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/who/ is Moffchad Territory Edition

Last Thread >>84036484
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first for RTD
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>>84041641
>/who/ is Moffchad Territory Edition
Think again, buddy!
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Imagine getting autistically angry because someone likes something you don't
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>>84041641
Yes, yes, well done NuWho. HOWEVER
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I can still rewatch Empty Child / Doctor Dances, Blink and maybe Girl in the Fireplace, but I noticed that when you are being grown-up Library two-parter doesn't really work anymore. Last time I found it oddly-paced and just unengaging. Not sure what's wrong with this one, but it fell from 10/10 kino territory to something like 5-6/10
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>The Doctor Falls No More
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>>84041954
>Smile No More
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>>84041954
>Blink No More
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>>84041954
>Sleep No More No More
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>>84041954
>Sleep No More No More
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>>84042060
>>84042067
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9I_Xp9-1-c
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JUST A REMINDER THAT ZA IS NO LEADER
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>>84042093
>the cyberman chest unit is growing out Bill's chest at 0:06

Ugh.
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Stop it before it starts, stop replying to bait and they'll leave
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>>84041954
>World War Three No More
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>>84042168
But anon, JNT really was a shit showrunner.
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>>84041704
Second for RTD
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>>84041954
>Knock Knock
>Who's there?
>No More
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>>84042145
That's probably just her breathing and the chest unit rising up.
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>showrunner wars
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The Doctor is never in danger. At least in the current era.

He is perfect. He never fails. Everyone in the universe adores him. He is literally the president of the Earth. And took over Gallifrey in 15 minutes. He is almighty, wise, smart, handsome (yes I'm talking about Capaldo).
With the current style of writing it's literally impossible to put him in danger. Literally. There's no way he can lose anything.
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>>84041641

I'm late to the party lads. How and why the fuck is John Simm back?
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>>84042212
>>84041704
Are there people who unironically think Tennant's era was better than Smith or Capaldi? At best his shit was an 8. At worst it causes complete confusion how anyone sat down and said "We should keep making this for television."
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you are talking to a BOY?
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>>84042145
She's clearly breathing you autist.
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>>84042413
>how
we'll find out next week
>why
shit ratings
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>>84042425
Don't post non canon stuff in /who/ please
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>>84042398
He failed last episode. He's probably going to fail in this finale.
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Time's winged chariot hurrying near, and yonder all before us lie, deserts of vast eternity.
Thy beauty shall no more be found, Nor, in thy marble vault, shall sound

My echoing song; then worms shall try
That long preserved virginity, and your quaint honour turn to dust, and into ashes all my lust, the grave's a fine and private place

But none, I think, do there embrace.
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>>84042419
11's run was royally moffucked. Smith wasn't bad but most of his episodes were pure garbage.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4xm9NHNUf8
The Family of K I N O
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>>84042419
Tennant's only good season is S3. S2 only has 2 decent episodes and S4 is boring as shit
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>>84042549
>The Family of K I N O
Adaptation makes no sense, 10 was most human incarnation, there's no contrast with him and John Smith like there was with 7
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I only realised earlier, randomly, that the only 3 planets/settings in Series 9 were Earth, Skaro and Gallifrey. Yawn.
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>>84042509
>believing smith's era was fucked
>tennant started with literally the worst season of doctor who in the show's 50 years
>there wasn't even noncanon ear story seasons as bad as series 2
>There was a season with a rainbow motherfucker strangling people and timelash happened and it was still better than series 2.
>there was a year when some americans got together and made a movie starring a british alien and daphne ashbrooks sweet tits and it was still better than the seasonal average of series 2.
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>>84042638
The solo stories in S2 weren't that great but all of the 2 parters are GOAT
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>>84042626
the space station in sleep no more? the confession dial? And that's not even counting different eras of Earth history
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>>84042638
>series 2 is bad meme
oh god
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>>84042626
>>84042682
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>>84042709
But you never watched Series 2 anon
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>>84042679
They wasted 2 2parters on ruining anything cool about the cibberymen. They literally tried to adapt the greatest cybermen story ever told and fucked it up. And then made them the Daleks' bitches. How is that GOAT?
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>>84042679
the finale is awful, the cibsicle two parter is mediocre, and the satan two parter is overrated to shit. put it in series 1, 4, 5, 8 or 9 and it wouldn't get nearly as much praise
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>>84042728
I did
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>>84042733
>people defend this promo
Seriously, just how? It's very cheap.
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>>84042638
>blaming americans for leafshit
day of the rake when
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>>84042720
>end of the world
>long game
>bad wolf/parting of the ways
>present
excuse me what
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>>84042086
I said it first
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>>84042830
Long game says spaceship. The other ones do take place at least partially in the present.
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>>84042830
They do spend a minute in end of the world and bad wolf/parting of ways in the present. In long game they drop off adam mitchell to his mom, but thats technically a few years into the future in that story.
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Lowest
Ratings
Ever
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>>84042626
The Ninth Doctor didn't even leave the Solar System in Series 1
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>>84042792
I thought it was fanart when I first saw it
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I only realised earlier, randomly, that the only 2 planets/settings in Series 1 were Earth and a Space Station above Earth. Yawn.
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So, the upcoming finale is where Simm, who has survived The End of Time, regenerates into Gomez gets Cybermen Technology and goes on to create the Nethersphere, right?
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>>84043208
He didn't really left Earth's orbit (Except maybe in End of the World, where I'm not sure where station was placed)
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>dalek was set 5 years ago

