OOOOOOOOOOODIN

A major reason Kung Fu Panda was so great

last episode sure was especially cheesy

Cocksucker?

>>84123313
The season has been hit or miss for me. It's like Fuller took all the filler and pretension from Hannibal Season 3 and condensed it down to 8 episodes.

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>>84123339
Swegin

Such a laughable moment.

I'm marathoning the whole season, about to watch last episode

Episode 7 was a chore to watch, and Sweeny is my favourite character so far. A fucking hour of Essie fucking greedy men and putting milk on a window to explain why Sweeny came to america. A 5 minute montage would have been more than enough

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>>84123339
>>84123392

"I have no interest of feeding your soul from the vagina nebula".

Technical Boy speaking some mad truths. Bilquis is a fucking monster and doesn't deserve any bit of sympathy.

>>84123153
Man Ian McShane is great. I disliked practically every aspect of this show aside from the concept itself and still came back each episode just because of him.

>>84123992
Him and Daniel Faraday Jesus were the only good aspects of the show. They should make Dan Faraday part of the recurring cast.

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>>84123961
>Hands free, honeypot
What a god tier roastie repellent line

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Best show I've seen in the last 7 years.

It saddens me that 90% of /tv/ is literally too stupid for this show. All the imagery and dialogue is lost on them, so they just call it "shit" because exposition isn't spoonfed and the characters don't do what they would've done.

You make alot of jokes but you guys are just as bad as the airhead thot who's on her phone the whole movie and goes:
>whos that guy
>what happened
>ugh i hate her
>why did she do that
>when is the hot guy coming back on screen

>>84124235

its because everyone one this site is a teenager

>>84124304
Yeah i'm too old for this place now I guess.

>>84124235

you have shit taste puppy.

>>84124490
Sorry but Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones are crap to me.

>>84124235
>All the imagery and dialogue is lost on them, so they just call it "shit"
Except both the show and the series really are just shallow encounters with mythological entities in a modern setting over and over again. It's not unwarranted to ask that the narrative and imagery contain some more depth or purpose. It has a cool factor because we don't get to see shows with mythology in them like this one very often but it certainly isn't great and neither is the book, sorry.

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>>84124232
Fucking good line. I initially though Technical Boy was a punk...and while he's still a punk dude has pizazz. His "apology" in the police station had me in stitches. His replacement grills just make me that much more happy.
>I like that even he hates the tech facehugger.
>I would have smoked some frog.

I wanted him to be all decked out for that moment.

Can that stupid dead bitch go away already? No one cares about her fucking love life or lack of it.

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>>84124235
I love it, as well. God mythoi are fascinating to me, and this show portrays them in an entertaining way. Plus, I'm a sucker for great casting. I was already sold because of Ian McShane, but when Cripsin Glover showed up, I was all smiles.

Technical Boy and Media are great, I'm excited to see more about them.

>>84125305
they've made up so much shit for her character
shes seen in the book about 4 times

>>84123313
anyone else catch the bunny pooping jellybeans?

>>84124235
for all the good things this show does, all of cunt wifes scenes and shadow moons subpar acting take more than one point away for sure.

There is a clear, defined balance between episodes that focus on Gods doing God things being amazing (the episode with the dude with the hammer and his daughters, the finale etc) and cunt wife being a cunt and being on boats and shit being terrible

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so i guess there won't be any mamaji, right?

>>84126243
you mean kali? next season

>>84126243
They aren't at house on the rock yet, they just teased it.

Is this worth watching? Heard it's Reddit-tier.

>>84126359
how do you know

>>84126465
because she first shows up at the house on the rock and the house on the rock is next season

>>84126465

Confirmed by Fuller in a recent interview..

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Why the fuck it's so different from the book? It's all over the place.

>>84124235
this woman's tittays nearly made me cream myself, but then i looked at her painfully average face and saved a nut. she doesn't have an ugly face, just not one that i will spill seed for

One big gripe I hear about it is how they spend too little time on Shadow and Wednesday's story but to me the show (and the book) aren't really about them. It's about America and the way the culture shifts and engulfs old ideas into it's melting-pot pantheon. If you watch it for a central story you'll be disappointed but if you watch it as almost an anthology you'll find some really interesting stories.

I want to pray all over Easter

you have to be pretty stupid to not know who he is within the first 20 minutes of the show. he says wednesday is his day...HMMM I WONDER WHY

>>84126839

This is my first Fuller show., but my hunch from seeing this is that he's the kind of creator that listens to everyone involved in the creation process, tries to put every last one of his own ideas up to and beyond budget limit, then throws everything in the kitchen sink hoping for something to stick.

>>84123313
it was but based mcshane made it tolerable. the reveal scene was great. i liked him trolling jesus and kissing up to ostara. HAPPY FUCKING EASTER, for a second he sounded like swearengen ;_;

>>84126839
change of medium requires changes in presentation of the story. there's a reason they showed anansi in episode 2, so he didn't seem so out of nowhere in episode 8. there's a reason they threw vulcan into the show, it's so the ending of the show doesn't seem like such an asspull. as for all the laura parts, i think that's a cast balancing thing, so that you've got a a more equal ratio of male and female leads, and they end up shoving shit that is irrelevant to make this work (the majority of episode 7 was meaningless)

>>84127142

That's not stupid, that's uneducated. Stupid would be not making the link after the satellite speech.

>>84127088

My main problem with Shadow is how much they changed the character. He's a lot smarter/savvy in the book.

See for example the Mad Sweeney fight being a set up to test him is something Shadows himself understands as it happens. Issue is, you don't have access to his thought process in the series. So they need to have Sweeney himself express it to another character. Yet there's nothing added to replace all those moments.
Shadow in the series is reduced to his constant state of stupor, since it's one of the few things he actually expresses.

How do power levels work in this? Wouldn't any given Jesus steam role all of them?

>>84127364
I forgot about that, yea shadow knows its a test in the book, he is kinda dumb though, well not dumb just very passive

>>84127366
white Jesus could for sure, but he wouldn't its Jesus

>>84127366
talking about raw power?sure.
but people believe he is a pacifist,so he is.
hes not going to participate in a war.

>>84127433
>White Jesus
There were several, the one on the pool was definitely catholic Jesus though.

>>84127404

Passive definitely. Inexpressive. But not stupid. He's a bookworm nerd kid that turned BIG once hitting puberty.

Another problem they're going to have is the relationship with Laura. They completely changed the dynamic. Laura's speech about Shadow not being there, not being really alive when they were together, is going to sound completely hollow *at best*. Manipulative at worst.

>>84127495
fine catholic jesus could wipe the floor with most of the other gods but never would

>>84127535
Mormon Jesus would.

>>84127516
well its weird the whole thing with laura, especially him meeting her at easters, they shouldn't meet again till lakeside, and she is manipulative in the book just not to this level, her bitchiness has been massively amped up

While I'm at it, is it me or did Sweeney and Laura cross a resurrected Mexican Jesus as they walked from the ice cream truck to the manor in the last episode?

