Is there a Vietnam war movie that isn't about boomers crying

>>84108628
Forrest Gump obviously

>>84108628
Holywood is run by the same tribe of people who were extensively funded by the USSR to undermine the war against communism, so no

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>>84108628
One of the Missing in Action kinos

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>>84108628
we were soldiers comes closest to it

no hippie bullshit
no DUDE WEED LMAO
no IT AINT ME
no crying because of draft
just guys inna jungle fightan, and some women at home crying

>>84108628
I don't think FMJ is about that. I didn't take that away from Platoon either. Maybe Apocalypse Now I think FFC is just kind of a weirdo artist.

>>84108685
>this is the type of retard you argue with on /tv/
What would da joos gain by helping Commies win? Da joos would be considered part of the bourgeoisie and would be killed if gommunism came to america. Neck yourself

We Were Soldiers and unironically Forrest Gump

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>>84108685

really made me think

>>84108849
Gee why would industrialists want perpetual war?

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>>84108875
Too bad the rest of Forrest Gump was a boomer circle jerk.

Every generation before boomers expected and went to war and were proud to fight

Boomers were the beginning of the end for America

>>84108900
Going by whats been said in this thread my guess would have to be that it must be good with latkes

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>**triggers your dad**

>>84108849
>Joos

Why don't you go back to pol?

>>84108926
I dunno, I liked how neutral it portrayed Forrest towards all the hippy returning soldiers and anti-war folks, in fact all he really says about the war was that sometimes it was frightening but most of the time it was just walking, and that when the rain stopped it was beautiful or something like that. Hell even Lt. Dan is only salty as all fuck because he thinks he should have died in the war, not because of any sense of lost humanity or other generic boomer complaints about the war.

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>>84108951
>not wanting to go die in some shit ass country for literally no reason
>end of america

>>84108964
Triggers me. Should've been tried for treason tbqh, everything she's done since then has proven that she should've ended up in a noose next to McNamara.

We were soldiers

I always like that movie simply because it doesn't make everyone in the army look like a bunch of whiney cunts

>>84108628
I don't get any sort of boomer whininess from FMJ
its about the duality of man

>>84108995
>Should've been tried for treason tbqh,
She was right though, can't be changed for treason if it's the traitors fighting the war
Really makes ya think!

>>84108984
>not realizing that boomers intentionally outsourced jobs to immigrants, drove up the deficit and caused the 2007 recession just so they could live like kings for 30-40 years, fucking over every generation after them

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>>84108849
>da joos
How about you look at a list of communist spies, or the members of the soviet governments. Jews absolutely fucking dominate all communist movements.
>what would they gain
What does a tribe of nepotistic outsiders gain by demolishing the existing social order and replacing it with a corrupt bureaucracy that they run inside and out? I really can't imagine.
>would be killed
Oh, shut your mouth. The jews were the judge, jury and executioner when communists took over the shithole I live in. Which is why we shot anyone who didn't flee fast enough and sold the survivors to the SS for camping fun the second the Germans arrived.
>>84108893
Maybe you should try that, some time. Because this really should make you think. McCarthy was fucking right, the US was infested with commie kike fucks and still is. They just realized communism won't work and developed this neocon/neoliberal technocracy bullshit instead.

>>84109046
>having this poor of an understanding of economics

>>84108782
We were soldiers is some hippie bullshit compared to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IiBvIphz2I

>David Carradine wrapped in the US flag killing vietnam fucking shits with kung fu

Now that's what I call America

>>84109071
tl;dr boomers caused the end of america

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>>84108951
>Boomers were the beginning of the end for America

>>84108995
t. 65 year old divorced man

>>84108839
Full Metal Jacket and Platoon are the best Nam movies.

>>84109078
Then why did Stalin kill Trotsky and why were Russian communists notoriously anti-semitic?

>>84109119
Nah, just student of history.

>>84108983
It's good as far as the portrayal of Vietnam goes, but the rest of the movie is literally "Woooow we really changed the world man, the 60s were such a decade of change" level nostalgia bait for your parents.

I'll agree the Vietnam sequences worked well though.

ITT: Pro-War /pol/tards who would dodge the draft for World War III.

>>84109197
WWIII won't be fought by soldiers it will be fought by drones. Also
>muh /pol/ boogeyman

>>84109168
Then you would know that nothing she did constitutes treason.

