>It's a comfy Lord of the Rings thread

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So why exactly didn't they take the eagles to mordor? No one has ever been able to explain this.

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>>83989577

The eagles didn't want to

>>83989411
Why is Christopher Tolkien so stupid? Why does he hate everything Peter Jackson made? Peter Jackson may have made a few minor mistakes but Christopher's opinion is ridicc.

>>83989645
>Peter Jackson may have made a few minor mistakes

Yeah nah

>>83989577
it literally wasnt their problem.
Also why the fuck would you fly into Mordor willingly? The entire god damn point behind how fucking miraculous it is that Frodo survived is because prancing right into Mordor was insanity.
The whole reason that the fellowship went about it that way is because destroying the ring without Sauron ever knowing its whereabouts was the only way they could succeed. A bunch eagles flying straight towards Mordor isnt exactly subtle and im sure if Sauron saw it coming, which he most assuredly would if thats the plan the fellowship went with, the eagles would have been massacred on arrival.

eagles are a lazy deus ex machina plot device
this is irrefutable

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>>83989645

He didn't like the tone of the movies, maybe TTT and RoTK most of all.

>>83989645
i personally undertstand to a certain extent why he doesnt like the LOTR films, and i pretty much totally agree with why he hates the hobbit films.
But personally, the peter Jackson LOTR trilogy is genuinely fantastic even if it takes some liberties with the truly perfect book series.

>>83989577
Eagles would get seduced by the ring

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>ywm be a hobbit

>>83989577
>Be eagles

>Agree to take Frodo to Mt Doom

>Almost there

>Oh shit I want this ring

>Drop Frodo from 1000 feet in the air

>Keep ring

hmmm

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>>83989734

>deus ex machina plot device

Care to explain why?

>>83989577
as others have seemingly stated. The Eagles were Lazy Fuckwads that couldn't be bothered to do something unless they
>Owe a debt
>realize they might die if they do nothing

>>83989411
testing

>bracing for the comfy desu

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>>83989411
So... about the tax situation.

>>83989931
Homer never explained Troys tax plan either

>>83989798
Because they're practically un-established plot tools that teleport out of nowhere to rescue the heros at the most convenient times just because

>>83989966
>Trojan war was really started because Helen of Troy was taking Agamemnons capital to Troy where it would have been in a higher tax bracket thus bankrupting him

>>83989980
they were obligated by others via debt, or the realization that Sauron winning would be bad for them

it's not like they are Ents in terms of taking forever to figure that fact out, it's that they never bother to consider it.

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>>83989980

>Because they're practically un-established plot tools that teleport out of nowhere to rescue the heros at the most convenient times just because


Gandalf calls on their aid twice in the LOTR, it's not "out of nowhere"

Threadly reminder Pipeweed is tobacco

Will we get any other films based on Tolkien's works in the next 10 years?

>>83990519
If chris dies and the people that hold the license decide to dishonor his wishes and sell it off, then yes.

Can we talk about Saul Zaentz?

>>83989645
Dude... compare The Silmarillion, a legitimate work of art, to the Jackson movies, which are decent but basically just pablum.
Tolkien = high, noble tone and elegant beauty as of another world.
Jackson = low, peasant-like tone. Kid jokes. Elf surfing.

>>83990561
>If chris dies
he probably wont

>>83990649
what is he, Vince McMahon?

Why cant they advance technologically? Thousands of years and they still prob dont have indoor plumbing

>>83990649
Alot can happen in 10 years. It's more realistic he'll be alive in a year, but longer is highly doubtful

>>83989645
To memory, Tolkien wrote the books for his kids. Ergo Chris is literally the only person left alive that's opinion actually matters.

>>83989411
this is my desktop wallpaper and laptop lockscreen

>>83990720
we were around quite a while before having indoor plumbing

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>>83990788
this is my phone wallpaper

>>83990827
We've been around for about 6,000 years, actually.

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>>83990893

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>>83990893
I want mine to be this but it's shitty res.

How did Mordor Business Holdings acquire a controlling stake in Isengard Revenue Services without filing a report and getting approval from the Valar Oversight Committee before the end of the business year?

>>83989808
>eagles
>die
Their soul would just go and chill with Manwe

>>83990962
>having a custom picture on the login screen of laptop is normie
kill yourself retard

who /lord of the rings online/ here

>>83990946
Insider trading and hostile takeover.

Is it better to watch the movies first or read the books first? I feel like both have their downsides, with the books obviously some stuff is left out or deviated from in the movies, but if I watch the movies after the books I'm worried I'll just think it's a shittier version of the books and not care. That's what happened to me with Game of Thrones.
Opinions?

