Worst season so far. That last episode was so poor. Varga and

>>83934692
There are literally 0 likeable characters. How did they do that?

Is s03e09 (Aporia) meant to have a run time of only 34:20, or have all the streaming sites fucked up?

>>83935506
No it's meant to be 34 minutes, the finale is longer to make up for it

>>83935506
it has 48 min

Lorne Malvo spinoff[/spinoff]

>>83934692

It's been a little inconsistent and...unfocused, maybe? But for some reason it's been one I've enjoyed the most, I just hope it doesn't end in favor of MEWs character, because that would suck.
>>83935506
It's 48

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>>83935559
>[/spinoff]

>>83934692
I liked how MEW could outsmart a mafia boss because she's a fucking bridge player

Also love how mommy cop and some traffic police nobody cracks the case while the dumb men in charge holds them back

>>83935506
found the wannabe pirate
stay a fleet cuck by all means

>>83935601
holy shit yoko ono was like the ugliest gook
this faggot had to catch a bad case of yellow fever to be attracted to that, compare her to the qt in the background walking with the hobo

>>83935725
>I liked how MEW could outsmart a mafia boss because
he's poorly written.

>>83935506
the fact that ive seen more than one person bring this up really makes me question the average age and iq of this board.

>>83935725
she acquired knowledge from the wandering jew

>>83935810
What are you even trying to say?

>>83935841
he was a fucking cunt and she was a sociopath, only raisen

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>when Gloria said she was like the robot

>>83935881
I'm saying the FLEET release got nuked and KILLERS released a PROPER

>>83935882
>only raisen
what did he mean by this?

>>83935943
That was truly atrocious

so nikki gave varga a day to get the money
he doesn't
so she dumped the stussey finances on the irs?

>>83936032
it wasn't though, and I was memeing by posting that
good job on biting the b8 and outing yourself as a contrarian faggot though
the beauty of it is her realizing it and saying it out loud

if anything the atrocious part was when she gets recognized by the sensors. That will be her demise though, Varga will see her now.

>>83934692

Varga is the best villain they've had so far pleb, he's so disconcerting and vile like an actual sociopath, rather than le unbeatable badass Malvo just like from my japanase animes.

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>>83935506
>streaming

>>83935725
>>83934692
Yea Nikki started off like such a cool character, but now she's gone full Mary Sue with mutefag acting as fan service.

Season 1 had the cop pair as the good guys with everyone else grey, stupid or evil.

Season 3 has gone full good vs evil with a bit of grey mixed in. The intrigue and surprises are almost gone.

>>83936094
The bit with him picking his teeth with the metal toothpick actually made me feel sick. That hasn't happened to me in a long time.

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there was literally nothing wrong with this episode, writing or otherwise. you literally cannot reply to my post proving otherwise. go ahead, try

>>83936170
>Nikki started off like such a cool character, but now she's gone full Mary
BRAVO NOAH
now she will find the kitten and divorce it

>>83936233
dumb frogposter

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>the absolutely staggering number of plebs in this thread and the previous one

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>>83936299
not an argument

do people leave their sprinkler systems on in minnesota when theres snow on the ground?

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>>83936280

>>83936351
>(mew)
BRAVO NOAH
R
A
V
O

N
O
A
H

>>83936303
>when you're trying to eat ice cream but find out Trump took two scoops

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>>83936328
>implying I was arguing

>>83936351
Emmy bait

>>83936388
>when youre from facebook
go back there please you fucking faggot

Season went to shit when based Sy went into coma.

>>83936075
Don't know what you're talking about in terms of taking bait but I thought it was bad

>>83936233
teleporting characters

>>83936459
do they meme about the two scoops on faceberg?

>>83936574
doesn't happen

>>83936576
fucking footfags

>>83936621
prove it

>>83936669
uhhh that's not how it works buddy
burden of proof is on you
otherwise it's your headcanon

>>83936669
burden of proof is on (you)

>>83934692
>Compare Varga to any of the Gerhardts or Malvo
Malvo was a terrible villain desu. He was wrapped up in so much plot armor that it's amazing he could even move.

It's not fair to compare Malvo (or Varga) to anyone from Season 2, though. Season 2 was just too based.

>>83936694
>>83936699
mew walks away from varga, wrench appears seconds later. unless you can explain what happened to memeboy

>>83936733
mew was talking to varga for some time after they showed wrench with meemo. he could have easily knocked meemo out and then taken an elevator down to the lobby in 2 minutes

It seems to me the pitch for fargo was just a setup for the show the pitchers actually wanted to make. As evidenced by the fact it completely ran out of ideas before the first season ended.

>>83936712
>reddit spacing
>Season 2 was just too based.
you have to go back

>>83936844
not that guy, who is retarded about malvo, but season 2 is the best season. not by much but it ekes out season 1 by just a hair

>>83936799
why didn't they show that? next time we see him he's right as rain, they could have given him a black eye or something

>>83936866
>Why don't tv shows just put up a minute by minute feed of each characters exact movements because I'm too dumb to make inferences

>>83936899
didn't say that

>>83936866
Because anyone with a brain doesnt give a shit. Did you need meemo to blow the couples brains out on camera in slow motion last episode to piece that together as well?

>>83936860
season 2 was a joke

>>83936931
it seems lazy, that's all, sorry for triggering you

>>83934692
>hurr durr four guys named Stussy were murdered in unusual circumstances but there's nothing unusual about the case

Man, there were retarded cops in the other seasons but now...

