/got/ general

The wrong Targ died in AGOT

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>>84008918
Not so fast

>>84008918
Why will Dany name both her children Rhaego?

>>84008918
Viserys Did Nothing Wrong

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Roose Bolton's Morton's Fork

Roose Bolton is faced with a doozy of a dangerous one during the siege.

If Roose lets everybody stay as they are, they'll fragment even further into murderous factions and weaken the siege from within by picking each other off: Game Over.

If he sends the most dangerous out into the snow, they may side with Stannis or die: Game Over.

Either he's left with too few to defend the walls, or Stannis gains more numbers quite directly. If he keeps the worst with him and puts them on lockdown, his whole army can't be an effective defensive force against Stannis and the troublemakers may still try killing him and others: Game Over.

If he sends a mix of supporters and dangerous tools outside to fake surrender to Stannis, they may achieve something — or, more likely, get caught thanks to teeth-clenched teamwork not working: Game Over.

If he's found a way out of this by picking the snowdrifts and being creative with who he sent outside, it'll be fun to see.

All in all, general winter has not been kind to either him or Stannis by arriving when he did.

>>84009006
I hope Dany and Jon's son is named Drogo II

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>>84008918
He sure has changed.

>>84008918
Don't worry, his namesake will avenge him when he turns in season 7, episode 8 thru season 8.

What happened to all the giants?

>>84009444
Why did Rhaegar name is brother and son Viserys?

>>84009333
Ebin trips :D

>>84009535
Because it was better than naming two sons Aegon.

>>84009455
>What happened to all the giants?

In Essos

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Where did the first humans of the planet of westeros come from?

>>84009333
>>84009444
One after the other-must be that some magic has occurred. Viserion turns from regular dragon to ice dragon and Viserys will be avenged.

>>84009757
All humans came from Essos

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Cast her

>>84009757
Africa you dumb shitlord. The true nation of Kings.

>>84009535
>Rhaegar named his own brother

???

>>84009870
Lady Stoneheart

>>84009870
Hot Pie's westeros' version of a sous chef. She won't let him forget about the gravy.

>>84009535
Why did Rhaella name Rhaegar's daughter Daenerys?

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CANON
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>>84010191
I don't know who's butthurt I'll enjoy more.

Tumblr's because jonsa's been denied and their NOTP is happening.

Or George because the show has once again surpassed his books

>>84009870
Some bitch that dies.
Perky tits.

Sansan is endgame and OTP.

>>84010413
she's a one trick pony?

>>84010044
why did rhaegar name himself aegon?

why did euron's mother name her son daario?

why did daenerys daughter name her grandmother Jon?

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Season 7 Premieres in
29 Days 04 Hours 21 Minutes

Why do shitposters exist?

why are people who aren't shitposters posting on 4chan?

>>84010571
So 9 days or 15 for final trailer?

>>84010623
last year last trailer was like a week before premire i think.

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the best night king

>>84009271
>Dany and Jon's son
>fucking your own aunt

>>84011443
They don't know that

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>>84009271
>I hope Dany and Jon's son is named Drogo II

what is west of westeros???

>>84011443
There's literally nothing wrong with avunculate marriage in Westeros

The conflict will be that Dany will want him to assume the throne with her and he'll want to stay North as a Snow.

Ending with Dany dying and Jon taking the throne anyway cause he can't stand by and let Westeros fall apart after he united them against a common foe.

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>>84011633
Weasteros

>>84009535
viserys isn't rhaegar's kid. daenerys is rhaegar's kid.

>>84009271
Only if she marries him too later on.

>>84011633
essos
breaking news, most planets are spherical.

>>84011808
viserys is daenerys' son tho

>>84011633
Westerwos

>>84011904
What the fuck, no he wasn't. He was her older brother

>>84009271
will Dany even feel Jon's unworthy pecker after having been fucked by Drogo? Will she take a real man for paramour and Jon will only be her pussylicker, with the skills he learned with ygritte?

>>84011937
someone can't read subtext
guess they left that part out of the wikis

>>84009757
The unknow regio or the dark continent

why did lord H'ghar called his son Jaqen?

but who will defeat the lich king?

>>84011956
Jonerys is love not sex only so no she won't take paramour

>>84012173
and who will kill the night king?

>>84012154
Friendly reminder that S6 Jaqen H'ghar is the same Jaqen from S2.

>>84012173
bran will do some magic bullshit

Which ASOIAF character do you look like most?

>>84010329
I don't remember Perky tits in the books. Was she in Westeros or Essos?

>>84012297
Book Jorah, just not as old.

