SPIDER MAN TRACKING LESS THAN WONDER WOMAN

AND WONDER WOMAN IS STILL GOING TO MAKE BETWEEN 35 AND 37 MILLION THIS WEEK

yeah dude, a movie with spider-man and iron man won't do well

oh the humanity

>>83978733
Estimates are now up to 370M+ total (domestic). How?

>>83978706
First tracking for Wonder Woman was 65 million

>>83978866

That was months before it opened

this is weeks from release and unless all reviews say that this is fucking amazing better than raimi shit this is about right

>>83979112
>That was months

Nope
The very first PROJECTION (not tracking) was around 80 million. But Deadline's first report (like this one for Spider-Man) was 65 million, 3 weeks before release (like Spider-Man)

http://deadline.com/2017/05/wonder-woman-domestic-box-office-opening-gal-gadot-patty-jenkins-1202089623/

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>>83979164
B-BUT...

Spider-bomb Spider-bomb
Should've stopped after Raimi was gone

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Why is /tv/ so obsessed how much money billion dollar studios make?

Another souless cashgrab micromanaged by a jew comitee.

Le upboat!

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>>83979316
If BvS didn't underperform, Warner Brothers wouldn't have raped Suicide Squad.

>>83978706
>Spiderman staring a white male in 2017?
Very problematic
Hope it fails, fuck sony and marvel

>>83979399
holy shit...was he about to pee on her?

>>83979443
Either that or he moved to stand over her while still being in the shot.

>>83979547
MOM'S GONNA FREAK

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>>83978706
JUST

>THIS IS THE MCU MOVIE THAT IS GOING TO FLOP
>PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF THE MCU
>PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF SPIDER-MAN REBOOTS

/tv/ will be wrong once again

>>83979831
i'd be worried if the MCU people had actually had any control over it, but no it's just Sony fucking up again

>Sony
>House Of Mouse

I am confused.

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Sony has run the Spider-Man brand to the ground.
Remi and Toby return when?

>>83978706 This far out from release ww was tracking around 85m. DC is over

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Man of JUST

>>83978706
This movie looks good, I think it will do better than 100m.

>>83978706
I'm not as excited for it as I should be due to the changes to Spidey, like, Tony "redesigning" his outfit and various changes to Pete's side characters. I'm going solely to see how Tom carries a movie, and to see Michael Keaton playing a villain.

>>83979998
Story wise they are on par. Literally the same formula.
I liked the action in wonder woman better, though. The slow-motion reminded me of Snyder a la 300, and not BvS.
Also WW has the better theme in the DCU

>>83980468
>Also WW has the better theme in the DCU
It's certainly memorable. My fucking 50 years old mother hums it all the time.

>>83980468
>Also WW has the better theme in the DCU
Metal and swords go hand in hand, but Superman's theme is mythic. A year ago everyone was hating on Wonder Woman's theme. Saying it was out of place. "DUDE GUITARS LMAO XD" I was one of the few who defended it. Does Wonder Woman's really make you feel anything? I like it but there's nothing grand about it. Even Batman's DUN DUN DUN DUN weeeeeoooh DUN DUN DUN theme had a villainous weight to it. WW's is just cool. Meh.

>>83978782

surprisingly good legs and weak competition

it will end up making more in the US than bvs/ss/mos but less internationally

NO ONE FUCKING WANTS ANOTHER SPIDER MAN

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LOOKS LIKE A NEW PETER PARKER IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

>>83981169
Autism

>>83981210
>it's 2025
>yet another Spider-man reboot
>Peter is a grade schooler

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>>83980468

>is she with you better than ideal of hope

>>83980468

WW gets a free pass because of the vagina. Movie was boring as fuck, but no one wants to rate is low because they'd be ostracized.

>>83981210

good tom holland is shit. when will we get a spiderman that doesn't have to fake a shitty accent.

Tracking is usually within 20%, it has been a weak summer though. Spiderman will make more internationally than every DCEU movie bar BvS.