Not saying it was the right thing to do. Just that it wasn't treason.

>>84109151
Soviets only started getting rid of jews after like 40 years of bolshevism

the first 40 years were basically jews calling the shots

>>84109197
every male and his dog would dodge the draft for world war 3
>inb4 go back to /pol/

>>84108951
Thanks for ruining europe cucks for jews.

>>84108628

They were all volunteers in FMJ.

>>84109222
Literally giving aide and comfort to the enemy which is considered Treason. If the Rosenbergs got the noose for simply passing documents, she should get the same.

Apply the law equally to everyone or don't have a law at all.

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>>84109151
Russian communists were not notoriously anti-semitic. Up to the very end their government was absolutelt swarming with kikes. Stalin killed Trotsky because Trotsky was competition. But his own retinue was full of jews. The jewish executioners I'm talking about happened in 1940, 1945 and then 1949. Very much under Stalin.

Saying that communism is very much a jew-run thing does not mean all those jews are working together in a giant, organized conspiracy. The nature of kike communities within host societies, as well as their culture and heavy in-group preference is what makes it statistically far likelier for kikes to push it.

>>84109223
In what eastern european shithole do you live where it took you that long to outs the merchants?

>>84109181
>"Woooow we really changed the world man, the 60s were such a decade of change" level nostalgia bait for your parents.

The History Channels Vietnam in HD is guilty as fuck of this. Not a single mention of the air war in Vietnam or anything involving Cambodia, China, Laos or even a mention of the Gulf of Tonkin, but then spends an entire epsiode on how Woodstock CHANGED DA WORLD MAN

>>84109197
Yeah I would dodge it because I'm not going to die for some rich faggots that want more power but call me asap when there's a civil war to do.

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>>84109223
>Soviets only started getting rid of jews after like 40 years of bolshevism

So, after the death of Stalin?

>

>>84109223
>implying they ever got rid of them

>>84109223
Stalin wasn't getting rid of jews, he was getting rid of competition to his own, personal rule. Which happened to be a gigantoc clique of jews at the time. But the lower levels of the nomenklatura stayed jewish as ever. Stalin's purges killed far, far more gentiles than kikes, often under the supervision of other kikes.

>>84109249
Sitting on an AA gun is not giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

If she passed along troop positions or operated a North Korean hospital or something, then you'd have a point.

She just went on a tour and made some political appearances.

Disrespectful? Morally dubious? Worthy of derision? Yes, yes, yes.

Treason? No.

But it's been debated to death and I honestly don't care either way.

>>84108628
don't cut yourself on that edge bro

>>84109437
t. 60 year old man that didn't serve

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>FMJ goes up on Netflix
>suddenly a bunch of threads about it on /tv/

>>84108628
FMJ certainly isn't about that, and I think Kubrick made it quite clear.
As already said, We were Soldiers and Forrest Gump. Apocalypse Now doesn't have it either but that's because the Vietnam War is just a pretext for a Hearth of Darkness adaptation. Even the Deer Hunter wasn't really whiny, just sad (which is why on release the hollyjews said it was fascist propaganda).

>>84109437
Movies routinely portray conflicts harsher than the vietnam war with less whining or le anti-war wow so deep "message".

>>84108995
>ended up in a noose next to McNamara.
Why the McNamara hate?

>>84109489
>FMJ goes up on Netflix
Why would anyone lie on the internet?

>>84109416
During the course of her visit, Fonda visited American prisoners of war (POWs), and brought back messages from them to their families. When stories of torture of returning POWs were later being publicized by the Nixon administration, Fonda called the returning POWs "hypocrites and liars and pawns", adding about the prisoners she visited, "These were not men who had been tortured. These were not men who had been starved. These were not men who had been brainwashed."[50]

>>84109131
Kill those trees, let em have it!

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>>84108628
I never understood that either, most people who were against going to Vietnam were actually disappointed low class recruits who were promised specialist training and education but were instead thrown into Vietnam with barely any training.

>>84109084
So basically what this thread is looking for is propaganda films and stylized action movies?

>>84109524
What a fucking cunt, no wonder Stan hated her

>>84108984
Please fucking tell me that's not cosmo

>>84109489
I literally googled "Vietnam war movie" and picked something to help illustrate my point.