>>83991029
I used to play but haven't for a few years. I really should since I bought a lifetime account and probably have a shit ton of turbine monies. Chilling at the prancing pony with people playing music freehand was great

>>83991088
Watch theatrical cuts, read books (all of them), then watch the directors cuts.

>>83991029
for a while
saw an ad for it on normiebook shortly after it went free to play
got to the lonelands then stopped because I'm too autistic to make groups and there weren't any people there anyway

post LOTR songs that make you cry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shdiTRxTJb4

>>83991124
How much of the effect is lost if I first experience LoTR via the movies would you say?

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>>83989577

>>83991151
I don't follow youtube links or expand embeds, fucking cancerous dumbass. Fuck off.

>>83991088
Rent a room a few blocks from a major university.
Leave the window open on breezy summer days.
Buy the LOTR books.
Play Led Zeppelin tracks on a cheap stereo while reading the books and feeling the warm summer breeze come in from over the distant hills.

>>83991176
i pray that a nigger rapes your mother, sisters, and daughters in their sleep tonight

>>83991161
Not much. The movies cut out ad change a bit but it lays the foundation and you'll appreciate the books alot more

>>83991134
>>83991104
gib accounts

>>83991231
no way fag I need it to say I'm going to play again but procrastinate

Anyone else play Divide and Conquer for TATW?

>>83989577
Sauron would see it coming and send his army to mount doom

>>83990942
wat this

>>83991715
Ulmo and Tuor. A story in the Silmarillion.
To note, Tuor is the only human living in the undying lands

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>>83989726

Because the eagles weren't superman they were simply big eagles.

Here's your /pol/ logic:

Hi, I'm Suron. I'm the most powerful being in Middle Earth. Right now, I'm basically a big eye. I can look across all the land. Oh, what's that? Some of those fucking eagles flying right into my stronghold. They seem to be carrying something... is it? Yes! It's my ring.

Welp, I guess they win. I could just send my ring wraiths up there on their flying lizards but no, anon says I'm helpless so I'll just let them bring the ring to my mountain, in the open - as open as they could possibly do it - and not kill them as they try to enter mt doom.
And I honestly don't think you're trolling. I think you're just that dumb.

>>83991764
Ulmo telling Tuor to go to Gondolin

>>83990519
>Will we get any other films based on Tolkien's works in the next 10 years?
Would you really want that?
The Hobbit showed that people can fuck anything up

>>83991029
>who /lord of the rings online/ here
I'd rather have the game offline so I don't have to worry about losing all progress one day

>>83989577
nigga the eagles flew in to get Sam and Frodo after Sauron was dead

>>83989577
why didnt sauron build a protective metal cap to put over the lava of mount doom?

>>83989577
Sauron has flying nazgul patrolling the skies

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>>83990361
stupid

Why are there no child or teenage elves?

>>83993232
They're called hobbits

>>83993232
There are child hobbits though... and Frodo looks somewhat like a teenager.

>>83993232
Elves grow to physical maturity very fast relative to their overall lifespan, and they seldom reproduce, so it makes sense that one would see few child or teenage elves.

Why did they even both taking the ring to Mordor? Couldn't they just have sent someone with a bucket to collect some lava then take it back and pour it on the ring?

Seems pretty obvious to me and wasn't Gandalf supposed to be a fucking genius or something?

What are the Third Age power rankings?

1. Sauron with Ring
2. Gandalf the White
3. Durin's Bane
4. Saruman of Many Colors/Witch-King
5. Gandalf the Grey/Radagast the Brown
6. Smaug
7. Elrond/Galadriel
8. Nazgul
9. Elves/Dwarves/Dunedain
10. Men
11. Hobbits

>>83993453
>no Tom Bombadil
>no Goldberry
>no Shelob
Elrond should be with the lesser Istari. Galadriel should be a step above.

>>83993453
Gandalf the Grey killed Durin's Bane

>>83989779
what are you talking about? there's a 9/10 chance you are a chubby manlet neck beard who lives in a whole in the ground.
you will always be a hobbit

I found a typo in my Silmarillion in 'Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age'.
>and it was terrible, for his fair semblance had departed for ever 'whne' he was cast into the abyss at the drowning of Númenor.

>>83994114
9 times out of ten that doesn't happen.

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>>83989779
looks very similar to my parents home village in rural Wales

maybe youd enjoy moving to the countryside as well?