woah
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfTGVnk_XEU
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>>84043300
We don't know, the episode hasn't aired yet
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>>84043169
>implying ratings matter when doctor who sells merchandise by the truckload.

"Oh no, we better cancel Doctor Who for not having 10 million in ratings on a tiny island when it makes millions more in the US in commercials, theatre showings and the truck loads of doctor who merchandise that brings in hundreds of millions every year"

They're not going to cancel doctor who when they make more money on it than anything else on british tv. Literally 5 people could watch it and they'll still sit down and make 14 episodes a year as long as 40,000 $30 sonic screwdrivers keep selling
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K I N O

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih5NcmecGjU
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>>84043322
>Ramon Salamander comes to power in this year

Took advantage of the power vacuum left behind by the monks I see.
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>>84043434
If 5 people watched it, how would 40,000 sonic screwdrivers sell?
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>>84043434
>>implying ratings matter when doctor who sells merchandise by the truckload.
implying merch sales haven't drastically dropped in the UK
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>>84043496
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>>84043496
>SERIES 9 SOUNDTRACK WHEN
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>>84043439
K I N O
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>>84043496
>implying anyone gives a shit about uk merch sales after theresa may fucked the pound
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>>84043542
Not anon but there was a pic going round on Twitter a while back comparing how much merch there was in a shop during the Tennant era (an entire wall of the store) to the late Smith/early Capaldi era (about 2 action figures on the corner of a shelf).
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>>84043434
Is Doctor Who even big in America anymore compared to how it was back in the Tenth and Eleventh Doctor eras?

As an Amerilard I remember Doctor Who being all over the damn place around the time of the 50th. Nowadays, the Doctor Who fan club at my uni died and you see a lot less Doctor Who merch around the cancerous "geek" stores
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>>84043490
Overseas to geek teens. Do you know how many people have bought a 4th doctor scarf without watching one episode from his era?
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>>84043614
>Doctor Who being all over the damn place around the time of the 50th
To be fair, it was the 50th, it was promoted like mad
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>>84043271
yup it sucked


not doing much more exploring this season, pretty much every episode follows the same pattern this year
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>>84043434
>Merch sales
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>>84043659
Purely anecdotal/cherry picking but compare the vibrancy and vastness of that display to an more recent example (the "2010 rebrand" really made everything quite dull and boring and less-fun)
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>>84043659
The golden age.
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>>84043594
I don't see action figures (Star Wars, Doctor Who etc.) sold anywhere other than shops like Forbidden Planet now.
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>>84043693
who else has one of those kino TARDIS laptop bags? i can't be the only one here
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>>84043659
>>84043693
am I having fucking deja vu or have I seen these exact posts before
it's a good point though, google image search doctor who nowadays and it is so fucking blue it's ridiculous
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>>84043693
>liking a surfboard set on fire everywhere.