>>83936945
you're the lazy one in this scenario, you want others (the filmmakers) to surmise for you

>>83934692
>>83935725
>>83936170
>>83936280
women are cool and can do badass shit. deal with it virgin losers

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>>83934692
>it was a summer wedding, and mostly mosquitos were the guests

that line was borderline Vinceposting

>>83934692
I agree, this season fucking sucks. I loved the film, liked season 1 and want to make love to season 2. This is such a letdown, christ. Kept waiting for something interesting to happen but only good thing so far has been Leeland "Wandering Jew" Palmer

>>83936980
it wouldn't have killed them to give memey some kind of injury to give us a visual inference, it's stupid for wrench to leave him unscathed anyway, stay mad though that i made a small observation

>>83936989
Varga posting should be a thing.
*picks teeth, making his gum's bleed* Y'see, Mr. Anon, you don't have any clue of the affairs you're meddlin' in.

>>83936968
The cops in the other seasons had reasoning to excuse their retardation, which is why I can't help but think he is Varga's man.

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>>83934692
they could at very least have given us some lesbian fan service for sticking through this pile of shit for 9 episodes

>>83936989
who said it and when? I missed it

>>83936866
>Have a seat at picnic table during lunch break
>See a guy in a red jacket walk into a store
>Continue eating
>30 minutes later I see the same guy in the red jacket walking out of a different store
WHAT THE FUCK DID HE FUCKING TELEPORT HOW THE FUCK DID HE FUCKING GET FROM ONE PLACE TO THE OTHER

>>83936733
At the beginning of the episode Memo did teleport into the kitchen when he stabbed that Stussy in the neck. I was a bit underwhelmed at that scene because of that. And people thought Malvo and Hanzee were too superhuman.

>>83937032
>hurr durr am i silly spoonfeed me because i can't surmise
the absolute state of redditor tourists

>>83936351
..Bane?

>>83937139
>"reddit"
>waaaaa you cant criticise something i like your just too dumb to understand it

>>83936945
you honestly sound like a moron. it's not lazy at all, it would waste screentime showing something anyone with a brain the size of a walnut should have been able to piece together easily

>>83937270
i'm not saying it was necessary, and how does showing meemo with an injury waste screen time when we see him later in the episode?

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>>83936945
surmise

Nikki is about to get fucked. She's almost used up all her 9 lives. She's throwing away her divine intervention for revenge. And now she is trying to take away something that Vargas loves. Even though he doesn't love anything.

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>>83937303
You don't see it, do you?

>>83937113
>man with red jacket literally does teleport in the episode
kys

>>83937094
Hopefully this is the reason but other than Shea Whigham the other cop is a literally retarded. He obviously hasn't told Gloria his encounter with Yuri yet.

In S1, Saul Goodman was friends with John Watson so he was slightly blind to what was going on. Plus he got easily distracted but as the evidence piled up he saw shit was going on.
Key and Peele were retards too but they knew they were onto something.

In S2, any cop not Patrick or Ted were inept but they established that the other cops were semi-corrupt to the Gerhearts or at least shitscared of the family to do anything. Also it's likely Kansas City influenced them. But when shit hit the fan they couldn't ignore anything anymore could they?

Next week is last episode. By this time the other seasons cops had wised up. Hopefully Noah Hawley doesn't handwave this away.

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>>83934692
>>83935725
>>83936170
>>83936280
>wtf nikki is a mary sue how could she outsmart varga just by being a bridgeplaye???
holy shit are you retarded? it's because she's an ex-con that has displayed extreme craftiness the ENTIRE season. the first fucking episode she's shown to have rented the place she lives in under a fake name and disguise so she can bail if need be, as well as memorized the steps it takes to get from her room to the front door to kill Maurice. Not to mention she was the driving force behind all the craftiness she and Ray pulled on Emmit.

For fuck's sake they literally spell it out for you IN THE ENCOUNTER!

Varga:
>now these bridge tournaments, I'm guessing they were an amateur event
(OBVIOUSLY UNDERESTIMATING HER AS SOMEONE THAT HAS NO CLUE WHAT SHE'S DOING)

Nikki:
>semiprofessional, actually
(OBVIOUSLY ALLUDING TO THE FACT THAT SHE IS COMPETENT DUE TO HER EXPERIENCE BEING AN EX-CON)

jesus christ use your two or three brain cells before being a fucking idiot please

>>83934692
Loved he first two seasons.
Dropped this season after 4 episodes or so, it's SHIT

>>83937416
every cop in the cabin at the start of episode 9 besides Hank and Lou were fucking stupid, and not for the reasons you listed; they just thought they could handle everything despite Lou telling them they couldn't because of how big a shitshow it was.

and Donny's excuse is that he is literally a retard, far more than better caul saul was in season 1. that's a major point of his "character," it shows how underequipped the eden valley police were before the new sheriff came into town that they were working out of a library and half their staff were fucking retarded

>>83937418
she also was dumb enough to leave a tampon in the apartment, she only managed to not get ID'd because of the cops being too useless to know better

>>83937418
Well yeah, even though Varga was probably trolling her he did keep adding zeros to her imaginary check in her favor.

The whole point of Nikki is that she's constantly assumed to be just some dumb slut with a shitty accent but she's actually sincere and smart.

