skyler hate thread

>>84103934
if you watch walt's last scenes with "his" kids theres a sttong subtext of cuckoldry

>>84103972
at skylers apartment? what do you mean?

>>84103982
watch the way walt holds holly and looks at skyler.. ted's babby. cut to walt crying watching junior from afar.. not his babby either. poor poor kukd walt.

>>84104470
/pol/ was right again

I watched the show for the first time recently and I liked Skylar a lot.

>>84104557
Shes an interesting character. Walt starts off as a decent character but he gets more and more dark as the series goes on, towards the end he is responsible for some horrible things. Skylar also isn't a perfect character but doesn't deserve anywhere near the amount of hate she actually gets. Most of the people who hate her do so rationalizing or pretty much just ignoring all the horrendous shit that Walt has done.

>>84104913
>take car of your family
>all your wife does is turn you into a cuck (as if she was able to stop caring about sex, lel)

yeah very original

>>84105029

It was pretty well established that "muh family" was just a pretext for Walt to play kingpin.

Marie should have been killed along with Hank

>>84104470

>junior
>not his

Who's kid is it then?

>>84104913
Nobody watched BB for moral dilemmas. They watched for "I'm the one who knocks". If Walt has to be a horrible person to get us that, then cool. Skyler has average people problems, she never killed anyone or made bombs. She and Walt Jr. Exist to keep Walt grounded, but that gets in the way of cool shenanigans and so we don't like them.

>>84104913
>REEEEEEEE AM I UNDER ARREST
Skylar was obnoxious as fuck

would you?

0 rewatchability

>>84105029

>muh family
Pretty much the go to argument for anyone cheering for Walt. In itself it isn't really an argument because the gray matter guy basically agreed to not only pay for all of Walt's medical expenses but also take care of his family when he was gone. So the whole 'Thinking/providing for his family' argument is kinda bs. Even when Walt gets more than enough money that his family might need, he doesn't stop. At the very end he even admits that he did it for himself, because it made him feel good. Even if you give him credit for trying to 'provide for his family' that still doesn't negate ALL the other fucked up shit he did, nor does it justify it. In comparison Skyler's sins don't even come close.

>>84105110
You're right. While I liked Skyler, Walt was a much more interesting and complex character. Skyler also had her own arch though. She kinda goes from someone who is pretty much a normal housewife to someone who also gets pretty dark. One of the later episodes where they were trying to figure out what to do with Jesse and Skyler was all 'Eh, what's one more body' showed that she'd also changed quite a bit from the person she was at the beginning of the show.

>>84105150
Which makes her annoying, but not deserving the hate she gets, especially compared to Walt's actions.

>>84104470

Stop projecting you idiot.

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>>84105698
>he didnt pay attention to what really happened with Walt, & lunch counter girl & the jews who manipulated him out of his fortune at Grey Matter

ok jr. try watching it when youve moved out of mommy's and have some life experience

>>84105572
Something I wish they'd addressed in the finale was why did Walt leave Grey Matter. I don't think there was ever a reason given.

But I would suppose it had to do with some slight where he felt he wasn't given proper credit for something as that was a recurring character fault all the way through the series.

>could've asked his mother for money and didn't even tell her he had cancer
>could've accepted his friends hand out and through it in their faces
>was given a way to launder the money with the online donations but resented that his son was getting the credit for it

>>84106651
I don't think they ever said directly why but I think it was related to his relationship with Gretchen. He wasn't pushed out or anything though, he left on his own.

All the points you made were valid though. From the get go Walt was given an option where his family would be taken care of. He didn't take it. Throughout the series there were multiple points where he could have just stopped, but didn't, which caused him to do a ton of unspeakable things directly, not to mention all the collateral damage that happened around Walt.

>>84103934
Money wasn't an issue
>Do you know how much i make a year? Even if I told you you wouldn't believe it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Voz1H40zI

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>>84103934
you made the claudia black hate thread too?
why not just /mysogynist general/

captcha "BBVA look"

skylar can get it thats all I'm saying man...

>>84106651

i think as the other guy said it was implied there was a love triangle thing and he probably didn't want to work at a place where he had to work with his ex and his friend who stole her from him.

i'm surprised they didn't at least give him stock options or something though or let him keep a small ownership stake considering he was a co-founder. maybe they offered but he was too prideful and didn't think he'd wind up teaching high school chemistry.

>>84106970
>/mysogynist general/
>hating bitch fictional characters

2010 is nearly ten years ago, legbeard.

>>84103934
I don't get what these people have for problems with Walt being a drug dealer. What do they care about those trash people that died through drugs?
Maybe moral outrage is understandable but then don't be fucking retarded.

