just isn't a good idea.

and what the fuck is a cohen verse? you mean is like coen movie? season 2 was a far better cohen movie AND noire tale
>>84166516
the themes were good but their implementation into the season did not mesh well with the writing

>>84166451
This, all of the "I WANTED CLOSURE! SO MUCH SHIT DIDN'T LEAD ANYWHERE! REEEEEEEEEEEE" plebs obviously don't know the Coen brothers. This season felt a lot like a really long Coen brothers film, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a lot more to do with this season than the previous seasons.

>le time skip

>>84166521
>sy is emmit's morality
>is a total shitter to his brother despite emmit not feeling that way at all
no

>>84166516
>guy gets screwed over by corrupt sociopaths
>getting randomly shot even though he didn't do anything terrible himself is somehow justice

I wonder what the black officer did to deserve getting shot. Maybe he beat his wife or touched kids. At this point I'm kind of sick of the stupid karma factor in this show. A fuckton of criminals get away with shit in real life, but everyone who commits even petty theft ends up dead in this, instead of in jail or beaten with a stick, or simply just walking away

>>84166088
>>84166521
Someone said that it was divine intervention stopping and starting in the last thread.

>>84166569
I didnt mean DHS Gloria.

I meant cop gloria, she basically lost everything:

>Her "makeshift dad"
>Her husband
>Her department
>Her case was lost

She didnt win shit this entire season and was basically a vehicle for the viewer to get to point a to point b.

DHS Gloria is some crazy 5 year step forward and is basically a new character.

>>84166352
Moronic post

I honestly don't know how they could too Season 3. I loved the fact that they heavily referenced Russian literature this season, Ray Wise was basically a huge misdirection. Varga and Gloria are basically stand in's for the competition between narrative and truth.

Maybe I'm just a dumb burger, or maybe I missed something, but was there ever a payoff for the very first scene in the first episode where the guy was being interrogated by the Stazi?

>>84166464
>thar b dragons here

>>84166662
Yuri was the murderer

>>84166662
No, it's completely unrelated and the ending even fails to mirror it.

Unless you want to go super deep and believe >>84166544

>>84166672
>turkish delight
nothing is delightful there, complete fantasy

I hope all those plebs hating the final scene never watch A Serious Man.

>>84166646
that was me, basically i figured his car stopped, then nikki came up and was going to deliver her message to the wicked, but emmit wasn't really supposed to be the wicked, just an idiot. so she was delivering it to the wrong person and was going to kill the wrong person; that's why he died in the crossfire and why emmit was unscathed and why his car started up again

however, i wrote all that as it was happening, and i expected emmit to go and do something meaningful in the conclusion that slightly redeemed himself and proved that he WASN'T the wicked. but then he just cried and died.

>>84166501
Season 1 was a loose extension of the movie, and as you said, basically a remake. But everything flowed to a coherent, unfaltering plot centered around Malvo and Lester. Everything that happened in Season 1 happened for a reason and every loose end was tied up by the end.

Whereas with the movie, you had non-sequitirs, pointless characters, and very little cloture to the events that transpired. The final scene frames it as a happy ending for Marge, but it's only happy in that she gets to continue on with her life. She failed to have any real impact on the course of the mystery.

>>84166662
>>84166701
YURI WAS THE KILLER! You two really weren't paying attention.

>>84166662
It's the narrative vs. truth thing like the other anon said but this time the roles are reversed. Varga is the one presenting the narrative as the one being interrogated while Gloria conveys the truth in her position of authority.

>>84166662
The Russian killed the girl.

MEW death scene was great.

This was a subpar season but the air conditioner, Episode 4, Episode 8, and the warehouse-> Mew death was great.

>>84166662
It was just a framing device for the themes of the season, like the prologue of A Serious Man.

>>84166709
a serious man is good though. this season isnt close to it

>>84166606

Hey buddy, I think you're a little bit dense. I hope you can enjoy the thread, and it is nice that you're trying to enjoy kino, but I will have more enjoyment discussing Fargo with folks who are s bit more savvy than you, but don't worry a C student is perfectly average.