>>84008918
Stannisposter
Jonposter
Jaqenposter
Danyposter
Bericposter
Branposter
Jaimeposter


Stannisking/stannisbro/stannisdude
Jonboy/jonsa/jonerys/jonman/
Jaqenfriend/jaqenbro/jaqendude/jaqenboy
Bericbro/bericboy/bericman/bericderic/berifriend
Jaimedude/jaimefriend/jaimehero/jaimeking

>>84012389
jaqensperg, jaqentard, jaqenrapist

>>84012389
Understandable, have a great day

>>84011956
If you get wrecked by that Dothraki dick at like 13 your gonna be a size queen for the rest of your life. Jon would feel like a dull finger nail scratching an itch very close to the opening after getting rode rough on a nightly basis by the biggest strongest horse lord.

>>84011904
her son by rhaegar?

>>84012502
no, by viserys
to keep the bloodline pure

>>84012428
Retard-autist-faggot-hater-anti-edgy-stupid-imbred-butthurt-neckbeard

>>84012772
is that what jaqen whispers in his victim's ears during the rape?

>>84012173
Stannis

>>84011956
>>84012481
This is what I've been trying to talk about for awhile and no one wants to discuss it. Not even that she had horse lord cock so she needs big, but Jon is extra small and D&D said so that it wasn't just a joke.

You can also bet Darrio was pretty hung too so that even more wear and tear she got. Jon will never satisfy her.

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>>84011956
>>84012189
>>84012481
>>84013019
What does /got/ mean by these posts?

>>84013019
And what about Jorah's tongue and his bear dick?

>>84011956
>>84012481
>>84013019
This sounds awfully like /pol/ tv right now, just missing the BLACKED

why does 4chan hates reddit so so so much?

>>84013224
why does reddit hates 4chan so so so so much?

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Why wouldn't he finish his kino?

>>84011991
kek

>>84012297
Balon Swann
best kingsguard

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>>84013200
>/pol/ tv
What did Reddit mean by this?

>>84013398
For maximum shill

>>84012361
well she wasn't in the books so...

>>84012361
she wasn't in the books. she replaces jeyne westerling.

>>84013224
because they're plebs who think they're not plebs.

facebook normies like daenerys and reddit laugh at them "Hah! Look at them liking the pleb meme plot armored character, we know better at reddit, we like Jon Snow!"

Same reason we hate 9gag. pleb normies who think they're hardcore badasses.

>>84013019
>implying length is the only important stat

It's summer and we still don't know about the release date of TWOW & ADOS.

Is GRRM planning to die before he finish and release the last 2 books?

>>84012201
Bran
>>84012297
Also bran

>>84014736
>Is GRRM planning to die before he finish and release the last 2 books?
Yeah he's banking on it. That's why he stopped writing. He said he would leave it to the Jews.

>>84014736
I remember someone on plebbit said they asked a psychic about this and she said after grrm experiences a health scare he will finally get it done. Kek. It will never happen. The health scare definitely can but a dream of spring will be a dream and twow will only have three chapters-mostly stuff cut off from the last book.

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>>84014796
>mfw GRRM is indeed planning to die and leaving asoiaf unfinished
>we will never read the ending of asoiaf and we will never get closure of the series
>all our time we spend on the books is in vain
Does GRRM really hates his own fans?

>>84008918
daily reminder the show will end with jon as the king
stannis is the rightful king

>>84014952
>Does GRRM really hates his own fans
Without a doubt

>>84014978
>stannis is the rightful king

nope,stannis lost ALL his credibility when he used black magic to kill his fag brother.

>>84014952
>>84015064
He doesn't hate his Wild Cards fans I can tell you that much

>>84015285
By that logic Aegon had no credibility by using dragons

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Why did frikidoctor go on twitter and ask isaac if it's true he leaked jon's name? Why can't hispanics read?

>>84015397
>Why can't hispanics read?
because they don't rape with books

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>>84015285
>killed a faggot
>hustled a she-male to not kill him
>no cred

>>84015285
>implying there is something wrong with using magic to achieve you're goals
Yeah, no

>>84015285
I thought he didn't know about that

>>84016408
Not that anon but I think he only didn't know in the moment, him wanting Davos to take Melly into the castle after Penrose tells him to fuck off shows he definitely knew and is okay with it so long as he wins

>>84016408
Yeah, that's what I thought
It seemed like he didn't know until after and thought it was just a nightmare

>>84016493
I thought the intention was to kill penrose but the magic walls fucked it up or something

>>84015456
>kinslaying
>right

A curse on you and Stannis

>>84016525
Yeah, wanted to kill him using magic shadow baby which the walls blocked.