>>84108951
Because modern warfare in WWI and WW2 removed all the glory and just kept the horrors.

>>84109141
>FMJ
>better than Apocalypse Now

Nah, I think that's one of Kubrick's weaker but still good films. Platoon is fantastic tho.

We Were Soldiers

>>84109046
This post is preposterous but his insinuation that Boomers are cancer isn't wrong

>>84109565
No but that's another speedrunner I think.

>>84109552
Well, if you want to be exhaustive, I guess so. The war movie can be
>whiny
>militaristic in various forms
>a purely stylized action movie
One of these is worse than the others, and it's neither of those you talked about.

>>84108685
#woke

>>84109524
That's not treason, that's lying.

>>84108628
Apocalypse Now? It was more about the war turning people crazy.

>>84109197
>WWIII will be fought with soldiers

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>>84109197
Yes, good goy. Go die for Israel so Tyrone can fuck your wife.

>>84109516
Planned out Vietnam, his "whiz kids" knew nothing of what they were doing and ended up canceling good programs because "Hey we can make the F-111 do EVERYTHING", "Hey this M-16 rifle we just got doesn't really NEED any of the features that the designer put in, nor does it NEED to have bullets with this powder!", Recalled planes sent out to assist the USS Liberty in Search and Rescue missions, purposeful obfuscation of Gulf of Tonkin, passed on information to the Soviets regarding detection and strike capabilities of the US ICBM fleet and of course:

"Hey, y'know what would REALLY show the North Vietnamese how powerful we are? If we told them the exact locations we were going to strike days before we did, and then did it anyway! What do you mean they added defenses to those areas? We'll show them, we'll just do it anyway, damn the pilots!"

>>84109669
>visits and defends north vietnam
>criticises american POWs for being "liars"
>this isn't treason
hmmmmm

>>84109078
What autism is this?

Never understood why people kept calling Vietnam vets crazy.
Then I started watching all the Vietnam films... No fuckin wonder why, Jesus.

>>84108951
Dude, please. The Japs had to crash their planes in our backyard for us to stop being all 'not muh fight bro lel'.

Listen to a few radio shows or watch a few movies from the WW1 and WW2 era. It was a circlejerk of muh poor son got drafted stap the war!

>>84109540
Observe the tumblr twat. It posts gifs of implied social disapproval by supposed authority figures, and attempts to prevent any discussion of the topic by consensus.

Too bad there is no consensus and peer pressure on an imageboard, so you better start making arguments, sunshine.

>>84108628
C'mon people - John Wayne in the Green Berets (1968)

>>84109660
>equating the JQ to nigger meme ilerminati conspiracies
It's as easy as browsing througu fucking wikipedia. Go through a few lists of communists, communist spies, anti-war activists, etc. Bursting at the seams with kikes.

>>84109827
I thought the discussion was about movies depicting the Vietnam War draft, that is until some autismo (on cue) immediately posted some non-sequitur about da joos.

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talkin about vietnam vets
was this kino, /tv/?

DO YOU SUCK DICKS?

>>84109773
The ability to notice obvious things.

i've never met anyone who remembers anything about FMJ after bootcamp, aside from everyone singing Mickey mouse at the end

>>84109893
>non-sequitur
It isn't non-sequitur. Most films of that era have a very clear agenda.

>>84109720
I'm not the one shilling for useless wars for other countries, goy.

>>84109907
Yes.

>>84109801
Well it's a bunch of kids fighting and dying a war for a country they can't even point out on the map against their will.

I mean at least if you fought in a World War that sounds pretty badass but Nam?

>>84108726
>>84108753
>>84109540
>triggered commie twat samefagging this hard

he is right and you're a faggot

>>84108628
Literally none of the major Vietnam war films were about this. Platoon was about Oliver Stone's own volunteer deployment. He wasn't drafted.

>>84108849
look up richest russians
half of them jews
from peasants to oligarchs
the "russian" revolution

>>84109030
>The Jungian thing, sir!

>>84109951
Except all those movies that don't.

>>84109907
It's the "The Sixth Sense" of movies

>>84109941
"ME SO HORNY ME LOVE YOU LONG TIME"

>>84108849
both USSR and USA were jewish pawns to destroy european power and they won

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>>84109616
Whatever happened to respecting your elders?

>>84109922
You must be extremely self-aware of it then.