I like everything about the show that doesn't involve Laura Moon

I lost the female peers lottery and ended up surrounded with pouting stoic ugly bitches that think they're secretly special and to see one shitting up an otherwise okay show is upsetting. I blame Daria for creating these sluts.

>>84127568
I think protestant Jesus might top mormon jesus, catholic jesus definitely comes out on top tho
>>84127585
yes he was their

>>84124235
>dude, ISIS destored sheba's temple because men fear women lmao
>not because they had more fiath in a more relevant god

>amerisharts genuinely think this is provocative or intelligent television

>>84127607
i think it's mostly the actress. emily browning is absolutely horrible in this

>>84127585
well Easter says unironically that one of the jesuses has a baby dinosaur,you shouldnt be so surprised.

>>84127620
But it's american catholic jesus, so wouldn't he be less powerful than his protestant version?

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>>84123153
I thought Czernobog was going with them somewhere

I find it somewhat funny that after the reveal that Odin manipulated everything - fucking up the casino job, putting Shadow into jail, killing Laura - most people still seem to have a higher opinion of him than of Laura.

did easter turn the entire world into winter? or just the area where they are?

>>84127681
idk, its the number of worshipers but its also level of belief, one die-hard 100% worshiper is probably worth more then twenty casuals

>>84127727
Odin is a god and "shit happens" personified.

Laura had agency and chose to suck a jew's dick while her man was in the can.

>>84127687
their all meeting at the house on the rock, which fuller blue-balled us on, next season

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>>84127607
Laura Moon is the Stephanie McMahon of this show. Keeps emasculating Sweeney for no reason.

if odin was as popular a god as jesus would you worship odin?

>>84127651
>unga bunga muh puppy

>no depiction of Allah
>no depiction of Yahweh

Really electrifies the frontal lobes

>>84127829
you know he asasinated her right?even if it were grimnir's orders.

>>84125877
What can you expect? Fuller is a cuck that feminizes everything, made Alan Bloom a woman and main character.

>>84127633

If they truly wish to explore the character, I really, really hope they have someone mention how much of a parody fo herself she's become. She used to impart wisdom and knowledge. Respected by Solomon for it.

Now she's reduced to sex-vampire. And the hard question is: did survival lead her to this, or did she herself with her hedonism.

There are interesting ways to give the character layers, if they so wish.

>>84127882
because they're dead

>>84126426
The only part of this show with any substance would be Ian McShane's lines. Everything else is a shallow nothing wrapped in impressive costume and make-up

>>84127928
that's kinda the undercurrent of the entire series and the main reason fucking Odin wants to tear it all down.

>>84126839
Because the book isn't long and Starz wants money

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>>84124235
>>84124304

This shit is the painful truth.

Comparing the Hannibal threads to the AG threads is absolutely mind numbing and AG had a far better first season.

Everything that's not /pol/tard whining is some equally shallow trash comment whether it's positive or negative.

>>84127760
thats not winter thats a famine, and its probably hit most if not all of the US

How is Odin powerful enough to conjure a storm & fuck people up with lightning bolts if barely anyone believes in him other than in movies?

>>84128065
Based Varg

>>84128065
i think part of it is in how people are worshiping him without realizing it, just like what happens with easter. the day wednesday is probably the most obvious example

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>>84123153
>Fuller puts a disgusting gay sex scene in the third episode to remind tumblrinas that homosexuality is gross
>It works and there is no gay shipping

>>84127786

I'm finding the god excuse to be a bit weak to be honest.

>>84128024
>the main reason fucking Odin wants to tear it all down.

That's one reason I guess.

>>84128065

Look up previous episodes. That thunder strike has been long in the making.

>>84128065
this >>84128113
and I think he's using Shadow

>>84127945
Islam would make Allah on par with all the new gods in terms of power by population alone.

So is it true that gaiman doesn'tlike the tv series

>>84127633
>this poosy is juicey
>this poosy is powerfol

If you can crush a watermelon with your meat curtains I'll call you powerful

>>84128179
The monothiestic religions don't imply any sort of give-take relationship between the worshipers and their gods. Islam is even specifically built around the concept that following every tenant guarantees nothing.

The religion is practically atheist, as by it's own scripture it is all empty ritual.

>>84128139
on top of a bunch of other shit Odin has 18 charms, here's ten

I know those spells which a ruler's wife doesn't know,
nor any man's son;
'help' one is called,
and that will help you
against accusations and sorrows
and every sort of anxiety.

I know a second one which the sons of men need,
those who want to live as physicians.

I know a third one which is very useful to me,
which fetters my enemy;
the edges of my foes I can blunt,
neither weapon nor club will bite for them.

I know a fourth one if men put
chains upon my limbs;
I can chant so that I can walk away,
fetters spring from my feet,
and bonds from my hands.

I know a fifth if I see, shot in malice,
a dart flying amid the army:
it cannot fly so fast that I cannot stop it
if I see it with my eyes.

I know a sixth one if a man wounds me
with the roots of the sap-filled wood:
and that man who conjured to harm me,
the evil consumes him, not me.

I know a seventh one if I see towering flames
in the hall about my companions:
it can't burn so widely that I can't counteract it,
I know the spells to chant.

I know an eighth one, which is most useful
for everyone to know;
where hatred flares up between the sons of warriors,
then I can quickly bring settlement.

I know a ninth one if I am in needs,
if I must protect my ship at sea;
the wind I can lull upon the wave
and quieten all the sea to sleep.

I know a tenth one if I see witches
playing up in the air;
I can bring it about that they can't make their way back
to their own shapes,
to their own spirits.

I know an eleventh if I have to lead
loyal friends into battle;
under the shields I chant, and they journey inviolate,
safely to the battle,
safely from the battle,
safely they come everywhere.

but he didn't use any of these to kill laura he used swenney who used his luck good and bad, mostly bad

>>84128377
Except that the bargain is created by humans so whos to say that ISIS proclaiming that killing kuffars gets you 72 virgins isn't a legitimate give and take?

>>84128377
Then Jesus wouldn't exist either. Prayer is enough to sustain monotheistic gods

>>84128454
people pray to and thank jesus for just about everything.

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>>84128213
Well the TV series is a boring mess driven by Fuller's personal agenda and tumblr fandom so I can see why Gaiman wouldn't respect that

>>84128429
Not a reward in life, though. So it basically amounts to "sacrifice yourself to me and you get to sacrifice yourself to me."

The idea I'm going with here is nothing about the main Judeo-Christian stuff offering just about zero earthly rewards, therefore, generates no earthly gods. Jesus and just about all of Catholicism being an exception.

I wonder how much faith is needed for the rituals to actually work. Is killing in the name of the god enough, or does there need to be actual intent and faith in the process and the god?

Interesting how it would paint the courting of Ostara in completely different light. Odin needing to buy into her to make the sacrifice work is fascinating I find.

>>84128583
>Fuller's personal agenda and tumblr fandom
you realize Gaiman is essentially a tumblrina, right? I like his writing, but I won't delude myself into thinking he is not something that he is.

>>84127882
Both are too powerful to care.