>>83981235
This. You can tell even Patty Jenkins doesn't like that theme but it had to be in the movie. It just emphasizes "hurr WW is a warrior" when she doesn't want that to be the most proeminent quality of Wonder Woman.

Just because it sticks doesn't mean it's good.

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>>83981327
>Just because it sticks doesn't mean it's good.

It does, actually. There aren't many memorable capeshit themes now. The fact that the Wonder Woman theme is the only memorable theme in all of the MCU and DCEU is telling.

>>83981932
Why the revisionist history? Nobody called Man of Steel's theme unmemorable until this filler Wonder Woman movie came out. It's not as if nobody saw Cavill's Superman movies.

>>83981983
>Nobody called Man of Steel's theme unmemorable

No, because they didn't know it had a theme. I don't know it, normies don't know it. If you can't hum it on the street it isn't memorable

>>83979316
/v/edditors bringing their console war here

>>83978706
Sony's money is on the line here, not Disney's.

>>83982007
>if your throat can not copy an orchestra then the theme doesn't count
HAHAHHAHAHA enjoy that electric cello faggot

>HELP ME MAKE MONEY TONY
>Tony doesn't help

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Why are Japs saving western culture while the mouse makes Spidey interbreed?

>>83982043

Disney owns merchandising rights for Spiderman, they're invested both financially with toy/licensing sales and with quality control because the fucking face of the MCU is essentially being advertised as a co-lead in this flick

Remember when Wonder Woman was going to flop too?

These threads are cancer

>>83982090

stop reminding me that the mcu literally ruined MvC

>>83979399
If the movie was just the cast in full costume in makeup being raped for real it probably would've been a better movie

>>83982090
I find it amazing that anime like Tiger and Bunny and BnHA do capeshit better than actual capeshit.

>>83982158
because you only read capeshit (marvel/DC) and shonenshit. Maybe your should read some real fucking comic books instead you child.

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>>83982223
>implying non Big 2 comics are REAL superhero comics

YEAH I SURE LOVE INVINCIBLE

>>83982148
What happened?

>>83981932
I still have PURPLE LAMBORGHINI WUB WUB stuck in my head

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>>83982090
>tfw pretty much the only non-sjw-propaganda female lead and actually one of the best new series published by numarvel is drawn by a jap

really activates your almonds
it's almost like they understand that girls look most appealing when they actually look like girls and not masculine bulldykes

>>83979998

>it took gotg 2 11 days to get 248 mil

rut roh

>>83982479

it wont get close to gotg2 domestic or international

>>83982551
Now you jinxed it

wow I was really hoping that this next installment of superhero screenwriter madlibs was going to make a real whole lot of money

>>83979112
>better than raimi shit
Alright way to give yourself away faggot

>>83982291
Besides the gameplay changes, the entire Marvel roster (save for a few) is all MCU related or about to receive a film release in the near future. No X-men, no Spidey. It's hilarious because Marvel entertainment is doing this stupid promotion bullshit when they got kicked out of Hollywood almost 2 years ago.

the movie isn't even close to out yet, how could we possibly know

no one's even freabkin seen the dang thing

>>83982957
>no one's even freabkin seen the dang thing
Test audiences are standard

>>83978706
DCfag here,

Spiderman will do better.

Marvel fan here,

I'm not a fag, and the new Spider-Man will "flop".
Bring Tobey back to the series.

>>83982971
and they've never been wrong before, huh

oh wait they're wrong pretty much just about, every, time

Huh

Marvelbro here,

I can't wait for more Chris Evans gifs that this movie will provide. I post his images without any arguments beyond greentexting and I am happy to keep that standard.

>>83979255

You know sony's won oscars for spider-man, right?

>>83978706
Because people don't want 3 reboots of the same shit in a decade. WHO KNEW

>>83979316

/tv/ thinks it knows what audiences want. Money is just a tracking method to how many people went to see it. /tv/ is almost always wrong in how popular something is, as /tv/ is completely disconnected from the mass populace. Movies aren't made for us and people generally get mad about that all the time and it makes them feel more isolated and alone when a movie they wanted to fail makes a lot of money.

