you'd think they have people to help prevent this kind of thing.

>>84135935

They do. Those people said "put Tom Cruise in it".

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>>84135935
>The Dark Universe will be canned before it even gets off the ground
Feels good man

Seriously what were they even thinking with this film? It's a 'remake' with zero charm like the Frasier movies had. The modern setting for a mummy movie was a terrible decision and besides based cruise being in it, i think he was miscast.

They've already made shit tons of money overseas. Doesn't matter if movies suck anymore. OP is fag.

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but muh dark universe!!

>>84135935
No dark universe for (you)

Shamalamamadong made up for it with split. 276 million worldwide gross on a 9 million dollar budget

>>84135935
It won't lose money. It's already made it's budget back and the international market will save it.

>>84136000
>>84136043
What a stupid idea. It's literally the answer to a question no on asked. Did anyone really WANT a franchise based on the interconnectedness of Universal's classic monsters? Did anyone actually want some huge crossover with Dracula, Frankenstein, the Wolfman, and the Creature from the Black Lagoon? Why did Universal ever think this was going to work?

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DOA

good. fuck this lazy re-hash trash

>>84136072
The most embarassing aspect is that Dr. Jekyll is a supporting character in The Mummy, and his entire role is to set up the expanded universe. They took the worst part of Iron Man 2 and stuck it into their first film.

>>84136072
It worked once with Monster Squad.

>>84136072
>expanded universes make money
>what characters do we own?
It was worth a shot

>>84136088
Oh shit. I thought the Hollywood Handbook guys were just fucking around in the episode today. I didn't know they were actually doing this. Hollywood has lost touched with reality.

>>84136071
>It's already made it's budget back
I don't think so. The studio doesn't get that much revenue from international box office. And still, if you put a bunch of money and use a lot of time to make a money, only to get the money back, that's a loss.

>>84136034
It didn't make a shit ton of money, it did ok but now Transformers is coming out and will fucking crush everything.

>>84136208
Why the fuck do people still keep going to the Transformers movies?

>>84136233
Because foreigners have trash tastes in movies even more so than the majority of American plebs.

>>84135962
The sad state of the movie industry, folks.

>>84136233
I bet even Bay doesn't know.

>>84135935
no one in Hollywood knows what the word "no" means or how to say it to anyone with any power in Hollywood. everyone is to chicken shit to tell anyone else "no" for fear of being blacklisted from working with them again

>>84136270
>Because foreigners have trash tastes

This.

In general and in movies

>>84136233
Because once Pacific Rim underperformed at the box office, Bayformers became the only game in town for giant robots punching shit, and people really enjoy that.

>>84135935
Well that's what you get when you come up with an original idea for a movie. People don't want it. They want sequels, reboots, something they're familiar with. The Mummy was just too 'nouveau' if you pardon my French.

>>84136233
cool looking fight scenes between giant robots that last 20seconds. yeah it's stupid and sucky but it's more than the Mummy had

>>84136233
Transformers are cool.

>>84136233
>why do people go to movies about giant robots that beat the shit out of each other. oh, they can also turn into cars and planes and shit
i dunno, these are the same people who go see movies about magic people with laser swords or movies with guys whose super power is super math so he can figure out how to bounce a shield off 5 surfaces and it returns to his hand

>>84136334
Step up your bait game.

>>84135935
>make a proper scary Mummy remake set in Egypt with an actual mummy
>make bank because people love those movies

>make some weird supernatural mission impossible with a skinny grey bitch
>lose money

Why are the Jews so dumb? Why didn't they invite the based Aryan Sommers to direct?

>>84136349
But the thing is, the robot part takes up a small portion of the film, maybe the last act. Most of it is shitty human characters. Star Wars at least constantly uses the setting and universe's rules to its advantage.

>>84136424
I mean, Brendan Fraiser beat them to the punch by having an action Mummy Movie.

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>other studios desperately floundering

Good, good. Soon all your entertainment will be provided by the mouse.

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http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/the-mummy/50233/the-mummy-director-alex-kurtzman-didn-t-make-the-film-for-critics

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>>84136469
Jesus, this go-to excuse for making shit is getting old.