>>84104913
A good wife would of at least cut him some slack on the whole meth thing, because he had cancer.

>>84108793
She cut him a lot of slack, the biggest one being not going to the cops when she found out he was making meth.

>>84106651
He left because hubris. He thought he didn't need them grey matter, that he could build the same thing alone after leaving.

WATCH BREAKING BAD

>>84106952

Skylar's constant nagging and running her bitch mouth utterly unaware of the situation at hand. Thoroughly justifies losing half a million of walts money that would have got him out sooner, but she used that on a problem that her twat created.

frankly walt should have left her with nothing as she was the most unhelpful person throughout the series and served as an obstacle every step of the way.

>>84109163
That's called marriage. You'll see.

>>84109204
>You'll see.

don't plan on it. but thanks for assuming a girl would marry me.

>>84104913

Well, early on in the show Walt is a sympathetic character. He has cancer, and we don't see the consequences to him cooking meth, like the addicts we see later on. The audience takes his intentions at face value.

Skylar, intentionally or not, is an early antagonist because she stands in the way of Walt, when we believe his intentions are somewhat pure. She's also a massive bitch about it.

I think we as audience members never get over that first impression of Skylar as a bitch who stands in Walt's way, even if we realizes he's doing things for ultimately selfish reasons.

>>84109163
All the characters are flawed in one way or another. Skyler blowing Walt's money on Ted was a bitch move. That entire chain of events was a result of Walt's actions. If he'd taken money from Gray matter guy Skylar wouldn't need to get a job. If Walt was honest with her from the beginning about the whole meth thing, again Skylar would have no reason to get a job. Skylar making decisions based on partial information was also Walt's fault for not being honest with her. Does that justify a lot of her actions? No, just like the whole 'He did it for his family' bs doesn't justify Walt's actions.

You can demonize Skylar all you want, but then don't go and prop up Walt. Skylar makes quite a few bad decisions, bad decisions she justifies to herself and rationalizes for various reasons, just like Walt. If you give Walt leeway for his bs rationalization, you have to do the same for Skylar.

skyler is a better character than kim

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>I fucked Ted.

Was this show made to appeal to betas?

We watch the ultimate cuck Walt become a "badass" and things happen such as Ted becoming paralyzed and bald/ugly.

>>84109324
Yeah I'd agree with that. A lot of what you said leads people to just not like Skylar, even though Walt is a considerably more horrible character, at least towards the end anyway. I think a lot of people also don't know how to cheer for Walt and come to terms with the fact that he is the cause of his own problems.

>>84109324
I agree. I feel like as someone else said we as an audience enjoy the "Heisenberg" antics. It's very difficult for us to see it from a concerned loved one's perspective and move away from the type of character walt becomes. I also think the general way her character behaves for herself, aka sleeping with her boss, leads the audience to see her as the self centered one.

Skylar is more complicated than I think the audience gives her credit for simply because she is looking out for her family but is caught between the struggle of dealing with Walt as a criminal. As an audience we (typically) only see her as an obstacle for the Heisenberg antics.

Removing her completely would mean that there's no one to ground Walt. No one else in the series can legitimately put him in his place, and that's why she needs to be a "bitch." She holds the key that relies as his main motivation; his children. If walt has no access to his kids it ruins his "I'm doing this for my family" act and exposes him for the selfish person he is.

TL;DR Skylar is a bitch but she has motivations even if it's against the audience's wishes.

>>84109393
>cancer man earns half million dollars
>cancer man's wife sucks other man's cock
>other man has debts with government
>wife justifies using money that isn't hers to save man not her husband
>somehow its all walt's fault for not taking the other money he earned and his wife did fuck all for.


the fact is we hate skylar because she was a shit person and all she gave walt was a bunch of bitching and a handicapped child.
Walt at every term was earning and suporting his family and never once cheated even with millions of dollars.

his wife is a whore, and she shouldve been killed by the cousins

This show is proof.that a series should never have a closed ended ending.

The final episode was a pretty big letdown after its all said and done.

>>84109559
lol, its funny how many breaking bad fans think mass murder is a lesser crime than cheating. A LOT of people died as a result of Walt's actions, both directly and in directly.. Buuut.. Skylar cheated, totally worse.

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>>84108976
This more or less. The entire theme of Breaking Bad was Walt's need to please his ego. The reason he kept making meth was because he felt like a kingpin. Hos friend straight up offered to pay for the cancer treatment anyway as a way to repay Walt ffs.