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With all the talk about politics does anyone feel the same way I do?
I feel fucking powerless and insignificant like a worm because I see politicians all around the glove either being incompetent, in on the conspiracy or just clueless about the shadow government manipulating them and I can't do anything as a 19 year-old collegecuck studying economics.

>>84109773
not being afraid of research

>>84110009
No. There's a lot going for JL even if you know the twist. It's not just a one (or twice after you know the twist) watch like 6th Sense.

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>>84108628
I'd make a case for Aldrich's "Choirboys" as the ultimate Vietnam film.

"Choirboys" begins with maybe one minute in Vietnam, a firefight, before settling into its gross-out story of LA Cops chained nude to trees and ducks who appear to give blowjobs. It includes an offensive gay stereotype that's so ridiculous that it's hard to take seriously, and is balanced by a gay youth treated with relative sympathy. But what I love about it, if "love" can be applied to this ultra-crude film, is the way the total meaninglessness of its action and the total disorientation of its space seem to flow from that opening: the flame obliterates the coordinates of space, so to speak, to the point where all that's left is crudity and masochism. This all makes it a film about the shadows of meaningless war, the effects of a wrong war.

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I think I'm almost alone in thinking it to be a great film, and the best of the late ones. It is admittedly offensive in a variety of ways, and includes a gay character who is so ridiculous that I could almost argue he's a parody of stereotypes rather than an actual stereotype. It's got no sense of space, and the case for it is a tough one to make, but I'd argue that the lack of space is so consistent in "Choirboys" (as opposed to, for example, the truly awful "Frisco Kid" which is simply a mess) as to become an expressive organizing principle.

Also, people forget the opening minute, which puts the whole thing in the context of the Vietnam war and provides a great de-contextualizing context, explaining how war destroys space.. Indeed, the film's nihilism seems to me a profounder comment on the Vietnam war than the movies I've seen that comment on it directly by actually trying to show it.

You can download it here if interested: https://mega.nz/#!BZUxFLRT!Ivd7OuZta16FUSujLb27dwo1uCbykCrXsMP5u-npMWU

>>84110032
Respect is earned not given

>>84109907
It's OK.

>>84110032
Respect is gained and not a given, especially when it was them who ruined everything for everyone.

>>84110032
>Boomers
>worth respecting

Pick neither.

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I guess no pleb here has ever heard of "La 317 section"?
In Vietnam, 1954, a French platoon isolated behind enemy lines tries to come back. It is led by the inexperienced, idealistic sous-lieutenant Torrens, and by adjutant Willsdorf, a WWII veteran of the Werhmacht.

>>84110139
How come there aren't any goof French Vietnam movies? I think their fight was far more interesting than what the US and friends did

>>84110162
The Quiet American
Who wants to watch smelly Europeans in a hot sweaty jungle doe?

>>84110162
Because both the French and US ultimately lost but the US lost on a way grander scale and it's where Hollywood is based.

Vietnam was the last truly noble war.

>>84110239
>noble
I guess that's the definition of soldiers killing their commands and war crimes running more rampant than ever before. Vietnam was a shitshow.

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>>84109552
What's funny is that "POW the Escape" is a Cannon production, produced and directed by merchants, same as Braddock and Delta Force and a lot of others 80s overpatriotic low budget action movies... make you think

>>84110162
Because no one cares.
Unlike the US where there were mass movement against the war, the Indochina war in France was considered literally uninteresting. It was fought mostly by voluntaries with little funding. There were a lot of badass action and it was there that many of the counter insurgency measures still in use where first developed. But from a societal point of view it was nothing like the US war. When the high command unavoidably finally made a gross mistake, the French just stopped with a meh.
There is still a decent Dien Bien Phu movie.

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>>84109511
>Hearth

>>84110309
>it was there that many of the counter insurgency measures still in use where first developed.

You can make a better case of the RoK in Vietnam being the source of it really.

>>84110139
Do you think everyone here is a pleb/a /pol/ sperg? La 317e section is classic war kino

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>>84109673
Shh this thread isn't about good movies, it's about being an AMERICAN who's not a GOD DAMN PUSSY for a change

Kurtz did have a point though, if he had had one regimen of the "judgement free" men he describes in his monologue the American campaign would have been much more "successful". He couldn't have just Patton'd it up and charged to victory though, considering there was no fucking objective. You can't kill an ideology through war.

