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I was born in the 1970s. Pretty awesome actually. You couldn't

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I was born in the 1970s. Pretty awesome actually. You couldn't verify a damn thing. You could lie and tell stories as though they were the truth and people would believe you and they never found out otherwise.

There was nothing at all to distract you from the things you wanted to do. You focused and got shit done. If you wanted to talk to someone distant you had to be tethered to the wall with the phone cord. Paper-based mail was exciting when you sent and received letters. You had to actually get up and drive, walk, bike to your friend's house to talk to them. You had to wait up to 1 month to get photos developed and you had to choose your shots carefully. You had to ask local people for directions when traveling.

Everyone talked to everyone else when you went out somewhere. Sometimes you'd sit down to a meal and have a group conversation with several other people in the restaurant and everyone else would be listening in.

Secrets were kept. Porn was in magazines and on VHS/Beta you had to hide from your parents or randomly find in the woods. When you were out in nature you had to focus on nature and not your phone or battery life. Walkie-Talkie hide and seek was a thing. There were only 3 TV channels, if you turned the antenna correctly. Movies were neighborhood events.

Hidden ponds didn't have trash around them because you were the only person who knew about them. Trails didn't have graffiti and twitter tags, if there were trails. The fish were bigger then. The water cleaner. There wasn't any jet trails in the sky. Rainbows were not for fags. You used gas lanterns and flashlights with massive square batteries around camp.

Where ever you were, you looked out from that spot to everything around you. You didn't look at a screen to determine where your place was in the world. Your place was where ever you happened to be.
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didn't read lmao
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>>83987923
Thanks OP, sounds like a breath of fresh air. We can't focus on these things though or we'll just be unhappy
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>>83987923
>tfw you will never experience the world before the internet ruined it
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>>83988196
You can get off the computer and ignore memefags and it will be kind of simlar
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>>83988196
Not as old as OP, but old enough to be basically the last generation to remember life before the internet.

The only thing that is missing from the world now is the fact that people can't be assed to talk to each other face to face. You say something to a stranger nowadays and they act like you're going to murder them. Didn't used to be like that. Other than that, the trade off is completely worth it. Life was super fucking boring.
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>>83987923
32 here.

One thing I have noticed in the last few years is the world just doesn't -feel- like it used to. Enough things have changed since I was a kid that the overall effect on a person when they go outside is different. The cars use different types of engines, the gasoline is a different formula, the fast food restaurants cook with a different kind of oil, the climate is slightly different. The roads are covered by a different type of asphalt. The rubber in tires is a different composition.

I suppose my senses have also changed over time, but the effect is quite disconcerting.
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>>83988349
It would take a long time for it to be similar to the pre-internet days. Your brain is literally adapted to internet usage and when you leave it for even a few minutes your stress level will begin to rise. You won't be able to keep your attention on things for long periods of time like people pre-internet. Maybe after a few months this effect would diminish. I wouldn't know. I haven't gone longer than 48 hours without internet since 2003.
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>>83987923
>Porn was in magazines and on VHS/Beta you had to hide from your parents or randomly find in the woods. When you were out in nature you had to focus on nature and not your phone or battery life.
Dude I was born in 1991 and we did this.
> There were only 3 TV channels, if you turned the antenna correctly
Yeah well we had 5 if you didn't have cable or satellite, and it was 90% garbage because it was right before UPN failed and American Idol was still new enough to get a fucking movie. Nobody had ever heard of Kim Kardashian and everyone was focused on Paris Hilton.
The good old days, when we'd go out to steal street signs and build dirt ramps for our Wal-Mart BMX bikes but still get together for Halo LAN parties on weekends and maybe gather around some hentai somebody managed to get ahold of from a friend of a friend.
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>>83987923
>Porn was in magazines and on VHS/Beta you had to hide from your parents or randomly find in the woods.

Once in a while, when I got for a walk in the woods, I'll catch a whiff of decaying leaves or something and sense that there might be a Penthouse nearby...
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>>83988637
>hentai

fuckin yanks
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>>83987923
>Porn was in magazines and on VHS/Beta you had to hide from your parents or randomly find in the woods.
>randomly find in the woods

Kek. Oh, the things I found walking home from school in the ghetto.

Made me the man I am today ;^)
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> You didn't look at a screen to determine where your place was in the world. Your place was where ever you happened to be.
Why does it hurt so much?
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>>83988453
>>83987923
32 too same
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>>83988672
Dude, it was 2004 and we were fumbling through puberty, DBZ was still going on Toonami and hormones were raging. I used to jerk off watching Buffy, there was this really great magazine spread with those two sluts from the OC on GQ or Maxim or some rag like that I kept under my mattress. Bare flesh was at a premium, animated or not. I used to watch Braveheart, Gangs of New York, and The Emerald Forest just to have something to beat off to. Old School was great for that, and I pulled my dick raw thanks to Shannon Elizabeth in American Pie.
So sometimes if some goddamn hentai came around, you know I was on that shit. I used to masturbate when I woke up, when I got home from school, and before I went to bed. I had a big yellow spot on my sheet, it was sickening.
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>>83987923
born in 73'
there were con-trails
i miss those old square batteries and lightning bugs in the city and picking pears off neighbors trees
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>>83989497
>born in 73'
I was born that same year. First two movies I remember watching at the theater were Young Frankenstein and Star Wars. I only remembered they guy with weird eyes in Frankenstein, and the mouse droid from Star Wars.
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>>83989497
>>83989592
What the fuck are you guys doing here?
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>>83989622
i've been here for 11 years
mostly /tv/ lets me know about shit i wouldn't otherwise and makes me laugh like nothing else
>>83989592
my first memory is seeing Star Wars, Vader boarding the Tantive IV
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>>83987923
Grew up in the 90's. Was a lot like you describe. No one had internet beside a handful of people and things were more real when dealing with other people. No narcissists snapping a million pics for social media.

Much better time imo.
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>>83988453
31 and I know exactly what you're saying. I thought it wad me just depersonalizing or some shit.

It also seems like some things are much more frail, fake, and shittier. Idk how to explain it. I definitely get what you're saying, glad I came into the thread and read that.
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>>83989622
As opposed to spending your teens and 20's here?
Ironic
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>>83989622
>What the fuck are you guys doing here?
Same as this anon>>83989705
>makes me laugh like nothing else
Except, not as much anymore. It's become more mean spirited that past few years.
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>>83988453

This. Roads used to be better- smoother, less potholes. It's like a third world country where I live. Using that Chinese made asphalt nowadays.
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>>83987923
sounds gay as fuck and awful

>>83988196
>le wrong generation
kill yourself you fucking 1998-born faggot
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>>83989900
>>83988453
Don't forget the streetlights and headlights on vehicles. They're largely switching over to led.
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DAE LE WRONG GENERATION??? LIKE THIS IF U LISTEN TO REAL MUSIC UNLIKE KIDS TODAY
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>>83989824

This. Kids (25 and younger) on this board talk a lot of shit but have no real perspective or life experience to draw that shit talking from.
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Does anyone remember laughter?
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>>83987923
>Hidden ponds didn't have trash around them because you were the only person who knew about them. Trails didn't have graffiti and twitter tags, if there were trails. The fish were bigger then. The water cleaner. There wasn't any jet trails in the sky. Rainbows were not for fags. You used gas lanterns and flashlights with massive square batteries around camp.

I never realized tract house suburbs in the 80's were a literal utopia
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>>83989936

That comfy yellowish hue. Pop up headlights too dangerous for pedestrians. Cars nowadays are ugly and anonymous looking as fuck.

>music with autotune. hearing some teen blasting that garbage through their weak cell phone speaker. tfw ghettoblasters were the real deal.
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>>83990018
no we only made jiffypop with those metal/foil baskets that burned you
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>>83987923
I hate this faux nostalgia bullshit. Who wants to have a group conversation with a bunch of random assholes in a restaurant? Who finds that appealing? Everything now is better than it's ever been. Who the fuck wants 3 channels on TV? What does "your place was where ever you happened to mean"? What is this reductionist bullshit?