>Everyone thinks she's a slut using Emmett, but she's actually in love
>Everyone thinks she's dumb but she's winning or drawing every encounter
>Everyone thinks she's going to run away if they scare her but it just makes her angrier and more determined

>>83937487
>dumb enough
she did it on purpose, you really think cops are going to run a dna test on a bloody tampon for a breaking and entering job that barely stole anything? protip, they wont

>>83937545
>protip
lol fuck off

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>>83936988
>if you attack a woman you're a misogynist
fuck off roastie
do you defend Rosie and Hillary too?

>>83937560
back to r.eddit

>>83936075
>the atrocious part was when she gets recognized by the sensors
Faggot can't see the symbolism of washing one's fucking hands

>>83937545
I'm not talking about THAT tampon, I'm talking about the one in the apartment, in the basket

>>83937560
not an argument

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>>83936576
>long toes

>>83937576
Back to Yahoo Answers with your """"pro"""tips".

>>83937582
>the symbolism of washing one's fucking hands
stop being such a tryhard

>>83937591
even less reason for the cops to id scan that place for things to test for DNA. they only run dna tests on suspects, not freak accident air conditioners falling out of their places
>>83937608
protip was on 4chan before it went anywhere else newfriend

>>83937621
how is it tryhard when it's an age old human fucking ritual

>>83937478
Yeah , the cops were definitely outmatched at the cabin but moreso at the motel.

Donny bugs me cause in the film and the first two seasons at least you can make a case the police who are not the main characters aren't completely useless. But he's useless unless he does something big in the season finale.

>>83937665
she didn't have her proverbial hands dirty, the symbolism isn't there

>>83937674
He solved the initial murder in episode 3 while gloria was off chasing ghosts in LA

>>83937674
Donny is basically Andy Dwyer

>>83937649
>protip was on 4chan before it went anywhere

>>83937734
Think moreso in terms of religion

>/tv/ loves Malvo for being an edgelord wrapped in plot armour
>hates Nikki because she's realistically smart

Malvo was by far the worst villain of all the seasons.

I liked this episode desu

How many more left in this season?

>>83938021
One.

>>83938029
Really? Thats disappointing, I don't think its enough time to really wrap everything up

>>83938062
Its 75 minutes.

>>83937899
That's what I meant by "her proverbial hands". She did no Pilatus tier misdeeds.

>>83937915
malvo: great performance, bad writing
season 2 everything: mediocre writing, mediocre performances
varga: bad performance, bad writing

>>83938127
rebirth
baptism
nigger

>>83938182
nah you're trying too hard
baptism is water on the head

>>83938236
I give up

>>83938155
>guaranteed (you)s

>>83938155
worst post on /tv/ today

>>83937915
This

>>83935725
It's ALMOST like they are making a show about Fargo the movie.

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Malvo was masterfully written and had an excellent performance. Same as Lester. Season 1 was godlike and better than everything else Fargo related. Season 3 is pretty decent too, though.

>>83936206
Everything involving Varga's mouth so far has made me sick.
Jesus, Hawley.

>>83937915
> realistically smart
> woman

>>83938764

S2 > S1 > S3

but S3E09 is goat imo, i am expecting the last 3 episode of S3 will be really good, e10 will be good

>>83938764
Malvo invested like 6 months into feeding a guy adderall because he's apparently a psychic and knows exactly what someone will do 6 months into the future while they're high on amphetamines.

Not to mention murdering the entire mob

He's literally a Mary Sue villian

>>83936075
>That will be her demise though,

A female police officer is the only character guaranteed not to die in Fargoverse

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>>83938764
>masterfully written

Ah yes, le edgy preachy psychopath with more plot armour than a super hero. Masterfully written.

Yuri is what Malvo should've been. He was realistic and had no plot armour.
Malvo is literally anime villain.

>>83938953
doesn't mean they can't get hurt

>>83937418
>smart
>prostitute on parole whose greatest ambition is to win fucking card tournaments for old people

Look, i know we all find Mew attractive. But her character has jumped the shark this episode. The street smarts have turned into superheroine tier stunts.

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>>83938896
>>83938941
>>83939018
One of the greatest antagonists in all of the medium and he gets completely unappreciated by /tv/ plebs. What a shame.

>>83937487
Emmit and sy didnt call the police, moron

>select all the pictures with bridges
Thanks, nikki.

>>83939096
Malvo is the best,

with Hanzee I ranked second

>>83939075
To be fair, she is colluding with Wrench, who is probably keen on these sorts of underhanded dealings.

>>83939075
>first episode has her remembering how many steps it takes to get from her apartment to the sidewalk
>WHY IS SHE SO SMART NOW WHAT THE FUCK
Jesus, you people.

>>83939169
lmao her counting did not do jack shit cuz Ray had to stop to light a smoke anyway

>>83939075
>The street smarts have turned into superheroine tier stunts.
Do you think of what she anticipated and planned against?
>Varga didn't bring the money
>came alone but still brought his henchman ready to kill her
These two things, especially the latter are going to be blaringly obvious to anyone who tries to set up a deal like this.
Literally all she had to plan for was Wrench to take care of Memeo so she could intimidate Varga into actually getting her money

The only other thing she did was rightfully guess that Varga was running things and not someone else

>>83939212
counting was to determine the minimal amount of time she has to set the conditioner free
him stopping on the way only helped the cause

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>>83939266
This.
Ray even had to look to see if the guy was in position for them to drop it.