>>84109638
Yeah she really was a bitch

>>84109393
Didn't she pay Ted off to get the IRS odd their back though? What was wrong with that?

>>84109393
>bad decisions she justifies to herself and rationalizes for various reasons, just like Walt. If you give Walt leeway for his bs rationalization, you have to do the same for Skylar.


no I don''t

walt earns millions of dollars on his own even before skylar he had a better gf and a better job he sold his shares in gray matter for a down payment on a house for skylar and her handicapped child that probably isn't his.

skylar spends two seasons trying to force herself into walt's business then the last 3 fucking up his business and at the end of it all she has the gall to blame walt for everything as if he was selfish. In my opinion walt should have been selfish the entire time.

He would be alive and good friends with gus and mike if not for jesse or skylar.

>>84109790
>no she got the IRS off of TED'S back, in no way do I see this being walt's problem except for the fact she's having an affair with Ted and also cooked his books for him, therefore SHE was the problem and WALt's money was her solution to her problem of fucking her boss.

>>84109796
>Walter earned millions on his own
What? He sold his shares in Grey Matter for like 5000 dollars. The company wasn't worth anything when he left until the research material they took from him bore fruit

>>84109730
Yea well, he was good at making meth.

that's respectable, rather than bitching at people who are actually good at creating things

>>84109790
Yeah when the IRS got involved there was a chance they'd look into her, and a result stumble onto Walt's activities. Even so, Skylar paid off Ted behind Walt's back, which was wrong because her whole issue in the beginning was Walt not being honest with her, doing shit behind her back, then she does the same thing to him, with money that wasn't even hers no less.

>>84109796
Walt WAS selfish the entire time, he just told himself it was for his family, but it really wasn't. We've already established multiple times in this thread how Gray Matter would have not only payed for Walt's treatments but also supported his family if he happened to die.

Also if it wasn't for Jesse Walt would wouldn't even know where/how to get into the meth business. You're being awfully selective.

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>>84109948
It's kind of strange how they literally tell instead of show that Walt is a selfish dick in the end but it goes over everyone's head

>>84109948
name one good thing skylar has done on par with jesse shooting gale and cooking meth and helping on heists.

nothing

she sucked some cock and when it blew up in her face, she tried to fix a half million dollar problem.

thats the extent of how helpful she is.

Walt carries the entire show, therefore he is much likable.

his meth business caused many deaths, but at least it was his business.

skylar had no busniess of her own, she had one job at the carwash and didn't even do that right.

after all that she was still insufferable and placed all the blame on walt in the end, therfore if she can blame walt for everything then walt is responsible for the millions her son has now, and shes responsible for none of it.

>>84104913
People hate her because the writers never included anything to make her likeable.

Walter kind of started likeable

>>84109948

Elliot's offer to Walt was bullshit though.Walt may have sold his shares fair and square, but it's clear that they sort of agree with Walt's accusation that they stole his research, or at least failed to include him when they should have.

In their last interview, they falsely claim that all he contributed was the name, which is just as much a self serving lie as anything Walt did. And offering to pay for his treatments and take care of his family isn't right; if it was out of friendship, they would have offered him an actual position years prior, not some made up job to function as charity when he gets sick with cancer.

I wouldn't be surprised if Walt fucked himself somehow by burning bridges when he sold his share, but from what the audience witnesses, Walt was a genius chemist critical to Elliot and Gretchen's success, and they had no right to treat him like a charity case.

>>84105029
>take care of your family
>kill a man in the basement
>get the house bugged by a hitman
>have other hitmen infiltrate your house
>have a third group of hitmen infiltrate your house
>kidnapped the baby
>got his brother in law killed
>left them to be hounded by the media for the rest of their lives
>in the end only got enough money to put your kid through school
>take care of your family
You see, the joke is he ruined his family's lives and it's his fault

>>84110148

>name one good thing skylar has done on par with jesse shooting gale and cooking meth and helping on heists.
Jesse has fucked up way more things than he has actually helped with. People just let it slide because he is a likeable character and at least shows some remorse for the things hes done.

Skylar has done plenty of things that could be considered 'good'.
1. Trying to protect her kids from a husband who is in the meth business. Which is justified since there were plenty of occasions where they could have been killed as a result, like when Tuco's cousins were in their house to kill Walt.
2. Not going to the authorities when she finally found out Walt was a drug dearler
3. Trying to actively HELP Walt launder his money via the car wash business.

>his meth business caused many deaths, but at least it was his business.
That... Doesn't really justify the deaths..

>skylar had no busniess of her own, she had one job at the carwash and didn't even do that right.
It was an attempt to help Walt launder his money, and again it's something that wouldn't have happened if Walt had simply accepted Gray Matter money.