Adapt or die a long, slow and painful spiritual death
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>>83989824
>>83989984
Hey, I'm just here for the memes and to bait the kids on occasion.
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>>83990128
there are things that were great about that time period, no parental guidance or warnings etc
but there are lots of things that are great from now as well. it doesn't have to be one or the other.
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>>83990128
>Year of Our Lord 1000+1000+10+5+2
>Watching actual television channels
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>>83988349
what are you taking about? Normies already embraced the internet in every way possible
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>>83990128
>faux nostalgia bullshit
>not understand that simplicity is a better way of living than all the complex bullshit of today

Q: ARE YOU RETARDED

>Everything now is better than it's ever been

A: YES
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>>83990321
>simplicity is a better way of living than all the complex bullshit of today
Sounds like something a brainlet would say.

You sound like a boomer faggot still reminiscing about The Rolling Stones and 8 tracks, lmao.
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I truly think the internet made humanity worse
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>>83990377
not a boomer dumbass, just someone that knows how to analyze the world for what it is today. I don't make excuses for it going backwards with the advancement of technology, instead of forwards.
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>>83990677
>claims to "analyze" the world for what it is objectively
>BAWWWWWW MY FEELINGS IM DEPRESSED THINGS AREN'T LIKE WHAT THEY USED TO BE DA SOCIAL MEDIA DID THIS
lol ok hyperemotional faggot
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>>83990752
>hyperemotional from telling it like it is................................

wew
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>>83990793
>using your feelings as an argument is "telling it like it is"
get ur estrogen levels checked brother
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>>83987923
>talking to strangers in public
https://youtu.be/RYbe-35_BaA
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>>83989814
I'm 34. When we were kids, most things were made in America. Nowadays, most things were made in China.
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>>83990918
vs
https://youtu.be/W8n11y2lxrE
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>>83990793
k thanks brah
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>>83990874
k thanks brah
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i was in a horrific wreck when i was 19 (31 now). after that near death experience i didn't feel right. i felt like everyone and the rest of the world moved on without me. i tried to play catch up, went to different university programs and dropped out of them all, tried my hand at a few things, got a criminal record, copped an opiate habit, thought i met the girl of my dreams.

nothing really worked out because i feel like theres this cement block in front of me and everyone and everything else. i long to destroy all of this and just live like us humans should.

the last little while ive been obsessed with getting rich, buying nice cars, getting a nice body... its all meaningless. im not interested in pursuing a relationship, my thoughts are anxious and panic prone...

ive thought about joining the army or going to some conflict zones. i used to want to be a war photographer. i think that is what i might have to do. everything seems meaningless. i dont have a hope of doing and acting like the other folks. the only times i feel at comfort with myself and the world is when im using heroin. its sad. and a painful existence.
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32 myself, I assume everyone here is memeing, everything you can say of 2017 was true of our childhoods too, we just saw it differently because of a few different trivial specifics, youth, and shittier technology.
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>>83991090
When did you start using?

This post reeks of addiction
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>>83991116
like 4 years ago but it only got really bad a couple years back. ive gotten clean so many times that withdrawals are so normal to me. im 3 days without dope right now, actually.

part of how i feel tonight is because of the lack of opiates. i get clean for a month at a time but my life seems so... nothing.
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>>83988196
>>83988349

I went to Madrid a few years ago alone. I had Verizon cell phone service, so my phone was incompatible with any European phone service. I stayed in an apartment with a shitty router where you had to be right next to it to get any signal. I spent three weeks with almost no connection to the internet or screens. I just walked around the city every day for three weeks and saw whatever I happened to see. Some of it was a relief. I could tell that my brain worked differently without screens to distract me, but it was also horribly lonely, and not just because I went alone.

I kept getting lost in a foreign city, and I could never tell if the restaurant by me was worth visiting. I went running one afternoon and got so lost that I accidentally ran a half marathon.

I just got back from Madrid again, but this time with an unlocked phone. I could actually get where I wanted to go this time. I was connected. If I was trying to meet with somebody, I could actually find them or let them know if I was going to be late. I definitely did more things this time because I wasn't mindlessly ambling. While there may have been an aesthetic novelty to spending so much time without a screen, I don't think it's some sort of cure-all to your productivity or focus. Yeah it's more difficult to be mindful nowadays, but it's still doable.
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>>83991210
you should have just went to the restaraunt.. or gotten a lonely planet guidebook. when i travelled southeast asia we just used cheap photo copied guidebooks to locate hostels and places to eat. sometimes we just went to what we could see. it all worked out great and was a good experience.
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>>83989497
are those square batteries really gone? jesus
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I was born in 1980 and can remember the uncanny, creepy quality old PBS educational kids shows had on fuzzy UHF TV. This one was some creepy shit as a kid in the 80s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss8bGNgEnLE Replete with sinister floating heads in alternate dimensions, who set up "puzzles" that would make Jigsaw proud, as part of a fucking conspiracy.
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>>83987923
>shitty generation that have fucked things up for others
>created the internet
>made us realize that 99% of shit in life is essentially fucking pointless
>let corporations brainwash kids with commercials
>said kids are now consuming massive amounts of low quality shit
>now here bitching about how life was so good before we fucked it up kek
How about you gtfo out and let us enjoy our slow descent into madness you assholes, but I guess as the generation that ruins shit for others it's habitual.
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>>83988453
31 here. I feel it. Shit's freaky.
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>>83987923
Nostalgia is extremely reddit. gtfo
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>>83991387
>>created the internet
You're a few generations off there.
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>>83991251
It was more that I'd find a restaurant I really liked and wanted to visit again, but I could never remember where it was or how to get there.
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>>83987923
OP, when were you born? I'm a 78 baby and I know exactly what you mean. Also, back then there were less niggers and shitskins!!!FACT!!!
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I really miss movies like the Lethal Weapon franchise. Fun Buddy/cop action flicks that didn't aspire to anything more than that. I would pay to see more such shit in theaters instead of endless big budget capshit sequels.
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>>83988931
'91 here. Shannon Elizabeth meant something to me also. She just disappeared
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>grow up in modern times
>internet
>technology
>be able to connect with 3.2 billion human beings for free
>live in the second golden age of cinema
>enjoy luxuries like being able to talk and connect with friends even if your parents won't let you go out
>be able to access worlds fit for exploration despite not being born in the right century
>be able to instantly watch any film, listen to any song, and read any book you wish
>have access to an infinite amount of knowledge, to the point where you can self-educate yourself on virtually any topic
>be able to create entire symphonies with elite tier tools for free
>if you wish to make a work of art, whether its a video or a physical work or a song or a novel, you can publish it to an audience of millions who are willing to view it
>be able to realize dreams of being a film director, an artist, or a musician without succumbing to society and becoming an accountant

i dont think the world is deteriorating, I think the attitudes older people have towards life and their expectations for it have remained the same despite the world shifting dramatically the past 30 years. I'm sure all these modern kids will be thinking the same thing 20 years from now
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>>83988453
33 here.. feel exactly the same
growing up without the internet.. most advanced thing we had in the house was an NES with a handful of games.. went out and met random neighbourhood kids on our bikes and generally got into trouble without doing any real harm
some of the kids in my area these days are fucking edgy little cunts..
9-10 year olds tagging shit, keying cars, breaking windows, stealing shit etc.

this was shit that only the 'big kids' did (i'm talking 14-15 year olds).
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>>83991941
>some of the kids in my area these days are fucking edgy little cunts..
protip: there was some stodgy old cunt in your neighbourhood who thought the same thing of you
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>>83987923
Congratulations, you romanticised an arbitrary decade, what's the next step in your master plan?
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>>83988453
It's because we've been in the darkest timeline since 2000!!!FACT!!!
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>>83991924
The funny thing is, I can immerse myself in 80's media better than someone who was there: every music video ever made on YT, crazy shit like hours of taped TV from back then with commercials and all on YT, every album from back then, every arcade/console game in emulation.

80's movies in full HD projected at theater quality any time you want for cheap...the list goes on. Loads of fun to live in this virtual past.
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>>83988453
>"The world is changed. I taste it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air"

Was Tolkien, dare i say...OUR guy ?
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Hey, at least we know we're not living in the Matrix, as Agent Smith maintained that the late 90s was used for the simulacrum as it was the height of civilization. We're well beyond that point, so...
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>>83989622
We can never leave!!!FACT!!! https://youtu.be/vJ9aT-Wa_tE
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>>83989622
Our beloved 1980's vintage USENET discussions are still working, but the volume is a bit low these days.
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>>83991924
I agree, there is already nostalgia for the early 2000s. I remember being shocked when 90s nostalgia took off, but now I can see literally every generation does it.
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>>83987923
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>>83990276
>can't do common core correctly
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In other words, everything was needlessly complicated.
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>>83991941
Know what you mean. At 10 I was playing all American football during the summer and romping around the woods trying to find porno mags.

