You say BvS is good

>>84124139
How bout you just go watch marvel ?ovie faggot cuck?

>>84124139
if you don't like it, you don't like it. nobodies gonna change your mind. jeez anon.

>>84124180
Learn to type. Next.

>>84124139
>spoonfeed me
can't help the helpless.

>>84124193
If I missed things I can. That's possible. Next.

>>84124139

you are like the faggots who hate Lynch. Too dumb to understand

>>84124215
Good defense of the film. Next.

>>84124256
Lynch is my favorite filmmaker of all time. Next.

>>84124256
>Gives no example of this film having anything going on besides splosians and edgelording

>>84124139
they can't and won't. It's a bad film. You are correct.

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>>84124256
Are you seriously comparing Lynch to Hack Snyder?

>>84124256

>Compares Lynch to Snyder
>Calls other people dumb

Aaaaaaaahahahahhahahahahhaahhahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>84124139
Christ symbolism bro.

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>>84124256

dude just read this is zathura speaking by neizthsce

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>>84124139
we have threads literally every day in which this stuff is posted, and you just want us to compile months and months of this stuff just so you can say "MARTHA?"

>>84125036
Stop invincible son

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>>84125083
i made this for you

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>>84125133
I made this.

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>>84125152

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HviyAxHnlhA

You have to be a pakistan to like it lad

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>>84125475
https://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2016/03/11/inside-chris-terrios-vision-for-batman-superman-and-justice-league/

https://vimeo.com/189876347

http://pulpklatura.tumblr.com/post/141843209469/batman-v-superman-the-modern-revenge-tragedy

http://hiddeninsnow.blogspot.com/2016/04/batman-v-superman-when-critics-dont.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p5-14rjWUM

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>>84125562

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>>84125598
When Superman saves the child from the burning apartments, he is surrounded by dead people embracing him, even worshipping him. But Superman doesn't happily take it all with a smile. In fact, he reluctantly turns his head away in what appears to be him feeling some sort of dread or pain.

I think this is Superman realizing that he is surrounded "by the dead". That he is so different from them, they will know death, he will not. Maybe it's even part shame, knowing that our fates are set in stone while his isn't. A God among men. But he also desires to be one of us.

In his fight against Batman, Batman says "you don't know what it means to be brave. Men are brave". And this is true to some extent. An immortal God figure cannot be brave as there is no risk involved. "It's time you learn what it means to be a man" means coming face to face with death, which is what separates Superman from man. If he can't do that, then he cannot be brave and he cannot be man.

This dilemma of death is eventually adressed in the climax of the film, as he comes to terms with his own mortality, and pays the ultimate price of a human being. Superman becomes man. Superman overcomes the final trial. And that is accepting his own death. And this is when Batman finally recognizes Superman as man.

Bravo Snyder

>>84125475
Op here. Listening to this now.

>>84125639
Interesting.

>>84124139
the answers you seek, lie within

https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/83831561
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/72353410
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/78000000
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/80881672
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/80876406
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/80992416
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/71524522
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/72402024
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/78072830
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/78413908
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/80881672
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/80904608
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/80987560
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/80992416
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/81399484
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/81424866
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/83831561

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>Put in charge of adaptation of the ultimate superhero deconstruction.
>Makes characters that are supposed to be losers, delusional or downright psychopaths look "cool".

>Put in charge of straight superhero adaptations that are supposed to be the foundation of a shared universe of ongoing superhero stories.
>Goes into full deconstruction mode, turning everybody into pathethic losers, violent whackos or unlikeable assholes.

>>84125036

MARTHA?

>>84125962
Lol

>>84125855
anon here. Cucking you

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>>84125152
>>84125152
>Jon_a_Faaaarm

>>84124139
James Cameron, and literally most of the MCU writers seem to dig his style. Even one of them saying he gets a bad rap.

>>84126759
James Cameron hasn't been good in decades.

>>84126806
your mom hasn't got good at sucking dicks and you don't see Jamal complaining.

Garbage movie

>story
Pretty fucking stupid and pointless overall.

>plot
A complete mess. Pacing?What's that? Jumping around every 5 minutes for the first half an hour. Editing is completely shot. We go from one area to the next with little to no transition at times. Theatrical is filled with plot holes.

>characters
Superman's motives don't matter, Lex forces him to fight Batman. Batman's motives don't matter, Superman's mother shares his mother's name. No arcs for any characters.
>B-batman had an arc!
Did he? He killed thugs right after the martha twist, so that wasn't it. You could say he had an arc at the very end of the movie, but offscreen doesn't count.

Lex is probably one of the worst acted characters in a blockbuster this entire year.

>cinematography
Would be decent if Snyder didn't shove Jesus imagery down your throat every 5 seconds.

>score
Decent. Nothing memorable or great. Wonder Woman's theme is cheesy.

>action
Decent. Actual fight vs. the two heroes is pretty dull and short for the hour+ build up. Very underwhelming. Warehouse scene is the best fight without question. It was great. Everything with Doomsday was worse than. Attack of the Clones.

Overall this movie is pretty bad and I'd recommend just watching all the action scenes then moving on.

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>>84126821
You said that in another thread. Move along.

>>84125639
>>84124256
>>84125562
>>84125475
>>84125036

Wouldn't this movie be more powerful if Batman was Batman and didn't kill? The whole movie he is going to break his rule because of his feeling of powerless in relation to Superman... But in the end he doesn't because he sees he too is a man?

But instead he just kills the whole time so when he goes to kill Superman it's kinda like who gives a fuck.

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>>84125475
K I N O
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>B-batman had an arc!
Did he? He killed thugs right after the martha twist, so that wasn't it. You could say he had an arc at the very end of the movie, but offscreen doesn't count.

Can anyone argue against this?

Op here and this is one of my biggest gripes.

>>84126978
>people aren't allowed to meme
cuck off.

They tried to in the 90s but because of Batman & Robin fucking things up it ended up not happening. They tried again in 2011 with Green Lantern, but it failed as well.

If Superman Returns would have done great, and Nolan's Batman coming out at around the same time we might have seen it there as well.

DC/WB is just not well managed. They handle their movies like play-doh. Whenever their last movie doesn't perform to their expectations the next movie in the line up suffers. Not to mention the constant changes in directors, reshoots, and changes in tone completely ruining a movie.

We saw it with Suicide Squad, and we saw it with the quip heavy trailer of Justice League. Wonder Woman will be another Catwoman, just ridiculous in its execution. They're just scrambling to figure out what audiences want and keep changing the whole thing.

They should honestly scrap everything and get the people that did the Justice League Animated Series to fucking write the scripts.

>>84127478

>They should honestly scrap everything and get the people that did the Justice League Animated Series to fucking write the scripts.

Fuck. Yeah.

>>84127279

They can't argue against that.

>>84127215
Yeah, it would be.

>>84127258
>>84125941

Why would Jack have to be told to exit the building in the beginning? He couldn't see the aliens destruction ship thingy knocking down buildings right outside of the window?

>le capekino meme
wew lads

>>84126889

>score
>decent

I didn't hate this movie. but the score felt REALLY lackluster. Hans Zimmer didn't even try to hide the fact that he was coming off the Nolan films where he got to spend years crafting his own unique batman sound, and now WB comes to him and says "Ayy Johan, we need to to whip us up a brand new Batman theme...".

He strait up admitted that's why he asked Junkie XL to help him out... BvS is also the most recent movie where he said "I'm never doing another Superhero movie again".... this is just shortly after he felt genuinely proud and optimistic about his work on Dark Knight and Man of Steel.

I wish I could find the interview, but it's somewhere on youtube.

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>>84124139
KINO