>>84128803
god is dead, negro

>>84128454

But as you saw in the episode, there are a plethora of jesus's because everyone sees a different face or believes in a different jesus, it isnt consolidated

What I really don't get is if people have created many Jesus' according to how they worship him, then why isn't Jesus trying to fulfill his prophecy of the end times, the 2nd coming etc? He fucking walks the earth....

>>84128896

Because the vast majority of people praying to or believing in jesus dont actually believe that part.

The god's are fueled by the prayers they receive.

Odin is looking to get back on top as he's porbably the oldest of the old god's on the show, as he has so many names.

>>84128869
Most of those were probably weak as shit though. Mormon Jesus and Catholic Jesus would be the strongest, the different ethnicity Jesus would be far weaker.

>>84128801
The difference is that Gaiman's writing CONTAINS minor themes appealing to that audience and Fuller basically hands the reins of the show to Chanty Binx.

>>84128996
mormons and catholics teach a kind of personal jesus concept.

>>84128962
Makes no sense though, are we saying there aren't millions of Christians praying for the second coming of Christ to wash away the world?

>>84129021
The differences in jesus would be based on differences in his origin and appearance rather than specific differences in faith.

This would mean Catholic Jesus would probably apply to different denominations who would differ on biblical interpretations that don't pertain to his origin.

So it would be divided between mainly ethnicity and origin. Jehova Witness Jesus would be a shapeshifter, for example.

>>84129070

Second coming possibly, but not all that it entails like washing away the world, this was kinda hinted on indirctly when he spoke to Easter. Not everything is cut and dry. These jesus's are the manifestations of what people believe jesus to be, so calm, forgiving, loving etc. Very few people think jesus was a wrathful force. God =/= Jesus =/= The Holy Spirit.

>>84129070
maybe he's waiting on satan/the anti-christ, he's not going to initiate the apocalypse

>>84129112
Hows this then

The original/old gods were simple entities with simple directives. Pray/thanks to me for spring, pray/thanks to me for the sun to rise, etc. Then the old testament came along with thousands of pages of what God is and isn't and thus made it impossible for a cohesive entity to form in the minds of people and thus impossible for their beliefs to form a cohesive entity. As that's how american gods is drawing this shit. Since everyone has a different take on the bible, yaweh, allah, etc, don't exist at all, because they can't.

Jesus exists because that's a very simple story that many many people can easily digest, regurgitate, and agree upon. But even then, tons of jesuses.

When will they drop the bomb-shell that is Shadow is a god too?

>>84129139
>>84129279
Ahh right, makes a bit more sense yeah. My gf loves the book, worth a read?

>>84129456
sure, its not long

>>84129432
or even better, the old testament and new testament were an attempt to make a super-god, and they ended up making no god at all. Except maybe some jesuses.

>>84129432
Well Kali is in this and she like all Hindu gods is a part of an abstract god overmind so you may be right. Staking too many powers into one being gets you nothing I guess.

papi

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How did they get out of Vulcan exactly? Why did volcano bro make him a sword if he was going to betray him? That part made no sense to me.

>>84128104
Does Vargposting means Odin took Mr. World's deal like Kek did?

>>84126839
>>84127171
Gaiman loves America, Fuller hates America

>>84129766

Vulcan made the sword because he still has a sense of duty and loyalty to Odin.

He didn't know Odin would kill him, and he made the sword to give him a chance, nothing more, nothing less. If they met on the field of battle, they would fight, but it wasn't time for a fight.

The second Vulcan said he had franchised his faith Odin was done with him, and Odin knew he'd have to kill him eventually, so he did it sooner rather than later.

>>84129656
I'm going more about how the god needs a face first.

From this logic, the reason yaweh/allah/etc don't exist is because of the bits of god creating man in god's image. Since there are limitless images of man, the judeo-christian god has no face, thus, doesn't exist.

>>84127681
Modern protestants are basically atheists while Catholics though fewer are more devout and have been bolstered by immigrants

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What if they show memes as a new god in season 2? What if Pepe gets made into a god?

>>84129896

Fuck off.

>>84128065
Shadow plays a major part in that. There is a reason wednesday wanted shadow specifically to believe in him

>>84129766
>how did they get out
drove I assume its not like the twon knew what they did
>why make the sword
he still thought he was conning odin, I guess he thought he'd make the sword agree to meet at the HOTR and then odin would fuck off and he'd report to media or w/e, it was still a dumb fucking move on his part, but then poor old hephaestus is always getting conned by 'smarter' gods
also the bit with the drink was odd, odin didn't drink it, like vulcan was trying to posion or curse him or something, idk vulcans always been kinda fucking stupid

>>84129896
media is already a god

>>84129851
The New gods formed a human appearance on their own though.

>>84129945
Media isn't memes though.

>>84130000
it literally is

>>84130000
between her and tech boy its covered, now fuck off kek, your not getting an avatar

>>84130000
nice digits

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>gods are sustained by faith and grow stronger by attaining more
>gods from long since dead religions are still around and perform miracles and shit and influence events
>the still massively popular religions's gods are nowhere to be seen
this show's premise doesn't work at all and it really bugs me because we hardly get any cool mythology series but the one we get has to be this shallow poorly thought out style over substance mess. It's gonna fail just like gods of egypt and we'll never see mythology ever again

>>84129432
Did everyone miss someone asking in the last episode if "Him" was at the part and Easter replies no? It obviously wasn't referencing Jesus as there were 100 of them

>>84130000
fuck you're retarded

>>84130031
yea she was asking about odin, dude

>>84130051
No no I know what part you're talking about, but that comes after what im talking about. Fuck now I have to rewatch it

>>84130068
yea you do the conversation goes like this
>is HE here?
>oh sure i've got a whole gaggle of them (jesuses) inside
>not the who i was referring to
>oh Him (odin) he was here tried to get me involved in some scheme
something like that

>>84129923
Why don't you believe in pepe?
He will be a god if enough people believe in him. If Odin can be as powerful as he is with a handful of prayers and stealing more cherries than some sort of small rodent in a cherry orchard, imagine the power Pepe could have considering how much we as a site glorify and exalt in his image.

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>>84130017
but thoth is in the show. he seems way more obscure than kek. People IRL have kek shrines and praise his names and do dumb shit in his name. If this show doesn't reveal kek, then it's a clear cop out.

>>84130127
But wouldn't that still hint at God being present somewhere? Since media and easter both seem to acknowledge that on some level

Iam gonna go watch EP1 of this. If i get memed by this show, /tv/ is gonna have hell to pay

>>84130162
no

I know, different interpretations, but YHWH (or the lack thereof) is really an elephant in the room here. I guess this is as much a oddity about the book as it is about the show, but my point stands.

You'd think He wouldn't care about the presence and interference of other gods, but the big G is pretty much characterized by not being willing to share. Not with the pagan gods like Odin, and not with the worldly influences like Media and Mr.World. And it's not like people don't understand that either; a lot of people see God (the Father) as the big stern look from the sky that uses nothing but AOE spells when He's angry.

>>84130161
because people actually believed in thoth, and no matter how you connect pepe to an old egyptian god, keke is really just a play on the way orcs would say lol in WoW

>>84130181
Then why would easter think that was who she was talking about? And why wouldn't easter say something more like "you know who im talking about"

>>84130012
>>84130017
Media is the personification of mankinds enthrallment into stories. She's the personification of you sitting down, watching something and being entertained and then obsessed with it.