>>84136469
Oh, so it is for the fans that love classic horror?

The jews will do their magic

>>84136469
Did he said he made it for Asians? 'cause they're the only ones watching the movie.

>>84136270
>Because foreigners have trash tastes

or maybe you just get shot too often to enjoy movies

>>84136088
I love how they made the two actually tall actors sit down so you wouldn't see that Tom Cruise is a manlet

>>84136296
I think this pretty much sums it up.

>>84136721
>>84136721
t. american height fetishist

>>84136798
Nah nigga. Im 172 myself. I just love how embarassed he seems to be over that

Also, I'm from Europe

>>84136581
Except it's becoming increasingly true in today's world where critics feel the need to virtue signal and bring politics into reviews more than ever.

Not saying THIS movie is good but worrying about what critics say these days is pointless. The sooner we stop pandering to critics and media the better.

They set the franchise on Cruise control and ig went right off a cliff.

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>>84135935
Cruise literally saved the movie with re-writing the 3rd act and making Nick get possessed. You people should be thanking him for making it not totally forgettable

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>>84136000
>not wanting to see a continuation of the best film couple of 2017

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Yeah, we were the ones who could have prevented this, but they obviously pandered to the wrong crowd.

I watched the film on Monday, I wanted to fuck that mummy so bad.

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>>84137743
She is very beautiful yes. But make sure to use appropriate words when talking about a Goddess

>>84136270
this. fucking thirdies

>>84136466
Heard information about the young han solo movie?

>>84137739
And we'd call it CIA Rises

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>>84137707

>>84136703
Not that guy, or American, but it's a fact.


imagine spending most of Pulp Fiction in a less interestingly written language. you don't get to appreciate the dialogue. imagine reading most of annie hall-Most of Woody Allens mannerisms and facial expressions go past you, because you're preoccupied reading what the shit he's saying.

now couple that with asians, who as with anything else in culture, prefer extravagance and overacting (kpop, bruce lee, japanese TV)

arts like acting, cinematography and script are all lost on the mulititude of non-fluent english speakers (especially asians, because their culture is so different).

foreigners spend 50% of the movie reading subtitles (which means it's not the exact original script), but it also comprimises acting performance.

>>84136270
>foreigners
You mean China right. Because that is what we are talking about here.

>>84138677
>foreigners spend 50% of the movie reading subtitles
wew lad
You don't read subtitles consciously. It happens automatically.

>>84135935
you can't escape her.
she's got plans for you!

>>84136925
This. Look at BvS. I liked it, but I could see it had problems. I don't mind critics bashing it, but when you see how many of them bring up "toxic masculinity, misogyny, right wing, fascist" and other buzz words into a movie where a guy dressed up as a bat fights an alien, it's amazing they get paid for it. It's a clear disconnect.

>>84136233
It's not so bad man. They're just shitty action movies. It's like asking why people still go to McDonalds when it isn't good for them. Or why they smoke. People just like junk every once in a while. and Michael Bay is REALLY good at making the movie equivalent of junk food.

>>84135935
It was alright.
It's one star out of 10 less than Wonder Woman.

>>84136721
>5'11"
>tall

>Universal Monsters cinematic universe
>The Werewolf, Dracula and The Mummy alredy done
>All of them flop

w e w

>>84136000
>only capeshit make money

The absolute state of Hollywood.

>>84141588

there was a wolfman movie?

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>>84135935
>guy who made pic had "bomb" in mind
>use "flop" instead

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>>84141611

Oh yes it was.

Wolfman and Dracula movies because of their failure were kicked out from the "cinematic uinverse", but they were supposed to be on it from the start.

>>84136053
plus Get Out: $250m, budget: $4.5m

Then there's that Spics & cars franchise that foreigners love.

>>84141701
>when Dark Universe will be possible no matter the huge flops of their individual movies thanks to blacks and spics

wtf i love multiculturalism now

>>84136072
I wanted it badly and still do.