I know exactly what you mean by "big kids" too. I egged a house at 13 and felt like a certified criminal for months.
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>>83992271
PRETTY MUCH
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Remember when humor was about coming up with very funny, personal associations, and not regurgitating simpsons quotes?
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>You'll never get a righteous score on Missile Command, and scarf Perry's pizza at the Sherman Oaks Galleria (and get to third base with the girls that work there)

Why live?
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>>83992137
>not living in the Matrix,
good goy
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>>83988453
It's quite simple. Globalists and comglomerates have rigged it so that they've made everything purposefully cheaper and shittier so that you use your goy bucks to buy the same fucking thing again, making them richer. Thats ties in with the "eco-friendly" economy. A lot of decreases in quality have been veiled as eco-friendly. It's just a fucking excuse for them to make cheaper shit.

STUFF USED TO LAST A FUCKING GENERATION OR MORE IF CARED FOR.
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>>83991386
Still better than the shit I saw in the Early 2000's. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LQl3yO3kbs
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Early 2000s kids of /tv/: what do you miss from the early 2000s?
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>>83991924
That 's a common misconception I see people make
>the internet is more cancerous than ever now
>technology has been used to keep people lazy,
>relying on the approval of others let alone a network of people who aren't even really your friends or close to you in any way on a massive scale doesn't help you as a human being it weakens you since your always be self reliant on it ( if your not good for you that doesn't mean the majority of society isn't)
> talking and connecting with friends online and through text as oppose to talking and connecting with them in person has shown clear signs of an antisocial society many people can't even go a full 5 mins in a convo without looking at their phones, real intimate connections your making.......
>we've always had acces to worlds even tho we werent born in the right centuries except they were in the forms of vhs, dvds later, and tv not youtube or google not necessarily bad, just not something that wasn't happening already
>be able to instantly watch any film, listen to any song, and read any book you wish, good for the most part until you get to the dark parts of the web
>have access to an infinite amount of knowledge, to the point where you can self-educate yourself on virtually any topic yes and no since learning anything requires discipline and consistency, most of the unfocused minds of today don't have that in them to busy snapchatting
>entire symphonies....elite tier tools....nigga are you talking about apps because if you are, that shit doesn't make you on par with mozart or bach
> there's art and then there's shit people think is art, this only makes it harder to have good original creative productivity and flushes the genre or market with trash, but your right it can lead to bigger and better things as well
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>>83991924
>nigga it takes skill and hardwork and just a general understanding of your craft to every extent to become what your asking having a job as an accountant who gets paid well and understands how to not get screwed over by the government isn't a bad thing or having a solid trade skill isn't only great financially but physically as well. To each his/her own though, just have to know not everyone is meant to be something just cause they like it, most of society doesn't reaize that.

The world is deteriorating it's just doing it at a speed your unwilling to follow, but that's fine the new age shit is all here to keep you distracted. Just don't be one of those people who goes how did we get here, because people we're telling your ass your gonna get to that point and you were to busy engulfed in the thrills of now to notice it.
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>Rainbows were not for fags

congrats you completely blew what was a nice little monologue
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>>83991581
i get that. me and my buddy found an amazing duck noodle place in chinatown in bkk and he went back later and was never able to find it again
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>>83992497
>Sherman Oaks Galleria

"Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Valley Girl(aerial, exterior shots), Night of the Comet, Commando, Back to the Future Part II, Albert Brooks' Mother, Terminator 2: Judgment Day, Phantom of the Mall: Eric's Revenge, Walk Like a Man (1987), Innerspace and Chopping Mall were filmed at the Galleria"

!!!FACT!!!
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>>83993238
no he didn't stop being a faggot
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>>83993072
All of that is subjective, how can that be a misconception? Misconceptions relate to fact, not personal opinions. Just because you feel things are getting worse doesn't mean that's what everyone is experiencing.
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>>83993072
>many people can't even go a full 5 mins in a convo without looking at their phones
>i'm so dull the person i'm talking to is forced to try extracting some small amount of substance from their phone instead
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>>83993275
It was the 80s mall archetype, immortalized in celluloid, and a holy place for valley girls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHf089jl9H4
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>>83993072
The internet has more abundant information and more of it quality than ever before, kind of ruins the point to your rant.
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I was born in the '80s and I firmly believe we hit the sweet spot between technology and living in the late 90's. Cell phones should just be able to make and receive calls. If you want to use the Internet you should have to sit down at a desk and use a real PC. There's cameras on every device you buy and every street corner now. I miss Blockbuster so much...
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>>83993324
I was relating it more on the premise that like this anon many people believe these same things to be facts as oppose to opinions, but you are right in some cases it's pretty subjective
>>83993348
lol that's cute
>>83993502
the internet while having a wide range of info isn't clearly used for that purpose on most occasions, and for the most part at times will have people ask other people for the info instead of just looking it up themselves. Then again it does all depend on the individual however most are adapting a more hive mindset now.
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>>83993684
>and for the most part at times will have people ask other people for the info instead of just looking it up themselves
That might be true for you and the people you associate with online, but not everyone. I agree that signal-to-noise ratio of the internet has decreased a lot over the last 15-20 years, but that's just because the in the early-mid 90s it was mostly universities and professionals that could afford personal computers or see a practical use for them -- and because there has been an explosion in data, both useful and not useful.

If you can't sift through that data to locate the signal, that's more of a reflection on you and your intellectual curiosity than it is on the internet as a whole no offense. In absolute terms, useful data has grown.
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>>83993516
>I was born in the '80s and I firmly believe we hit the sweet spot between technology and living in the late 90's

This, CARS too. They weren't these giant automatic SUV's/Trucks with lines and headlights shaped like sedans made easy for women and mothers to drive and tailgate everyone on the shitty roads while they surf the internet on their phones and onboard computer screens.
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>>83993502
>The internet has more abundant information and more of it quality than ever before
And yet there is more retardation, falsehood and conspriacy then every before
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>>83987923
>I was born in the 1970s. Pretty awesome actually.

And now you're on an internet forum full of autistic teenagers giggling over saying nigger and kike, and masturbating to crudely drawn Japanese animation.

How's life working out for you? Is it damn awesome?
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>>83994447

I like how not only is this post a massive, insecurity ridden projection of the person who wrote it, it also heavily implies the author genuinely believes that everyone spends hours upon hours of their life here and has nothing else going on, as if you somehow couldn't post otherwise.

Fucking retard.
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>>83987923
>You couldn't verify a damn thing. You could lie and tell stories as though they were the truth and people would believe you and they never found out otherwise.

You're right. I guess Trump still thinks it's the 70s.
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>>83987923
all true
tech is never neutral
in fact, most technology is destructive
destroying jobs
destroying ways of life
destroying norms
destroying traditions
destroying morality
destroying the environment
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>>83989622
4chins has been around 14 years. WTF are you doing here wasting your youth arguing with morons?
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>>83995434
So go and live in a forest and die of a tooth abscess and malaria.
You're a moron.
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>>83990128
>Everything now is better than it's ever been.
Objectively false.
>Adapt or die a long, slow and painful spiritual death
Well, technology is definitely a race. And there are winners and losers when it comes to technology.

The funny thing is you don't realize what's been lost.
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>>83995521
He thinks modern dentistry and diet is saving teeth.
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>>83990437
>I truly think the internet made humanity worse

Yes. See:

Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (1841) by Charles Mackay
Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business (1985) by Neil Postman
The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil (2007) by Philip Zimbardo
The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains (2010) by Nicholas Carr
The Net Delusion: The Dark Side of Internet Freedom (2011) by Evgeny Morozov
To Save Everything, Click Here: The Folly of Technological Solutionism (2013) by Evgeny Morozov
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>>83995527
>Objectively false.
Objectively false.
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>>83990752
>SOCIAL MEDIA DID THIS

I don't think you realize the disruption that social media has caused globally.

Fags in Silicon Valley love to talk about technological "disruptors" and social media is exactly one of those things.