Memes aren't exclusive to her.

Tech boy is just everyone dependency and faith in technology and the internet. He's not about the "DNA of the soul" he's more like you depending on wikipedia for knowledge because you can't be assed to remember something, needing the internet to know what everyone is up to or making sure everyone is paying attention to you, shit like that.

Mr. World is probably the closest to representing what memes actually are.

>>84130211
>>84130162
no just watch the scene again its not ambiguous

>>84130029
Of the big religions, only Bhudda has a clear image or avatar. It is forbidden in the Semitic religions to depict God's image. Thus they are abstract entities. They are not people with flaws and human characteristics like the gods of old.

>>84130190
(((Gaiman)))

>>84130209
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kek_(mythology)

>>84130238
I'm not saying it is. That definitively sounds like there is. Why would Easter even imply that was who media meant if they both know he doesn't exist. They seem like the type of people that would be in the know about this

>>84130248
Are you just saying it's a massive oversight on his part? Honestly, I think he kind of coward-ed out here.

>>84130221
negro look up the dictionary fucking definition of fucking meme

then sit down and shut the fuck up

>>84130269
yes thanks, kek came form fucking WoW, thats why we started using it, it was an ironic joke that went to far newfag, I know you all like this kekgod thing but thats its real origins, when you played as alliance and an orc typed 'lol' it would show up as 'kek'

>>84130314
Meme as coined by Richard Dawkins exists beyond television or internet.

>>84130283
dude I think you might be drunk, easter tried to imply media was asking about jesus when both knew she meant odin, this is not difficult to understand, just watch the scene again

>>84129973
>he hasn't finished the book

>>84130363
>richard dawkins coined meme

... ah, you're beyond retarded.

>>84130334
Lol this fucking ignorance
Lol turned into lel which turned into kek which turned into Kek.
People shifted to using lel once lol went mainstream. When lel was stolen by reddit we turned to kek. In time /pol/ turned kek into Kek.

>>84130313
>a form of the Hebrew name of God used in the Bible. The name came to be regarded by Jews ( c. 300 BC) as too sacred to be spoken, and the vowel sounds are uncertain.


hmmmmm

>>84129896
but the actually could show kek/keket, the egyptian god of chaos and darkness. and its appearance would be especially relevant today, what with 'meme magic' on the rise.

>>84130420
kek was widely used in the wow community for as long as wow existed.

>>84130420
sure sure, its origin is what it is, deal, its the same spelling as an old egyptian god, that is pure coincidence, it came from fucking WoW try and distort the facts all you want

>>84130399
Don't tell me, is it something retarded like ALL the New Gods are just Old Gods who somehow managed to sustain themselves off of a completely different method of worship that is even more of an asspull than Vulcan putting his name as a brand for weapons?

>>84130450
but if your going with an 'evil' egyptian god why not have apophis instead?

>>84130431
Ah, didn't know he was a Jewish person. Somehow that makes it even less excusable that God rarely got a passing mention. It's like all the characters were just trying not to say anything.

>>84130450
>Meme magic on the rise
Le Penn lost the election so /pol/ doesn't believe in meme magic anymore.

>>84130520
I'm not spoiling it, faggot. read the book or wait for fuller to shit it up or look it up on wikipedia or something.

>>84123961

I don't know, the dude she ate in the first episode sure seemed to enjoy where he was.

>>84130334
are you autistic? You just said Kek wasn't a real god and I proved you wrong. It doesn't matter what it started as, people unironically worship kek and do things in his name you dumb nigger.

>>84130595
I know he is retard, my point is this kek worship is not directed towards the actual god, and so would likely be giving the actual god no juice at all, its just powering media, and in fact probably stealing any actual worship Kek might have received

>>84130552
>/pol/ thinking their meme magic will have any influence on france, home of master tricksters derrida and foucault
they are idiots for losing faith so easily.

Contemporary religions gods aren't a part of the story. They are getting their worship and they aren't threatened by the New Gods. Odin can't recruit them and they probably hang out with other people and do their own thing.

>>84130528
kek is relevant today

>>84130643
like vulcan and ostara, kek would get a cut of the prayer profits.

>>84130643
>my point is this kek worship is not directed towards the actual god,
but you're wrong. it is directed towards him.
>In the Greco-Roman period, Kek's male form was depicted as a frog-headed man
You're acting like people are worshipping matt furie's pepe and not Kek. stop acting like a stupid fuck

>>84130520
No, and fortunately they haven't shown enough for bookfags to put it together yet. Every good con is a two man job

>>84130717
if he had turned used the appearance of the word, sure makes sense, he'd still be medias bitch tho

>>84127585
Jesus can die all the times he want and come back because people believe in him, a lot of people. If someone like Odin, the American version, dies, he wouldn't come back.

That's the point of the book, old gods trying to survive, not wanting to be forgotten.

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>>84130715
MEME GOD SPIN OFF COMEDY SHOW FUCKING WHEN

>>84130761
just like how ostara is media's bitch now, right? it's not like kek was willed back into existence by media, kek was lurking, as all the old gods have been. Like Thoth and Anubis, like Odin, like Czernobog and the Zoryas, like Bilquis.

>>84130733
they've confirmed they are keeping the main points of the ending.

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Well, maybe Kek, the actual old one, made a deal with the New Gods, and had technoboy change his "cult" in to the meme cult we all know today.

>Kek, god of day, god of night, bringer of light, vanquisher of darkness...
>Do you want to become a meme or do you want to be forgotten?

>>84130911
all gods are memes. that's kind of the point of the whole narrative.

>>84130981
his only outlet is through media though, ostara has easter 'her day' celebrated by millions of people, kek only has media

I NEED MORE EPISODES. THIS SHOW IS SO FUCKING COMFY.

>>84130998
Also, going by the book, if we take in to consideration that his options were to stay in animal form (and lets face it, a frog doesn't give him that much mobility like other) and go crazy like Horus and Ra did, eating trash and dead shit from the streets, roaming from one place to another until you are killed by something, maybe being a meme is not that bad.

>>84131036
Kek gets worship and prayers directly. Something that has been proven to be very powerful. Oestarra and Vulcan got prayers indirectly but were still pretty stronk. Kek would be stronger than both of them at this point.

>>84131036
well then what about anubis and thoth and the others mentioned? how do they continue to exist? Kek's power may have been amplified by media, but again, kek does not exist at the whim of media.

>>84131134
>Kek would be stronger than both of them at this point

>Oestarra

No

>Vulcan

Yes, but maybe just the American one

>>84131162
They exist because once someone believed in them. If they stop being worshiped they wont just disappear, they would continue living until something kills them. Nobody cares about Anubis or Thoth anymore, but they just mind their own business, Horus went crazy, nobody knows were Ra is, and so on.

If you "kill" a Jesus, for example, they would just appear again because a lot of people believes in them, if you kill Odin, Thot, etc, they would be gone for good because of the lack of belief on them (kinda the plot of the book/series). In the book they describe the place were gods nobody praises anymore go, and also a place with gods nobody even remembers anymore.