>>83939239
The writing has clearly gone to bias towards her and wrench.
Vargo and co are simultaneously able to pull off double murder distractions for the police, yet cannot fight off a whore and a mediocre hitman.

They dont even bother explaining how Nikki and Wrench got around to finding Varga and knowing the exact spot to ambush him.

>>83939336
Varga's truck that is. As if the henchman wouldnt bother chasing them down too.
It was very poor form for a fargo episode.

>>83939336
>They dont even bother explaining how Nikki and Wrench got around to finding Varga

Are you pretending to be retarded?
Nikki and Ray followed Meemo to the parking lot in a previous episode, the one after she got a beating, and saw Varga getting out of the big rig.

Seriously, ARE you pretending to retarded?

>>83938155
season two was almost perfect television. shut up

>>83939108
the apartment not the mansion, moron

>>83939266
>minimal amount of time
aka extremely random variable

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>>83939425
What did you just call me??

>>83939336
>Vargo and co are simultaneously able to pull off double murder distractions for the police, yet cannot fight off a whore and a mediocre hitman.
You could argue that that's because they're on different sides of the law
The police have to follow rules, and so just setting up a guy to explain away the murders is easy and since he confessed to the crime and has plenty of circumstantial evidence, they can do nothing but accept that it was him
Trying to fight against people who don't follow any rules can be much more difficult, especially when those two people hold on to files that could drain you of all the money you've earned throughout your life

>They dont even bother explaining how Nikki and Wrench got around to finding Varga and knowing the exact spot to ambush him.
What do you think happened in the 3 month time lapse?
They could have easily found the location of the truck by staking outside of the Stussy lots building until they see Memeo or Varga leave and follow them to it's location

>>83939458
I hope Wrench doesn't die, it's the only thing I really want to see happen

>>83939427
you can only move your legs so fast

>>83934692
I liked it a lot up until this episode. MEW braging about not showing all her cards then leaving the room with said card while turning full mary sue and Gloria exposing the subtext of her arc disappointed me greatly. Episode 8 felt like a proper climax but most of this episode was very bland. I have a hard time seeing how episode 10 will make things exciting again in less than an hour

Also looks like Yuri is really dead and I expected more from him

>>83939336
>hurr durr if you're good at offensive moves that means you're good at defensive moves too

>>83936344
There are no sprinkler systems in MN. No need since they get enough rain. This show is full of inaccuracies like that.

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>>83939537
So she counts the minimal time and then what? Her stunt is nigh useless without a spotter and the only thing that helped her was divine intervention.

>>83939556
>in less than an hour
it will be 75 mins

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>>83939586
fuck where's this from, I recognize it

>>83939586
Wrench>>>>>shit>>>>meme-o

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>>83939600
>without a spotter

Well, she had one. Ray, he was the one who was looking outside the window to see if the guy was in position.

>>83939600
you overestimate the importance of that
it only served the purpose of showing she's pretty thorough and can think on her feet
to answer your question though: she counts to have a rough idea of how fast she needs to move to be able to unfix the conditioner before the guy gets downstairs

>>83939294
smug varga > smug meme-o
someone post that webm pls

>>83939194
>>83939294
>>83939586
Malvo Vs Hanzee Vs Meemo
Who wins?

>>83939607
Really?

Well I guess there's enough time then

>>83939729
Without the sound it seems poorly edited.

>>83939194
this nigga smiling like he didn't get btfo all episode

>>83939819

Hanzee because he is tough fucker

Malvo probably second, but he only died because he don't really care dying, he's probably still trying to kill you even during his last breath

Meemo will getting fried pretty fast imo, he needs Varga and co. definitely to cover his ass up

>>83938953
>>83939028
or her relative.

remember, the robot's arm was ripped off by niggers. Varga's henchmen could hurt Gloria's kid

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>>83939693
>it only served the purpose of showing she's pretty thorough and can think on her feet
>on her feet

>>83939840
i'm just parroting tbqh, maybe I got meme'd

>>83939943
malvo killed hanzee (aka Moses Tripoli)

>>83939239
> These two things, especially the latter are going to be blaringly obvious to anyone who tries to set up a deal like this.
Yeah but her knowing that it's sniper and Wrench knowing his location is bad writing.

>>83939952
what can I say m8
this season has been all about cats and feet

>>83940103
Wrench probably waited outside ubtil he saw mimo go into the building beside them. Then followed him to his room.

>>83940133
can't say Noah doesn't know his audience
are Noah and Vince, dare I say, /ourguys/?

Yuri > Memio
fight me

Who else thought Yuri was played by Tom Hardy at first?

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Meemo is literally /our guy/.

>>83938615
This is nothing like the movie.

>>83940008
Malvo killed an old fat man. Prime Hanzee would wipe the floor with him

>>83937525
This. She seems more reserved in expressing the delicate emotions too. Like when Ray said he loved her and she replied with an awkward 'aaw you're sweet' but her love was genuine.

>dj quils getting decapitated by that chain
Kek. Goriest death all series?

>>83939391
i was about to blow you the fuck out, but aliens came and stopped me

>>83940769
Stop pretending it was a deus ex machina when EVERY EPISODE alluded to it happening.

>>83934692
>The Russian guy was mildly interesting

If your post was full of statements I agreed with, I would've still disregarded it because of this pleb-level opinion.