>>84136072
>Did anyone really WANT a franchise based on the interconnectedness of Universal's classic monsters

mmm yes?

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>all these different franchises trying sooo hard to be the next MCU with interconnected movies that all building up to one big team-up movie that keep failing at every hurdle and have not one of them even managed to get to the big team-up movie even though the MCU will be having it's fourth by next year and they've had almost a decade to try and play catch up

>>84135935
No Fraser, no watch. Boycott this shit movie

>>84141901
MonsterVerse is doing alright, might be the only other one that pulls it off

>>84136072
Fuck, they could've just had a movie where all the monsters are already in it. There's no need for this kind of set up, at least not as much as there was with the Avengers.
The whole thing just feels superfluous. No one wants this. It's tired.

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>>84135935
What is even more embarrassing is that Dracula Untold actually got better online scores than the Mummy.

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It does seem like Cruise took this movie over and made it just another Tom Cruise movie.
It was Knight and Day, Jack Reacher and Mission Impossible except with a mummy in it.
The zero G scene proves that, why the fuck is that scene the selling point of a god damn mummy movie!? That scene should be in Mission Impossible 6. I love Tom Cruise but he keeps making the same movie over and over again.

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>>84136721
>Depp
>tall

>>84142796
>that pic
LITERALLY made for bbc

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>>84138677
Jesus Christ you're retarded.

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>>84135935
FAKE NEWS

It's actually a financial success, already made a lot of profit and it's still making millions,so both the movie is a success and the universe is good and stable.Ignore the shills that wan't this to fail badly and present fake statements.

>>84143042
You BLACKED posters are the worst.

>>84143156
>130M budget
>80-100M marketing
>dat shitty box office
>most of it overseas
Yep that's a bomb alright. Then again they couldn't have known that Wonder Woman was going to be such a massive hit

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>>84143156
>ignoring the massive marketing budget
>ignoring that the studio doesn't get all of the box office, they have to split it with the theaters
You're the shill, this movie is a massive flop. It needed to make AT LEAST $400 million for the studio to greenlight the rest of the Dark Universe and it'll take a miracle for it to reach $340 million. It's over.

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>>84136000
>This is the second time it's failed to get off the ground

>>84143275
>>84143296

>hurr durr every movie got to make at least 1 billion $ otherwise it's a flop
Nope.Still made a profit and its only going to make more money.
Also the domestic gross its not really important,americans are irrelevant.If it was really that important all hollywood movies will only get released only in Usa and nowhere else.They do make money overseas,stay mad.
Also the official budget of the movie is 125m $ not 130m $ nice disinformation u got there.

>>84143473
>analysts say it's going to lose 90 millions
>one autismal shill say it's making cash because his fee fees say so
Hmm...

>>84141593
Low budget horror movies fron blumhouse make great margins but they're not breaking any records so you don't really hear about it, they must be the most profitable production studio in hollywood

>>84138677
I thought most English language movies were dubbed for foreign release

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>>84143473
>STILL ignoring the massive marketing budget
>STILL ignoring that the studio doesn't get all of the box office

>>84143370
What was the first?

>>84143571
They're the smartest production studio in Hollywood. Instead of blowing all of their money on 3-5 massive blockbusters they make a a dozen low budget films and as long as a couple become hits they turn a profit. Get Out cost less than $5 million and it made over $250 million at the box office so that one movie guaranteed that at the end of the year Blumhouse will be in the black. I'm shocked Hollywood hasn't caught on to this business model, it makes a lot more sense than gambling everything on a small handful of overpriced blockbusters.

More White appropriation?

>>84143742
Dracula Untold

Well, it was originally going to be a standalone movie but in the middle of production Universal decided to cash in on the cinematic universe bullshit so they changed the ending to setup future movies.

>>84135935
What if this movie comes back from the dead.

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>>84136060
He's back, baby!

>>84136314
Reminder that Pacific Rim bombed in América for a Adam Sandler movie...amerilards everyone

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>>84136581
>Fans LOVE the movie. Critics HATE it.