>>84127335
Apparently Gaiman himself wrote Vulcan in. He saw a statue of Vulcan in Alabama, and there actually was a factory where the powers that be had decided it was cheaper in the long run to pay out damages for lethal accidents rather than shut down the factory long enough to do a safety upgrade.

>>84131162
people remembered them, anubis, horus, ra, thoth, some egyptian gods stayed in public consciousness, and like anubis explained to the old lady she was told stories of him as a child, like we saw with esse and her children, they keep believing in some way even as adults, kek doesn't have that he only recently made it into public awareness rebranded

>>84131162
Thoth gets worshipped by occultists.

>>84123153
Season 1 is done, and that didn't even get to House on the Hill (which was Chapter 5 in the book). 1 season, streched out not even 5 chapters.

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>>84131256
>Thot

>>84131328
not him but its the same thing, lots of gods have multiple spellings

>>84129453
i hope soon, the show has purposefully been keeping him dull and uninteresting

>>84131325
seriously? ha, he's like the most passive of the egyptian gods, which isn't saying much they are all fucked up

>>84129453
He is not really a god, sure, he is Odin's son but I doubt that makes him even a demi god in the sense of what the other gods/creatures are

Even Anancy's sons seem to be mortals, with powers of course

I loved the book and I had high hopes for the show, but it's a mess. I can't lie to myself any longer. The book was like this new dish that you try at a restaurant you've visited in the past, and the dish turns out to be amazing. Then the restaurant hires a new cook named Bryan Fuller and you order that dish and Fuller adds in a ton of unnecessary bullshit subplots and sideplots and the end result is an abomination of a dish whose only resemblance to the dish you once enjoyed is the name.

At this point I don't care if the second season is canceled or not. Remember: Neil Gaiman threatened to kill himself over some of the stupid shit that Fuller wanted to add to the show.

>>84128526
>he thinks mulims don't
Everything in their lives is about islam. Everything.

>>84131408
The guy who started using Tarot Cards for divination did so under the belief that Thoth communicated with humanity through symbolism and encrypted messages in writing. So he utilized the old progenitor card set to the modern 52 playing card deck and had some artist draw up some heavily symbolic art for his own Tarot Deck, believing the results of card drawel would reveal divine knowledge by Thoth.

This deck is what survived and lead to Tarot Cards still being relevant, despite originally just being playing cards.

That's just a slice of the Thoth meme, he shows up in other stuff like the emerald tablet and other /x/ related material.

>>84131543
So the show should then depict the prophet Muhammad. But they couldn't do that, or else they'd be beheaded/killed in some other horrific manner, or at the very least be in very serious danger of that becoming reality.

>>84131408
Thoth was a human named Hermes "Thrice Great" Trismegistus. He was the master of Alchemy, Theurgy, and Astrology. He was the greatest king, the greatest philosopher, and the greatest priest. He ascended into Godhood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes_Trismegistus

He wrote the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, which were translated by Isaac Newton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Tablet

His texts laid the foundation of Hermeticism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeticism

And Thoth himself was the "God of Knowledge, the Moon, Measurement, Wisdom, the Alphabet, Records, Thought, Intelligence, Meditation, the Mind, Logic, Reason, Reading, Hieroglyphics, Magic, Secrets, Scribes, and Writing".

You can see why he's praised and worshiped by occultists.

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>>84131514
Here's your greentexted disdain at your use of a food analogy, which you intentionally did to receive a (you)
>Food analogy.

>>84131682
why is my Bryan Fuller detector going off

>>84131514

I havent seen anything gaiman has said about the show, can someone link a nigga?

>>84131658
>it'a an anon lays down an absolute load of horseshit like it's college exam day thread

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>>84131710
It didn't, that was my food analogy detector. They must have the same alert signal.

>>84126184
>cunt wife
She's a fuckin' asshole dead wuif. An asshole dead waif.

>>84131658
so Thoths like imhotep? a real person made into a god? i did not know that

>>84127882
Finally. Someone fucking said it. I'm wondering out of all of this, where the heck are they?

>>84131889
Simplest explanation is that if you believe they can not exist on earth they simply can't exist.

>>84127882
>implying Jesus is not Yahweh
>implying Allah would get an actual manifestation, or relevant at that, in America

This aint Sweden, fuccboi

>>84132071
Allah would be around in america because there are muslims in America. He wouldn't have much power though.

>>84132124
>>84132071
see >>84131653

I watched it yesterday and well... I have mixed feelings.

First of all what the fuck was the point of bringing back his wife as a super zombie if she had no importance on the plot ?

I thought Gods were supposed to be good at acquiring information, they should have known that Wednesday killed that other god.

Why the hell is Jesus on earth if his lore says he went back to heaven and only the holy spirit is on earth?

And last, they did not reveal why Wednesday needed Shadow Moon... That is just... Makes the whole thing look stupid as hell.

>>84131653
>>84132313

I think you guys severely underestimate just how many fucking gods there would be in america. There would probably be tens of thousands.

That said there are no Muslim groups anywhere that think Muhammad was anything except for a messenger from god. So it's possible that he wouldn't even actually be around period. Allah would definitely be around though.

>>84132453
>Allah would definitely be around though.
Allah is the all powerful only God of creation, above all gods, he does not come to earth EVER, only his spirit is sent to earth.

>>84132316
>First of all what the fuck was the point of bringing back his wife as a super zombie if she had no importance on the plot ?
deus ex machina to keep shadow alive.
>>84132316
>I thought Gods were supposed to be good at acquiring information, they should have known that Wednesday killed that other god.
Some gods are. Others aren't.>>84132316
>Why the hell is Jesus on earth if his lore says he went back to heaven and only the holy spirit is on earth?
Because these aren't that jesus. These are gods created from the belief in that jesus.

That said Easter even specifically says that people just dreamt up that jesus came back from the dead so as far as we know in the show Jesus was just a human.


>>84132506
>Allah is the all powerful only God of creation, above all gods, he does not come to earth EVER, only his spirit is sent to earth.
U trollin me bra? If Allah showed up in the show he wouldn't be THAT Allah. He'd just be A Allah.

>>84132453
Muhammad should be depicted as Jesus was depicted in Ep8. Yes there would be tens of thousands of gods, but its a single show and they can only depict so many things before. And, yes, Muslims believe and talk about the Prophet Muhammad like Christians talk about Jesus. A messenger from Allah is a big deal. And the showrunners lives would be put in danger for depicting Muhammad, look at Charlie Hebdo. The argument for Allah/Yahweh has already been made, but I will make it again. His form is endless and infinite, and this cannot manifest as a single entity.

>>84132613
>Muhammad should be depicted as Jesus was depicted in Ep8.

Are there any Muslims that believe or have believed that Muhammad was anything except for a human that god spoke to? No? Conversation over anon. Muhammad wouldn't pop up. Allah definitely would but Muhammad wouldn't.

>>84132680
>Allah definitely could***

>>84132573
>Because these aren't that jesus. These are gods created from the belief in that jesus.
>That said Easter even specifically says that people just dreamt up that jesus came back from the dead so as far as we know in the show Jesus was just a human.