Remember the end of season one, when it's revealed the reason the Bob Odenkirk character was impeding the investigation by qt thiccfu was because he had this rose tinted view of small town policing, and wanted nothing to do with all that bloodshed. It was actually pretty sympathetic, I'm pretty disappointed they didn't do something similar with the dickhead police chief here.

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>>84166743
>it's a pleb calling others pleb to hide his plebiness

>>84166613
>>84166451
Are there actually people that watch Coen Brothers films and think things don't go anywhere or make sense and believe that's also the point of the film? The Coens always write about random chance/fate but the stories themselves are rarely if ever incomplete the way this season did.

>>84166730
>Season wasn't a masterpiece
>So its shit
It was really good tv

>>84166756

Smug Varga is best boy.

Would have been better if Emitt and Nikki killed each other.

>>84166756
i love this image, thank you for supplying it to me

Figured I'd ask here while the thread is warm, but what are your thoughts on Inside Llewyn Davis?

>>84166715
>non sequiturs
>pointless characters
Name one example

Inb4 Mike Yanagita

>>84166770
i liked it, but it definitely was not as well done as the previous two. the other two felt like they had been thought out, from a writing and thematic standpoint, painstakingly. this one felt much messier

>>84166210
>that's so stupid only an intellectual could believe it

>>84166730
I was was talking about the final scene. And this season was good overall, just not as great as the previous ones.

>>84166804
I will completely agree, but the over-exaggeration is grating

>>84166718
didn't it take place a long time ago...like yuri would have been a kid, no?

>>84166792
Masterpiece. 2013 MOTY.

In retrospect seems like the only thought out character was Varga, everybody else was there just to play off him.

>>84166792
fuck off and make your own thread

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>>84166760
Coen brothers films always have bizarre detours that on the surface are wastes of time but when you dig deeper you find all sorts of themes. This season had bizarre detours that on the surface are wastes of time but when you dig deeper you'll find all sorts of themes. Some anons are already starting to piece things together and come up with theories. This season wasn't incomplete, you're just a pleb.

>>84166280
Funny you say that, those are the only two show I was watching atm. Now i need something else to do.

Any recommendations?

>>84166895
yuri and ray both had good conclusions and characters. ray moreso than yuri.

emmit and nikki were so close to being godtier characters it hurts

>>84166917
The Leftovers
The Young Pope
Twin Peaks

The whole season was basically an argument for the truth resisting the narrative. The narrative was that Nikki was to tell Varga coming out of the elevator the quote, but Varga escaped and the truth is she mumbled it barely to Emmit before killing a cop. Varga and Gloria are the representatives of narrative and truth respectively. You can even see that is why Gloria feels so underutilized the whole season, because the truth is often lonely and hard and the narrative is more enjoyable, easier to swallow, more reassuring. Just an incredible season.

>>84166895
Even he isn't a good character, just a mess of tics and goofy anecdotes like every meme villain since the Joker

>>84166916
Star Wars Episode 1 was also interesting on a thematic level.
Who gives a fuck about what the themes are when the execution is so poor?

>give nikki a great death
>but it completely conflicts and goes against everything her character was and what the show had built her up to conclude as
not good man

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>NO CABIN SCENE
RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WHERE IS MY POTTERY???
FFFUCK

>>84166949
i actually really like this interpretation, and it could have worked very well. only issue is it by definition makes the "protagonist" dead weight the entire season, which even if thematically interesting, is not good television. also emmit and sy's conclusions were just awful

>>84166949
TAKE YOUR DAMAGE CONTROL SOMEWHERE ELSE THIS SEASON WAS SHIT I'M NOT A PLEB

>>84166949
What the fuck does Gloria know about truth? Her "husband" was sucking dick on the sly

>>84166454
This season wasn't a masterpeice, but it was good, felt like they could have taken a episode out and made it work.