It's not a dabbing frog thread

It's more than we deserve

>>83994446
But it happened the only time they fought. Grey has a 100% win record

>>83994425
Bravo Hackson

If you didn't shed a manly tear listening to this song after Boromir recognized Aragorn as the true king to the throne, you have no soul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww8wqEgFIA8

>>83994626

i much much prefer the song that plays whenever frodo and sam have their bromance moments: britney spears' oops i did it again. it always brings tears to my eyes. ;_;

>>83994556
I don't have an argument so I'm going to call you a faggot.

>>83989577
And there goes another thread

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>>83990361

>>83991014
>laptop
exposed normie

Over 90 hours long and Hackson still cut Tom Bombandil.

>>83990394
>GONDOR YES!

>>83995074
Tom is the ultimate pleb filter with irregular intervals of singing being a close runner-up

>>83994469
Your countryside will be infested with mudslime soon enough, don't you worry.

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>>83990919

>>83995687
In a good or bad way?

>>83995690
>>>/pol/
you racist scum

>>83995767
>islam is a race

>>83990034
No paris just offered her a better health plan and had better insurance policies.

>>83989577
Eagles only really give a shit about Gandalf and they have a lot of their own problems. One of the reasons Dain and Brand die when Erebor is besieged by easterlings is that the Eagles weren't there to help them and they got surrounded in front of the gates.

>>83993453
im pretty sure smaug woulda crisped greydalf...

screencap this

>>83993453
Smaug and galadriel should be higher

>>83993383
Lava can destroy the most durable item in the universe except a bucket

>>83995961
>>83995959
galadriel > smaug, smaug > greydalf.

Why didn't they ask Tom Bombandil to come with them? I mean they could just casually stroll into Mordor that way.

>>83995074
Wouldn't translate well to film and it was a good decision to cut him. Fight me, pleb.

>>83989411
I'd say take this thread to /lit/ but you're not allowed discuss children's books there

>>83989411

What was Turgon's tax policy?

>>83996057
Plebbiest of the plebs

Fingolfin >>>> Sauron

I'm amazed that Jackson actually filmed a final fight scene between Aragorn and a human sized sauron for the end of RotK

Thank god he cut it, why would he ever think that was a good idea?

>>83989628

>light the world with trees
>everything behind a mountain is permanently in shadow

bravo Valar

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>>83991835
>Welp, I guess they win. I could just send my ring wraiths up there on their flying lizards

you mean the flying lizards that had their shit pushed in by the eagles when it came down to it?

>>83996187
He had many such moments. It's amazing how well the films turned out. If he would have full creative control they would be trash. Same thing with George Lucas.

>>83996277
Only when both Sauron and The Witch King were dead.

>>83996149
Melkor > Fingolfin > other valar > fag maiar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feanor

>>83996350
>>83996149
I'm curious: is Fingolfin a murloc?

>>83996370
Lol. Would be funny if he at least was teleri

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>>83996343
same difference. sauron can't do shit and the witch-king is riding the same lizard as the others

>>83993232
The same reason mixed kids outnumber white kids in Burgerland

>>83996449
arrows, also a eagle could steal the ring

>>83991088
Don't read the books. They are long, boring and melodramatic. Save yourself a disappointment.

>>83993453
Galadriel outstrips punished Sauron by a hair or three.

Fingolfin was actually Eru in elven form like Jesus.

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>>83996551
>implying the eagles can'f fly much higher than where even legolas on steroids could hit them

>also a eagle could steal the ring
as could literally anyone, and that didn't stop them from using the eagles as taxis before

both points invalid

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>>83989577
It is posts like this that make me wonder why I still come here after 13 fucking years. People still reply to this shit, in order to answer it, and its been going on literally for the entire duration 4chan and /tv/ have been around.

You will never leave this place.

>>83993910
>no Tom Bombadil
He's the only one who should have been at the top 11 places on that list.

>>83993232
>>83993327
It is analogous to the decline of rich Caucasian birth rates.

>>83996551
this
>>83996608
a) eagles aren't omniscient (might not know what are they carrying)
b) they coulda used them once or twice to bypass the nasty shit only.

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Don't smoke palantirs, kids.

>>83991613

This. The entire reason for Aragorn going to the gate was to distract the eye and force the armies forward.

So, why is Talion not in movies?

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>>83996757
>mfw Telion isn't on the telly

>>83990647
>the silmarillion
>a legitimate work of art

this is even worse than a party rockers thread

>>83996794
>implying the Silmarillion isn't mythkino

back into the firey pits of reddit whence thou camest

>hackson literally thought it would be a good idea to have aragorn murder an emissary
really? jesus christ

>>83989577
Here's a better question, why didn't they Eagles drop them off at the Lonely Mountain in the Hobbit?