Aemon & Daenerys Targaryen

>>84016408
He didn't. His involvement comes to realisation in ASoS when the nightmares aren't stopping.

>>84016535
>kinslaying
>while that faggot Renly was planning to do the same to his brother and rightful king, Renly got what he deserved
>believing there is something wrong with kinslaying
You and Renly can go fuck yourselves in the asses.

>>84012481
That's not how vaginas work, virgin.

>>84016535
>being a renlyfag

Read this:
http://towerofthehand.com/blog/2013/06/17-hollow-crowns-deadly-thrones/index.html

How would one kill Euron Greyjoy?

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*happens*

>>84017007
>implying I'm a renlyfag

I'm just against kinslaying, unless it involves killing Sansa

>>84017215
If GRRM was still writing I wonder how he would write their interaction compared to D&D

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who are some characters that men will literally NEVER understand?

>>84017775
no character
especially not Sansa, a character which only think you have to understand is that she's clinically retarded.

Eddard should've killed her and kept Lady.

Would Lannister be the best house to be born into?

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>>84017675
>If GRRM was still writing

I am though.

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Cast her /got/.

Does Essos have its own equivalent to The Children of the Forest? Don't tell me it's the fucking Warlocks. I've always considered the Psoriasis Soldiers that continent's equivalent to Wights/Others, etc.

>>84017963
Catelyn Tully

>>84018004
The Ifequevron, aka the Children of the Forest.

>>84018110

>TCOTF came from Essos and Wirewood trees too

So that explains why there is one in the House of Black and White that Arya sees in one of her chapters in Dance. The question is now what propelled them to go north?

>>84015397
A better question is why is frikidoctor A. concered about whether or not that "leak" got out, and B. concered about whether or not it was isaac who leaked it? why does he care? is spoiling info suddenly against his moral code?

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>>84017963
Mommy

>>84018027
tits too big

>>84017963
Bessie

>>84018166
They were in the northernmost point of Essos in the first place.
Perhaps they already had settlements beyond the Grey Waste, so far in the far east that they reached Westeros.

>>84018326
no such thing

>>84018166
Whatever it is privacy is probably a part of it. Of all the places weirwoods would grow, the Haunted Forest and the TKotI would be the least trafficked by humans. THF is massive enough for them to be missed by any wildling and Essosi forest creeps out the dothraki.

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>>84008918
Tfw we will never get scenes like this again. I miss Drogo and good actors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyqKWROjrq4

>>84009128
He did everything wrong when it came to abusing Dany, especially in the show. Just stop this. Plus, he should have known better than to trust Jorah and act like A douche in front of Khal. Literally would make the worst king. Almost as dumb as Joffrey.

>>84015285
>His brother
>Not his daughter
Unless you are specifically not talking about fan fiction(a.k.a the series).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9APAHhIPhJE&feature=share
Down DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN

>>84018373
underrated post. kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEB5t1qRdmY

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Captain Maario Naharis

What if the giants were how everyone looked on whatever the fuck you call the planet they live on in ASOIAF and after whatever knocked the planet off its axis to fuck with the weather it also effected the rate that humans grow, seasons changing along with several other factors also messed up the genetics as the decades grow and it could explain why average looking humans look the way they do compared to giants. Giants weren't fit to live on the earth anymore unless they were a halfbreed like Hodor.

>>84019078
>good acting and solid writing on game of thrones
been a long time

Pre-War of the Five Kings how would you rate each Great House in terms of wealth?

Besides the Lannisters and Tyrells being first and second.

I'd say the poorest two are probably Greyjoy and Baratheon.

>>84019140
could be why every second man grrm describes is 6'5+

Reminder the Neck had tunnels connecting Westeros and Essos and that's why the children destroyed them in case the Dothraki discovered them. They witnessed something with the sea magically which is what they passed down throughout generations so their ancestors would fear it.

>>84019259
Why was Bobby B' actor so based?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6GW03WsFgU

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>>84012297
Sam

>>84019272
logically it should be something like tully>arryn>martell/stark>greyjoy
not sure where i'd put baratheon due to having 3 branches and shit

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>>84011777

>>84019470
we see you george

>>84011956
>>84012481
>>84013019
1. Aren't the Dothraki technically the equivalent of Mongols on the steppes? So wouldn't Khal be more like to be Asian. Not saying that all Asians are small but it also doesn't necessarily mean he must have big benis.
2.>>84016951
this. The vagina is full of muscle that stretches then recoils. By your logic, once a woman gives birth there is a big gaping whole left in he vaginal canal. Idiot.