>after all that she was still insufferable and placed all the blame on walt in the end, therfore if she can blame walt for everything then walt is responsible for the millions her son has now, and shes responsible for none of it.
The show ends with Skylar, the baby, and Walt Jr. living in some shitty apartment, with the world knowing that their husband/father was a drug dealer. They didn't get shit. Assuming that somehow they get the money that Walt set up for them via threatening Gray Matter is like watching the end of the season where Gus dies and saying 'Oh hey Walt says I won, guess that means he wins.' Just about every plan Walt sets into motion fails in one way or another. There's no guarantee that his family will ever see any of that money.

>>84110328
Elliot's offer might have been bullshit, but it still would have provided for his wife and kids without anyone needing to die or any of the horrible things that happened after Walt decided to cook meth.

During the series they're confronted with, and even admit how much Walt contributed to Gray Matter 'It's as much ours as it is yours. The reason they said he only contributed to the name was because the world knew that Walt was a meth dealer, and they didn't want his actions to affect their business. It was a lie, but an easily justifiable one.

>I wouldn't be surprised if Walt fucked himself somehow by burning bridges when he sold his share, but from what the audience witnesses, Walt was a genius chemist critical to Elliot and Gretchen's success, and they had no right to treat him like a charity case.
Maybe a part of it was guilt. Either way for better or worse they DID offer Walt an out, which Walt refused to take.

>>84109268
why not, i was married twice.

>>84110603

Yeah I was rewatching that episode make sure I knew what I was talking about. So Gretchen even admits that Walt got screwed over. Skylar must know that, since that's how Walt came up with the down payment.

Realistically yes, this means that Walt turned down the opportunity to have his family taken care of without becoming a criminal. But to circle back to the topic at hand about why people dislike Skylar, she clearly misled Walt by telling Elliot beforehand about Walt's condition, which leads to Elliot pretending to offer walt a job when really he is giving him charity. It's emasculating, as Marie and Hank point out. As our then sympathetic protagonist, we want Walt to overcome his challenges, and Skylar often stands in the way of that.

Like others have said, Skylar is a necessary character for Walt if he is to become Heisenberg later, and I wouldn't say that her actions are selfish or immoral, but she really is a unlikeable bitch.

>>84105572
yeah but the adventure for Walt is precisely to stop becoming an underachiever cucked by anybody in his life and keep being castrated by his ''I am a protective mom'' wife

>>84105410
I just rewatched it a week ago. Every episode is 11/10 until the final 3.

>>84111144
Checked. Walt being an underachiever in the first place was Walt's fault. It was his own actions that led him to where he was when the series started.

>>84111128
Yeah, what it comes down to is Skylar just being unlikeable in a lot of ways. Her going behind Walt's back to tell Elliot about Walt's condition was her trying to make sure her family is taken care of after Walt dies, that's really no different than all the fucked up shit Walt does for 'muh family'. Skylar's actions while emasculating to Walt, would at least mean no one had to needlessly die.

>>84109638
only secular humanists fear death and think that it is really bad to die, but they have no problem about killing people they do not like

>>84103934
Stupid bitch

>>84110513
>Just about every plan Walt sets into motion fails in one way or another. There's no guarantee that his family will ever see any of that money.


ok i'll give ya that mang.

>>84103934

People hate her because she was a two timing bitch.

Walt was NEVER mean to her and he NEVER fucked around on her.

She bitched at him constantly and fucked around on him. That's why people hate her.

>>84110640
because women make me uncomfortable, not gay, just don't enjoy their company or "friendship" when it leads only to stress and failed marriages they can blame you for.

>>84111518
this.

it's like ignoring the fact she gave 600,000 to her boss whose cock she was sucking has to be ignored to like her, and even still she sucks

>>84111518
Oh yeah, this never happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYaWkZ-Zuc8

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>>84111657
I forgot about this hussy. She clearly makes advances and as usual when it comes to act and not words, she plays the confident card only here to help through talk.

>>84106952
>Be a simple teacher
>get cancer
>decide fuck it, cook meth and leave money for my family when I die
>risk life every day and be forced to even take life
>do it all for your family
>fucking wife gives the money you risked everything for to the guy she's fucking around with

Yeah, the money wasn't the issue. It was the action that Walt should have fucking wasted her ass.

>>84105070
Hank should have bashed her with his rocks
>THEY *smash*
>ARE *smash*
>FUCKING *smash*
>MINERALS *smash*
>MARIE *smash*

>>84105086
Hanks.