Technology is never neutral.
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>>83988453
34 here
I tell people about CERN and HAARP and they think "Oh great! Anon's off of his meds again! If only we had MORE government interference!!" Only to find out 10 years later that Bullshitisol causes strokes and brain damage.
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>>83991090

Have you read Brave New World? Ever seen Naked and Afraid?
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>>83991109
>everything you can say of 2017 was true of our childhoods too
wrong
stop acting like the www didn't happen
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>>83991090
I almost drowned at the age of 21.
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>>83995489

No, you don't get it, spending the extremely fleeting prime years of your life hanging out on an ancient website ans copying the creations of an entire generation ago is actually winning at life
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>>83995527
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>>83991109
No one who is 32 years old would use the phrase "is memeing". Your entire cadence of writing feels younger. I think you're lying.
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>>83987923
sounds like pretty shitty times my man
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>>83991924

You're talking about a world of make believe, escapism.

>i dont think the world is deteriorating

Every young person thinks this. Until they realize it too late.
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>>83992271
>In other words, everything was needlessly complicated.

It's funny watching old movies that would be solved quickly with current day technology. Usually smartphones.
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>>83992602
what youre talking about is called "planned obsolescence" and it has been in full gear since the 70s. People really noticed this when the cars became chinsy and couldnt take a shot anymore.
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>>83992495

Society went to hell with Fox, The Simpsons, Married with Children, In Living Color, and Fox News.
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>>83995670
>le we are leaving in a deteriorating world meme

lmao edgy much? What is your current biggest problem? Not being able to solve the captcha at first try? Some liberals being loud at your local college campus?
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>>83995670
See >>83995643
>>83995590
See: Flynn Effect

People today live longer, enjoy more sustenance, are healthier and are even more intelligent than at any other time in human history.

I'm very glad they don't make em like they used to, because they used to be shit.
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>>83995527
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>>83993238

No he didn't. And that guy, Gilbert Baker, recently died in March 2017.

Like Demetri Martin said, pretty selfish gays.
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>>83993324
>Just because you feel things are getting worse doesn't mean that's what everyone is experiencing.

You'll realize things are getting worse when you reach a certain age.

It's kind of like realizing "wow, I was retarded 10 years ago."
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>>83988453
31 here.

It's not only that. Here in Tennessee, it's so much goddamn hotter here than it used to be. Dryer, too. The climate change is so goddamn tangible in such a temperate place.

It used to rain a LOT here in the spring and summer. Last year, it was so dry that we had horrible wildfires. The world is incredibly different, even naturally.
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>>83988196

I was a child before the internet

It's really not all bad. When I was a kid, I was constantly curious and I basically just couldn't find anything out. If it wasn't in a book you had or your parents didn't know, you couldn't do anything.

Admittedly the internet makes it so you're constantly entertained and you never actually care that much about finding anything out, but for people strong enough to take a break every now and then, it is an absolute god send.

People just haven't realized yet that you need to have huge breaks from the internet or it will consume you entirely
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>>83995760
I'm trying to fathom what rainbows actually are for.
Is it for hanging people from dead trees? Certainly have the ark to perfection, yes?
Oh wait, according to the kike ridden internet search, the BIBLE uses the rainbow to symbolize YAHWEH! asking for forgiveness for his decant genocide of the faggits.
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>>83992067
>green eyeballs
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>>83993348
>>i'm so dull the person i'm talking to is forced to try extracting some small amount of substance from their phone instead

There were 3.4 billion Internet users in 2016.

How can any one person compete for the attention of another person when the novelty of 3.4 billion people is fingertips away?

Relationships have fallen prey to globalization. Suddenly, you are in competition with billions of other people, at every moment, of every day. That is the attention economy. And smartphones turn people into novelty addicts.
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>>83995798
>Admittedly the internet makes it so you're constantly entertained and you never actually care that much about finding anything out, but for people strong enough to take a break every now and then, it is an absolute god send.
Today almost every human has access to the entirety of history and knowledge, and all at our fingertips. Truly we are as gods.
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pussy asses
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>>83995832

It is absolutely amazing, and you really had to experience the darkness beforehand to appreciate it

I think we're just figuring it out, though. The experience I mean. The worth of something isn't judged just by usefulness, but also by how you feel when you're doing it. People seem to be collectively realizing that they feel like shit because of the internet.

It's probably like when we first invented alcohol. It would have taken us a while to realize that you shouldn't be black-out drunk absolutely all the time, and that it should be used sparingly.
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You fuckers are not even aware that we are living in the golden era for NEET's and losers like us.

Social anxiety, depression, autism, all of that was just called "slow retard loser" back in the day.
No one cared or gave a shit about those things, and today you can get literal drugs LEGALLY from your own doctor if you are just plain sad.
You get government money just for being unemployed and staying at home doing nothing.
In some countries you can even get government funded sex partners if you are that disabled because sex is considered as a human right.

Imagine being a socially anxious autist in the 1970s, what the fuck could you do except shutting yourself in your room staring at the wall and maybe jerking off to some underwear magazine?
Today you have everything, a fast internet connection to keep you busy the whole day, drugs for interacting with other people, money for doing nothing, sex for free, everything.
I think the situation and outlook on terms like "social anxiety" will change in the next years because it's become literally a meme where 90% of people will say they are mentally ill while being normally functioning human beings. so take advantage of your situation while you can.
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>>83993502
The world doesn't need more opinions, it needs less opinions. The world doesn't need more information, it needs less. Information is a firehose at this point. Sorting through it, knowing what to trust, knowing who to trust, what people pay attention to in the 24/7 fight for everyone's attention.

The fractured media landscape has basically given rise to "homo fractalis."

Debord wrote, "The spectacle is not a collection of images, but a social relation among people, mediated by images." Debord said the "integrated spectacle shows itself to be simultaneously concentrated and diffuse...never to be occupied by a known leader, or clear ideology."

Jean Baudrillard:
>The aura of our world is no longer sacred -- no longer the numinous horizon of appearances -- but one of absolute merchandise. Its essence is advertising. At the heart of our universe of signs is a mischievous ad-man genie of publicity, a trickster, who has integrated the buffoonery of merchandising with its staging. A brilliant scenographer (capital?) has lured the world into a phantasmagoria of which we are all the fascinated victims.

>Consumption is merely an "intermediary stage between production and destruction", it is a system of "forced consumption in perpetuity", a kind of social logic that condemns us to "spectacular penury" in our own totalitarian society, the reconstituted society of empty intimacies: ...the institutional smile... intimacy where there is none... This huge system of solicitude is based on a total contradiction ... of the deep contradictions of our so called "affluent society"..."functionalized" human relations...cleansed of all real, effective harmonics, and reconstituted on the basis of the calculated vibrations of the ideal relationship...There is no transcendence anymore, no finality, no objective..."
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>>83995937
>just called "slow retard loser" back in the day.
t. someone who lives in reality
we STILL call you faggots slow retard losers. we just make up this bullshit in hopes you stop being a bitch and get a fucking job.
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>>83993516
>Cell phones should just be able to make and receive calls.

>mfw steve jobs ruined the world and then died so he wouldn't have to see the world he ruined
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>>83995887
>... and that it should be used sparingly.
Its not the size of your bandwidth and computational power you have access to, its how you use it.
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>>83994447

4chan has been around since 2003. That's almost 14 years now, in October. Unless someone started using 4chan when they were 5, the oldest users are well beyond their teens now.

It's also primarily an anonymous forum. Without anonymity there can be no free speech.

You might use this place to fluff your own ego, which I don't think you'd need to do if you actually had accomplishments in your life you took pride in, but to each their own I guess.
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>>83987923
what the fuck man...it's not like we can go back. Why make me so upset...?
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>>83995980
Yeah maybe you will get called "slow retard loser" by a Chad or two today, but back in the day you get called like that by your parents, by your teacher, by your doctor, everyone.
The politically correct days of today serve us well, why would I get a job when the government pays me for doing absolutelly nothing, it's hilarious.
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>>83995521
that's black and white thinking, 0 or 100 thinking, binary thinking.

there's an unbroken line going from you back at least 10 million years to your primate ancestors. if you think the current global technological civilization is sustainable for another 10 million years, you're the moron. the industrial revolution started in about 1712, 305 years ago. and i doubt the current way of life will last another 305 years. even stephen hawking says humanity has 100 years before we go extinct.
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>>83996115
Fair enough. Just go easy on the weed. It might not do physicial harm, but you will end up alone.
t. You 10 years from now.
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>>83995990
>Cell phones should just be able to make and receive calls.