>>84019634
Honey you don't know what your talking about. The more sex you have the more babies you have it's bigger than it was before. Trust me boo boo. I wish it wasn't so but a women who had been banging out big dick swinging Drogo and Daario is going to be wider then she was on her wedding night. Thems just facts.

Kegal exercise wouldn't be a thing or vaginoplasty if the pussy snapped back on its own. Someone who is just taking 9 inches nightly is going to be stretched out. My great grandma used to say you gotta oil it nightly and do your exercises to keep tight.

>>84020126
You know nothing, virgin.

>>84020126
Dude I actually study anatomy unlike you. Sure it's an indicator if the woman is constantly sexually active or pumping out babies ,but if a woman were to have lots of sex at one point, then stop having any sex for up to a year, it would recoil considerably. Do not talk about things you know nothing of, anon. Obviously, when it comes to giving birth we are talking about a bit longer, say 3 years. The change in size you speak of is exaggerated and short lived regardless.

As for kegels, considering all women know about this technique, how can you even assume any of the things you just said now?
The tightest woman could easily have had 60 partners and you would never know if she does kegals.

>honey
really? Are you some type of fag?
Also, I love how you ignored my first point. How do you know Drogo is hung considering his background?

Women don't get stretched permanently that's something angry virgins and bitter cucks made up to convince themselves Stacy was getting punished somehow for fucking round so much. Go long enough without sex and it goes back to normal.

>try to have a discussion with my father about Game of Thrones
>he comments about how Sansa is a master strategist and could possibly, in the future, be the best in the world because she told Jon that Ramsey would try to hurt him emotionally or trap him or some shit
>tell him that telling Jon her experiences with Ramsey and asking for the Vale to come save them if shit goes down doesn't take a strategic mind
>comments about how Dany is a great character even though she's the most boring cunt in the show and makes everyone around her boring too
>calls me over critical
>really badly wants to call me a sexist, I can tell by the look in his eyes
I mean I shouldn't have expected much from a far left liberal but man.

>>84020817
your father is a wise man. you should look up to him anon.

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>>84020817
did your dad make this?

Kek, Jaehaerys was just confirmed to just be based on that reddit lip reader's theory.

lads deniers BTFO

>>84020817
Thank god the only stronk wymin character my father likes is Arya.
He agrees with me that Dany is a boring shit.

>>84021052
Confirmed by who?
I need that Mexican to apologize to isaac

>>84019272
In terms of actual wealth (liquid and in kind) the houses from richest to poorest are:
1) Tyrell
2) Lannister
3) Arryn
4) Stark
5) Tully
6) Martell
7) Baratheon
8) Greyjoy

Lannister wealth is focused on gold so on purely those terms yes they have more, but the Tyrells have a larger tax base and natural resources to draw incomes from.

>>84008918
So what events will also occur in the books?

>Hold the door
>Wildfire at the Sept of Baelor
>Death of Stannis

>>84021211
I don't think Baratheons would be that poor.

>>84020817
>he comments about how Sansa is a master strategist and could possibly, in the future, be the best in the world

I'll take "Things that never happened" for $200.
If I'm wrong, I feel really sorry for you

>>84021211
>larger tax base and natural resources to draw incomes from.
why is stark and arryn > tully on your list then? shouldn't they have more people?

>>84021239
Their lands are small, lack cities, thinly populated and not known for producing anything of note.

>>84021108
do you think he masturbates to her?

>>84021265
Tullys suffer from a lack of infrastructure development, no city charters, and divisive bannermen that likely keeps the Tullys from getting as much as they should. Just like how they should field large armies but don't.

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>>84021311
fair enough
as usual, tully is suffering

>>84021332
Under a strong lord paramount (or king) is rate the riverlands as having the potential to be third place for certain.

>>84021383
so what you're telling me is that radmure is going to restore his house to greatness?

>>84021211
>martell wealthier than Baratheon
not a chance in hell.
>>84021277
Dorne is a fucking desert tho.

It's almost certainly like :
Tyrell
Lannister
Arryn
Tully
Baratheon
Stark
Martell
Greyjoy

Arryn are higher than they should be (population wise) because LF is great at the whole counting copper stuff.

And Tully are ruled in name by a dying man, and in truth by Edmure who isn't all that serious.

Baratheon naturally follows, then 2 deserts (cold one and hot one), then the WEDONOTSOW tards.


More about Baratheon : Stannis could muster 5k with just Dragonstone, AND some of the lords sworn to him actually went with Renly anyway. Dorne (ALL of dorne, not just the martell) can field 15k.