That said, I think spider-man will have over 135m opening weekend.

>>83982551
Now it's gonna happen for sure. Good job.

>>83983165
>People don't want 2 bad reboots of the same shit in a decade
Fixed. If the movie is actually good, people won't mind.
Also, Spidey 1 came out in 2002 and 3 came out in 2007.

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WW was tracking at 65m.

>>83981193
>gadot
>surprisingly good legs
kek my dude

>>83983748
It keeps overperforming day after day. Literally tracking 370+ millions in the US at the moment, that's insane for something that /tv/ deemed a flop ("no one will watch it, who cares about WW").

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>le movies have to make money to be good meme
We were doing this shit on Dark Horizons and Ain't it Cool News in 1996

>>83979998
Man of Steel came out in 2013, if you account for inflation then it made much more in todays dollars.

>>83983812
These movies are made with the express intent of making money. So when they fail to do so they fail completely, since they didn't set out to do anything else. A film like the Nice Guys which was very well made but failed due to poor marketing can still be seen as a success in terms of film-making even if the commercial side was a failure. If a film like BvS or Spiderman fails, it does so because it's a complete failure.

>>83978706
People aren't flocking to see the 6th spiderman movie in 15 years, including the 2nd in 3 years? weird...

>>83978706
Shit its almost like people dont want to watch Spider-Mans origin story for the 3rd time in 15 years

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>>83984089
You don't get it. Suicide Squad didn't have to be good or make box office. They just had to move product at Hot Topic.

People act like these comic book movies will "go away" like Westerns if a single one flops, but we've been acting like that since Batman and Robin rubbed it's nipples in our faces.

Is Wonder Woman actually considered a success? By blockbuster standards, it's been a nice little success considering its budget but it hasn't even broken 500 mil yet.

That cheesy King Kong movie made more than.

>>83984172
To be fair, SUPPOSEDLY, it's not an origin story.

>>83984214
>Is Wonder Woman actually considered a success?
Yeah, because it's overperforming.

>>83984238
That's what Civil War was for desu
He said he made his own stuff.
Tony gives him the suit
So we can assume we wont have a 5 minute scene of him using a sketch pad in his room and then figuring out how to use his web

>>83984172
And the marketing is basically here's Iron-man with his little friend who has spider-abilities. I have no idea why you would emasculate your biggest name like that.
>>83984203
Suicide Squad wasn't a commercial failure. It didn't do as well as expected but still did enough. A commercial failure is Passengers. If you think that a capemovie failing as hard as Passengers did won't change the landscape you're wrong.

>>83983795
i dont get how anyone thought it would flop WW is a household name

>>83984203
Why didn't you scream Hot Topic when Emo Joker came out in 2008? Since when did tattoos and cocaine = hot topic?

>>83984313
I guess I'm agreeing with you? Suicide Squad can make less than it costs to produce and market as a theatrical film, but the bluray/download/merch side, which is tracked in different cost centers for tax purposes, make movies look less successful than they actually are.

Mike Myers says he's still never seen the Austin Powers 1 rental numbers, but he suspects they were in the hundreds of millions.

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>Transformers was supposed to destroy Wonder Woman
>destroys Spiderman instead
How will Marvelkeks ever recover?

>>83984391
A lot of people genuinely thought that people would not want to watch a female-led movie. /tv/ does this kind of doublethink quite regularly. They'll say all people are racist and misogynist inside which is why we don't have female and black leads but when we do get one and they're successful it's the jews shaping society.

>>83984420
Not disagreeing. Nolan knew to make a weird "le edgy" Joker as early as 2006 (leaving calling cards).

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>>83981198
I want another Raimi Spider-Man...

>>83984420
>"goth gangsta"
>not quintessentially hot topic

>>83984469
>Transformers was supposed to destroy Wonder Woman


Find me ONE source that says that.

Nobody gives a fuck about Transformers. Its been downhill since first one.
Wonder woman, in current year and during Trumps administration, was always going to be a hit box office wise.