>>84167003
There isn't a main protagonist in the show. Protagonist doesn't mean "good"

>>84166916
I'm talking more about execution, and even surface level narrative. 3 has all this sloppy screenwriting listed in this thread, the terrible aside with Ray Wise in episode 8, writing Sy out of the story once he's delayed the plot long enough, the tonal shift to an action movie in the last 3 episodes, etc. The Coens write these extremely thought out and coherent films about the random cruelty of fate, this season was more like random plot threads starting and stopping on a whim with very little purpose until the final scene.

>>84167051
even if there wasn't a protagonist this season, the previous two have had clear protagonists. and it's also why i put it in quotes, she really is barely a protagonist because she doesnt do anything to go against varga. so essentially she is just a nothing character through and through

DJ Quall's character (named Golem according to the credits) was pointless. He's just introduced as a henchman then killed. Meemo and Yuri actually did shit and seemed cool

>>84166916
>dig deeper
>only two themes are literally said to you, the audience, by a character speaking
lol. season 2 pulled this off so much better with the aliens and reagan. this season was just total amateur hour compared to season 2

>>84167079
Yep

Season 1 10/10 story with 9/10 characters
Season 2 9/10 story with 10/10 characters
Season 3 7/10 story with 8/10 characters.

>>84167016
>>84167025

Try sticking to The Walking Pleb


>>84167003

The protagonist is there as basically a torch in the darkness. Varga even states that the problem is there is good in the world. Gloria is the only good person of the characters, and ultimately the one who won't let Varga go. It is a representation of the struggle between truth and narrative, and even if Varga leaves, what indication do you have that Gloria or the truth won't keep fighting to resist the like of the narrative.

>>84166949
I like this. Makes it more reasonable

>>84167135
like i said, thematically it's sound, like this entire season, but executed onscreen, it's sloppy screenwriting, like this entire season

>>84167089
She isn't the protagonist
Plus read>>84166949

>>84167135
How is Gloria a good person? Her meddling got several people killed

even though this was the worst season of Fargo, it's still much better than 80% of all other television.
that's a fact.

>>84167174
her not being the protagonist only makes her even more pointless and dead weight

>>84166969
>Star Wars Episode 1 was also interesting on a thematic level.
kek
>Who gives a fuck about what the themes are when the execution is so poor?
The execution was good though.

>>84167163

I just don't see how it was sloppy. The writing was really tight in my view.

>>84167205
Makes literally no sense

>>84167214
how the fuck can you say the writing was tight when you have characters like the chief and fucking sy along with emmit's conclusion

>>84166949
Also why Gloria is smiling at the end. Varga says it's pointless to debate about what will happen until it does. She gets five minutes to enjoy the narrative until it may or may not get crushed by the probable truth that Varga has the means to get out of this. But for five minutes she gets to live her fantasy.

>>84167214
>The writing was really tight in my view
Varga's line about "The problem isn't that there's evil, it's that there's good" has been in about 80% of all the animes I've ever watched

Ray Wise's character was named Paul Marrane.

DJ Qualls' character was named Golem.

Get it?

>>84167190

I think you are just making a narrative there. Gloria didn't kill anyone.

>>84167266

You just admitted to watching anime, why should anyone give a shit about your opinion now?

>>84167191
This, the previous seasons are better but this season was damn good television.

>>84167254
Chief isn't an inherently flawed character. In fact he was kind of likable. The biggest misstep was that he is basically the only character in the show not to redeem himself in some way

>>84167276
She didn't kill anyone herself, but her constant meddling certainly led to people dying. And why did she meddle? Some bizarre motivation to be like a helping robot in a book she read.

>>84167323
Who did she get killed?

>dude they bring up this theme in an unexplained scene to start the show then clarify at the end with next to no relation to anything else in the season

>its so deep and complex you just don't get it

You guys are doing a lot of gymnastics to make a story about people lying sound like something more than it is.

>>84167323

God you're fucking dense. Gloria is good. That is why she cares. That is the trouble with the world.