The original question was about houses wealth. House Baratheon has dragonstorm and storm's end, they probably have 3-4 times more men than house Martell (not than all of Dorne, but that wasn't the question). And usually, how man y men you can field is quite close to a correlation to how wealthy you are, with exceptions like the Arryn because they ahve LF, etc..

>>84021460
>who isn't all that serious.
untrue.

>>84020348
>The change in size you speak of is exaggerated and short lived regardless.
It's not like she is going to forget how good a big dick feels

>How do you know Drogo is hung considering his background?
The actor has Asian blood so he's definitely small

>>84020817
Are you sure he is really your dad and not just your mom's husband?

>>84021555
I didn't say he had to be small, I'm just saying that it's difficult to just assume he is super big beyond all doubt because of his background as a Mongolian, As for his actor, isn't he Samoan like the Rock?

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What did she mean by this? Was it 2deep4u bullshit like sending a message to god?

>>84021506
>tfw anti-tully-bully defense force caught me

But it's not just Edmure... it's a lot of things. It's Hoster, and Edmure, and the Frey who are probably a pain in the ass (lie on their numbers, or just don't pay, etc.. ) Harrenhal is whatever, probably cost more to keep it standing than whatever it earns for house Whent, and so on.

>>84021724
>still a tyrell grandma, not a religious nutjob
it was obvious enough. this is the reason why all shows have way too much exposition

>>84021724
i think it just meant that Margaery still valued her house over the faith and that she was just lying in regards to all the faith bullshit

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>>84021724
it's a mystery to me

>>84021109
The Empire Magazine's editor

https://twitter.com/DanJolin/status/876229128181231616

>>84021726
it's just a bunch of shitty bannermen
not much they can feasibly do about it unless they had a lot of time, a lot of stability, a lot of money and a lot of allies

>>84021460
Utterly wrong. Dorne actually makes things and exports things: horses, silks, olives, exotic fruit, etc. The stormlands don't.
The Starks have a vast territory that includes silver mines, lumber, and a larger tax base than the Baratheons. They also have an actual city that conducts trade with Essos.

You don't really understand anything about the respective kingdoms.

>>84021926
then why dont they make a public statement about it instead of just a reply to some nobody on twitter that barely anyone is going to see? I guess they actually like the fact that people are misreading their retarded clickbait? fucking dumbasses at empire magazine

>>84022059
yeah the stormlands have pretty much no useful unique resources

>>84022431
They're not dumbasses if it's on purpose, clickbait gets clicks which equal money.

If people buy the print because of things they can learn in the magazine, that means more money.

>>84022059
And you don't understand anything about wealth distribution.

>The Starks have a vast territory
which means wealth is spread around more, not that there is more of it for a single individual (or the ruler).

By your "analysis" you'd come to the conclusion that Canada is much wealthier than the UK, due to its vast territory, which include lots of mines, oil, forests, etc...
But it's actually less. And even worse if you count by region (any region).

Canada:earth is very similar to North:Westeros.
Population wise, climate wise, and almost certainly wealth wise.

Just because it's huge doesn't mean it's rich. Sure there's 3 billions acres of forest, but 99.99% of them aren't being used because no one lives there. There might be 100 times less in the stormlands but they're ALL being used & sold, which brings more wealth overall than whatever little lumber the north can get with a small, extremely sparse population.

Richest to poorest:
>Lannister
>Tyrell
>Tully
>Arryn
>Baratheon
>Martell
>Stark
>Greyjoy

>wood is as expensive as gold in Braavos
>North has a port city right fucking there
>and lots of forests
>Night's Watch even hacks wood from the Haunted Forest to keep it away from the Wall
>they haven't capitalized on this

lol wot?

>>84023367
they're not the smartest race of people
>That's a Brandon, the tall one with the dreamy face, he was Brandon the Shipwright, because he loved the sea. His tomb is empty. He tried to sail west across the Sunset Sea and was never seen again. His son was Brandon the Burner, because he put the torch to all his father's ships in grief.

>>84023354
They Greyjoys are "poor" because the don't tax their citizens in the Iron islands, the true land of the free, Euron is the rightful king

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>>84023453
>tfw greyjoys are /ancap/

>>84023367
Braavos has exclusive commerce ties with certain regions in Essos, they can't freely import wood from the cheapest seller, the deal Jon made with the Iron bank in ADWD is a private deal with a private entity

>>84023434
They're not terribly inventive with the name are they?

>all his father's ships in grief.

This is so weird to me when it also says after that the North never had strength at sea even hundreds of years later, who gives a shit if one King was a retard? Why didn't the future ones get a navy, why didn't the other Houses that live near the coast build their own big ships for more than just shipping? Do hey need a divine mandate or something?