I guess you are right.

>U trollin me bra? If Allah showed up in the show he wouldn't be THAT Allah. He'd just be A Allah.

Well they would have to try really hard tho, depictions of Allah are really confusing and generalizing, he is the God of the Harvest, the god creator of all, the all powerful, the god of peace, the Lord of all, king of kings, doctor of doctors, the good father, lord of the heavens, and the list goes on, to depict Allah in a movie is basically showing a man dressed all white in a throne with white light behind him and angels... basically the same as the God of Christians.

>>84132765
>Well they would have to try really hard tho, depictions of Allah are really confusing and generalizing, he is the God of the Harvest, the god creator of all, the all powerful, the god of peace, the Lord of all, king of kings, doctor of doctors, the good father, lord of the heavens, and the list goes on, to depict Allah in a movie is basically showing a man dressed all white in a throne with white light behind him and angels... basically the same as the God of Christians.
It's the same with the christian god where the closest thing you could do is make some old guy with a big white beard in a white robe. It's possibly why the christian god never showed up in the book either.

>>84132850
exactly my point, there is no point in showing Allah or Jehovah in this tv show because they are not lesser gods that interfere with humans.

>>84132941
Well it'd still be possible. Odin in america for example is VERY different than the Odin in norse mythology. Allah in america would probably be a mid tier at strongest god while the christian god would be a major power house. He'd literally be the strongest old god that Wednesday could try to get on his side (although he probably wouldn't care). And obviously even though the belief that sprung the two gods are strictly speaking the same diety they'd be different. It's kind of a shame that they won't deal with either of them because you could do a funny scene where Allah sort of identifies as also christian god and considers them to literally be the same while the christian god would view himself as completely different individual.

You could have some really fun scene with that sort of setup.

>>84133164
I agree that it is possible, just not worth tho, also
>fun scene
I don't think anything in this show is supposed the fun, maybe awe inspiring

>>84133246
>I don't think anything in this show is supposed the fun
There's definitely fun moments. Like Sweeney at the bar where he first meets shadow or when Laura gets Sweeney arrested while in the bath tub. It's sort of a black humor but it's there.

>>84132680
you are thinking too literally about this. Muhammad a messenger straight from god, he is a holy icon. He was human, but he fills a very similar role to Jesus in the belief system.

>>84133164
and then you get beheaded by jihadists

>>84133338
Then where are the disciples of jesus christ? Why is it that every JC didn't have their entire entourage with them at Easters place?

>>84133418
the disciples don't have to be there for them to exist. they are still mythological figures. we know for a fact that you don't have to be at the peak of belief to exist in the show, look at the leprechaun and Odin's ravens.

>>84133556
in this show ALL gods exist, and they have the exact power as their lore intended them to have, the only twist is that without a following they are more vulnerable to forget about themselves. Imagine you live thousands of years, eventually you will distract yourself with many mundane things and get bored, in the end you forget your own past, why you are there in the first place, in this show basically if a god dont have a following he will decay into a mundane and useless life.

>>84133740
i disagree with this analysis, and i will again say i think you are thinking about this problem too literally. gods exist because they rest on the belief of man. man conjures up gods to explain their actions and in turn try to appease the god they have invented, churning out more of the behaviour that brought the god into existence in the first place. did you miss the opening sequence about the vikings?

>>84133556
Odins Ravens and the Leprechaun are magical though and not in some vague "oh well it has to do with religion in an important way" but in a "people that believe in them believe that they have literal magic powers"


To be honest I don't think you've even read the book if you fail to understand this basic premise.

Let's for a moment pretend that it worked how you think it works if Muhammad was brought into existence via belief that there was a dude that talked to god then his ONLY special attribute would be that he could talk to Allah. That's literally it. Wednesday would have no use for him. Allah would in spite of not being a power house in america wouldn't have any reason to fight as he still has followers in america and Muhammad himself would be at best a messenger boy.

p.s. and if this REALLY is how it works then where the hell is Moses? He never shows up.

>>84133916
i dont see how what you say makes you disagree with what I said, both our thoughts are completely fine on the same idea.

>>84123153
why not zeus?

>>84134092
There was never any followers of Zeus that made it to america while holding their belief.

>>84134120
Zeus is basically Odin of the greek tho
>His mythologies and powers are similar, though not identical, to those of the Indo-European deities such as Indra, Jupiter, Perun, Thor, and Odin.[5][6][7]

this >>84134162
meant for >>84134092

>>84134120
>There was never any followers of Zeus that made it to america while holding their belief.
lmao millions of Greek live in america, how can you know this

>>84134213
>lmao millions of Greek live in america, how can you know this
And they believe in zeus?

>>84134226
>And they believe in zeus?
you are retarded

>>84134306
That's not an answer anon. Nobody arrived in America thinking "Oh praise be to Zeus that we made it". No belief. No worship. No god.

>>84134040
my point is that the icons and players of myth exist and continue to exist because of belief. and i already stated that just because they are not in the direct narrative, does not mean they cannot exist with the narrative's world. so no, moses does not need to show up.

>>84134055
your description implies the gods existed and then draw power from primates' belief. i say they ONLY exist because of belief. there's a slight but important distinction.

>>84134343
man, how can you bring up such intolerable point and expect to have a conversation on it ? If anyone came to america praising Zeus the same would be said for Odin that is a god from basically same continent with a very similar following and similar powers.

>>84134427
>man, how can you bring up such intolerable point and expect to have a conversation on it ? If anyone came to america praising Zeus the same would be said for Odin
Watch the first scene of episode 1 you fucking moron. It literally shows why Odin is in America.

>>84134427
it is the people that bring the old gods, if they didn't make any sacrifice to zeus, zeus won't exist

>>84134459
implying Zeus can't have his reasons to be in america too

>>84134409
Nobody "needs" to show up. I'm not the one claiming that the ONLY reasonable explanation for why Muhammad won't show up is real life politics.

He's not believed to be anything other than a human and he's VERY specifically NOT supposed to be worshiped according to Islam. He has no power besides being able to speak for a god that really wouldn't care about Wednesdays war. He's not in the book as a player at all. Look Islam is cancer, nobody is pretending it isn't but acting like "omg the ONLY reason he's not in the show is because mudslims will lose their shit" Is wrong. There's plenty of reasons why you shouldn't anticipate an appearance.

>>84134343
there was that woman in the series that was muslim but her mother told her stories about anubis and she believed in them and she went to the pagan egyptian afterlife.
Zeus could be possible

>>84134549
Yeah actually unless you can give me any sort of historical evidence of Greeks making it to America during a time period where they would have believed in Zeus then you're just a retarded showfag that doesn't understand the basic idea behind how the gods work.

>>84134558
I'll grant you possible. Any reason to think that's the case though?

>>84134641
im not that anoying anon you were talking to.
but greek mithology is very wide,some people could believe Zeus exist,he would be weak as fuck but old and wise,pretty much like Odin.