>>83996936
well in that case it really is reasonable to argue that the eagles did them a favor by saving them from the wargs and carrying them for a little bit, but they couldn't expect them to carry them all the way on a quest that was entirely the dwarves' own affair, unlike LOTR where the fate of the entire world hinged on that mission

>>83996936
dwarfs hate flying - there, fix'd

>>83989798
How is he not cutting his hands?

>>83989577
1000 replies
(you)

>>83997050
Dude, he's wearing gauntlets.

>>83997050
You can hold a without the sharp edges touching your fingers. Also: >>83997092

>>83997092
If gauntlets protected you from swords, why didn't people cover them selves in gauntlets instead of armour?

>>83997133
this is laughable

>>83997129
Nigga how the fuck you gonna wear gauntlets on your body?

>>83997050
But he cut his hand. It's just that the artist drew the moment just right before his fingers fell to the ground.

>>83997156
Why?

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>>83997167

>>83997214
This is madness.

>>83989577
>They just didn't.

>>83989411
what was the name of the big city again? was it coursant right?

>>83997247
Mos Eisley.

>>83997247
its pronounced "crew-ah-sun"

>>83997247
Probably something with lots of D, M, N, R, IE and IA.

>>83997310

D E M E N T I A

bravo, J.R.R.Tolkien

>>83997214
It's as spear, you fucks

>>83997335
It's the far away place where the elves tug their elderly away.

>>83997390
>>83997310
dementia getting him early is what caused the books being what they are, thats the joke.

>>83995695
They are Lucas tier bad Anon just don't

To back and watch his earlier movies before fellowship and u can see why he got the job

Hobbit trilogy is literally the worst thing I've seen in kinoplex apart from transformers and star wars the farce engorged

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>>83997214
Now this is shitposting

>>83989577
The best explanation, imo, is a question; how fucked do you think everyone will be if the eagles decided they wanted to take the ring? Giant invisible eagles. Absolutely terrifying.

>>83991029
I played a Guardian (tank) during release. I think this is the most middle earth/tolkien lore friendly game ever. It took the lore and universe and expanded it to make it suitable for a game especially an mmo without it contradicting the lore thats been established.

>>83998001
The rings don't make you invisible, it just takes advantage of the hosts most valuable characteristic, like sauron being powerful, hobbits being stealth, men respect... etc... so eagles would probably be zooming around faster then mock 3

>>83993453
galadriel is strong as all fuck and i'm pretty sure smaug should be higher than that.

>>83998063
my man
>>83995989

At the end of Fellowship, why does Aragorn let Frodo leave for Mordor by himself?

>>83998057
Isildur went invisible when he put on the ring, at least in the movie.

>>83998057
>mock 3
>does not know how to spell mach

illiterate monkey

>>83998122

he doesnt, thats another Hackson screw up

>>83998057
Source? Was that in one of his letters?

>>83997794
Got me

>>83998192
The wiki doesn't specify what the one rings power is, only that it holds power over the other rings. It does say a little about the other rings though, like how Galadriel's ring makes her very seductive and alluring. It's funny though, that despite knowing the reason behind the rings and that Sauron could control theirs, they still wear them. It goes into detail about the other two elvish rings, too.

I think he's right on some level (I'm the guy he responded to), but it could literally be anything. Whatever is valuable at that moment is what the ring could give you. It's very much open to interpretation.

>>83998330
The Elven Rings were uncorrupted by Sauron (Celebrimbor crafted the Elven rings in secret), and so were fine to wear as long as he didn't have the Ring and as long as their powers weren't thrown around willy nilly. As soon as he gets it back, they would need to remove them or suffer the same fate as the Nine, though it would probably take longer.

>>83998139
So it's not like that in the book?

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Turin and Beleg buddycop movie when?

>>83998438
Celebrimbor is a Shadow of Mordor OC Donut Steel that appears nowhere in the Tolkien lore. Kill yourself and never reply to me again.

>>83989577
Nobody answer him slowpoke.jpeg

>>83998565

young and handsome turin and young and handsome beleg brokeback mountain movie when?

>>83998547
In the book Aragorn has no clue where anyone is until after Boromir's death

>>83996936
Because in the Hobbit they were freaked out by mirkwood and didn't want to fly anywhere near it. The Lord of the eagles said that himself.

>>83998582
How can one man be so wrong?