>>84135935
"Hey! You know all those famous monster movies we had and the various mash ups between them? What if we took those monsters, gave them the 'ol MCU treatment and make them all super heroes that will join forces? People really like those movies and those monsters sorta have super powers, right? We could totally make super heroes out of the Universal monsters. This won't piss off anyone in any way. And we'll have Tom Cruise! Everyone loves Tom Cruise!"

>>84136581
>#Littyforthefansnotthecritics
baka Rock

>>84136581
Kurtzman and The Rock should do a movie together.

>>84142576
Probably because it had schlock in it. I mean the trailer showed him turn into a massive swarm of bats that formed a giant hand made of bats and attacks legions of soldiers with the giant hand made of bats.

>>84136072
i dont understand what they are going for? these are HORROR movies, not action flicks.

>>84143753
At this point, marvel movies are basically guaranteed to at least make it's money back, and WB seems to be doing better recently, but Superman and Batman are still pretty safe bets.

The whole Cinematic Universe meme was stupid anyways. I want to blame Marvel for starting it, but they at least seem like that thought it out instead of just trying to force it ASAP for those meme bucks.

All they had to do was make lower budget scary movies instead of action flicks and they could have printed money. Why would you want to directly compete with MCU, DCEU, and 2 Buff Bald Guys With Bad Cinematography instead of competing against evil nuns and dolls?

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>>84135935
Producers are the biggest retards on the planet.

They are literally "idea guys" who spend all day on Twitter looking at what trending and sending emails to directors telling them to shoehorn #NationalSelfieDay into the film somehow.

>>84144234
How is "MIB with ghosts" an idea?

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Brendan would have made this film a success

>>84141679
Oh god, what a disaster.

>hire Hugo Weaving and have him do absolutely nothing
>my mom killed herself, lol, actually she was killed by a werewolf, lol fooled you! Oh wait, you weren't fooled?
>I don't even know what I was supposed to think of Anthony Hopkins clearly being the villain from the very first moment of the film, yet it takes forever for Benicio to figure it out
>the trailer is 90% clips from a nightmare sequence
>just put in some stupid quote about man being the real monster at the end to pretend this film had any sort of theme or moral to it

>>84135935
>Production Budget: $125 million
>Worldwide: $295,541,534
>flop
How.

>>84144116
(good) horror movies are hard to produce and make less money than action flicks

fuck off with your silly quality over quantity ideas

>>84141901
What would Dark Universe even do a team-up movie for? Fighting aliens or something?

>Classic movie monsters like Dracula, Frankenstein, and the Werewolf saving the world from an alien invasion

Actually I take that back, I'd watch the shit out of that.

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>>84144561
nigga you already can

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>>84136000
>Next film is already in post-production and another in pre-production
>There are anons this retarded posting on /tv/

>>84137729
Are there any good movies out there when the protagonist joins the villain?

>>84144415
That's also not including sales from DVD/BluRay/Digital.
Really makes you think!

>>84144415
You're ignoring the two other components that go into a film being a commercial success that have been posted already: the amount spent on advertising and the fact that the studio doesn't get 100% of the profits because the theaters also see some of it through ticket sales.

>>84135935
nobody wants to see anything related to the middle east. its nothing personal its just how it is.

the gods of egypt shit failed. mummy failed. even 30 dark zero shit didnt beat the avengers

and that is the metric. will it beat the heavy contender comic book movie franchise. a stupid virtue signaling oscar bait piece of crap would be praised even as its box office results failed to break even with the budget

>>84144981
>nobody wants to see anything related to the middle east

That's bullshit. All those movies you mention weren't that good in general. If they had done anything other than try to make an "epic" super hero movie out of The Mummy, people would have seen it.

If they had Brendan maybe

>>84144851
>DVDs and BDs not even out yet
>included in gross from tickets

sure buddy

>>84144917
>M-Muh advertising
Oh, you mean the advertising that I've seen literally none of? Oh boy they sure must have went all out on their marketing budget. I really enjoyed all those adverts that I never saw anywhere.
>>84145090
>Let's shove an aging actor to play a part in a movie that has nothing to do with his version of the mummy movie
Yeah, and he should have been in Wonder Woman too, you fucking moron.