>>84134120
>>84134162
For some reason I thought Zeus were/is more popular

>>84134609
you miss the point, Odin isn't worshiped in america as much as Zeus... If for any reason there are worshipers of any of them (and I bet there are a few), the point is that this is a tvshow and they can find reasons for Zeus to show up if they wanted to.

>>84134556
I never claimed that the reason Muhammad is not in the story is due to real life politics, I claimed that real life politics are the reason he can't. If the climate was different and things like the Hebdo attacks didn't happen, there is still no guarantee that he would show up. And I guess we can just chalk up our disagreement to different conceptualizations of the mythologies and how they exist in the minds of people and American Gods deals with those conceptualizations.

>>84134120
Neither were there any that held on to beliefs in Odin unless you count the long dead Norwegians that tried living in America.

>>84134698
Odin was the god of about half europe for a good while, Zeus was the king of the gods for the greek for a little while (in comparison to other gods like Jesus).

>>84134689
>>84134698
Zeus could exist and would be pretty wise (although if he survived by the sort of fluke that lead to Anubis existing he wouldn't be anywhere nearly as old as Odin is).

That said the real reason why It's odin and not Zeus is Zeus isn't a god of war in greek mythology like Odin is which is super important to how the long con is supposed to work. As well as the fact that Odin is working with his brother loki the god of mischief and chaos on part of that two man con. So having him be Zeus instead of Odin wouldn't make his end game make any sense because it wouldn't feed him power by getting all of the new and old gods to butcher each other in his name.

>>84123153
DAGDA....DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGDAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

>>84134733
>Neither were there any that held on to beliefs in Odin unless you count the long dead Norwegians that tried living in America.
Yeah, That's exactly what were counting. It's part of why Odin is so "old" even amongst the old gods. It's also why he's so desperate. It's also why the series literally starts off showing those vikings over all other possible openers.

Awful show. Awful season finale. I actually cringed when McShane cried out "Odin!!"

if you finished the show and want to read something interesting (that is not the book) there is a comic about gods killing each other that is pretty good, just google God Is Dead comic

>>84126243

>my dick is ready

>>84126506
>house on the rock is next season
I couldn't believe they will stretch it so bad that house on the rock will be a season finale, when I heard it first. Turns out they stretched it much, much worse.

>>84134733
isn't that what basically happens?

>>84134806
is the book any good ?

Pretty disappointed there was no god of poop.

>>84134789
>>84134789
The native americans swiftly killed them off though.
Also, why would Odin travel with literal exiles?

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>>84126839
>Why the fuck it's so different from the book?

There's really nothing wrong with that, they just have to commit to one or the other. Half of first season was just setup so there was no way around, but it's clear show will go off to its own thing.

>Easter turns black in her true form
What?

>>84123683
>A 5 minute montage would have been more than enough
i thought that was going to be just another mini-story at the start of the episode like the old lady dying while cooking spaghetti
20 minutes later, i was bored to tears and skipped through the rest

>>84134853
Couldn't they find a more... young and fresh woman to represent the Goddess of harvest ? geez

test

>>84134824
The book is comfy. It's more of a roadtrip love letter to middle America (and actually written so you can visit the different places where the key events take place for the most part). It's an enjoyable read if you like Gaiman's work.>>84134848
>Also, why would Odin travel with literal exiles?
In the book gods don't move from place to place so much. They sort of just hang out on whatever continent/region they were born in. Bilquis literally taking a plane to america is actually just a show thing. In the book The old Bilquis in her country would have died and a new Bilquis would have been born in the U.S. after the woman that believed in her travelled there.

he had such a shrill weak voice when he shouted his name wtf

>>84134874
it was pretty good tho, basically they established the idea behind belief that they will be utilized and explored through the next season (was also established during the scene with technical boy and the queen)

>>84127300
the reveal scene was embarrassing

>>84134957
It's actually kind of a shame because the face off between Media and technical boy against Ostara and Odin is fantastic until the reveal. It sort of leaves a black mark on what had been like a fantastic fucking scene. Go back and rewatch it from when Media asks if Wednesday is there.

>>84134889
He's 75 years old

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>>84134829

>>84134889
just rewatched it and find it pretty good

>>84132071
Jesus is not Yahweh. That's a core belief of Christianity - The holy trinity.
Mohammed won't show up because a core belief that Mohammed was simply a prophet of Allah and not a deity himself. He as well as Allah also must not be depicted as dictated by muslim faith, so Allah is kinda there but can not manifest himself.

>>84123153
ok so i like the show, its an ok show, the source material is solid..but...but...wait for it...is there such a thing as to much sex? I mean every episode there is some softcore shit that is plot relevant yet feels like its exploited to the top degree.

is it a starz thing "yes we feel this show would be great on our network but the content needs some tweeking before its brand friendly" ie needs tits and dicks in every scene.
Would be fine if it was in balance with cracking dialogue and explosive violence but it lags like a mf, Im just getting into an ep and bam another straight or gay or fucks knowswhat sex scene, it becomes so monotonous.

dont get me twisted i love me some boobies, but its really taking away from what could (hammy dialogue, dead wife and corny spfx aside) be a great show.

Will Shadow Moon be devoured by Bilquis vagina?

>>84135229
no

>>84135210
>is it a starz thing
Yeah to some extent it seems to be an issue with Starz but really much of the sex in the show is just Bilquis getting a larger role in the show than she had in the book.
>>84135229
>will the main protag get consumed by a vagina goddess?
Nah bra.

>>84127462
Then why do soldiers have the priest bless them before they go into combat in Aghanistan?

What god is Shadow Moon?

A Native American one?

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>>84134727
>this is a tvshow and they can find reasons for Zeus to show up if they wanted to

Showfags everyone

>>84134880
The old gods are old for a reason

>>84127535
Why the crusades then?

>>84135297
Baldur kek

>>84135281
>Then why do soldiers have the priest bless them before they go into combat in Aghanistan?

Pro tip: There's a jesus in Afghanistan and that mother fucker is probably a blood thirsty cunt. That said he's probably fairly weak though.
>>84135297
Shadow is odin's son Balder

Still waiting for the atheist god to show up.

>>84127462
Remember USA jesus is top tier power level. His problem if anything is that he's so powerful that he has no stakes in this fight and as other have said he's a hippie in the U.S. and not going to take part in the war.
>>84135415
Have fun waiting. Hopefully it's all about the journey and not the destination for you on that one.

>>84135297
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>>84135333
>Mfw people sayShadow must be Baldur because he's Odin's son despite Odin having like 1000 kids
The only reason Loki says that shit about the mistletoe in the books is because Gaiman wanted to make a reference

Shadow is the American Everyman. He's mixed race, troubled, not sure what he believes and there have been thousands before him. In the book when he's climbing the mountain of skulls and he asks the buffalo who they were he's told that they were all him. The reason everyone wants him is because his belief and sacrifice would be worth WAY more than any normal human.

>>84135210
Fuller wanted to have Shadow actually let Audrey suck him off on Laura's grave and only didn't because Gaiman said he would kill himself if he did that. Premium cable is a joke

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>no god of memes

into the trash

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>>84134889
>>84135074
>>84135145
just played around with it in audacity and made it a deep booming voice but the pitch shift is really obvious. any studioanons that are better than me willing to make his voice deeper and upload it?