I mean you have Ironshits who keep on attacking the Riverlands during those years, why not have something for when they set sights on the North? Or for when you want to conquer the Isles or somewhere else?

>>84023632
>They're not terribly inventive with the name are they?
because all the brandons are bran
>why not have something for when they set sights on the North?
only balon was retarded enough to think the north was a good target

>>84023725
>because all the brandons are bran

I mean like this Brandon likes ships, hey, Brandon the Shipwright.

This Brandon burned ships, I know, Brandon the Burner

>>84023725
>>84023763
Forgot to respond

>only balon was retarded enough to think the north was a good target

Ironshits are fucking ironshits, you think they'd care eventually?

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>>84023763
well, they're a simple people

>>84023725
>only balon was retarded enough to think the north was a good target
Wrong, Theon Stark fought off a ton of Ironborn shits in his time, and the warrior-woman culture on Bear Island developed as a result of constant Ironborn raiding

>>84023354
the starks arent that poor, its just the show that portrays them as if they live in a pigpen and bathe in dirt

>>84023925
Ned was fucking shit.

>bringing a fucking Sept into his home
>raising his kids in the Seven
>"muh honor" taught to him by a fucking Southerner

Fucking shit.

Brandon had better learn from real Starks using greenseer powers and fuck Alys or Jon had better get real fucking wolfblooded or the Starks are fucking dead

>>84023979
huh I thought that was wildling raiders

>>84023995
bran is NOT a seven worshipping fucking shit

>>84023997
Nope, there's tension between Asha and the Mormont woman in Stannis's army because of the historic Mormont/Ironborn feud

>>84024021
>wanted to be a knight and join the kingsguard

Sure as fuck sounds like he wanted to be Southern shit and looked up to it

>>84023995
>>bringing a fucking Sept into his home
nothing wrong with being accommodating

>>84024133
>implying that's not why the Others woke up

>>84024110
hed didnt care about their religion he just wanted to ride horses and wear cool armor

>>84023536
Wrong, the Greyjoys do no abide by the non aggression principle

>>84024021
thats like saying Christ is a muslim

inshallah

>>84024247
Wildlings are more accurate if it wasn't for them raiding the North

>>84023995
>>raising his kids in the Seven
that was just cat and sansa (and they probably tried with arya), which is beneficial

>>84024176
lol sure m8.

That kid better get it right, fuck Alys and make all his kids fuck a Karstark to breed out that disgusting Tully look of his or else

>>84024416
>tfw he fucks sansa instead to perpetuate superior tully aesthetic

Curious, what are some fan theories that got debunked with the release of a new book? Like was there a theory that was widely accepted before A Dance With Dragons came out and deconfirmed it?

>>84024444
Nice quads and while this does satisfy my incest kink and slightly my straight /ss/ kink since Sansa looks like Catelyn, no, Tully genes make you retarded, symptoms include auburn hair and blue eyes.

Have to breed it out as much as possible.

>>84024493
a fan theory that got debunked was that affc was a fluke and grrm actually can write a decent book, adwd proved everyone wrong

>>84024646
>Tully genes make you retarded
>implying stark genes are any better

>>84024646
>straight /ss/
Straight straight shota?

>>84024680
I think AFFC is the best written, but even if we say it wasn't do you actually not like the first three books?

>>84024712
Make you retarded in a different but better way to be honest.

Stark retardness made them kings of all the North, beating greenseer and child fucking shits

Tully retardedness never made them kings until they just sided with Aegon, and now they've almost killed their own house and the houses of their loved ones.

>>84024713
Yes, just to make sure there's no faggot undertones.

>>84024773
second book is kind of meh in some places, but 1 and 3 are good.

affc is a well writing boring pile of shit

>>84024493
A lot of people thought Dany was going to marry Robb until ASOS

>>84012297
Renly

>>84012297
ygritte

>>84024971
Very exciting

>>84024857
>Stark retardness made them kings of all the North, beating greenseer and child fucking shits
no, stark retardedness made them ride into the middle of KL and tell the insane king that the crown prince needs to die
tully genes are a blessing in comparison

Modern day Isaac Hempstead Wright

>>84025044
>no, stark retardedness made them ride into the middle of KL and tell the insane king that the crown prince needs to die

Motherfucker, you stole my anti-lyanna triggering argument.