>>83984469
>>destroys Spiderman instead

Except it won't.

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>>83984521
Dont we all anon

>>83984524
What is Goth about Suicide Squad?

>>83984807
Was talking about Leto's Joker.

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>HOW IS THIS HAPPENING TO ME!

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>>83984807
I miss it when Robert Wuhl was in these movies

>>83985219
Do you know what Goth is you homo millennial

>>83978706
daily reminder:
Disney wants Spiderman to flop
so they can buy it from Sony when they collapse

Spider-Man is gonna open huge. 150m.

>>83985363
Do you know who Marilyn Manson is you homo post-millenial?

>>83978706
This movie needs $1B just to break even.

It's certified DEAD ON ARRIVAL.

>>83980158
>This movie looks good

are you serious?

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>>83984560
>Nobody gives a fuck about Transformers.

>>83985501
> Even with Sony dragging the franchise through the mud for the last decade (literally), all of their films have made around 700 million at worldwide box office.
> Every film RDJ/Iron Man has been featured in since Avengers has grossed at least $1 billion. Disney has extensively featured him in the marketing for Homecoming.
Does anyone really think this is going to do poorly?

>>83984560
> nobody gives a shit about transformers

Chinks eat that shit up

>>83978706
How much does Spiderman need to break even?

>>83986263
The marketing budget must be insane im seeing it everywhere, was all over the nba playoffs

>>83978782
No they're not. It still stops before $300 or before $325. People over estimate blindly without factoring future weeks not all being the same haul.

>>83978706
Conservative estimates. WW was expected to be between $60 and $65. Positive reviews and week competition pushed it up higher. SS made so much because it rode 6+ weeks of no competition. WW's benefit of week Pirates and The Mummy gave it a boost. Cars 3, Despicable Me 3, TF5 eat at its possible hauls in future weeks.

Want funny? Rough Night dropped from $30 to $35 to teens this weekend in predictions.

>>83986524
>I'M GOING TO WATCH THE NBA FINALS WITH MR STARK!

>>83986590
>Want funny? Rough Night dropped from $30 to $35 to teens this weekend in predictions.
Thats what teens watch these days?

>>83978706

It's a reboot of a reboot, lmao who gives a shit about Spiderman's origins at this point. We already know what happened. No Raimi, no Toby, no sale

>>83986263
it would have to lose about a billion somehow to offset the merchandising and the success of the MCU sof ar.

>>83986003
nobody white cares about Transformers

>>83981210
If Raimi and Tobey teamed up to make Spidey 4 as a one last ride movie, people will lose their shit ad start queing up tonight.

>>83984420
2004-2009 was emo season

Hot topic was hot shit back then

>>83978706
Fucking everyone is getting the impression that this is Iron man 4 featuring Spider Man and nobody wants that.
I really hope the trailers are misleading.

>>83987149
I dont know man, I just dont see any excitement behind this film.

It doesnt help that the trailers and tv spots have spelled out the whole film for you.

Usually spiderman films are a tentpole event. This feels nothing like it. Almost as if it was cheaply put together to kill Sony's future with spiderman.

>>83978782
The Mummy was so shit that theaters are putting Wonder Woman back into IMAX

>>83986238
Nice meme. China only watched 4, they didn't watch the other three.

>>83978706
People are sick of Spider-Man. This is his second reboot in 5 years, and the movie got hijacked by Iron Man. Nothing about this movie resembles Spider-Man aside from the costume of the main character. He's got the Donner curse now where everyone was exposed to the Raimi movies, so everything else will be shit by comparison.

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>>83981198
I just want my Sinister Six movie already. Denied two times.

>>83982291
They removed the X-Men from the game. It'd be like if Capcom removed the Street Fighter characters over some petty bullshit.

>>83986263
at least a billion

>>83988886
I wouldn't be sick if they just stopped fucking rebooting him. I mean theres so much cooler Spider-Man shit like Ben Riley or Kaine they could go into except these wannabe comic nerds dont even know about them so nobody would watch it

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Also, WB managed to make a better Disney princess movie than Disney did this year.