>>84135468
Nigga we're not going to go super into detail about how we don't know exactly who he is for sure for a showfag. Baldur works. He's Odin's son that's all people really should know if they want to know who he is.

>>84129766
Vulcan basically represented the gun nuts of America
They "sacrifice" people to pits, analogous to people dying of gun violence.
Him making the sword is the same as a gunsmith getting shot by a robber. He makes the weapon that will kill him because he's blinded by his idealogy that he doesn't think what will happen once the weapon changes hands

>>84135468
so he his not a normal human because he his American Everman?

>>84135494
see >>84131011

>>84130313
It's not the story he wanted to tell. American Gods is basically an offshoot of Season of Mists where he turned a bunch of minor deities into comic book characters. The problem with Allah, YHWH and God is that they are not personified at all, you can't turn them into comic book characters easily without looking stupid.

He did pussy out on mohammed though.

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>>84135302
Actually, the book implies thats the case. Greeks, Egyptians, Phoenicians, Celts, Scandinavians, Japanese, Indians, Chinese, Arabas, etc, all came to America a long time ago, before Columbus or Lief Erickson. When they arrived there they prayed for some gods and thats how they got there.

Thoth and the Egyptians gods got there 3800 years ago, when some Egyptians traders got there, the same with some Welsh god I don't remember and basically everybody, even Odin, Thor and Loki got there 300 years before the arrival of Lief. The book implies that everybody got to America at some point, but with their technology it was a very long and harsh trip and once in America there wasn't much to do or trade.

Is the book any good?
I saw all the threads on /tv/ for weeks, but just ignored them, thinking it was some more meme shit like The Expanse.
But then I kept seeing AG ads on Twitch, so I decided to give it a shot.
It feels like a very well made SyFy channel show. It had the budget, actors, and production to make the visuals surreal but still familiar.
9/10 best show of 2017 so far imo

>>84135560
mohammed would be the god of child molestation

>>84135539
not the same anon, but in my opinion they are trying to explore some angle with Shadow moon, basically see how he is indifferent to everything happening around him, so I guess is he the kind of human that would easily accept the reality of gods and faith... something among this lines, Shadow Moon is the perfect believer.

>>84135581
The book is pretty good, way better than the tv series.

>>84135539
He is a normal person. It's just that when Americans as a collective imagine "An American" Shadow is the average amalgamation of who they picture. He's like the ambassador for humans

Or this>>84135592
It all comes down to which fan theory you like better

>>84135581
>9/10 best show of 2017 so far imo
that is not much tho, 2017 is pretty shit for tv shows

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>tfw Netflix normies will never turn this show into Breaking Bad tier meme garbage because no one uses Amazon Prime

>>84132453
>That said there are no Muslim groups anywhere that think Muhammad was anything except for a messenger from god. So it's possible that he wouldn't even actually be around period

Johnny Appleseed is in the book and nobody ever believed him to be a god.

>>84135599
Yeah, as cliche as it is to say the book is better than the show. That said the book has probably aged a bit and when reading it you need to keep that in mind when you have characters like technology boy.

>>84135648
>2017 is pretty shit for tv shows
The Leftovers let me down a little, but I still enjoyed it.
I'm only watching Homeland because I've watched too much to drop it now.
Bililions got dropped after genderless tumblr character.
BCS was pretty good this year. Needs more Nacho tho.
I honestly don't even know what else I've been watching. TV has gone to complete shit these past few years

>>84135580
You're missing the point. Why are you arguing that they should shoehorn in all kinds of characters that are not in the story to begin with?

>>84135660
it will eventually go to netflix

>>84135693
Fair point. I forgot about johnny appleseed.

That said Muhammad still doesn't have any reason to enter this fight. Nor does Wednesday have any use for a pedophile whose only abilities include fucking children and speaking with a basically invisible force in the world that gives no fucks about Wednesdays war.

>>84135709
I need to catch up with homeland, was it any good ? I only watched 4 episodes of the new season but I was really addicted to it, very smart show.

Didn't like Leftovers and never tried Billions, what is BCS ? (new to this board)

>>84135580
Actually Gaiman onlyincluded gods he could findevidence for being worshipped in America, even if it was super dodgy evidence like the case of the Egyptians. He never found any reason for Greeks to be there

>>84135771
I'm assuming better call saul.

>>84135771
Billions isn't bad if you don't mind the fact that they put in an autistic agender asexual girl with a shaved head, honestly her being so fucking weird makes sense for the character.

Better Call Saul is slow as fuck but pure kino

>>84135468
>Everyman
Holy shit that makes sense.
He went to prison cos Murica hasthat superhigh prison population

>>84135824
I watched 2 seasons of Saul, well for what the show is... a show where words are the point of the show, it is pretty good, some pretty interesting shit happen too, but I'm not up to watch this new season I find it too depressing

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>>84135880

>>84135920
:)

>>84135709
the expanse was pretty good for what it is, also I like the space battles and shit

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>>84134888
>love letter

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>>84130029
>the still massively popular religions's gods are nowhere to be seen
>Jesuses everywhere

What strikes me as retarded is that there are no superheroes or superhero versions of the gods.
Surely they are the most prevalent mythological beings people have faith in next to christianity in modern america.
People will fight tooth and nail to defend them.
For that matter, why aren't there a bunch of corporate god mascots? There's no shortage of company loyalty and company wars being waged by people for no real reason.

Also, the faceless legion was supposed to be anonymous, right? I'm not the only one who thinks that?
The original version, not the shitty guy fawkes one. He did after all spawn out of both tech boy and Mr. World.

>>84130420
You're wrong, kiddo.

>>84131377
>this bullshit meme
Thot has never been and never will be a correct spelling.
Toth and thoth, sure. But not thot.
It's simply incorrect, you dense cunt.

>>84124521
>shallow encounters
>every single one is there to convey a social commentary of some kind
>when you are such a brainlet that the whole premise of the show flies over your head

>>84124235
>exposition isn't spoonfed
I dunno man. I'm getting real tired of being spoonfed about Bilquis.
Introducing her now after she's already been on the show multiple times is just boring. The entire segment they spent on her this episode contributed only one new piece of information and it was "lol men are assholes so she works for nerdboy now"

>>84136975
>lol men are assholes so she works for nerdboy now
retard alert

>>84137000
Enlighten me.

>>84137045
Waste of time if that's the only thing you got out of it.

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>>84137069
#Sad!

>>84137097
Good to know that I've made the right call.

>>84137109
Alright, gurrlfriend. You definitely didn't just make yourself look like an idiot by not backing up your non sequiteur. :^)

>>84137151
>sequiteur
Thanks for another confirmation tard.

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>>84137184
>nit picking grammar
>so far nothing but insults
Absolutely exalted.

>>84137204
It's orthography, not grammar. Not surprised that even a burger tv show is too complicated for someone this stupid.

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>yfw boypussy is back on the menu

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>>84137262
Precisely how long do we have before that forehead vein of yours ruptures?

>>84137312
>haha you mad
epic, filtered

>>84137351
ebin