>>84104913
She's his wife. It was her choice. He could eat babies for breakfast, who cares. It's basically her job to support him. Same goes for that whiny faggot, Junior. It is not your fucking business what your father does for living. He's your father.
I've never understood those two.

>>84106470
>>84104470
>lunch counter girl
> walt's last scenes with "his" kids theres a sttong subtext of cuckoldry
who? do you have any links to those scenes?

>>84105086
well did she not get the fumes from working with ted ?

>>84111898
she married a spineless cuck and wanted him to continue that way. If anything if you don't like the "muh family" argument like people here are defending, than realize walt was stepped on his whole life, and for once had a chance to have power

>>84112050
Sure, if you admit that Skylar is to Walt what Walt is to Gus.

>>84111788
>Be a simple teacher
>get cancer
>decide fuck it, put my family's life on the line, be a criminal
>kill tons of people, get really greedy and start building my own drug empire
>all for my family
>wife somehow doesn't love me anymore
>gives her boss the cash I earned to not incriminate herself
>apparently fucks him too
yeah she's outright evil. jesus how much of a cuck do you have to be?

>>84111238
complete horseshit

>>84111898

Walt Jr's reaction was even more inexcusable than Skylers.

Seriously who givesba fuck what their parents do for a living long as they're around and not treating you like shit.

That crippled little shit can get fucked.

>>84112129

All of the problems between Walt and Gus was Jesses fault and the fact that walt constantly had to save Jesse's dumb ass.

The way Walt always had Jesse's back was as bro tier as it gets.

>>84112129
what do you mean? a liability and a child? of course he was. It was embarassing seeing walt's pathetic begging for gus' forgiveness and kindness and only fucking up harder each time. It doesnt matter to my initial point anyway. Walt was actually an essential for the operation, Skyler just married a castrated cuck and got bitchy when he got some balls back

>>84112394
>>All of the problems between Walt and Gus was Jesses fault
no it was the fault of gus who did not punish the two guys for killing the friend of jesse

very bad move from Gus

>>84103934
I just personally feel skylar would have been a bit too happy with walt dying of cancer and collecting his pension and money from the rich friends.

Noone wan't to suffer through life just to go out that way.

It's a bad deal and a waste of a brilliant mind.

He spent his life playing by the rules, and when the gloves came off he conquered a well established Cartel and seized a vast chink of the economy. All in a matter of months.

That's why we like walt he may be a dick, but he's tried not being a dick.

Skylar just never seemed to get with the program...that's not because she's a woman or anything, it's just that the character was written as an antagonist when the main character had no enemy at the moment.

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>>84112250
>Hurr I don't care if daddy murders people and deals drugs, at long as he buys me stuff and takes me places!

>>84109796
>her handicapped child that probably isn't his
source?

>>84112394
Why was Walt so attached to Jesse anyway? I forgot.

>>84112394
Walt knew how troublesome Jesse was from the very beginning. Walt should have killed Jesse early on, but he didn't which is also on him.

>>84112554
a non crippled son who actually share an interest in chemistry

>>84110513
>Trying to protect her kids
They are not "her kids". They are "their kids", at best. She tried to steal Walter's property not once, but twice. His money AND his children.
>Not going to the authorities when she finally found out Walt was a drug dealer
It's sort of a given for a married couple, no? Would you expect from someone to testify against his own brother, or mother, or whoever?
>They didn't get shit.
They would deserve that. But they've got everything, they just don't know about the source of that money. Rewatch the last season.

>>84109268
Don't grow up with that mentality, you're only gonna end up being used by some chick past her prime who realizes her only talent was being pretty a decade ago, so she starts searching for shmucks who get bashful at the attention of a girl because he never got it all his life before, therefore making sure she's still taken care of and doesn't have to go through a hard time ever

You should be prepared for it to happen because it definitely will, since you can't survive past the 30s without getting a job - which is what women will look after because she already got her fill of dick in their youth when you weren't worth shit in their eyes to even talk to them

Don't fall for it

>>84112558
Jesse was supposed to die in s2, Vince chose to keep him

>>84112612
But...he really loved his son and Walt was never shown to hold anything against him.

>>84112250
Walt should have disowned him as soon as he started calling himself Flynn.
It's bad enough when your son doesn't want to have your name but choosing fucking Flynn?
complete inexcusable.

>>84112554
>>84112558

Two things.

1. Jesse was a surrogate son to Walt.

2. Jesse was the only human being in that entire sordid business that Walt could count on not to try to stab him in the back and murder him.