Gonna have to take a hard pass anon. Rebrand looks better.
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>>84043659
this looks awful. series 2 era promos were the worst
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>>84043734
Basically this. You might occasionally find some sonic screwdrivers or something in cheapo shops and bargain bins, but generally it's all in Forbidden Planet and aimed at the tweenagers and young adults (and the old weirdo fans) rather than the young kids.
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>>84043773
christ it's like they surprised him on a night out with the flash on and then photoshopped his face onto his own pinstripe suited body
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>>84043779
Really? I see doctor who displays in book stores, comic stores and even target where I live.
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>>84043746
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>>84043773
>BLUR
>EVERYTHING
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>>84043740
Only piece of merch I own is a TARDIS hat someone lost on a rollercoaster at a theme park I used to work at
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>>84043659
Those were the days, when Who was kino.
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>>84043767
Give me colour and vibrancy over a really boring brand design any day.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9I_Xp9-1-c
this looks great, it'd be great if they actually aired doctor who finales in that aspect ratio
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>>84043767
Rebrand is boring.
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>>84043839
And bitches were THICC.
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Why does Doctor Who have such a cancerous community? Everywhere there is at least one person who approaches you and says "your taste in doctor who is shit" and everything ends up in a clash. Always.
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>>84043839
>kino
>Pre-2010
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>>84043892
you aint wrong
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>>84043930
Yes. It was.
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>>84043908
I challenge you to find any online fandom that isn't cancerous.
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>>84043892
>>84043959
RTD was all about that colour and catching kids attention and being bright, bold and exciting. The 2010 rebrand onwards just looks so uninspired and dull.
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>>84043908
because doctor who can basically be anything, there's a lot of different things people want it to be
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>>84043989
Awesomenauts
Tolkien
Smite
Buffy
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>>84043969
Anything with that fugly mug legally can't be considered kino. It's a law, look it up.
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>>84044038
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>>84043969
Nah. It really wasn't.
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>>84044047
>Implying you would let her freshen yer cock
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you know i think even the wiki has been overrun with plebs. i was in an edit war with someone over where hell bent belonged on the official power rankings, someone made an article on trolling that sounds dated as shit (they literally say "failtroll") and some brony made a positive article on my little pony.
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>>84044062
What's funny about that?
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>>84043886
why do I see a bunch of cybermen with accordions strapped to their chests in the thumbnail
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>>84043908
Legit tho
>Went to the Seven Eleven to get a slushie/snacks the other day
>I was wearing a DW shirt
>Go to pay for my snacks
>The cashier stops me
>"I love your shirt!"
>"Oh? Thanks"
>"But I didn't really like [companion on my shirt] I prefer [other companion] and Nine was better and Tom Baker is the best Doctor and---'
>There are like five people in line behind me and he's still going >Mfw
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>>84044068
I'd rather go with Mileena from Mortal Kombat, thank you.
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>>84044064
>black kid steals people and has an abusive dad

lmao
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>>84044068
Nah mate. Her chav teef might grate your cock like parmesan.
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>>84044083
Okay this is fucking scary. First the RTD invasion and now this? Is /who/ dying? Say it ain't so
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>>84044083
Looks like it needs to be deleted
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>>84044064
>>84044047
Denying kino. You poor Moffags.
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>>84044083
>failtroll

I cringed so hard my intestines started falling out of my arse
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>>84044104
Edge, feels good to have you around. Just sayin.
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>>84043908
My experience with Doctor Who fandom is quite positive, but that's probably because here in Russia it's small enough to be manageable.
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To expand on this ideea that Missy is pretending to be the Doctor and Simm!Master believes it:

Imagine if, when she meets Simm!Master, she goes all “I, the Doctor, am overwhelmed by your amazing plan, Master. How could I ever stop this?? Truly you have bested me, as always, thanks to your superior mind!”.

And the Doctor sees it because of course he has a way to watch and communicate with her. And he keeps telling her to stop embarrassing him in front of her previous self.
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>>84044175
K-k-kino guys. Amirite?
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>>84044216
Shut up streamfag. If I call you a 'fag' will your country's secret police ban you from the internet and kill you?
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>>84043959
>>84043990
The current packaging may be dull and boring but I have to say, I will always prefer the '96 logo to the '05 one.

That weird eye / ellipse logo just doesn't feel 'Doctor Who' to me. Not sure why.

Pic related is the GOAT logo though.
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>>84044214
D'awww
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>>84044243
Yikes, he's seething now!
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>>84044243
THE IMAGE RTDBADS DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE
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>>84044236
>To expand on this ideea that Missy is pretending to be the Doctor and Simm!Master believes it:
Why? It's obviously not true. The Master would know that the Doctor doesn't call himself Dr. Who.
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>>84043990
>RTD
>thinking showrunners have anything to do with the marketing
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>>84044301
Am I kino too guys?!?
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Threadly reminder that the next episode is all a simulation and everyone is going to be cross that it's not really Simm but you should blame the trailer people and not Moffat.
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>>84044216
>implying
>if you don't follow "I love current era" narrative you are hated to death
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>RTDfags will defend this
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>>84044314
>Too stupid to understand the episode
Gotta feel sorry for this one
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>>84044326
>The Doctor would know that the Master isn't a woma...
Things change, fuccboi.
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RTDfags will defend the existence of these monsters (both of them) as being "fun"
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>>84044369
It's fucking hilarious tho
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>>84044369
>Moffsubhumans will defend this
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>>84044345
Well, RTD did. He said as much in an interview and in his book. He could stop merchandise being made, at the very least, if he didn't think it was suitable. (Although god knows where his quality filter was when they greenlit DAMAGED BROKEN CASSANDRA and FACELESS GRAN)
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>>84044376
Guys stop making fun of him for literally wanting to watch this instead of The Eleventh Hour or Hell Bent.
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>>84044419
You will never understand clever parody of the 80s american sci-fi alien movies and government-taken-by-aliens trope, cats
You are really too stupid to understand how clever it indeed is
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>>84044452
>subhumans