>tully genes are a blessing in comparison

Nah, Tully genes whether by the individual or another one carrying them fucked over Robb, Robert, Ned, the Arryns, the Starks, the Tullys, all of Westeros to be honest and keeps bleeding it.

so now that we know the timeline is a loop, do you think they'll do the obvious thing and have bran be the cause of aerys madness?

i hate how they had to make it a timeloop. bran can potentially be the cause of fucking everything

>>84024646
bransa will never be as good as branelyn

>>84025205
>implying its not also a time loop in the books

motherfucker the hodor thing was heavily foreshadowed in a passage from acok when bran and co. are trapped in the crypts and bran asks hodor to push the door open and as he does it he's repeatedly screaming HODOR HODOR HODOR HODOR HODOR

>>84025233
>Catelyn had to settle for Ned instead of getting deep dicked by Chad thundercock

What might this mean for Bran and bransa?

>"Lauren Mayberry of CHVRCHES may play Lyanna Stark in Game of Thrones."[1]
>Mayberry is rumored to have shot a scene with a fellow dutch singer who is assumed to be Rhaegar Targaryen, the scene has the both of them singing." [2]
>The scene is dubbed as "The Duet". [3]

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>>84025308
Didn't D&D also confirm "HOLD THE DOOR" is what "Hodor" means in the books?

>>84024335
>implying the wall doesn't violate the NAP

>p.9

>>84027658
the curse of amerifat off-hours

so is george planning to keep bran in the tree for the rest of time or what?

>>84011876
Just like how Columbus reached India when he sailed west from Europe.

Or how a valerian dragon rider spent years exploring Sothroyos and never made it to the edge. Or how we know there is another continent southeast of Asshai.

Go ask the Summer Islanders, they have carracks and have mapped everything apparently.

>>84012297
Been a while since I read the books, but I remember jaimes chapters being pretty suave

>>84029396
nothing more suave than using babies as trebuchet ammunition desu

>>84019634
Actually further east there is a true mongol people, though they have cone heads and ride zorses (zebras)

Dothraki are more Conan the barbarian on horseback. Though I'm the book they do have almond shaped eyes (Asian), and both make tons of references to horse archery, though we never fucking see it

>>84021211
Lannisters are fucking broke. They may not have a great tax base, but Dorne and the vale haven't been ravaged by war.

I don't think the north or the Riverlands even rates the way they have been shattered and occupied.

I say:
Tyrell
Arryn
Martell
Lannister
Baratheon
Greyjoy
Stark
Tully

Greyjoy might be higher if we start counting Euron. His Valyrian Steel armor is worth "a kingdom", not to mention all his other Valyrian swag.

>>84029528
original question was pre-war
tully/stark/arguably baratheon don't even exist as houses as of adwd

>>84029613
Current is more interesting with Euron and everything

>>84029659
in which case I don't see how baratheon > greyjoy at all
stannis doesn't even have a castle

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>>84029613
>arguably baratheon don't even exist as houses as of adwd
argued by whom?

>>84029765
I guess because Dragonstone isn't his anymore and all he really has is a wandering army and a bit of support

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>>84029788
>all he really has is a wandering army
and the nightfort but i can see why people don't count that as a castle (yet)
>and a bit of support
his plans are possibly intertwined with a fuckhughe conspiracy between multiple prominent northern houses. that gotta count for more then "a bit of support"

>>84029916
>his plans are possibly intertwined with a fuckhughe conspiracy between multiple prominent northern houses
the scale of the conspiracy doesn't mean it gives him more direct support
I wouldn't trust that fat eel-eating fucker either

>>84024971
Do live in LONDON by any chance?

>>84029680
The Mannis just got all those iron bank loans. Also, I was considering tax base of their home region, and the stormlands are kind of spent but they are untouched by war. (Though Aegon is fixing that)

>>84020817
Why can't retards ever spell Ramsay right?

>>84030257
>considering tax base of their home region
which they don't own at all?

>>84011633
Westeresteros

>>84030064
>the scale of the conspiracy doesn't mean it gives him more direct support
well seeing as it is a conspiracy direct support would just ruin the whole thing. still is a trap waiting to be sprung.
>I wouldn't trust that fat eel-eating fucker either
not trusting a fat, plotting merchant-lord? preposterous! but kidding aside, stannis is one of the least trusting people in westeros. the only personality trait of his that eclipse his trustlessness is his contempt for people like manderly that lie and scheme behind your back while smiling to your face.
he knows what kind of people he's dealing with. just because he is desperate doesn't mean he has left his mind behind at the wall.

>>84030291
Yeah, I think I came up with that convoluted reasoning because current timeline Tully and Stark are basically landless at this point.

Even if you want to discount that, Greyjoy vs Stannis basically comes down to Eurons wealth vs Stannis' loans when you are talking about liquid assets.

>>84030430
I guess you could loosely count the BwB as tully/stark support

>>84029528
>Lannisters are fucking broke.
What?