>>84167359
>clarify at the end
Try two episodes ago fuckface

So how long until people on here turn around and start saying this season was great? During season 2 countless people relentlessly bitched and said it was worse than season 1 but now it's nearly universally loved. If we ever get a season 4 I'm sure tons of people will post "THIS IS SHIT COMPARED TO SEASON 3!"

>>84167310
chief was an extremely obvious case of "i need someone to be stupid here to serve the thematic purpose and plot of this season, but i don't really feel like writing a character that might plausibly act like this without coming across as being fucking stupid for no reason (like odenkirk in season 1)" i've seen in a long time.

>basically only character in the show not to redeem himself in some way
lol, how about sy and emmit? and that's just this season

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/fien-print/fargo-season-3-finale-explained-1015844

>One of the things that I was interested in exploring here was the mental violence that comes from having your world [upended]. Gloria is a good example. She was in what she thought was a happy marriage with a job as the chief of police and then suddenly her husband has left her and she's not chief of police anymore and her stepfather is killed randomly and there's this sense to which the rug's been pulled out from under her and that sense of fracturing your reality, that reality isn't what you thought it was, is a kind of violence. Sy feels it too when he goes home and his wife asks, "What's wrong?" and he says, "The world. It looks my world, but everything is different." There are examples of that the whole way through, even down to the fact that Emmit is released from prison because Varga creates an alternate reality about what happened to the story that we've all watched. Gloria says to her son, "There's a violence to knowing the world's not what you thought." I feel like that's something I really wanted to explore.

And I have a good sense of why Nikki can't let get of what Emmit did, but why do you think Mr.

>Wrench can't let go?

Well, I mean, he probably fell in love with her a little bit, don't you think? Wouldn't you? The last time we saw Mr. Wrench [in the present], his partner had been killed and it was clear that that was meaningful to him. I firmly believe that if Malvo had lived, he would have seen Mr. Wrench again. I do feel like there's a degree to which he fell in with Nikki and then, at the end of it, Nikki showed him she was an honorable person. He kept all the money and she just wanted justice and she never got that justice. So I think that to the degree that he had any kind of code, he was coming. One way or another.

>>84167387
I meant in the way that they're completely One dimensional in a frustrating and unneeded way. I worded it wrong.

>>84167274
no

>>84167366
>Gloria is good
How? She doesn't show any strong feelings when Nikki is dead on the ground - she just shrugs her shoulders and gives an "aw shucks" like she's part of some midwestern minstrel show.

She's literally only doing all this for herself. Her life sucks, everything flipped upside down for her (her job, her marriage, her family), and now she's fanatically working a case to give herself a sense of purpose and reality. Gloria is honestly the most selfish, self-serving person on the show.

>>84167442
that's the point though, odenkirk had a very real reason for acting the way he did. it was stupid but his character was portrayed perfectly to fit this. this chief was just "im mean new chief you backwards idiots are dumb and my word is law now im smarter than you are" and that was it

So Varga is a stand in for Trump?

>>84167464
Why would Gloria outright care for Nikki? they had like one meeting

is season 3 worth watching lads? I loved the second and liked the first

>>84167405
>wrench fell in love with nikki
fuck you hawley you fucking hack. how about tying in angel ray wise saying "he's on a better path now." oh right, you completely dropped that set up in the finale you fucking hack

>>84167546
yeah, just dont expect it to be as good

Can someone explain the whole " narrative vs truth" thing to a retard like me please?

What was with the chocolate cake
It must've had some purpose what with being in the exact center of the fridge opening shot

>>84167526
Because Nikki was a girl with a rough life who lost her man and whose life turned to shit. You'd think that Gloria, having encountered similar hardships, would have a moment of empathy. Nope.

All Gloria wants is validation or GLORY

>>84167546
It's a solid 8/10. Definitely weaker than the previous seasons but still very good. Go into with slightly lowered expectations and you'll really like it.

>>84167591

Chocolate is sinful and Varga likes to fuck black chicks, obviously.

>>84167546
it's sloppy, experimental, and disappointing.