rtdbads are the true subhumans. they are FILTH. HUMAN FLITH THAT MUST BE CLEANED FROM THE EARTH WITH A GREAT SCRUBBING BRUSH AND THE PAUNT BRUSH SCUBBING BRUSH IS PAINT WITH BLOOD. AND GUTS AND DELIFICOUS BRIANS OF THOSE WHO HAVE NO BRAIN CELLS THATS THEY LIKE RTD. JUST UNTERMECHS
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>>84044419
>Doesn't understand fart kino
Is it a requirement for Moffags to have small brains?
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>>84044452
HAHAHA


JUST
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>>84044526
>Doesn't understand fart kino
You've overdone it now, mate, way too obvious.
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>>84044515
>fart jokes
>clever
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>>84044419
Aside from farting, I don't think they are that bad. I'm not RTD fag though, so what do I know?
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>>84044515
There's a fucking meter stick between clever parody and hitting you over the head with a crowbar because subtlety isn't your strong point
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>>84044452
Truly epic Moffat, will drive the moffags crazy.
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>>84044515
You liked BvS, didn't you?
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>>84044525
kek
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>>84044452
Haha true that was fucking ridiculous

now back to the true drama of a police phone box flying through time and space
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>>84044525
Sssh, sssh... no sleep, only dreams now.
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THE SHOWRUNNER WAR HAS BEGUN. EVERYONE PICK A SIDE AND FIGHT TO THE MOTHERFUCKING DEATH
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>>84044525
No, seriously. Drop the ad hominem crap and actually defend it.
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WHO /CHIBCHAD/ HERE
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>>84044610
Derrick Sherwin
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>>84044610
I'm team Phil Ford and Gareth Roberts of SJA fame.
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>>84044635
>autistic stimming quark
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the most gruesome Cyberman moment in the last 50 years
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>>84044610
Can there be a 3rd Briggs Finish side?
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>>84044632
moffchad/chibchad alliance? friend? as the leader of the moffchads i also welcome any wileschads (a second position of mine), veritychads, inneschads, sherwinchads, bryantchads and hinchchads into this alliance
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>>84044550
Underage Moffags everybody.
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>>84044550
So that's everything that you see? Once again, you prove yourself dumb. Slitheen story is a very subtle parody of 80s movies and conspiracy stuff about aliens taken over government. On the one hand, their faces look like basic grays or whatever you imagine when you think of canonical 'alien', but they are also fat and clumsy, which makes good fun out of them. This is really clever design, and it's not cheap at all if we take television budget into account. It is indeed too subtle for you cats, you have to watch something more straightforward, like Missy copying Mary Poppins or something.
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>>84044550
The episode really went over your head there.
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>>84044725
i'm aware that it's parodying conspiracy theories you dolt. any "subtlety" (there's none) about that is overridden by the obnoxious fart jokes
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>>84044699
>he doesn't like fart jokes or being anvillicious as a horse ferrier. He must be young.
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>>84044784
>obnoxious fart jokes
Too stupid to understand then?
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>>84044787
>Posting the worst Doctor
Not helping your point!
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>>84044419
Tbh I never understood the autistic screeching over a few fart jokes, ill-fitting though they were.

The stories themselves were actually bretty gud.
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>>84044784
Oh yes, you are aware because someone in the thread said that, and everything you've seen before in this episode is just 'farting haha'. Cats, once again, try something easier, like Wedding of River Song.
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>>84044787
why are you taking the bait
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>>84044419
>fat, repugnant farting monsters called Slitheen
>rhymes with Levine
What did RTD mean by this?
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>>84044864
i'm aware because it's obvious. i've spent my fair share of time on /x/ to know all about "muh aliums in the gubmint" and even before that it was hardly a hidden subtext. i've no doubt someone as stupid as you pats themself on the back for thinking of it though, and pretends that they have discovered a whole new interpretation of the episode
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well of coors cats iz rite..... bowties r cool so.. geronimo.. basically.. basically its the eyebrows but basically run.. basically.. sexy.. so sexy basically.. lesbian.. black.. sexy.. basically.. run sexy..
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>>84044419
>An alien species that is implied to not actually be single-minded with Slitheen family being criminals wanted on their home planet
>Never used in this capacity
>Nobody even remember their species isn't called Slitheen

What a waste. And all because of questionable design.
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>>84044924
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Why are they using Cybus Cybermen as a future version of the Mondasian Cybermen when the Cybus ones are from a completely different universe and aren't even connected? It's not a future version of them.