Why? You don't want the entirety of the worlds information at your fingertips at all times?
You would rather carry around a camera, a geographical map, a notepad, a pencil, some magazines, newspapers, books, a discman/walkman etc than just a single fucking smartphone?
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>>83995590
>Objectively false.
The claim was that "Everything now is better than it's ever been", not only cereal production. And BTW, climate change and drought is going to BTFO out of that.

"Several studies have shown that global crop production needs to double by 2050 to meet the projected demands from rising population, diet shifts, and increasing biofuels consumption. "

"Using ~2.5 million agricultural statistics, collected for ~13,500 political units across the world, we track four key global crops—maize, rice, wheat, and soybean—that currently produce nearly two-thirds of global agricultural calories. We find that yields in these top four crops are increasing at 1.6%, 1.0%, 0.9%, and 1.3% per year, non-compounding rates, respectively, which is less than the 2.4% per year rate required to double global production by 2050. At these rates global production in these crops would increase by ~67%, ~42%, ~38%, and ~55%, respectively, which is far below what is needed to meet projected demands in 2050."
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0066428
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>>83996151
I don't smoke weed but I already am alone. And that's the point, I get all this free shit from the country just for being alone, while back in the day you would literally be alone in your room with zero options but pretending to be a normie at all times.
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>>83988453
20 here, which doesn't say much.


Sunlight was more orange during the day when I was younger. It's closer to white now as oppose to how it used to be. Maybe it's just me.
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>>83996143
>if you think the current global technological civilization is sustainable for another 10 million years, you're the moron.
Firstly that's the idea with sustainable living, but humanity won't stay on this rock for the next 300 let alone the next 10 million. That's progress. Also human beings will plateau at 9.5 billion by 2050 and then populations will decline slowly, that's the current projection.
Everything you think you know is wrong.
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>tfw 30 years old
>can't grow a bear
>no chest hair
>looks like a teenagere
>manlet
>small dick
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>>83996231
>>can't grow a bear

You need to plant one of the cubs and water it everyday.
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>>83996211
See the projections of doom in the 1950's about food production.
Then see: Green revolution
Then see: Genetically modified crop revolution
Everything you think you know is wrong.
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>>83995643

If life expectancy "everything"? Plus, an aging population means more people. And also caring for an older population.

The world population was 1 billion in 1804. After 123 years...
the world population was 2 billion in 1927.
the world population was 6 billion in 1999.
the world population was 7 billion in 1999.
the world population will be 11.2 billion by 2100.

If you think refugees are bad now, just wait until "climate refugees."
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>>83995716
>What is your current biggest problem?

Not being able to buy a house and provide for a family on a single income?
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>>83987923
Yeah, op. I bet being 5 in the 70s was pretty badass.
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>>83995725
>People today live longer, enjoy more sustenance, are healthier and are even more intelligent than at any other time in human history.
>I'm very glad they don't make em like they used to, because they used to be shit.

Humans have existed 300,000 years. The way people live now is not sustainable for another 300,000 years. Why the fuck do you think Elon Musk wants to build a penal colony on Mars (which is what it will be, because it will be a one way trip)?
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>>83995937
You might have been less retarded with the higher test levels and unfucked estrogen back then anyway.
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>>83995736
Evolution is still a thing. So superbugs now exist. And it was evolution that gave rise to immune systems to begin with. You're acting like the mortality rate being lower is a good thing. The planet is not infinite.
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>>83996294
https://web.archive.org/web/20160205063346/http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/sixbillion/sixbilpart1.pdf
Demography: Analysis and Synthesis, Four Volume Set: A Treatise in Population. Academic Press. p. 42.
"Population Growth over Human History", University of Michigan. January 4, 2006.
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>>83995781

The climate is artificial now, like a skating rink is artificial. One good thing about that though, is that there are people who can be sued.
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>>83996221
>his memories have a pass filter
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>>83995802

A rainbow is refractive light. That's why homosexuals claiming rainbows as their own is so selfish.

There is almost nothing in common before lesbians, bisexuals, gays, and transgender people. You could argue they're all fags, but only in an abstract sense. Now apparently some people want to add brown. To a rainbow.
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>>83995832
>Today almost every human has access to the entirety of history and knowledge, and all at our fingertips. Truly we are as gods.

Then why won't humanity last another 1,000 years?
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>>83996347
>The way people live now is not sustainable for another 300,000 years.
Of course not. Cleaner, smarter and responsible, that is what is happening.

>>83996474
>Then why won't humanity last another 1,000 years?
I think humanity and descendants will probably last another billion years personally.
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>>83996387
Sooooooo what you're saying is that we actually want a higher mortality rate?
So start and kys please.
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>>83996173
>You don't want the entirety of the worlds information at your fingertips at all times?

But that's not true. The problem is when people think if it's not on the Internet, it's not real, it's not a thing, it didn't happen.

The map is not the territory. When people unplug for the Internet, maybe for a month at a time, they realize how much the Internet doesn't cover. But they get anxious, feel like they're missing out, feel like they're being left behind, so obsessively keep pressing a button like a mouse and cocaine.

And women were much better behaved before smartphones.
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>>83996474
Who cares, you will live for around 70 more years while if you were born in the 60s/70s you would live for atleast 10 years less
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>>83989900
It's not "Chinese asphalt", it's cheaper construction. Potholes are mostly caused by bad quality earthmoving.
Suboptimal compression causes the asphalt to bend and end up cracking.
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Fuck you OP, now I'm even more depressed than I was 5 minutes ago.

I've wasted so much of my life on the internet. And it's integral to life now, so I can't just get rid of it.
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>>83996546
>"But that's not true."
>doesn't provide a single argument why it isn't true

Tell me any real world fact or information that isn't on the Internet. I'll wait.
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>>83996225

Yes, humanity will stay on this rock in the next 300 years, if they don't lead to their own extinction. Everything else is Star Trek bullshit.

Humans evolved to live on this planet. Earth. Humans did not evolve to live in space. Humans did not evolve to live with other levels of gravity. Humans did not evolve to live at other distances from the Sun, which different temperatures, different conditions, different radiation levels. Scott Kelly spent a year in space and it ravaged his body.

And if human women cannot give birth off-planet, all your fantasies are just that, make believe science-fiction.

Earth is humanity's only spaceship.
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>>83996546
One smart phone has more computational power than was available on the entire planet in 1950.
Wikipedia has more information than was available in the entire Library of Alexandria.
That people do not know how to use information and its accompanying computational power is a testament to their ignorance, but that doesn't mean that iits not the greatest advent of elevation in human history.
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>>83990128
Yeah, fuck socializing and meeting new people, right?
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>>83996273
We know a lot more about climate change now. Oh, and Roundup causes causer, speaking of GM crops.
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>>83987923
Sound like some pretty shitty times my man.

You're acting like everything was completely pure and healthy 30 years ago when kids ate neon bright chemicals for candy (sodas also) and the adults popped various unknown pills and put cancer inducing hairspray on their head etc.
The only thing that was "cleaner" back then was cocaine.
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>>83996407

Well, predictions differ, but either way, that's billions more people.

World population likely to surpass 11 billion in 2100
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/08/150810110634.htm
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>>83996508
>I think humanity and descendants will probably last another billion years personally.

Then you live in a fantasyland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_catastrophic_risk
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The West is heading towards massive social unrest.
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>>83987923
>You could lie and tell stories as though they were the truth and people would believe you and they never found out otherwise.
You can still do that much more than you might think.

>The water cleaner
Lol no, this is one respect in which things have changed for the better.
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I hate how people here passionately argue about surface-level politics with whole novels for posts along with all the statistical information attached in a pic but can't form a single buzzword-free sentence about actual Television & Film except REDDIT PLEB KINO PARTY ROCKERS AM I RIGHT.