>>83940797
it literally was though

>>83939294
>7sec
>2.9 MB
protip: don't force the 3MB size limit

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>>83935943
>I can help!

;_;

I'm really enjoying this season so far. The first few episodes were the weakest and it seems to be getting stronger every episode - the one with BBT narrating and musical cues for each character being the peak so far. Compare this to the other two seasons where quality declined as they progressed - usually with the finale being the worst.

The last episode had me fucking riveted. I was curious as to what Nikki and Wrench were up to for three months. I assumed it was them tormenting Emmit with the stamp photos. But then that grenade scene, when Wrench came out with the assault rifle, I literally said "holy shit" out loud. Which is something this show, not just this season, has made me do more than once. Probably why I respect it so much.

>>83936170

You're a dumbass. One of her earliest schemes is dropping an air conditioner in *her apartment* on a motherfucker's head while she's already on parole and dating her PO. I wouldn't necessarily call her or Wrench "good". They were on a prison transport ffs.

I'm also liking Gloria more and more, even as she gets shit on. Carrie Coon is a qt pie and a good actress. I find her much more compelling and likable than, say, the fat broad from S1. Who was just annoying and aggressive.

>>83940803
Пoшeл нaхyй, пидop.

>>83941022
wtf is a pidor?

>>83941081
faggot

>>83939631
the twins were worse

>>83940970
>I assumed it was them tormenting Emmit with the stamp photos.
I thought that was Varga tbqh

>>83941128
true
season 2 was the worst in general though, the only good parts were Peggy and Bear

>>83941172
t. pleb

>>83939876
lel
true

>>83940797
what was deus ex machina in the movie?

Meemo = leddit
Malvo = 4chan

>>83941813
Yuri - 2ch?

>>83941813
nah
the nigger and the twins=leddit
malvo, varga, yuri and meemo=4chan

>>83941813
Malvo = reddit
Lester = 4chan
Donny = /tv/

>>83939096
malvo can't even comb chigurh's hair. fuck off.

Great episode. Only better this season was The Law of Non-Contradiction, and that one is special.

I liked how Swango "stole Varga's heart."

Who would win, the tiny Chinese guy or the midget assassin from Twin Peaks?

I think the problem is that the last episode was kino and this one just wasn't quite as good.

>>83939075
She's working with Wrench, who's not just a hitman, he's a DEAF hitman, so his competency in all this is probably double the usual sort to compensate.
Nikki has a she-boner for strategy and the like, that's why she plays bridge and she spelled it out for Varga (and mongoloids like you.) She gets wet on the sort of wheeling and dealing stuff, that's why she kept pushing Ray to get the stamp. She doesn't give a fuck about money, she's just in it for the ride. She could have told Paul to fuck himself and bailed with Wrench to Canada and disappeared, but instead she spent three months working a scheme to get vengeance for Ray and bring down Varga, and have a good time doing it.

>>83940970
>One of her earliest schemes is dropping an air conditioner in *her apartment*
Which was under a false name, like she said.

>>83939586
Is this character actually named Meemo? Pretty funny, since his boss's power is the control of information.

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Who wanted them to kiss?

>>83940347
Meemo is literally a human Pepe.

>>83943773
she was so happy when the faucet turned on

>>83943917
I want to see both their faucets run

>>83943773
>Who wanted them to kiss?
my degenerate dick

>>83935506
Put a bullet in your mouth you fucking moron

>>83937098
This

>>83938896
>S2
>ayy lmaos
I almost dropped the show

>>83944662
same lol
>inb4 it was okay because it was hinted the whole season

>>83939876
kek

If Yuri won't return for last episode, I'll riot.

>>83945032
I'd say we got some yuri in last night's episode during the bar scene, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN'.

>>83945032
He's kill

>>83939096
He's not even a character. He's a force of nature. And while that might make for some fun opposition, it makes him no greater a 'villain' than the twister in 'Twister'. He does the things he does and impacts on the protagonists simply to move the plot along.

At least Hanzee had an epiphany, and his final rampage was inspired by a proper, human motivation. You can admire a flat character for the obstacle they present, but don't go around pretending he's some masterfully written antagonist.

>>83944011
Then what? Do I just spit it back out?

>meme-o will never be your son

jdimsa 2bh

>>83940769
>>83944662
>taking every scene literally in a show which begins with the phrase "This Is A True Story" (with the word 'True' fading out first, just to make sure the retards get it as well).
ISHYGDDT

>>83945569
and yet after 3 seasons people still complain about it not being realistic

>>83944662
But fish raining from the sky was fine?

I like the show underlying theme of showing the world through great (and often well-done) manichean archetypes, and the absurd situations are quite fun.

But last episode was a bit ham-fisted on biblical references, the saying "the greatest trick the Devil ever played" is a bit worn-out and the two lady cops who say "Jesus always wins in the end"? You really can't be more obvious than that.

That's just in the last one, I still don't quite know what to think of the wandering Jew scene. It was a bit unexpected.

>>83936576
came here for this

>current year
>plebs still don't understand the UFO

>>83945402
Malvo was a character. Chigurth was a force of nature

>>83945937
They're about on par with each other.

Why are Fargo fanboys such babies? Anytime someone has a valid criticism all they do is spam "you are a pleb" and "pleb filter" I don't think they have the intelligence for an explanation or debate.

>>83946161
No one's on /tv/ for a fucking debate. We're on here to either bitch, moan, or fawn over MEW.