>>84112516

>That's why we like walt he may be a dick, but he's tried not being a dick.
lol

>He spent his life playing by the rules, and when the gloves came off he conquered a well established Cartel and seized a vast chink of the economy. All in a matter of months.
I'll give you the cartel thing because he did manage to come out on top. Even though Walt knew how to make money he literally had no idea how to manage it. Every attempt at laundering it he either refused (The charity that Walt Jr. set up), or the car wash. He literally ended up just storing all the money in a storage room, then later in barrels. Even though he had hundreds of millions of dollars, he wasn't able to spend any of it because he had to keep up appearances. Not only that he ends up losing all of it to the Nazis in the end anyway. So yeah.. He came out on top when it came to taking on the Cartel, but what good did it do him? None.

>>84112656
>he really loved his son
what did he do to show this? dont just assume he loved his son. And dont take his word for it because walt is a notorious liar. Many parents resent their children for petty reasons, imagine having a cripple who refuses to even use your name that you gave him.
also that whole fundraising website thing

>>84109730
He was an underachiever stuck in a shitty job because he got undeservedly fucked over on more than one occasion, with the cancer being the final straw

There's no way you wouldn't do the exact same thing if you found out you had a talent like that

>>84112631
>It's sort of a given for a married couple, no? Would you expect from someone to testify against his own brother, or mother, or whoever?
I don't get it, being married means its okay to break the law, kill multiple people, but not cheat?

>They would deserve that. But they've got everything, they just don't know about the source of that money. Rewatch the last season.
They don't have shit. Walt has pretty much ruined their lives, which is why they were living in some shitty apartment. Yes Walt threatened Elliot to give money to his wife and kids, but there's no guarantee that it's actually going to happen. All of Walt's plans ultimately fail.

>>84112733
that's just the inevitable tragedy of the anti hero, it doesnt subtract from the merit of dominating a cartel in months

>>84112721
>
2. Jesse was the only human being in that entire sordid business that Walt could count on not to try to stab him in the back and murder him.
You realize ultimately it was Jesse who helped bring Walt down right? When he teamed up with Hank, literally betraying Walt in every way. So no, Walt couldn't count on Jesse.

>>84112733
All of this doesn't really matter. It's his money, he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it. He still was ridiculously good at what he was doing.

>>84112940
The Gray Matter money? That stopped being Walt's money the moment he cashed out.

He was too dumb to hold onto the money he made through selling Meth.

Seroulsly no one in this thread has or ever had a family member that dealt?

I'm not taking about the dope fiend that will steal your cd player and money stash. Im talking about a fully functiiny person that just happens to deal.

Now let me ask you. Have you ever reconsidered dropping a dime and narcing on thim? Because if the answer is yes then you should just kys.

>>84112851
Walt didn't really do shit when it came to the cartel, it was Gus who conquered the cartel.

>>84112813
>I don't get it, being married means its okay to break the law, kill multiple people, but not cheat?
Well, yes. I thought it was obvious. Breaking the law goes against the society, not against the family. Cheating is an action directly aimed against the family. Why am i even explaining that?
>there's no guarantee that it's actually going to happen
There's no guarantee that Martians didn't attack on the next day and destroyed the Earth. But let's stay in canon here, okay?

>>84113042
lol this. What do you expect from an anime website of sheltered middle class kids?

>>84113077
Walt lied to Skylar, which also goes against 'the family'. He didn't cheat on Skylar, but tried to, which is pretty close to actually cheating.

The reason that there's no guarantee that Walt's family will get the money actually follows the canon that's been set. Which is to say all of Walt's plans end up falling apart. I don't see any reason to see why the same thing won't happen with his last plan.

>>84112888

Yes I do realize that. Which all plays into the unflinching irony of the overall story.

But in the end it was the first point of my post that trumped everything else and also why Walt remained a sympathetic character to the end.

Walt was a bro to the end.

>>84103934
Really hated the character, moronic piece of shit whore. The ugly horse mug really fits well with this vapid cunt

So in the end, why did Sklar choose to be fucked by Tedd, instead of just giving him money

>>84113281
It's what women do to 'get back' at their husbands

>>84113281
Because she's a woman. They did managed to portrait that sort of behavior perfectly.

>>84106970
You should use a tripcode, so I can more clearly understand when my fellow Television and Film enthusiasts are performing wrongthing. Wouldn't want to mistake you for some troll, after all!