I don't even know why I'm still here.
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>>83996776
it's called diversity, grandpa
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>>83987923
>tfw born in '91
At least I spent the majority of my childhood off the internet, didn't even give a shit about it until I was 15 or so. The only thing I hate about the internet is how it changed popular culture. I haye seeing ads with memes in them, I hate watching celebrities talk about their fucking Twitter or whatever. I hate seeing everything reference social media and I hate how the connectivity has made it almost compulsory to use shit like Facebook or you're a weirdo.
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>>83996776
what do you mean "headed"
its been that way for the past 50 years
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>>83996776
Says the guy posting on /pol/
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>>83996803
Americans are the biggest kikes in the world, thanks for fucking up the west because you felt bad for owning niggers and bombing pakis.
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>>83996793
>You can still do that much more than you might think.
How?
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>>83996809
No, it hasn't.

You US do not know what real social unrest that shakes the very governing system looks like.

>>83996816
Says the guy living in one of the most peaceful societies on the planet that has went through multi-ethnic and multi-culture liberal democracy period.
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>>83996995
the height of western civilisation was in the 1800s
t. /his/tard
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>>83995781

Here in Gothenburg it rains a lot more than it used to, mostly because the ocean is hotter and creates more clouds. The result is that almost every morning in winter, the entire city is blanketed in a thick as fuck fog.

The best of when I work overtime on the weekends and start at 6am. Nobody else is outside and I'm just walking through foggy industrial areas.
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>>83987923
I'm jealous though I am doing my best to avoid technology as anything other than a tool.
I realize I'm shitposting on a taiwanese business forum but I'm just killing time at work and already finished my magazine. I try not to touch my computer during free time.
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>>83988364
No it wasn't and people actually had attention spans.
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>>83992602
Nigga that doesn't have anything to do with it besides if things are made shittier they would have to be replaced more often so that would cost more resources.
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>>83989622
>muh speshul place invaded by muh parentz1#@!
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/tv/ - television & film
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>>83998871
>>83996800
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>>83987923
Hello, fellow caveman. It was a better world.
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>>83998096
You think the people selling cheap-ass, disposable shit give a hot damn about resources?
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"no matter where you go there you are"

DESTROY THE INTERNET
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>>83987923
this thread has made people born in the 90s jelly

they do not know what life was meant to be

the internet is the worst invention in the history of the world
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Unsurprisingly, technology evolved faster than we did. You can absolutely guarantee that those in power hold the key to the next industrial revolution, but we as humans are not ready to take that leap again, which has now widened to a gapong chasm.

Imagine what kryptom would be like if Zod brought it back and left the sun in tact. A world of superbeings who individually are strong enough to destroy a planet. This is obviously exaggerated, but the logic is the same if powerful technologies were suddenly thrust upon us. We would destroy each other without hesitation

That is why we are being conditioned. Why men are turning effeminate. We cannot live in a world of such technology when our basic instincts call for violence.

We are living in one big pre-revolution experiment
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>>83987923

I'm 27 and I vaguely remember a lot of this stuff before it faded away. My dad said you would spend entire nights in pub arguing about dumbs facts, and since there was no google the argument would never be solved. It sounded funny.
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>>83988196
it hasn't really changed that much. you didn't miss out. Althougj people being on their phones all the time out in public is annoying
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>>83999746
keep pretending you know what life was like before the internet ruined everything
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>>83991154
>ive gotten clean so many times that withdrawals are so normal to me. im 3 days without dope right now, actually.

mate i don't think you even know what withdrawals are. you must have not used hard or heavy or for very long. day 3 is the peak of opiate w/d and you wouldn't be having this conversation with us on 4chan, you would be in a fetal position begging for death. I would quit now mate, it can get SO much fucking worse. trust me
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>>83996633
Why do you want this? Are you a failed normalfag?
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>>83995954
>The world doesn't need more opinions, it needs less opinions
Start with your own and stop posting you massive fucking blowhard faggot, nobody gives a shit what a pseudo-intellectual has to say about DUDE FRACTALS LMAO N SHIT
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>>83999498
wow dude youre so cool and contrarian and hipster, posting about how much you hate the internet on the internet!!!

i hate technology now wtf lets go back to living in caves
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>>84001342
>Almost like how complaining about poor features in an alpha release lead to a better beta...
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>>83987923
The best thing i read in 4chan in months.
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>>83996341
>Yeah, op. I bet being 5 in the 70s was pretty badass.
Maybe they were describing the 80s? Hell, a lot of that shit applies to most of the 90s as well.
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>tfw you will never be a teenager in the 80's and experience the Madonna craze

JDISMA
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>>84004205
Blondie was way hotter
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>>84004519
Did she ever show her ass and tits like Madonna?
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>>83987923
sounds terrible
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>>84003542
Yeah, you're right me too.
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I saw some kids the other day actually calling for their friend, it was super weird. Like they didn't just call him up and have him meet outside, they were going along, went into his house, rang the doorbell and asked his mom is he was there. And get this - he wasn't fucking there. They hadn't even called ahead to see if he was there. They'd just rocked up like we used to in the vague expectation that he might actually be there. It was fucking bizarre, I tell you.
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>>84005114
Probably more than Madonna
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>>83990018
I do anon.
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>>84004519

Her new song is actually p. good desu
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>>83995660
it really wasn't. Obviously I wouldn't trade 2017 medical advances for 1986, but life balances are way off.
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>>84004519
I like that she was already 30 when Blondie formed in the mid-70s, and remained a sex icon well into the 80s. Used to be the same with movie stars. At some point during this decade or the last anyone over 27 was suddenly considered dried up hasbeen for some reason.
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>>84005114
if you were a fan she'd probably fucked you after the show instead of getting her bodyguards to beat you for seeing her tits.
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>>83995887
You sound like a pretty well balanced and nice anon, you are probably right about it, its not healthy to be obsessed with the past we just need to be healthy about the present and love what we have.

>>83995954
People just literally forgot libraries even exist, its pretty sad. If you want information that is safe and not bullshit, read BOOKS wow whoa crazy. People need to stop treating shit from websites and cable news as if its factually based, its almost always opinion based. Even Wikipedia is oftentimes a nerds opinion of facts found inside books.

>>83996221
This could be because you moved. The sun is so fucking yellow bright in Phoenix but I used to live in Oregon and its definitely another tint and UV intensity.
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>>83996633
That still happens. I see a lot of people complaining about other people using smartphones in social gatherings, but those complainers seem to forget that people only bury themselves into their smartphones when they don't enjoy the companionship. I've had great conversations with larger groups of people, strangers, without anybody looking at their phone unless it was to show others something that was related to the conversation.
Before smartphones, if people in a group didn't enjoy each other's company, they'd say nothing or force some awkward small talk about the weather or something.
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>>83988349
People who say this kind of shit are dumb. If you stop using the internet, you will be the only person not using the internet. It's like if you're an adult now and your old high school closed down and moved to a new building and the old one is just abandoned, and you tell somebody how you miss high school and they say "well just go back to that building! It will basically be the same thing!" Not only are you a different person now than you used to be because being out of high school changes you, but nobody is at that old high school anymore anyway.

If you don't use the internet nowadays, it doesn't magically go back to the way society was before the internet, it just leaves you out of society, disconnected from everybody else.
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>>84005932
>Before smartphones, if people in a group didn't enjoy each other's company, they'd say nothing or force some awkward small talk about the weather or something.
No, they would make an actual effort to find something in common or at the very least entertain each other. Now no one knows how to talk anymore, since at the first sign of "failure" they can retreat into their shells.
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>>83995389
Can you imagine replacing Nixon with Trump? He would be a literal fucking GOD back then.

Too many patriots so little to no leaks then Trump can just chill and make a wall, no healthcare in the way so he could make Trumpcare in peace, everyone would think he was dope as fuck because he had a hot daughter who wore daisy dukes, got to help Muhammad Ali get famous because he owned a boxing ring and there would be Melania vs. Jackie O debates in barbershops constantly.

The left would still be crazy and protesting and shit though but at least internet would not be there so mostly I'd just ignore it.

Economy would be awesome, he would be brutal and not GAF and just win Vietnam and left would freak out but we would change US history forever.

GOP would see that and just support him 110% rather than about 50% of today.