>>83946161
shut the fuck up u pleb faggot and fite me irl you fucking cuck

>>83945569
"true" fades out last yo

>>83936844
You have to kys

>>83946708
>No one's on /tv/ for a fucking debate

>when the cancer outs itself

episode 8 was good, but the 7 episodes it took to get there weren't worth it. ewan was a complete mistake for these roles.

>>83936968
They are the typical bureaucratic cops who want their cases solved as easy and soon as possible. See why Eli was trying to pin Ray's murder on MEW early on.

>>83946161
you mean, like people complaining about it not being serious despite it having 3 season long history of not being serious?

>>83946967
he's played them both flawlessly. the characters are what needed beefing up throughout the season, but emmit in the last episode was especially great

>>83937098
Those two are the worst part of this season. I can endure the meme characters but she bores the heck out of me.

>>83947091
winnie is boring as shit but she was necessary basically for just this one scene. and gloria was boring because she was the useless android, invisible for the entire season, unable to help despite saying the whole time "i can help!" now she's not invisible anymore and will actually be badass im hoping

only thing is there's only the finale left so it still feels a bit sour

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>>83946805

>>83947068
the problem is the show relies entirely upon the actors to set their own ideal characters and then act the shit out of them.

only a couple of actors in the entire run have managed to do anything with this formula.

>>83945569
that has nothing to do with a very, very shitty deus ex machina popping up to make sure "plot armor: the character" doesn't have any difficulties.

what the hell was the point of the episode where she learns about the sci fi author shit? complete pointless filler?

>>83947469
It was a story.

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>Varga's server is his most coveted possession
>stealing it completely strips him of his power
>my face when MEW is a Phantom Thief

>>83947469
Coon is the robot dudeeeeee soooo deeeeeep.

>>83946708
I have no Idea how mew kept off my radar for so long,that shot of her in the parking lot wearing "fuck me boots" did it for me though...never really noticed how tall she was.
A big girl perfectly shaped with a glass eye,the imperfections make us perfect.

>>83947418
Something entirely different may have gone down, but the way it's being told to us is 'aliens.' This show is the unreliable narrator incarnate, and it even does you the courtesy of telling you this up front. With those points considered, getting all buttblasted and screeching "Deus Ex! Deus Ex!" is silly.

>>83947469
I think that was one of the stronger episodes, mostly because Noah excels at 70s chic. That being said, the episode introduced the wandering jew, so it probably has that significance to carry it, even without any other.

>>83947469
was a great episode, only issue is he didnt treat the season from there on out as if he had just burned an episode, so now we're going into the finale and it still feels like we're in the middle of rising action

This is one of the worst threads I've seen all week

>>83947729
This is one of the worst posts I've seen all month

>>83947706
kek

>>83939075
She had a scene in the first episode where she dropped an AC on someone while counting how long it would take to go down the stairs. And retards are now complaining that she is suddenly too smart? You guys take the Mary Sue shit too far, stop trying to be Max Landis.

>>83938155
>season 2 everything: mediocre writing, mediocre performances
Imagine being this much of a pleb

>>83944662
>>83944794
And here we observe plebs in their natural habitats.

>>83947830
This. She was also the brains behind every scheme Ray tried, and while her love for Ray occasionally made her do something stupid (like the tampon), the only reason those schemes didn't work is because Ray is a monumental fuck-up. Now that she has someone competent like Wrench as an off-sider, the sky is the limit.

>>83947573
negro, when a production selectively dons and drops "unreliable narrator" status in order to take pressure off the writers to deliver anything remotely good, it can be rightfully called shit.

>Gloria tells Winnie about the novel
>gets a hug
>realizes she's a lesbian now
>self-actualizes and begins to exist
>???
>finale is them scissoring for 75 minutes

>>83947980
she should have thought about her husband being gay a bit more

>wait a minute, if HE'S gay... then that must mean....

>>83946161

you should visit /tpg/ sometime

>>83948006
This
>oh shit, he passed me the gays!

>>83947946
>selectively dons and drops "unreliable narrator" status
When has Fargo ever dropped the unreliable narrator? Every single episode, right from s01e01, starts with a farcical statement of its trueness. I mean, you didn't actually take 'This is a true story' at face value, did you, you sweet summer child? It's clearly an ironic statement (and one that has become more obvious as the series has progressed). If you're taking everything that happens on the screen as gospel, you're really only getting half the show.

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>>83934692
>cringe

>>83940769
>not understanding the ufo stuff
>season going from almost perfect to godshit because of one small detail you didn't like

Top pleb

Inb4 muh reddit spacing

>>83941172
Your opinion is useless after this statement.

>>83936844
>>reddit spacing

This fucking meme

has to stop

it's so stupid

being worried about syntax on 4chan

i mean really

??/

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>hottest guy in the show
>they kill him off-screen

Come on. I'm a straight dude, btw.

>>83948228
how did he die?

>>83944662
Imagine being this fragile

>>83948228
He died on screen. It was just a metaphysical death, rather than a physical death.

>ebin cliffhanger when Emmit goes to the prisinct to conffes
>almost entire epsiode revolves around Varga getting him out of jail in the most retarded way possible

>>83948164
it went from mediocre to bullshit when the aliens intervened.

>>83946161
What valid criticism? "Muh ayylmaos ruined the show" is not valid criticism.

>>83948292
>retarded way possible

It was actually pretty clever.