>>84106651
They did not give a reason
He went to meet her parents and things seemed to be going well but mid way through the weekend hes packing up and leaving then leaves the company
I think he probably had one of his moments where he gets some arrogant notion and does something incredibly stupid
Sort of like when he bought the car. He probably spent a lifetime bottling that impulse up in response to fucking up so bad, but the cancer unleashed it

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>>84109638

In ancient rome adultery was a crime and for good reason, a husband could even kill his slut of a wife if he caught her in the act, later on the cheater and their lover would lose half their shit and have it given to the victim

The only people against severe punishments for cheaters are sluts and whores and that goes for both genders

>>84114604
So what should Walt's punishment be for trying to cheat?

>>84114677

>Trying

No victim, no crime
When he did inevitably cheat though? Same as Skylar's

>>84109638

Its okay to mass murder criminals you fucking moron kys asap

>>84103934
I tried watching this series twice, both times this cunt made me stop watching at some point in season 2.

>>84109638
If you get murdered then that's it it's over, but if you get cheated on then you have to live with that for the rest of your life

At least her character made sense. Although annoying you can understand why she did what she did.

This is the complete opposite to house of cards where Claire gets a free pass to cuck her husband because she's empowered.

>>84111949
He also actually kind of looks like Ted, at least a lot more than he does Walt. But then again I doubt they had much to choose from from the pool of crippled young actors.

>>84112888
Walt literally lets Jesse go after that, unpunished.

>>84109007
I started BB a year ago and havent got it in me to finish it. Dont know why

>>84103934
Maybe they should have written her better.

>>84113042
My husband was one and he would tell me not to say anything if it anything happens to him and I wouldnt narc on him as well. No matter what.

>>84104470
She fucked Ted after Walt became a drugsman.

>>84113042
> Im talking about a fully functiiny person that just happens to deal.
They generally don't deal. They're into import/export. Such as people that have totally normal jobs that get honey wax mailed from Colorado and disposable vape pens ships from China and sell loaded pens in bulk to roadies and crew at concert venues.

Or at least that's one thing that a normal person may do to make money and definitely not me.

>>84113042
I sell pot. But not as a business. I sell pot to afford the pot I smoke. Why pay $50 an 8th when you can pay $20 an 8th if you buy a QP? Then just it all to like 3 dealers.

fuking botch gave all that money to ted , that guy Gus should have tortured this bitch to death , fucking scum , the retarded kid was an asshole too ,

>>84113160
>all of Walt's plans end up falling apart.
His plan to murder Gus Fring worked out perfectly

>>84113160
His plan to kill the nazis and free Jessie worked out perfectly.

>>84118996
He still doesn't get HIS money, though I suppose you could argue that was a 'part of his plan.'

For the sake of argument I'll give you that ONE of his plans ended up working out, even then it cost him his life. As far as cannon goes it's not the best track record. So threatening Elliot MIGHT work out for Walt, but chances are it probably won't.

>>84118262
Leaves a fuckton of evidence behind, which ultimately exposes him. So no, I wouldn't say it worked out perfectly.

>>84109598
I thought the ending was fine but would have been completely satisfied if they just ended it at Face Off.

>>84115923
I don't think logic is going to get in the way of that guys cuck fantasy.

>>84114850

>it's ok to murder criminals
Tons of people die as a result of Walt's actions, not all of them were criminals, quite a few weren't actually.

>>84119260
But a shit ton of his plans worked out, in the short term. Poisoning the kid with the plant DID accomplish what he needed at the time to get Jesse on his side. It only backfired later.

Having Jesse kill Gale to make himself unkillable DID work out. It prevented him from dying immediately.

Blowing up Tuco or whoever in season 1 with the bomb worked out I think?

The train heist worked out.

A lot of his shit worked out because of his competent scheming. He WAS pretty good at being a criminal. He fucked over and ruined everyone and everything in his wake but in the end he died on his terms as a badass boogieman criminal.

not the guy you where talking to just smoked a bunch of thc vape

>>84105572
>One of the later episodes where they were trying to figure out what to do with Jesse and Skyler was all 'Eh, what's one more body' showed that she'd also changed quite a bit from the person she was at the beginning of the show.
She always hated Jesse and probably blamed him for getting Walt into the drug world.

>>84111144
>it's Skyler's fault Walt is a vindictive underachieving betazoid

>>84119866

>But a shit ton of his plans worked out, in the short term. Poisoning the kid with the plant DID accomplish what he needed at the time to get Jesse on his side. It only backfired later.
>only backfired later.
Pretty sure that still counts, could just argue the Elliot blackmail plan backfires somehow.

>Having Jesse kill Gale to make himself unkillable DID work out. It prevented him from dying immediately.
In part what causes Jesse to unravel, ultimately Jesse turns against Walt.