>>84017963
Ros

>>84030589
wars cost a lot, they have to bankroll the massively indebted crown and some annoying little twat fucked their lands up

>>84025719
It's incredible how she looks 15 despite being like 30

>>84030646
>>84030589
And there's that whole gold mines running dry thing, too.

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>tfw varys shaves his head because he has silver hair just lie egg

>>84023289
You dumb shit, the UK trades. It has port cities. Even your most basic attempt at a comparison or retort fails.

>>84031101
I don't want varys/aegon to be blackfyres just because I want aegon to be real to trigger jonfags
I am a petty creature

>>84031569
we already know the aegon plot fails because he's been written out of the show

>>84031603
not necessarily; D&D have done some pretty extreme character merges already

>>84023289
Damn you're an idiot. Or do you just really have no experience with feudal incomes and tax systems?

>>84018027
only choice that makes sense

>>84025190
>Tully genes whether by the individual or another one carrying them fucked over Robb, Robert, Ned, the Arryns, the Starks, the Tullys, all of Westeros to be honest and keeps bleeding it.
You can apply that to just about anything. Take lannicest shits out of the equation and everything is fine. Same with baelish, varys, autistic targs, etc. etc.
categorizing everything that went wrong as going wrong just because of tullys just because of whatever role they had in it is unfair bullying.

>>84012297
Meera Reed

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>>84009271
i can see it happening

Which PoV will the Dany x Jon sex scene be through? If it's through Dany, we'll get to hear a description of Jon's dick; she's done it for Drogo and Daario.

>>84033981
>Which PoV will the Dany x Jon sex scene be through?
jorah

>>84033991
This is all I've ever wanted.

>>84033991
"Jorah felt his mound quiver. His manhood parted the pelt-like hairs, so similar to the sigil of his House. Tears glistened down his beard as he forced a hand into his breeches."

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>>84033991
i can see it.

>>84009003
gilly reading about azor ahai

>>84034055
bonus points for jon wielding longclaw during the sex

>>84018869
he only wanted what was promised.

>>84032957
breera fucking when already

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>only 4 weeks left

>>84035377
oh god please no not again

>>84020817
Your father is a cool dude

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was I right, anons?

>>84035480
i don't remember if the leaks say anything about that
I can see a token victory for euron though, surely not even the crayola men would introduce him to achieve literally nothing

>>84034072
why do I find this webm so damn hilarious

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what did he mean by this

>>84035568
nothing funnier than getting cucked

>>84035605
>fertility -5000%
>tfw preston was right again and the others are in desperate need of new genetic material

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>>84035384
Yoo noow nuffins, anun.

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lol

>>84035756
>>84035727
>>84035703
>>84035674
>>84035377
Fucking hell how many levels of forced meme is this? 2?

>>84035377
Hello again long time no see pal

>>84035568
because you find it relate-able

>>84008918
most fuckable pussy to be sure.

>>84035787
this one made me laugh for some retarded reason

>>84035852
>retarded
yes

>>84035936
this one is an improvement.

>>84034072
Poor Maisie...

>>84014952
It was his plan all along. The madman

>>84012297
A chunky Jaime Lannister

new thread when

>>84035793
Don't have an autism attack anon. It has been over a month since I last posted these.

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>>84035514
you underestimate their power

>>84035605
>(((maesters)))
Literally no one should be surprised by this. They've been trying to get rid of dragons for years. Not to mention that Barbray "Maester Massacre" Dustin did warn us.

new thread quite literally fucking when already

>>84030693
>tfw I didn't know who that was because I live under a rock
>google her
>think EXACTLY the same thing you posted, down to the numbers
>tfw you're me

>>84024971
h-hey girl

>>84031743
precisely, feudal income/tax come from workers (in the field, in the mines, etc...).

The north has a lot of ressources but doesn't have the population to farm them, hence, getting nothing from them.

Doesn't mean shit that the wolfswood is worth more than everything Dorne has to offer, unless they actually cut it down to sell it.

>>84035514
Token victory = Euron killing Yara, Ellaria and the Sand Snakes.

No one will care; sets him up as a threat, perfect neat little writing package.

>>84037414
He doesn't kill Yara though, he takes her as his captive to set up Theon rescuing her and sacrificing his life next season in a redemption story.

>>84037504
>Theon
>killing himself
>GRRM's chewtoy
>killing himself

No, Theon's gonna die an old man with a belly full of wine and a girl's mouth around his gash.

>>84037584
New thread

>>84037583
>GURM
>relevant to what happens in D&D's story
Six years. You had six years to learn that the books, their themes, and GRRM's style are irrelevant to D&D and you still didn't.