>>83948292
I think it's an eleventh hour attempt to pitch Varga as a bigger, more powerful antagonist than he actually is, to make the showdown at the end more satisfying.

>>83948063
son, its using the "tru story bro xd" crap to justify it's contrivances.

and you're falling for it.

>>83947418
How exactly is that a Deus Ex Machina? Do you even know what that is or are you just spewing buzzwords?

>>83948344
That's one argument. I don't know if it's the most logical one, but it's certainly an argument. An equally valid argument is: "Son, you just aren't getting it."

>>83947469
To filter you.

>>83948340
this, this finale really did away with the whole "varga is just a conman and his only two guys are meemo and yuri"

at least partially

>>83948367
I think Season 2 is the best so far, and I actually quite like the aliens as a narrative mechanic, but let's call a spade a spade: they certainly operated as a deus ex machina. Lou was pinned under Bear and there was no conceivable way that Bear would let him live, until the lights of the hovering alien spacecraft distracted him. That's well within the definition of a deus ex machina.

The real question is: was it justified? I think the split in opinion is between the people who treat Fargo primarily as a black-comedy, and people who treat Fargo primarily as a crime-drama. No one's laughing at the aliens, obviously, but they play into the absurdity of the metaphysical elements the series loves to flirt with. And personally I think they invite the deepest reading of any element of the series to date.

>>83948367
Typical TVtropes graduate in writing criticism.

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>>83948634
>there are actually real life """""people""""" who think fargo is a black comedy more than a crime drama
holy shit

>>83948503
Yeah, but he get's played like a child in the same episode because he only brought memo to the metting with MEW.
How the fuck did Wrench knew where Memo will be positioned anyway?

>>83947502

Virtual Machine Varga.

>>83948700
You skipped the keyword: 'primarily.' It's not solely either thing.

>>83948634
But a deus ex machina is a narrative device that writers use when they are cornered and can't find a way out to save their main character. The only thing the ufo did was distract Bear for a second. Literally anything else could've done this (say, a character is driving a car and gets killed and the car keeps going and runs over Bear). Or the characters could have just left Lou out of that situation or write him in a different situation he could've got out of on his own. They wrote the fight that way because they wanted to show the UFO and they wanted it to be a key element of that showdown.

>>83948753
i didnt miss it, reread the post. fargo is a crime drama with larger than life events/happenings overlaid with the comedy of midwestern quirk that together with the fucked up crime that happens, results in a serious crime drama with some black comedy elements. aka, primarily crime drama with some black comedy

>>83948331
it's not retarded
but its also not clever

setting up murders and paying a patsy to confess is about the most straightforward way to get emmit out

>>83948804
or the writers**, not characters

>>83936637
Accept yr fetish bitchmode

>>83948720
see>>83937418
varga severely underestimated her, so he thought meemo would be enough. the people in the coats were just so he wouldnt be recognized, he didnt think he'd need more gunmen for just a girl. and until this point he had no idea about wrench.

wrench found meemo because he's a professional hitman that's been doing it for years. maybe he followed him, maybe he checked several rooms while nikki killed time and talked to varga

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>you work for varga

Who?

I'm confused about the old Asian guy the cops apprehended. Did Varga hire this old asian guy to get captured and go to prison? I know that that is a real thing in life, but for a multiple homicide that would mean life in prison? Doesn't add up, unless they were planning on breaking him out of prison, in which case it would also make no sense, because that would put the cops on the trail of Varga as why the fuck would some random guy killing people with the last name Stussy for being raped by a guy named Stussy have the resources to get him out of prison? It just makes no sense at all, unless the Asian guy just likes living in Prison and didn't care if he was locked up for life.

>>83939239
>The only other thing she did was rightfully guess that Varga was running things and not someone else

It wasn't really a guess seeing as she had all his financial information

>>83948916
Maybe the Asian guy has a family and made some arrangements so his family would get a sum of money? Maybe they threatened his family?

>>83948916
They mention that he was in prison for a long time before that and recently got out, then was living under a overpass or something. He wanted to go back and was also rewarded by Varga in some way

>>83948969
That would make more sense and be in line with who Varga is, but there's nothing in the show that leads the viewer to think this, it's just head cannon.

He seemed to not give a shit when he was arrested at all, making me think he was a part of the plan, not someone Varga was extorting.

>>83948828
The Wire did it first.

>>83948912
The chick who wanted to buy them out.

>>83948994
Yeah I remember the cop saying something like that, but that's only based on what the Asian guy must have told the cops when he was interrogated, so the truth still isn't clear.

Episode 9 was the first time in a long time a TV show had be so excited about the next episode. IRS fella's quivering fingers were great.

>>83949033
You mean the woman played by Mary McDonnell?

By the way I still totally would a Mary McDonnell, top tier GILF

>Strong woman character magically avoids death half a dozen times with the last time literally being saved by an omniscient Jew sent to judge her attacker
>Deaf assassin suddenly becomes the lapdog of said strong woman in a half-cocked scheme to bring down a crime lord's entire enterprise with almost no personal gain involved an extremely high chance of death
>Crime lord is actually impressed with this incredibly retarded plan and could have just had the restaurant filled with assassins and killed them both but instead brings only an asian manlet for protection and offers her a management position job in his crime syndicate
I still like the show and they have used deus ex machina saves before with the AYYYYs, but this is getting really hard annoying.