>>83978706
When Logan and Wonder Woman released. As the both of them have proven even to normies how run of the mill Disney-Marvel movies are in comparison.

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>>83984470
>A lot of people genuinely thought that people would not want to watch a female-led movie.
>They'll say all people are racist and misogynist inside which is why we don't have female and black leads
>not watch a female-led movie
>we dont have female and black leads
are you fucking deluded, do we need to list all the fucking female and black lead movies yet again?

>>83989095
Except WW is a Marvel movie, its literally just a shitty Captain America

>>83978706
>WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE HOUSE OF MOUSE WAS ENDED?!?
You mean when capeshit and sjw finally ended vomies?

>>83986729
>who gives a shit about Spiderman's origins at this point

this doesnt have spider-mans origins you stupid fuck

Wonder Woman fucking ended the entire Marvel cinematic universe. Even X-Men is done at this rate.

Wonder woman has been shilled so hard on this board it's not even transparent

>>83984313
BvS was the one that underperformed. Suicide Squad did better than expected.

>>83989307
Reading comprehension's not your strong suit is it? People on here are always saying that female and black lead movies aren't liked by the public because they're racist and sexist on the inside. That's why everyone wanted Star Wars' lukewarm Chinese reception was lauded, why Get Out was shat on, why Ghostbusters failure was celebrated. And also why WW was expected to fail. This is not about old films (which are considered to be free of PC/Jewish manipulation) it's about new films.

Female and Black lead movies are still in the minority. Going by percentages alone somewhere around 57% of leads should be black or female. I'm not saying this should actually be the case but relative to the population it's true.

>>83983662
They know opening weekend box office within 5% the week before it opens. If its current max projection is 108 then there is literally 0% chance it will even reach 120. Why the fuck do you think you know better than complex algorithms that are consistently proven to be accurate?

>>83978706
I hope so. Too much social justice bullshit got shoehorned into this movie.

>>83979316
We're just waiting for any sign of capeshit slowing down.

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>>83989923
>comprehension's
comprehensions's what?

>>83984420
Are you kidding me? Hot Topic was fucking "Why So Serious" central. The only difference is back then Hot Topic wasnt full blown mainstream. With Letos Joker it caters to all these fuckin glow stick, gold teeth, faggots who listen to trap core.

>feminist jew device is grossing more than fat-acceptance jew device
how exciting
tell me when raimi does Spider-Man 4

>>83990008
>They know opening weekend box office within 5% the week before it opens
Well it's not the week before it opens, is it? Moron.

>>83978782
It's a good movie

>>83988968
they need to do 2 things

>Stop the fucking reboots
I mean honestly Garfields Spiderman was tolerable but it ran into my second point
>Stop having multiple villians
Everything about them is fucking terrible. From choice in casting to their final outcome of the character. They made Harry/Green Goblin a fucking joke. and "Yo! Yo, Im Electro" are you fucking serious?

>>83978706
because the plot is bs noone want to see teen peter parker , his aunt may be hot but if they wanted to make it good they should had gone the reimi way

What if this is all part of the Mouse's plan?
Like what if all these stupid decisions are just Disney letting Sony make a bunch of stupid choices, so that the movie will fail (as in, no preform as well as it should), so that Sony cops heat for this and Disney can swing in, offer to buy the rights back and then make a "proper" Spider-Man movie that be loved by audiences?

and I'm sure the fact that everyone is sick to death of spiderman has nothing to do with it

>>83982403
>one of the best new series
That's not saying much because everything new is irredeemably shit. Including Gwenpool. I'm glad it flopped.

>>83979316
As egotistical manchildren, channers are desperate to have their opinions vindicated by data they can't understand.

>>83981169
what was the point of this post

>>83978706
Honestly there's just so much cooler shit with peter parker than lmao he's a teen wow aunt may, wow with great power etc...

Make a spidey movie when he's an alpha chad thundercock college professor and he has to deal with truly being a hero alongside daredevil.

This shit is tired.

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>>83989531