REEEE
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>>84044934
>i'm aware because it's obvious
And even if it's obvious, you still managed to miss the subtlety of how well it was written into actual cool adventurous story. The greatness of that two parter is provided by how well these caricature slitheen aliens were integrated into a exciting and engaging plot. Not to mention all the great scenes Ninth has in it.
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>>84045014
>What a waste.
Not if you watch Sarah Jane Adventures.
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>>84045033
Moffat has retconned almost everything that doesn't fit in with his image of the show so this will be of no concern to him.
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>>84045014
People were so triggered by the fart jokes that they were never brought back.

IIRC Moffat wanted to have some Raxacoricofallapitorians (and a bunch of other alien races from past seasons) in the Shadow Proclamation but the idea never made it out of the drafting stage.
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>>84044934
Haha, I honestly didn't know cats was this stupid.
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>>84045059
The stories are better (And thematically work better) but I think weaker than most. (And nobody is bothered that they god covered in alien gore, this bothers me) but they still aren't used in the capacity I described.
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>>84045054
next you're gonna say the slitheen's release of gas represents how extremist movements (such as the slitheen's fascistic attempt to take over) allow the middle class to release stress about their life through a convenient scapegoat such as migrants, cletusesm etc.
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>>84045101
>IIRC Moffat wanted to have some Raxacoricofallapitorians (and a bunch of other alien races from past seasons) in the Shadow Proclamation but the idea never made it out of the drafting stage.
You're getting mixed up with RTD. RTD's plan for the Shadow Proc in Series 4 was to have it crammed full of monsters and aliens, old and new, but the budget didn't allow for it.
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>>84045150
source: The Writer's Tale (here's a doodle by RTD of how he imagined it)
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>>84045129
>next you're gonna say the slitheen's release of gas represents how extremist movements (such as the slitheen's fascistic attempt to take over) allow the middle class to release stress about their life through a convenient scapegoat such as migrants, cletusesm etc.

Now you're overcompensating and setting blame on a strawman. This is embarrassing, even for you. I can see you're struggling to understand.
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>>84044924
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>>84045150
every time i hear about this i am reminded of rtd's stupidity. he didn't think the s4 finale was bloated enough as it was and he obviously had no concept of budgeting. hence why effects and cinematography have gotten better while the budget goes down
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>>84045113
The Gift does use the idea that the Slitheen are wanted by their own people, even if the other Raxicofallapitorians in the episode turn out to be evil anyway.
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>>84045129
no, because it wasn't implied. you are just proving yourself more and more dumb because you missed how well parody subtlety and great action-oriented plot merged together in a enjoyable way.
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>>84045208
>he didn't think the s4 finale was bloated enough as it was and he obviously had no concept of budgeting. hence why effects and cinematography have gotten better while the budget goes down
Pretty sure he did, which is why a lot of his crazy ideas were scaled down. Come on m8, he's writing Doctor Who - why wouldn't he want a scene whereby a bunch of aliens show up?! He eventually kind of managed it in the alien bar in End of Time, and Moffat did similar in Pandorica Opens.
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>>84045179
That's pretty good for a sketch.
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>>84045222
>enjoyable

if you honestly believe the episodes were enjoyable you are a lost cause and rather than being converted you will just die in the moffchad uprising
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>>84045208
>i am reminded of rtd's stupidity.
Do you need a break? You seem to be falling apart.
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>>84045268
RTD is a great doodler. He pitched a graphic novel to BBC Books for the 50th but they turned it down.
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HELLO DOCTOR /WHO/ GENERAL!

WHO TAKES THE SHOW, TAKES THE THREAD

BUT BAD NEWS EVERYONE.. CAUSE GUESS WHO? HAHA!

Now, you're all in here fighting and flailing, and, you know, that's fine, that's fine, but what you've got to do for me now is be quiet because I need to TALK TO ALL OF YOU!

Listen to me, please. Let me walk you through this. Answer me this: whose era was more fun? The answer is, mine! And, now, whose era was better-written, had better characters and stories, and wasn't just a string of one-liners and endings that weren't thought out at all?