>Blowing up Tuco or whoever in season 1 with the bomb worked out I think?
Ultimately causes Tuco to kidnap Walt and Jesse, where they almost die until Hank saves them. Leads to the cousins almost killing Walt and his family. Leads to Hank almost dying, which leads to Hank going detective crazy while he is recovering, which causes him to expose Walt.

>The train heist worked out.
Kid dies, in part another big reason Jesse ends up turning on Walt, so no. I wouldn't say perfectly.

>A lot of his shit worked out because of his competent scheming. He WAS pretty good at being a criminal. He fucked over and ruined everyone and everything in his wake but in the end he died on his terms as a badass boogieman criminal.
It's pretty well established that Walt was a terrible fucking criminal. The only thing he was good at was cooking meth. Even after all of his fuck ups, you could say it was Hank that finally brought him down, who at one point was basically convinced that Gale was Heisenberg, until Walt convinces him otherwise, and Hank keeps digging.

Yeah, in part Walt's plans work, but pretty much every time something as a result to fuck Walt over. It would be stupid to assume Walt's family ends up with any kind of money just because it was one of Walt's plans.

>>84115227
>unpunished
Punished, actually. He give them to the Nazis, and they killed his mexican waifu. They all ended well.

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>>84112206
what show did you watch?

>>84105110

>Guy goes from relatively normal guy to drug dealer becoming part of the criminal world and dealing with the elements that are involved in this.
>Not watching for the moral dilemmas.

Wut?

>>84112888
>You realize ultimately it was Jesse who helped bring Walt down right? When he teamed up with Hank, literally betraying Walt in every way. So no, Walt couldn't count on Jesse.
They always stuck together through thick and thin. He only turned on him when he realized Walt had lost every ounce of conscience. Killing the nazis and freeing Jesse was basically his final act of redemption.

>>84113042
She never "narced" on him. But such a thing would, at the very least, put a strain on one's relationships. You sound like a degenerate.

>>84122736
There were plenty of times where the two fought with one another. After Walt and Jesse got their first big payment from Gus and Walt 'quit', Jesse tried to sell to Gus on his own. Walt put a stop to that pretty quick and pretty much forced Jesse out of the business. When Hank beats the shit out of Jesse, Jesse threatens Walt, telling him not only would he continue making meth on his own, but if he ever gets arrested he'd turn in Walt to save his own ass. "You're my get out of jail free card." At one point Gus starts grooming Jesse, basically starts working for Gus, despite Walt's strenuous objections. Walt also killed Jesse's girlfriend, not to mention Walt was the one who gave Jesse to the Nazis, telling him he killed his gf, after which Jesse became a caged slave for the Nazis. So no, I wouldn't say they 'stuck it together through thick and think' They had a really rocky relationship throughout the entire series.

>>84123503
Point is, they've been through some shit together. They have a special kind of bond. That silent nod in the final episode really sums up their relationship in a way that no dialog could have.

>>84123503
>Walt put a stop to that pretty quick and pretty much forced Jesse out of the business.
at what point did you guys realize Walt is an asshole?

>>84114594
I assumed he proposed to her and she said no, or she admitted to having an affair with the third guy. He was a total beta before the meth, so I doubt it was anything he did.

It wasn't so much Walt being blameless but Skyler almost immediately going from understandably shocked and ready to leave him, to being all "ok I'm going to help you commit crime and get money but you and I are through and I'm going to fuck my boss."

And she was already playing the role of naggy domineering wife in the first two seasons, so that certainly didn't help after Walt grew a pair.

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>>84112206
Fuck you anon

>>84104470
You need to stop letting your personal life distort your interpretation of fictional characters' lives.

>>84124907
>Skyler almost immediately going from understandably shocked and ready to leave him, to being all "ok I'm going to help you commit crime and get money but you and I are through and I'm going to fuck my boss."
She only got on the meth train when Hank got shot and couldn't pay for proper medical care.

>And she was already playing the role of naggy domineering wife in the first two seasons
Someone has to wear the pants in the family.

>>84105110
thatsabingo.gif

>>84109163
So when Walt was offered the $5 million for his share of methylamine and turned it down, was Skylar to blame for that too?

>>84125828
no that was walt doing walt and getting shit done free of skylar
remember the train robbery to acquire the chemical?

walt is a thief and murderer we like him anyway because respect that he does a job well.

skylar is walts wife, she is not a cool character and is an obstacle to walts coolness

>>84126957
Remember the kid getting killed and forever MIA with the parents never knowing what happened because Walt decided to fuck up the good thing he had with Gus? So awesome, isn't he? Literally my idol.

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