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>>84109080
>>84109616
>>84110032
>boomer internet defense league

>muh elder respect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otD52qwC9xw

>>84108628
/tv/ is the dumbest board I have come across yet. not even /pol/ or /r9k/ can touch it.

>>84108951
imagine if this fat faggot got sent to vietnam, imagine how he would fare

>>84108951
How many wars have you fought in you retarded faggot?

>>84108628
>Vietnam war movie that isn't about boomers crying about how they were drafted

you mean unrealistic ?

Why was the draft only bad in nam and not in ww1 ww2 or korea?
Was it because in those wars they were mostly whites and they were brave and in nam it was just black people?

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>>84110048
>19
>Studies economics

Please tell us about The Powers That Be

>>84110655
It was bad in nam because young men were signing up to fight for a country that didn't have their best interests in mind

>>84110707
So what was the difference with the other wars again?

>>84110048
Yeah sure. A 19 year old literal kid who is studying his meme degree is less clueless then Politicians. I'm sure you got it all figured out. Those dumb politicians just don't have access to those top secret youtube videos you watched about the shadow goubermint. TLDR: You are retarded

>>84110655
Nam was jungle warfare. Also the average age of an American GI was 22 which was considered really young compared to the other wars.

>>84110764
Jews weren't in the government prior to WWII. Every war after that one was to serve the interest of the merchants

>>84110813
No the average age was 19, there was a whole fucking pop song about it

>>84110855
That's a myth.

>>84109744
>Hey this M-16 rifle we just got doesn't really NEED any of the features that the designer put in
What features were missing?

>>84110813
>>84110855
The average age of an infantryman (MOS 11B) serving in Vietnam to be 19 years old is a myth, it is actually 22. None of the enlisted grades have an average age of less than 20. The average man who fought in World War II was 26 years of age.

>>84110655
>and in nam it was just black people?

How did you even come up with this retarded conclusion?

So it was worse cause people died in the jungle and not in a french beach 3 years younger?

>>84110898
Chrome barrel lining that even the US Army and Marines said it needed, this combined with the high humidity of Vietnam and shitty powder that they said "was totally fine even though the design calls for THIS" meant that stoppages and jams were exceptionally common throughout Vietnam. One service member famously wrote to his congressman that during a firefight virtually every rifle had jammed at least once, costing people their lives.

>>84110655
It was a proxy war like Korea but being jungle warfare changed everything. The usual strategies were thrown out the window.
Also everyone was fighting for a country they didn't care for and it gradually turned everything chaotic. Were talking about soldiers who would kill their commanders. Shit crazy.

>>84110933
In movies half vietnam troops are blacks while in ww2 there were barely black unites

>>84110693
>>84110770
Please no bully.
>I'm sure you got it all figured out
No I don't. I clearly said in my earlier post that I feel insignificant and powerless.

>>84110933
Pretty sure 50% of the enlisted were black.

>>84110885
>>84110901
It is a disputed statistic which has yet to be proved wrong

>>84110524
/pol/ is just a sociopath that doesn't understand human interaction and nothing is as stupid as /r9k/

>USA
>Half the white population is german
>Let's go kill germans
>YEY
>Let's go kill more germans
>YEY
>Let's go kill chinese commies
>Oh no, muh draft, muh lost youth
LMAO

>>84110978
>Hollywood war movies are an accurate representation of history

Americans everybody. Won't be long till people swear there were female GIs

>>84110933


every homeless person i see is black and says there a nam veteran

>>84110966
>Also everyone was fighting for a country they didn't care for
No, it was because the jewish media didn't want americans to kill commies

>>84109197
they would've dodged every draft in the past as well. Just look at Trump.

>>84110933
a lot of black people were drafted to 'nam

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>>84110998
>Believing a pop song over every historian on the planet
You're so stupid it hurts. Kys.

>>84111033
Of all enlisted men who died in V'nam, blacks made up 14.1% of the total. This came at a time when they made up 11.0% of the young male population nationwide. If we add officer casualties to enlisted then the black percentage is reduced to 12.5% of all casualties.

And Vietnam is still a communist country.
How do you fuck up so bad.