Come on! Look at my era! No clout, no ethos among the youthful masses, and no budget worth a damn. Oh, and NO DANNY PINK! So, if you're sitting there in front of your computers and phones, and you've got any machinations about the Moffat era being better than mine, then just remember who I am and what I did. Remember every fun, hyped-up series finale. Remember all of the dazzling excitement and high ratings. Remember the well-written one-off characters whom you remember better than some of Moffat's recurring ones. Remember the warmth and glow of good writing, and remember how even at its worst, my era could out-do Moffat's best.

And then do the smart thing. Call yourself an RTDchad.
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KILL THE RTDFAGS
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>>84044864
Let me explain the difference here between what's subtle and what's not subtle, because you don't seem to have a goddamned hold on it:

>Not subtle: Aliens come into power, use a fake alien invasion to make aliens the bad guys, then reveal themselves at a press conference by farting and electricuting people while laughing, unzipping scooby-doo esque people suits and plan to take over the world on live tv.

>subtle:aliens come to earth and hide as politicians, building legitimate political careers. Over time they craft legislation on terms giving rights to everyone, conveniently avoiding any wording involving the word human. One day aliens in the city launch terrorist attacks, forcing the good aliens in government to reveal themselves. Humanity must then decide if aliens are good or bad based on the work of the few on both sides. On another complex layer, is the fact that the aliens in govt. Avoided human wording mean they are evil and being self serving or does guaranteeing themselves the same rights as basic humans instead of just living cushy lives as humans in disguise mean they are good?

And by the way, subtle parody is an oxymoron you asshat. To parody something means you blow up the underlying characteristics to humorous levels. To subtly do it is impossible.
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>>84045150
Holy hell, for some reason I got confused and thought it was Eleven who visited the Shadow Proclamation rather than Ten. I feel majorly Berenstain'd. I think I confused them with the Papal Mainframe.

Anyway, while we're on this subject, did the reveal of the Shadow Proclamation being "space police" feel like retcon to anyone else? I could have accepted the Proclamation being space *law*, but I still can't wrap my head around why an organization would be called a "proclamation".
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>>84045273
so you aren't even trying to argue anymore, just memeing.
well, I guess you should watch some more Wedding of River Song. It's characterkino, if I use your favorite term. There are characters, and they talk. Amazing episode.
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>>84045268
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>>84045322
>Remember the well-written one-off characters whom you remember better than some of Moffat's recurring ones

literally not true for any of rtd's one-offs. they were all disgusting chavs. even the aliens acted like chavs
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>>84045273
>moffchad uprising
How old are you? I don't understand this humourless larping or console war showrunner shit.
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>tripfag ruins thread for everyone again

well colour me surprised
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>>84045268
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>>84045373
colour me........................ *puts on sunglasses*

MOFFCHAD!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm tired of trips. I only like one or two trips. At this point I'm convinced that Cats is perfectly all right with both RTD and Moffat and that he's just trying to get attention.

I hate him, and I hate the tranny, and I hate the racist. The old guy can stay, he's all right.
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>>84045373
if you're talking about cats he's the only one keep these fucking threads decent
respect him or the wiki, the threads, everything will die
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>>84045368
how old are you not to understand this? 2? 8? 16? 90?
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You know what is subtle too?
I am Doctor Who said by Missy. It's indeed very smart. Haha, Bill and Nardole are companions, so they are disposals. Get it? Doctor had multiple companions, and some of them left are died = disposed. DISPOSALS!
You know what? It's my friend comic relief? Get it? There's is a term in movie industry meaning a character which brings up most of the comedic elements. And it's Nardole! He's comic relief! And he's called like that in the show itself. It's a meta joke! It's great!
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>>84045450
Okay, so you're about 18? Yikes.
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i win
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>>84045435
>if you're talking about cats he's the only one keep these fucking threads decent
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This will fly under the radar but spoiler alert: Christmas will feature a very brief clip from Daleks Invasion Earth 2150AD to represent "The Dalek Invasion of Earth". The team have negotiated the rights to use a clip, probably of the Dalek saucer and something from the mining part of the movie. No Cushing. After the 50th and Moffat wanting to feature the Cushing movie posters, this was the next best thing. Screencap this.
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>>84045500
H-hey if I p-p-post this face this can't call me a Redditor right guys?

Right?
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>>84045500
it's actually true though
cats has the best sense of humour here and it goes over everyone's heads
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>Mondasian Cybermen!
>Cybermen... from Mondas!
>Mondas, the tenth planet of the solar system as depicted in the 1963 TV series, "Doctor Who"! Which is to say that these Cybermen, Mondasian Cybermen, are not the same as the so-called "Cybus Cybermen" our viewers may remember from Series 2!
>No, never mind the fact that there are only 8 planets in the solar system!
Where can I learn to write subtle dialogue such as this?
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>>84045484
>uh oh. Somebody said this thing I said was subtle wasn't subtle. I look like an idiot now. I better point out something else unrelated that was unsubtle so that it doesn't negate what I said for the past hour.