>>83999781
grass for breakfast
woke tolkien
ahead of his time

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>>83996936
Smaug would have smelled them, also flying spiders.
>>83997133
Fan map. Doriath is in the sea north and more west than north of the Blue Mountains.
>>83998122
Aaragorn presumes Frodo dead and the Ring taken. The dash across the Eastfold is his expression of despair; Gimli and Legolas grieve in their races' archetypal way.
>>83998130
Movie fucked up
>>83998565
Never ever. The message, if we get it at all, would be acceptance of change in racial makeup of your homeland.
>>83998582
Ah huh.
>>83999781
Bombadil best gril

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>>84000018
>this post

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>>83990458
Lol nah man lil hobits they light it up haha bet they grow that good shit to

>>83997050
You can swing a sword by the blade with proper technique, it was used to combat armored combatants in medieval times. It doesn't cut if it doesn't slide. Skallagrim did a video on this if you like to see it.

>>83990720
probably magic. People only started using the scientific method and actually trying to figure shit out when they realized that religion and all that crazy shit was a lie and they actually had to go and figure it out, but in middle earth magic and myth are real, and so theres never that, "everything i was told was a lie I have to figure this out" moment. Their shit actually was crafted by gods and there actually is a big plan and we actually cant figure anything out, its totally different from reality thats why its "fantasy."

>>83989461
why he so angery

>>84001207
>this is what atheists actually believe

>>83990919
WE WUZ plumbers

>>83990775
>Tolkien wrote the books for his kids
That is a pretty based reason to write a book.

>>84001234
only reason we advanced scientifically is because smart people realized religion was a lie.
if you suppose
1)religion isnt a lie
then
2)there is never a realization
3)there is never any drive to use the scientific method
4)there is no sense or purpose on figuring out the intricacies of the world since it was made by gods, there is no natural law only Eru

in this environment science would never form.

>>83991161
I watched the movies before reading the books. I don't think my experience of the books was lessened by it at all. LotR head turned out to be one of the few works where I feel like the movies turned out as good as the books, even with the differences. Books and movies have very different constraints and I think of you keep that in mind you can enjoy both works for what they are

>>84000018
kys

>>84001304
dude you're an idiot

>>83997794
This scene was extremely well done imo.

>>83993383
Taking the ring there was a suicide mission itself, nobody was really expecting the hobbits to return from Mordor. Plus do you really think that an amount of lava small enough to fit inside of a bucket wouldn't cool and become rock well before it even got out of Mordor

>>83996018
IIRC bombadil didn't have any powers outside of his forest

>>83996279
Wasn't the Hobbit trilogy an example of Jackson NOT having total control and things turning out shit as a result?

I want to lick Galadriel's comfy bare feet.

I feel sorry for all the great fantasy classics that were contemporaries of Tolkien that got completely swallowed in the LOTR hype abyss.

>>83989779
really makes me wanna go unnaground

>>84001325
whatever you say, easily-triggered christcuck

>>83991382
Yesss, such a good mod.

>>84001786
bombadil had all the powers, he was just an asshole

>>84002391
Just like how Gandalf only gave half-answers that just posed more questions throughout the book

>>84002164
name 3 fgt

>>83996651
>Brexit proceeds, borders closed
>Refugees flood continental europe and erode society
>whites take the boat west
>some fujis make it to the isle, get caged

>meanwhile China, Russia, and US have a 3 way nuclear exchange

voila, middle earth

>>83996608
Look, just shut up about the Eagles and quit trying to ruin a nice thread with your lame, reddit arguments.
Somebody here once posted something like this regarding the eagles:
The Eagles situation is like this - you've got a friend that'll take you to the airport even if it's out of the way, but if you ask them to shove a balloon full of coke up their ass and go to North Korea with you, it's a no go.

>>83989577
Eagles are the feathery jew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unHW5-FagHM&t=66s

Anyone has the scene where Jackson calls Viggo Aragorn during the scene?

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>Shitting on Christopher
>When he's still doing gods work and fixing his fathers notes into great books

Pic related. Finally finished it properly.

>>83990649
C. Tolkien is 92. It's a matter of time.

>>83990775
JRRT's daughter Priscilla (b. 1929) is still around, at least ATW.

The Hobbit was intended as a kid's book. But LOTR?

>>83993453
Radagast shouldn't be that high.

The Ents should be in there somewhere. They're the ones who rekt Isengard.

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>>83997129

Has anyone read Bored of the Rings?

Why did Sauron let Golem go (or did Golem escape?)? Either way, that doesn't sound like something the Lord of all evil would do