>>84111091
they have more economic freedom that most european countries
comunism was only used by viets to gain independence

>>84111081
I not even bothered if what he was claiming was true or not. It was more the fact he treated war movies as factual that flustered me

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>>84109511
>Even the Deer Hunter wasn't really whiny, just sad
No it wasn't sad, it was just a fascinating journey into human nature and surprised this flick is only mentioned once ITT.

>>84110950
No, it's because there was literally no objective and any city they "captured" was pointless. It's not like in WWII when the Brits and Muricans had to help the French take their shit back

>>84108849
Jews invented communism you fucking moron.

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>>84110998
>disputed
>when the US Army keeps detailed records on these things

>>84111161
Even during the peak of the war the US wasn't getting anything done.

>>84111161
>vietnam
>not helping french take their shit back
kek

>>84111161
that was because both parties used the war for going against each other
sabotaging the war plans and the treaties every 2 years

>>84111130
Not exactly

>>84111151
>deerhunter.jpg
very subtle anon very subtle

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>>84111207
That was a lost cause at that point tho, it was just proxy war bullshit because they were small enough "communists" to bully

>>84111234
Tru

Speaking of good war movies, Patton is just a fucking perfect character piece, up there with with his fellow sociopathic cinematic masterpiece, Lawrence of Arabia

>>84110933
Because president Truman desegregated the armies after WW2.
Smart move honestly.

>>84111573
mfw patton is so alpha that after he was assassinated for suggesting invading soviet russia he reincarnated as trump to keep winning.

>>84111938
It's true.

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>>84111938
That's funny considering throughout the movie he suggests he was the reincarnation of Hannibal, one of Napoleon's generals, etc...

Trump is not nearly the man Patton was though, he's a Machiavellian greaseball that barred personal nepotism and shady deals to the top. I wonder what Patton would say in response to him saying he could lead the military better than the generals considering he has experienced nothing close to combat. I suppose he serves a purpose of proving the proletariat voice can still be heard, though.

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>>84108685

>>84111938
>comparing Patton to Trump

Please stop.

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ITT: millenial /pol/fags pretend they're tougher than people that actually fought in a war

84C MoPic

>>84109757
Can you tell us how this constitutes treason? It is an extremely heavy charge, requiring exceptional proof.

>>84112249
>The City of Jacksonville

>>84109847
This. Its the only pro Vietnam movie made, at least a mainstream one.

And its not good.

>>84112249
Defending the draft of all things too. These fuckers would shit their pants if they were drafted.

>>84112464>>84112249
No one here defended the draft
Just noticed that mainstream media was only against the draft in nam

>>84108628
Full Metal Jacket

>>84112830
The effect the media had on the country during 'Nam wasn't because of the draft, or people marching in the streets, or protesting, or whatever.

It was the first on-location news event that involved a war with gruesome footage being piped in daily. It brought the war to everyone's living rooms, which was quite a culture shock at the time. Also, the media in those days was not the same as it is now. Most outlets were replete with decent journalism, and people trusted their news anchors like Walter Cronkite

Trying to project the current media paradigm on the media of the mid to late 60s is a square peg into a round hole..

>>84110961
>Chrome barrel lining that even the US Army and Marines said it needed
Do you have a source for this? I found that the SecDef's office interfered with procuring chrome-lined barrels, but I don't see where the Army/Marines initially recommended against procuring the rifles without chrome barrels.

It also looks like the use of ball powder had nothing to do with McNamara, but was a consequence of decision-making at the Army's Ordinance Dept.

Aside from these particulars, I found this to be a rather interesting read: https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/papers/2008/P6306.pdf

>tfw no modern Vietnam war movie with saving private Ryan/fury level effects

>>84108628
FUll Metal Jacket wasn't about that. Other than the sniper, they didn't have a hard life at all. In fact, it seemed rather comfortable with all the whores you can ask for.

Platoon

>>84112968
>first on-location news event that involved a war with gruesome footage being piped in daily. It brought the war to everyone's living rooms
>Most outlets were replete with decent journalism
You mean promoting defeatism so that commie china wouldn't collapse?
Such great journalism

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>>84109084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dum2bXM63eY

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>>84112968
Also, the media in those days was not the same as it is now. Most outlets were replete with decent journalism

Bull fucking shit. It's the same way it has always been- TV is pulp that craftily chooses their sources from print where the real journalism work is being done to get their spin for the network. The only difference now is that it has been identified there is a market for CONSTANT news coverage and because of it everyone who speaks sounds like a parroting ass clown instead of muh mustachiod fatherly figure giving me "The Business"

>>84113387
>promoting defeatism
More like, reacting emotionally to images of their children being slaughtered for a war that didn't seem to make a lot of sense. World War 1 and 2 meant something. It was hard to reconcile the proxy war dynamics of Vietnam in the same way. Hell, Korea would've been the same way had images of it been piped in repeatedly.