>>84167519
He's a representation of today's fucked up world. Trump isn't the only one who cares more about narrative than facts, the media and other political leaders have been doing this shit for years.

Let's face it: it sucked. There was no aliens, no grand shootout, nothing. It fell flat. And having one actor play two characters was fuckin' stupid.

Shame they wasted such a good performance from Thewlis for this campy ass shit. Carie Coon was shit, Obi-wan did a piss poor job acting, the whole thing was shit. Fuckin' shit, besides MEW and Thewlis. There was literally no action, several episodes where fuck all happened, pretty much an elitist jackoff stroke session.

And to think they fuckin' canned Tyrant so Fargo could air during the Summer along with Crack Cocaine: Electric Jigaboo

>>84167598
As far as Gloria is concerned, Nikki didn't love Ray

>>84167667
Saying its shit makes you look like an idiot. Season was a solid 7/10

>>84167546
It's very good. Ignore the shitposters and go watch it.

>>84167667

Is that why they let Tyrant go? Damn shame, but considering how badly Jamal's character got shafted, it's probably for the best.

>>84167586
The truth as what we say it is vs the truth as what it actually is

How much time passed? I couldn't see the numbers on the clock.

>>84167779

Tyrant was more due to the violence in Syria and they were filming in Lebanon and Israel IIRC and they're a bunch of kikes and wanted to save money. Final season of Tyrant had a shitload of CGI and shit to save money.

>>84167706

But it wasn't, unless you like fart sniffing tomfoolery.

OFFICIAL FARGO RATINGS
SEASON 1: 10/10
SEASON 2: 9.5/10
SEASON 3: 9/10

pleb filter

>>84167827

So much for that ceasefire. Oh well, what can you do? At least we got Brown Cersei out of it.

if this show is a dramatization of actual events
where the fuck would any mention of the deaf
character come about? only the girl knew of him
and no one else talked about him

>>84167845

Nah, more like:

S1: 9
S2: 10
S3: 4

>>84167864

>twist: Wrench has been the story teller since season 1.

>>84167827
>But it wasn't, unless you like fart sniffing tomfoolery.
You can't say this and expect your opinion to be taken seriously

>>84167405
> Wouldn't you?
No.

>>84167845
S1: 9/10
S2: 10/10
S3: 7/10

>>84167916

Sorry, I voted for Trump and I want some fuckin' action in television shows and just not an hour of talkin' and purdy music and scenery.

If I wanted that shit, I'd watch Downtown Assholes on PBS.

>>84167667
> besides MEW and Thewlis
MEW acting was shit too.

>>84167944
>Downtown Assholes

It's Downton Assholes, you shitlord!

>>84167591
emmit went in looking for the salad, saw the pictures of him and sy happy in the past--something he tried to recapture in the past 5 years--and then he opens the fridge, sees the cake which symbolizes varga's gluttony and greed and evil, which reminds you of the sins he committed to get to where he is, and then he gets killed

i guess salad was supposed to be wholesome and good or something

Bad television

How come Emitt just drove away?

>the one thing I can't abide is waste
>throws up all his food
what did he mean by this

>>84168033
He got everything he needed from the food. From what we saw it looked like he just chowed that shit down

>>84168022
God helped him.

>>84168022
he's a coward, cheered at the screen when i saw the gun and wrench

>>84168081
His car ran out of fuel

I get how people liek this season because it did a decent job at the whole narrative vs truth thing but to be honest that is all it did well.

The writing besides Varga wasn't great and actually comical at times.
The pacing was horrendous.
Cinematography was shit compared to previous seasons.
The acting was generally bad compared to the other seasons, no special performance, Varga did a decent job but was gated by everyone elses lack of ability.

most importantly the characters were dogshit besides Varga. Seriously, they were all moronic cowards or superficial psychopathic hitmen. the exception to that was the most boring mary sue character I've ever seen.

That led to the worst atmosphere out of the 3 fargo seasons ever. There was no gravity, the show almost became a comedy seeing how emmit and sye would react to varga or the feud between the brothers.