Ivanka would be the first female president in 1980 and I would genuinely get sick and tired of winning.
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>>83996387
>You're acting like the mortality rate being lower is a good thing
SO true, this is something people don't understand. The more of us there are, the more nature will do what it does and try to kill us off because we're fucking up the ecosystem.
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>>83992965
pre-social media internet. Myspace exploded when I was 14 and interaction hasn't been the same since. The internet was this special thing for porn and homework and vidya discussion boards, and you could get on it and get lost for a few hours without thinking about school or friends.
Now it's all connected, and it's not special anymore.
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>>84006115
this =(
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>>84006115
Guess I'm a couple years older than you, but definitely this.
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>>83995654
34 year old here. I use such expressions frequently online.
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>>84005989
More like... the USSR would maybe win the Cold War because Trump is a retard.
>he would be brutal and not GAF and just win Vietnam
The US used half-measures in Vietnam not out of some sense of ethics, but because the US didn't want to risk nuclear war with the USSR and/or China, or to give the USSR an excuse to be equally brutal in their own spheres of influence. It was also important to keep the moral high ground. Being openly brutal would have endangered the
West in the Cold War on a moral level.
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>>83995654
>No one who is 32 years old would use the phrase "is memeing". Your entire cadence of writing feels younger. I think you're lying.
You must be young as fuck. I see people wayyy older than 32 saying dumber shit online, posting chan memes etc. all the god damn time. It's pop culture now.
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>>83988349
The only way it would be similar is if you moved to the midwest or some other rural part of your country. Farmers, i.e. the only people who live there, don't use the internet at all.
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>>84007260
I live in a small town in southern MN with less than 2,000 people, surrounded my farms and fields. Everybody has high-speed wifi and Facebook accounts.
You're an idiot.
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>>84007260
I live in a farm town of 200 and everyone has internet here you're a dip
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>>84007551
>>84007587
Having the internet and using it regularly are two very different things. Most people I know from that region only use the internet to upload photos of their families to Facebook. They don't waste time on reddit and 4chan and shit. They're too busy tending to their business.
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>>83987923
Nice blog faggot
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>>83997512
>Nobody else is outside and I'm just walking through foggy industrial areas.
This is one of the many reasons I enjoy being a night owl: no fucking people. I hate being up during the day because there are way too many fucking people now. Our population exploded in the 80s and 90s and now everything sucks ass because it's so crowded and hot and smelly and dirty everywhere you go.
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>>84007650

>>84007260
>don't use the internet at all.

>wait nvm I meant dont use it as much as I do

kys yourself
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>>84008083
>i'm so autistic that i can't discern nuances in human language
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There's nothing stopping you living this life again. Imagine if it were the reverse, we had all the internet and shit then it all left
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26 here. You're all a bunch of old faggots.
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>>83991109
Liar.
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i hate these blog threads. I remember the good old days of 4chan when normies didn't belong here
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>>84008399
>26
>calling 30 year olds "old"
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>>84009340
Read the thread genius. These people sound old and beat to shit. Maybe it's because I hang out with a younger crowd (my brother is 21) but you don't have to just sound so deflated all the time.
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>>84003542
Same here. By far.
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>>83990437
Yeah, slavery, genocide, totalitarian empires, plagues, and roving bands of rapist hordes are better than Facebook
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>>83992965
I miss the times before PC cartoons
Shit like Dexter's thick mom and the racism on Looney Toons would cause an uproar in modern tv.
Sometime I hang with little cousins and see the garbage they watch and I'm just like????
I think I was the last generation to experience Mr. Rogers... damn
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Who here /prehistoric/
>tfw getting /fit/ running from hordes of sabertooth
>tfw no gf because Chad village raped her and ate her afterwards
>never had to pay for healthcare
>dead by 18, so you never had to get old and gross
>emperor decided your place in society so never had to go to school
>never had to shave because hair kept you warm after polar bears destroyed your igloo
Good times bros
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>>84010164
Had no idea that shit was going on in 1980s. Here I was thinking it was Madonna, Fast Times, Depeche Mode, and Pac Man....
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>>83989924
>>83989961
Damn. By saying the exact opposite of what "misunderstood" teens around 2010 used to comment on Youtube videos you sure come off as wise, mature and free-thinking.
Wish I could upvote on this site.
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>>83994358
>easy for women and mothers to drive and tailgate everyone on the shitty roads while they surf the internet
Got hit by one of these roasties
60k settlement paid off my school loans
God bless
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>>83987923
>You had to actually get up and drive, walk, bike to your friend's house to talk to them.

Why did we do this? We could've just called their house but we spent an hour walking or riding bikes to someones house in hopes they weren't doing something, As you would believe, we come over their parents are fighting about something and we leave on a journey for a day

Those were the times... Not to mention the movies were actually good and the stars are the greats today
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>>84010538
He said humanity, meaning all of human history
You don't get to pick and choose, faggot
>hurr I mean 20th century
Oh, you mean the century with 2 world wars, a cold war, Holocaust (inb4 good goy), segregation/lynchings, etc?
Yeah internet made everyone so callous and evil wtf
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>>84010164
Woke af!
100 100 100 100 100 100 :) :) xD xD
How tf do u emoji on this weird ass site tho?
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>>84010164
>Oh my god le killing and death so horrible!
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>>83996546
>And women were much better behaved before smartphones.
This is bait, right?
Thots have existed before time itself
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>>83992067
Tolkein recognised this trend 100 years ago and articulated it beautifully in his work. The running theme throughout LotR and Silmarillian was that of magic going out of the world. The grass seemed greener, the sky bluer, and music sweeter back in the day because it litterally was.
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>>84010629
>>84010708
>t. Reddit
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>>84010814
The decline started around 1910.
Most people would point to the fall of the third reich or the start of the first world war, but the downfall was actually ensured once voting rights for women started gaining traction in the west.
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>>84010865
>I love the world today! The past? omg ew! Oppression, racism, poverty.
>reddit
Pick two.
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>>84010895
>shorts that aren't much longer than underwear
I will never understand this
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>>83989622
Department of Defense. We operate 4chan.
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>>84011025
The real 4chan server
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>26 break smart phone
>get shitty replacement from friend
>actually like having a bare bones phone when out and about, not constantly checking it

Anyone else in their 20's getting more and more bored withthe whole social media drivel? I barely go on facebook anymore and im dreading having to get a smart phone for work reasons.
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>>83991745
>>83987923
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>>83992067
>"I’m old, Gandalf. I know I don’t look it but I’m beginning to feel it in my heart. I feel thin… sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread."
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>>83988453
Worse than all of that we now have so many foreign niggers in our countries that they are actually changing the English language. Ads on TV have actually started pronouncing it "catchup" because these nignogs are too stupid or different to learn the language. Enough.
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>>83988196
How fucking young are you?
I was born in 92 and remember life before internet quite well, then i had my teens in a glorious cross sectional time of hanging outdoors and playing Runescape as well
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I dread becoming a grandpa nostalgiafag who hates life just because it became more convinient.
There is more than one way of real time communication, boo hoo. You can still message someone on fagbook and talk in face to face, if you can't then it means that noone wants to hang out with nostalgia blackhole cunt like you.
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>>83991210

Memoirs of a guy that has had a touch screen in his hand since before he could talk.
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>>83991745

Odd how Murtaugh and family never felt like a fucking meme like they do with the race shit today.
I miss upper middle class black families in media that were normal human beings. Thank god MLK isn't seeing todays race bullshit.
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>>84014018
>You can still message someone on fagbook and talk in face to face

and that's the problem, the bulk of social contact is now only with people kids already know and in a lot of cases over a computer screen. That's NOT the same as being forced into daily interactions with tons of stranger. It's why entire an generation is a bunch of fucking aspie fucking pussies who just look at the ground around women and their phones when around men.

the fallout from a childhood of being some fat fuck 13 year old kid screaming into his Xbox every day. Pudgy loser has never left his room outside of school in 10+ years. Some out of shape blob who never plays any sports and never goes anywhere with out his 300 pound mommy watching him 24/7.