>>84108685
>all the [[[shills]]] posting reaction faces to discredit you

Really trips my sensors

>>84109744
>passed on information to the Soviets regarding detection and strike capabilities of the US ICBM fleet
Interesting....

Source?

>>84108628
It happened a lot because Vietnam was a fucking stupid war.

It's also why you'll never see either Repubs or Dems ever truly work towards dealing with poverty. Because as long as they're an incredibly poor class, we can continue to have an all-volunteer military, and not draft people and turn citizens against their government.

>>84113604
>World War 1 and 2 meant something.
Yes, the destruction of european powers

>>84109907
>everything was a dreeeeeam THE MOVIE
>Trying to pass a fictional chemical agent as something the really occurred in reality with that cringy "message" at the end of the movie.

Other than that, it's great.

>>84109941
I'm one of those people.
> first half of the movie is over
> riiiight they actually do go to war ... and one of them has a peace pin on his helmet

>>84109181
>Woooow we really changed the world man, the 60s were such a decade of change" level nostalgia bait for your parents.

You completely missed the point of Forrest Gump, didn't you? Jenny is the surrogate for all things usually glorified by 60's themed media and she ends up a depressed, unfulfilled, wage cuck single mother with AIDS whereas Forrest lived his life as earnestly as he could and ended up doing more than society ever told him he could.

redpill me on Vietnam, why JFK let that happened?

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>>84108628
This movie is about a man who with the power of Freedom™ befriended an entire village of Viet Kong and some French guy but while out on a mission a group of Soviets mercilessly slaughter them and now is out for revenge.

>>84108951
Most actual Nam vets I've spoken with are proud of their service and very humble. It's the hippy draft-dodgers who spend the whole decade getting high and protesting the war from their college dorms that give boomers a bad name.

>>84110655
Uncensored press using the power of television for the first time to show the horrors of war with maximum effect.

>>84112968
Walter Cronkite should've also been hanging from a tree for trying to call the Tet Offensive a disaster for coalition forces. He was personally responsible for it not being credited as it should have been - a complete military disaster for the North that lead to the destruction of the VC as a legitimate force.

>>84114970
CN wanted the rice fields in cambodia. Here's the current year situation.

http://www.world-grain.com/articles/news_home/World_Grain_News/2017/05/Cambodia_to_export_more_rice_t.aspx?ID=%7B622D959C-1350-4714-8FBC-88DC91742CC8%7D&cck=1

>The USDA said Cambodia’s rice millers have shifted their attention to the expanding Chinese market in light of new rules in the European Union that have tightened the residue limit of tricyclazole on rice. Cambodian rice farmers commonly use tricyclazole to control rice blast fungus, but effective June 2017 the E.U. said it will implement a new threshold of tricyclazole residue for white rice — 0.01 mg per kg of paddy — and in December 2017 will implement a new tricyclazole residue level for fragrant rice — at 0.01 mg per kg.

>>84108849
>arguing with retards on /tv/

You played yourself.

>>84113032
>It also looks like the use of ball powder had nothing to do with McNamara, but was a consequence of decision-making at the Army's Ordinance Dept.

Whom do you believe was in charge of giving specifications to Ordinance?

>this thread

>>84108628
Platoon Leader

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>jews attack american ship
>multiple fatalities and wounded ship almost sinks
>no reprisal
>VC boat looks in the general direction of american boat
>VC boat blown out of water
>scuffed the paint of a plane
>america goes to war

>>84108849
silly anon, da joos ARE the gommies

>>84110064
Fuck you, 6th sense stands up really well. Performances were great all round.

>>84115066
This. I once met an old Chicano who served in Nam, but now worked in my country. He spoke proudly of his service, but always talk shit about niggers saying they were cowards.

>>84116087
really?

>>84108628
>boomers crying about how they were drafted
I wish I could get drafted to go bang whores and get fucked up on drugs.