This season was weak, it had no weight to it, there was no presence.

The idea was great in theory and they did a alright job reining things in at the end but a rewatch would easily show how poorly executed the idea was.

>>84167586
You have the narrative, which is the story that gets told because it's what makes sense and follows a logical sequence.

Then you have the truth, which gets hidden and belittled because it doesn't make sense and is tough to cope with.

People prefer the narrative by and large, because making sense of things is comforting. But there is always a struggle to bring the truth to light, even if only one person in the entire world believes the truth. Apply that to this season as you will.

>>84168097
there was a cut, probably stole some fuel like the rat he is

>>84167996

No it wasn't.

>she was pretty
>she was eye candy
>her eyes were beautiful

That's literally her job.

>>84168022

It's one of those "omg kino noah did some crazy shit" things. Basically when MEW was at the bowling alley with Dalton Voss and he tells her what to recite and she'd know when to recite it, and then by reciting it she took too long to kill the guy so the cop came and then she died because she was trying to kill the cop to get her revenge, which put her at odds with god or something like that.

his car stopped because he was supposed to die, why else would she magically be the first car to pull up behind him? but it went to shit and he got a reprieve.

>>84165982
Well it wasn't boring. I was on the edge of my fucking seat waiting to see who was right.

>>84168292
>he thought something was going to happen
as soon as they darkened varga i knew it was over

>>84166044
Vivaciously Magnanimous

>>84168102
This.

>>84166709

This.

I honestly think most of the people who didn't like this season just straight up didn't get it.

2>3>1

And I really like season 1.

>>84168523
>y-you didnt get it!!!
this season wore its themes on its fucking sleeve. there is NOTHING difficult to get

>perception vs reality/truth
>the world sometimes isnt what you think it is
that was IT. NOTHING ELSE. nothing deeper, and it wasn't even subtle

season 1 was about characters, this season tried to be about themes before characters and didnt execute well at all. lester was better than everything in this season

>>84168523
I think that a lot of the interpretations are making it quiet better. (Specifically the Gloria and Truth one) But I feel as a whole the season was more sloppy then the past ones.
I'll wait a year and rewatch with benefit of having the theories to make up my mind.
Though its funny now that everyone is saying Season 2 is the best, after when it first ended, they claimed it was shit

>>84168577
>Forgetting the themes of identity and "A persons place in the world"

>>84168623
you mean the themes from season 2? yeah, they were great there. what a masterpiece of television season 2 was

Only been watching on and off, but did they ever say how this is connected to 1988?

>>84168669
Are you saying that because they were used once, they can't be used again?
fucking idiot

>>84168689
>Only been watching on and off
Why even bother you fucking idiot

So if this season was all Truth vs. Narrative what can you take as implied in the final scene? If you want the good ending of the wicked being brought to justice, is that just a narrative the viewer is creating because the truth of Varga escaping and corruption prevailing is the hard truth?

What someone said about the ending of Peter and the Wolf having Peter take the Wolf the zoo was compelling as well though.

>>84168694
no, im saying lou did it infinitely better than gloria did, and more blatantly, it wasnt done well at all this season. gloria's "identity" realization moment was great in the bar, but then it led nowhere and she didnt change as a character at all. she didn't finally help

not to mention gloria was so far removed from the rest of the season that her little identity arc (which went nowhere) is not even close to being a major theme of the season

h-he can't keep getting away with it!
he has to stop bullying coon

>>84168727
It's called having a life, faggot. It's usually on in the background when I'm doing other stuff.

>>84168774
Her being so far from the story is part of the theme. I'll agree though that it could have been done better, and Episode 10 she should have played a better part. Maybe being the cop to find Nikki and Emmit, and her shooting Nikki. Would help to break her out of her world.

>>84168861
not a good idea. no point to watching something like this if you arent going to pay attention to every second

>>84168861
First off, putting an hour to yourself isn't not having a life
Second, don't pay half attention to a show that is mostly dialogue based, then ask to be spoonfed