Whataboutism.
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>>84045519
Not showrunner war-related, post hidden and ignored
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RTDfags have completely taken over this general.
I'm out, fuck this.
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>Excuse me, do you mind not farting while I'm saving the world?

Where can I learn to write subtle dialogue such as this?
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>>84045534
You appear to be reading messages that aren't there
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>>84045558
I'm not even him.
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>>84045332
>subtle: [the plot of my fanfiction]
No, anon, neither of those is inherently subtle or unsubtle. Please stop posting.
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>I am Doctor Who

Where can I learn to write subtle dialogue such as this?
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How long until they make a companion who's a drug addict?

I want to see at least one episode about spooky drugs
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This thread is now ours.
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RTD CHADS VICTORIOUS
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>>84045637
Gridlock was the only drug episode I can think of.
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>>84045637
But Rose loved drugs
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>>84045679
>Warriors' Gate is pretty trippy
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>>84045544
This.
>anon accuses cats of not understanding a parody
>still doesn't grasp that cats is himself a satirical trip even when he starts writing posts like this >>84044525 and talking about killing people in the Moffchad uprising
I mean how dense can you be?
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>>84045637
but rose loved drugs :'(
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Remember when some annoying fuckwit kept posting dialogue from their "rewrite of series 9" because they hated Moffat and people called it clunky? Then Cats pretended to be him, reposted the dialogue and made it more and more clunky every time someone criticised it for that exact reason? That was a /who/ classic desu
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>Spoilers!

Was it subtlekino? You know, this is a subtle reference to a term "spoiler" which is used when someone is spoiling you the plot of the media product.
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>>84045637
You should write a story where there's an alien drug on Earth and that's how the Doctor meets the new companion. He/she would be taking the drug.
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WHICH IS THE ANON WHO BUTTSNIFFS THE MASSACRE

THIS FOR YOU BUDDY

https://twitter.com/Mister__Rhys/status/876492625016233984
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>>84045746
oh thats me. i also buttsniff rare photos so this is a joy to come across. thanks anon
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RTD wins again.
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>Hello Sweetie

Where can I learn to write subtle dialogue such as this? If you use your brain you'll get that 'Hello' is a reference to a english word 'Hello' which actually means 1. (used to express a greeting, answer a telephone, or attract attention.)
2.
(an exclamation of surprise, wonder, elation, etc.)
3.
(used derisively to question the comprehension, intelligence, or common sense of the person being addressed):
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>>84045743
>tardisspotting
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>Guests are reminded that Platform One forbids the use of weapons, teleportation, and religion.

What did RTD mean by this? Wasn't this line a bit Islamophobic?
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/who/ is kill. We should make a new general.
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>>84045793
Love it
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>>84045811
/why/
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>>84045679
fair, i guess

>>84045698
>>84045691
not the actor, the character

>>84045743
-I- should?
I wouldn't get it made, though.
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>>84045811
/moff/
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>Bowties are cool

Where can I learn to write subtle dialogue such as this?
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>>84045827
Because people are disagreeing with me
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>>84045811
/RTD/
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>>84045832
>he doesn't get the rose loved drugs meme
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>>84045852
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>>84045790
>criticizing "hello" for not being subtle enough
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>I'm shaking my booty!

Where can I learn to write subtle dialogue such as this?
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>I don't want Tuggo

Where can I learn to write subtle dialogue such as this? What did he even mean by "Tuggo"? It's so mysterious, there's so many layers.
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>>84045790
Damn, never stopped to think of it like this. It really is like poetry.

How deep does the reddit hole go?
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>>84045916
Oxford University, which RTD was intelligent enough to attend. Unlike some showrunners.
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>>84045679
Nightmare of Eden. Fucking Moffcucks don't know their classic stories.
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>>84045811
/BFW/

For discussion of canon doctor who.
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>>84045365
Elton had more development in Love And Monsters had more development in one episode that Amy had in 3 series.
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>Yowzah!

Where can I learn to write subtle dialogue such as this?
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>DINNERTIME!

This statement is so powerful, where can I learn to write like this?
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Reminder that Moff and RTD are both pretenders to the one true Miles
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>>84045903
>RTDfags will actually use this scene in an anti-Moffat gif instead of trying to ignore the fact that it exists out of sheer embarrassment
KEK
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>>84046028
Triggered
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>>84045995
>this is what it looks like when an RTDfag tries to construct a coherent sentence
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HELLO YOU
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>AMY: Tut. Whack her!
(Rory swings and knocks Mrs Hamill down. They run inside.)