>>84145165
>Being this dense
What I'm saying, is that it's not out on DVD/BluRay/Digital yet, so there's a lot of money there that will affect how much money the movie made.

>>84135935
Would the movie have been better if Tom's character would've done what everyone would, join up with the mummy qt?

>>84144917
Because studios make fuck all from the chinese box office and that budget doesn't include marketing. $95M in the loss could be lowballing, this was a bomb all around

>>84145090
Fucking this. Brendan is a likeable, funny, charming guy. You don't feel anything for Tom Cruise's character, he just comes across as a smarmy bellend.

>>84145335
I never said it wasn't. I mentioned the advertising and profit sharing as a part of factoring in if a movie is a success or not because the anon didn't understand why it was a flop. It no different than someone getting their pay check and wondering why they have so little left over after the taxes are taken out and they pay their bills.

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>>84145277
>save woman you've had sex with once

or

>become a GOD

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>>84145335
Why do you fags keep bringing up money spent on advertisment?
I literally didn't see any adverts for it anywhere.
Hell, I didn't even know the movie was playing in theaters until I went to my cinema and asked what they were playing that day.
>Anons are actually using muh advertisement as a reason why they think it's a flop

>>84145523
Just because you don't watch anything that isn't on a computer screen or go outside doesn't mean they didn't advertise it. I've seen plenty of TV ads and posters at theaters. Also advertising =/= doing huge spectacles i.e the advertising done for Godzilla '98.

>>84136060

>Shalamaladingdong creates a critically and commercially successful EU on a shoestring budget

The absolute madman

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>>84145697
>Implying
I watch a lot of TV and do go outside.
Point remains that I never saw any advertisement for it, and I'm willing to bet not a lot of other people did either.

>>84136000
Why does it feel good? Do you want only capeshit movies to succeed?

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FRASERHEADS GTFIH

>>84136072
Would have been cool if they made a good Van Helsing

>>84145188
>Oh, you mean the advertising that I've seen literally none of? Oh boy they sure must have went all out on their marketing budget. I really enjoyed all those adverts that I never saw anywhere.
Yes, because you didn't see any advertisements that means no one else did. I thought I saw advertisements for this shit everywhere but that must've been my mind playing tricks on me, clearly your personal experiences reflect the world.

>>84147423
Same could said of you asshole.
>Hurr I saw them everywhere everyone else must have

>>84144764
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Monsters#Dark_Universe

None of these are in post-production. Post-production means it has already been filmed.

>>84144981
>even 30 dark zero shit didnt beat the avengers

In what world is an R rated political drama supposed to beat The Avengers?

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>>84142407
Well, they sure are giving it their best shot, what with Godzilla adding Mothra, Rodan and King Ghidorah.

>>84147491
That's exactly my point, you retard. Anecdotal evidence is worthless. You're the one who made unsubstantiated claims about the marketing so the burden of proof is on you.

>>84136000
>Feels good
Feels super good.

>>84136424
Honestly, I think Hollywood has started caring more about ideology that money in a lot of cases. Maybe even most.

>>84139598
What the fuck?

>>84149359
when you do it since childhood you just do it really fast and think nothing of it

>>84144769

Or at least where the villain isn't so bad, and their offer is pretty good.

The only reason we're even discussing this movie AT ALL is because the mummy is cute. Imagine it being another guy again, even a bigger flop.

>>84136088
Oh no, hope we still get to see Depp's latest iteration of le quirky eccentric man

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>>84137729

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>>84136581
>it was made for the people who liked the movie!

>>84150065
this show was my jam

>>84137729
It's amazing that Tom Cruise is such a big actor.

>>84135935
Technically this film profited about $45 Million dollars not sure what statistics they are using.

Budget was 125 Million. Cost of publicity about 125 million...total 250 million. Current at 296 million gross. Meh. Not successful but they didn't lose money. No more dark universe for a while.

>>84136000
Is this a record? Two failed attempts at a cinematic universe in two movies?