Where as 13 year old kid back in the day was riding his bike a few miles away to go play video games in a huge arcade with a bunch of random strangers. Learning how to talk to people, how to be in a group, how to just be around people. Never mind the exercise that of course your modern kid has never even heard of outside of the Wii fit that he never uses.

world has gone to shit and in many ways it's the older gen that just let it happen. That parents who is raising the aspie losers? They know better...
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>>84014894
I don't understand how people can just handwave so many systemic changes that stem from one thing, it's like they focus on the most shallow change, and everything else doesn't exist for them.
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As a kid in the 80's I rode my bmx bike for miles in any direction. Gone all day from noon to 9pm. My neighbor doesn't let his kid leave the fucking yard.
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Guess it's time to go Into the Wild
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>>83987923
Rose tinted glasses
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>>83988453
34 here.

we literally called up mates...and would plan goldeneye multiplayer. Four of us all tethered to the same machine, playing on a CRT tv with av cords...you would have to fuck around with a dial to get the reception. It was rubbish but it was awesome, no obnoxious 12 yr on your bluetooth headphones talking shit he never had to answer for, anyway, yeah porn was literally found in the woods, landlines, if you knew something cool you were a fucking genius and no one could instantly wiki it to verify.

The biggest thing is you actually had incentive to leave the house and talk to people in the real. If you wanted to hang out you had to make an effort it was a thing, bonds were stronger, friendships lasted. Now I feel everything is a little more transient and transaction. fuck you don't even really have to go out side. Rose tinted glasses sure, but pre internet days were kinda cool
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So weird to think about.
Like I'm too much of a pussy to ask a girl for her phone number, so I just send her a friend request on Facebook and she accepts it.
Without Facebook, would I have manned up and gotten her house number or address to mail stuff?
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>>83987923
Nice blog, reddit.
Upvoted, followed on Twitter, subscribed to your YouTube channel, and donated to your Patreon! :^)
Now kill yourself
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>>83992146
I love Al Bowlly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qzjmaAzQV8
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>>84013666
well you were just poor mate. different anon here, but i had internet in '88. if you can remember a time before internet(usually you don't remember shit before you were 5, so '97?) fuck you were poor. by 1997 literally everyone i knew had internet at home. there were even some pretty decent online games at that point, poor fuck
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So, basically, you people have finally witnessed the endgame of the globalists.

You'll never get your nostalgic days back if you keep resisting like they tell you to
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>>84017854
Uh, what?
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>>83991109
Liar liar pants on fire, hang him up on telephone wire!
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>>84018201
Hang them high hang them low hang them on your teacher's nose.
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>>84018201
Man this took me back. i remember singing this shit playing kick ball in the middle of the street making sure no parents heard us.
I pledge allegiance to the flag,
Michael Jackson is a fag.
Pepsi Cola burnt him up,
now he’s drinking 7-UP.
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>>83991924
>if you want you can learn anything
>if you want you can talk to anyone
>if you want you can create anything
But then again, no one does it. Remember last week when you wanted to learn Russian or whatever and you actually could but you didn't. Yeah. The problem is not that we lack something now, but that we don't know what to do with all of what we have and we are just left frustrated about what we miss out and what we know we miss out.
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I don't feel sorry for what we have today, I just fear the future.

One day all the kids here defending the internet and shit will find themselves in a holographic virtual reality world that they can't imagine, with drones flying around and shit and they will not understand how things work in the same way older adults have trouble with the internet. There will be kids in those times saying "hell, I have sex with my 3d gf and she even replies back and has a personality (like in Her) and back then people used to masturbate to webms and actually talk to people online lol" and you are just not going to feel it like you feel today.

Not to mention, of course, we are one of the last generations of people. All of the shit going on today will intensify, your neighborhood will be simultaneously extremely modern, religious fundamentalist, christian, muslim, chinese, with everyone talking through translators and shit, having everything mediated by corporations that you think are just natural occurences and everyone will be taking care of elders and running away from crisis after crisis and ecological disasters, bad health and this infantile generation we have running politics and the economy.
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>>83988739
>you will never see Blue Velvet for the first time in a kinoplex without having a clue about what it's like
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>>83991924
>>live in the second golden age of cinema
Wherever this golden age is I would like you to show me the way to it.
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The internet is both great and a detriment to society.

>>83988664
I know the smell you speak of. I remember finding scraps of pornomag on the train tracks with some friends.

It's like finding treasure.
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>>83995937
The internet and video games allow for kids to stay inside meaning they're not forced to go out and develop important social skills stunting them at a young age.
t. someone who had this happen to them.
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>>84021379
This is such a strange phenomenon. Fucking everyone has found porno mags in the woods or bushes. I grew up in a huge built up area, Anaheim, and we still came across them in random bushes.
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>>84021842
I would imagine they got picked up by the wind and were caught in the woods and bushes
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>>83991090
>i long to destroy all of this and just live like us humans should

So much.

Aside from that, I'd like to meet a guy like you, but with weed as his vice and who wants a companion. Fuck marriage... just someone to be my regular, cynical self around.
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>>84016826
There is a huge difference between video gamers now and then, and that difference stems from online play. There are many young men now who have never been over to their "friend" 's houses.
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>tfw you genuinely hope for a nuclear war to turn back the clock for the human race, before autistic luciferian literal faggot techfags in pursuit of apotheosis, succeed in creating the super-intelligent AI that will drive the human race into extinction.

If I had a nuclear bomb I would detonate it in Silicon Valley. I want to go full Sara Connor on Google headquarters.
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>>83991924
>be able to connect with 3.2 billion human beings for free
Why the fuck would anyone want that?
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>>83991924
>be able to create entire symphonies with elite tier tools for free
Bach did it with a motherfucking pen and paper, he didn't need "elite tier tools".
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I'm about the same age as the OP. There is some truth to what he is saying, but most of it is romantic nostalgia.

Old phones sucked. Paper mail sucked. Photo development times were awful. There were very few channels on TV but TV generally was terrible anyway. It's mostly terrible now as well just way more channels. The difference is there are actually some good shows now, everything we had was episodic with no character arcs. The complaints about trash and graffiti in secret spots in the wood are complaints about population density, not the internet. Water cleaner fish bigger etc are the same old man complaints;
>For the world was changing, and sweetness was gone, and virtue too. Worry had crept on a corroding world, and what was lost- good manners, ease and beauty? Ladies were not ladies anymore, and you couldn't trust a gentleman's word.”

Same stuff forever every time a generation hits their 40's.

He's right about some things. People were less distracted. They were more social. Generally I would say the big difference is we had less to worry about. There was no AIDS. There was no Islamic terror. Pretty much everyone you knew was white. (sorry genetic homogeneity is a happiness factor) It was easier to keep secrets like he said, in almost every way. But that's not always a good thing.

Generally the internet and the communication revolution is the greatest thing that ever happened. No amount of nostalgia can ever make me pretend that it isn't. I wouldn't go back if I had to have no internet. I wouldn't trade it for anything. Don't be fooled, it's better today in almost every way that matters. We lost some things yeah, but we gained more than we lost.
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>>84022838
>We lost some things yeah, but we gained more than we lost.
>You've lost all sense of community and pretty much all human creativity and labor has been devalued thanks to technology, hey at least you have an iPhone!
Die.
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>>84022838
>>Generally the internet and the communication revolution is the greatest thing that ever happened.
Why?
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>>84023113
>You've lost all sense of community

That's not because of the internet. It's because multiculturalism failed.

It's easier now to find friends with common interests than ever in history.

>pretty much all human creativity and labor has been devalued thanks to technology

Most of human creativity is bunk. It's garbage, always has been. For everyone who did something worthwhile there were tens of thousands of people who produced nothing but dreck their entire lives and thought they were geniuses. Now they just have patreon.

Labor being on it's way out means you will have more time to do whatever you want. You just have to go through the painful next two decades of convincing corporations to pay into a UBI for everyone after they automate/computerize most jobs.
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>>84023222

I really don't even understand how you can ask this question. Your life is better in nearly every conceivable way because of it.
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>>84023412
I see, any more bullshit non-arguments?
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>>84023474

I'm just being honest. The question is so nonsensical I don't even really know how to answer it. It's like someone saying "well whats so good about modern transportation, modern medicine, modern engineering" etc.
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>>84023561
Well, what's good about any of it? You clearly have no clue.
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>>84022838
>>84023357

Some of the smartest comments i've seen for some time. With all the problems that exist ( most of which have existed since forever but now can be seen unfold in almost real time), individual can do more from oneself and his/her family and chosen peers than ever if one bothers to.

It also means one can be a huge dick shitting out pure misery, but that stuff gets quite old fast, as people have far more choices to easily either tune in or out of stuff when it comes to information they receve while still being able to receive what on was looking for.
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