What it subtle-kino? Moffat approved this, so it's gotta be.
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>>84045945
>RTD goes to Oxford and writes Who with council estates, farting aliens and easy to follow plotlines which throw arcs like BAD WOLF BAD WOLF in people's faces
>Moffat goes to Glasgow Uni and writes Who filled with posh cunts and incredibly complicated storylines which require a Masters degree in astrophysics to understand

Pottery, sheer pottery.
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>Apple's rubbish. I hate apples.

Where can I learn to write subtle dialogue such as this?
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>>84046052
I've had a whole year to tune into the psychic network and INTEGRATE WITH ITS MATRICES
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>>84045679
The Daleks

>anti-radiation gloves.... drugs
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>>84046018
Miles is a hack who's too assblasted to write anything anymore.
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>Run.

WCILTWSDSAT?
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I suppose there's some horrible affliction that scars people and explains why the Mondasians are all clothed up, and that their "out of options" solution was to just start putting metal in people until they became recognizable Cybermen.

I wonder if they'll talk like they used to?
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>>84046078
I WILL NOT EAT THE PISSY BISCUIT
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>when 11th Doctor sees Jenny in a sexy outfit his screwdriver gets erected just like penis of male humans is erected

Do you really have to attend Glasgow Uni for that?
>>
Subtlety is overrated.
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>>84046184
No you have to go to the University of Huddersfield to do that
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Moff has some good and RTD has some good but Moff has more bad than RTD. Sorry.

Can we just look at one thing objectively for a second, though? What's with Moffat and girls? Why do girls have to be obsessed with men to be justified as good characters? Amy and River's entire lives were predicated on the Doctor. I'm not saying that I care about having strong female characters but since a lot of people do I've thought about it a lot. So what's his deal with women? He kind of treats them like fuckall.
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>>84046120
pls don't bully Hartnell.
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>>84046252
>magic mavic chen
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>>84046252
No bullying intended. I find his line flubbing to be extremely charming.

I know it wasn't intentionally written as such (at least not originally) but it actually makes him jibe very well with future Doctors who all have their own quirky and/or autistic tics.
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Can we at least just agree that Moffat era doesnt have any dramatic tension because it's literally impossible to have losses or die in it
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>>84046359
>dramatic tension is only achievable if i think someone's going to die
shut up
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>the absolute state of the past 3 threads
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>>84046385
>or have losses
I'm fine with metaphorical death but it's not happening
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william hartnell was born back in the days when people shat in holes and rolled around in the shit and made scones out of the shit because even though the mechanisms for disease spreading were known, everyone was really fucking stupid
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>>84043773
Why don't the BBC do bespoke idents any more. The ones for Tennant's last specials were fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xngjURlIAfQ
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Allons-y!
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>>84046428
What?
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>>84046428
Ha, epic ftw.
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Can we at least agree that Moffat is a waste of skin who deserves to die?????? AT LEAST??????? Come on superior Moffchads at least give me this small small tiny microscopic victory over you
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>>84046428
How old are you? Please just tell us. I'm really curious.
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>>84046446
>hurr durr it was so much better when RTD was in charge
Fuck off fag, this is Moff country
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>>84046428
Epic reverse troll trolling ;)
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Can we at least agree that all tripfags always ruin threads and should kill themselves?
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The best episodes are the spooky ones

Prove me wrong
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>>84046538
Midnight kino
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>>84046510
>Fuck off fag, this is Moff country
By the look of the last few threads, it doesn't seem like it.
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>>84046538
The best episodes are Dalek episodes.
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>>84046538
I will prove you wrong by asserting that the best episodes are the comfy ones

spooky + comfy = guaranteed GOAT
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>>84046538
>getting spook'd by Doctor Who
I'm reporting you for being underage
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>>84046559
Someone did a strawpoll and it was an exact 50-50 split with 32 voters
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>>84046583
This is RTD turf, bud.
>>
Vote if you haven't
Let's settle it once and for all
http://www.strawpoll.me/13217860/r
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>>84046566
>being this wrong

>>84046567
yeh, like silence in the library

>>84046570
calling something spooky doesn't mean i get spooked, mate
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>>84046570
Moffat's terrible writing is enough to spook anyone
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>>84046481
No.
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>tfw I'm excited for Chibnall to blow both RTD and Moffat out of the water just so we can have a decent showruiner for once because honestly, RTD and Moffat both had huge glaring flaws and neither were really that good
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>>84046754
>>84046754
>>84046754
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What if Missy is crying at the end of the episode because she knows that she kills the Doctor as john Simm's master? because she would have lived through it already.
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