>>83949097
>she's 65 years old

wtf i love grannies now

>>83949256
He was never going to make good on his promise to hire her. It was all a distraction while Meemo lined up the shot.

Also
>implying you wouldn't become mews lapdog after seeing her stand up out of the bath in e01

>>83949256
>missing that MEW is a cat, ergo she has nine lives
>Wrench wasn't the strategist in his season 1 duo with Numbers either
>implying those look alikes were assassins

>>83947502
i thought/hoped they would wreck the container

>>83949256
>with the last time literally being saved by an omniscient Jew sent to judge her attacker
Yuri's death could have very well just been bleeding out, the bowling alley scene is more for exposition

>Deaf assassin suddenly becomes the lapdog
What else is Wrench going to do now that his m8 for life is dead? MEW probably told him she had a plan to get back at him and make money

>with almost no personal gain involved an extremely high chance of death
What is a million dollars (assuming they split it halfway)

>Crime lord is actually impressed with this incredibly retarded plan
Varga didn't expect such competency from her, also it's clearly not retarded if it worked

>and killed them both
he could only kill them if they brought his data which they hadn't. Why do you think Memeo didn't take a shot?

>>83949256
the obsession with strong women is really getting out of hand
you could complain she's being too clever, but clever women still happen sometimes
other than that, she's not "strong", she uses her charm and wit to get things done and actually gets absolutely rekt in any direct physical confrontation

>>83949256
>>Strong woman character magically avoids death half a dozen times with the last time literally being saved by an omniscient Jew sent to judge her attacker

How did bar God save her? And why is he Jewish?

>>Deaf assassin suddenly becomes the lapdog of said strong woman in a half-cocked scheme to bring down a crime lord's entire enterprise with almost no personal gain involved an extremely high chance of death

It's pretty obvious he's been bumming around the Midwest committing petty crimes for no real gain for the past few years, his best mate and partner is dead and so are his former employers. Varga's men tried to kill him too, and stealing millions of dollars is hardly "no personal gain", is it?

>>Crime lord is actually impressed with this incredibly retarded plan and could have just had the restaurant filled with assassins and killed them both but instead brings only an asian manlet for protection and offers her a management position job in his crime syndicate

Do you actually believe there was a job? He was trying to get her to drink a cup of coma tea ffs.

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>>83949346
>missing that MEW is a cat, ergo she has nine lives
Well how the fuck many does she have left? she has had a ridiculous amount of saves this season.

>Wrench wasn't the strategist in his season 1 duo with Numbers either
This doesn't explain why he would agree to be her partner on this cockamamie plan, last time we saw him he was completely disillusioned with this type of life and now he is jumping right back in for no reason other than the satisfaction of helping m'lady.

>implying those look alikes were assassins
I am assuming you meant they weren't here and are assuming that he DID have it filled with assassins. If that were the case why wouldn't he have have just told them to kill them as they both walked past him on the way out? Wrench was stupid enough to show his face.

>>83948228
>Slav Affleck

>>83948804
I don't necessarily disagree. Whenever the aliens cause something to happen, there is another logical explanation you could apply to the happening. But as it's presented it falls within the realm of the deus ex machina.

>>83949594
>Well how the fuck many does she have left? she has had a ridiculous amount of saves this season.

We've seen nine episodes so far so you know what to expect in the finale

>>83949718
>you know what to expect in the finale
Disappointment

>>83948634
You clearly don't know what a deus ex machina is. Do you think the writer was sitting in front of his desk and tearing his hair out because he had written himself into a corner when Bear attacked Lou? No. He could have just made Bear die from the gunshot to the head. The UFO was purely a choice he made to improve the story. A deus ex machina is the Lotr eagles or the bacteria in War of the Worlds. Thanks to the Fargo UFO I've seen people try to use shit they read on TVtropes a million times. And they always get it wrong.

>>83949694
My point is that it's not really a DEM if you can easily write yourself out of it. Just because it saves a character doesn't mean it's a DEM.

>>83949594
>If that were the case why wouldn't he have have just told them to kill them as they both walked past him on the way out?
Because he wants his hard drives back
If they're dead he won't be able to get them back

>>83949594
>how the fuck many does she have left?
>>83924860

>didn't die when Maurice pulled a gun on her
>didn't die when DJ Qualls tried to poison her
>didn't die when the bus flipped
>didn't die when Yuri beat the shit out of her
>didn't die when Meemo was sent to kill her
>didn't die in the clearing with Wrench
>didn't die at the hotel with Meemo sniper

>>83949808
>>83949829
>The term has evolved to mean a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the inspired and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object. Depending on how it is done, it can be intended to surprise the audience, to bring the tale to a happy ending, or as a comedic device.
>"Aliens bailed Lou out, oho, I didn't expect that" is by definition deus ex machina

I mean, we're not actually trying to pretend that it literally means an intervention from god or something, are we?

>>83949931
>Deus ex Machina are solutions to a problem. They are never unexpected developments that make things worse, nor sudden twists that only change the understanding of a story.
>Deus ex Machina are sudden or unexpected. This means that even if they are featured, referenced or set-up earlier in the story, they do not change the course of nor appear as a natural or a viable solution to the plotline they eventually "solve".
>Deus ex Machina are used to resolve a situation portrayed as unsolvable or hopeless. If the problem could be solved with a bit of common sense or other type of simple intervention, the solution is not a Deus ex Machina no matter how unexpected it may seem.
>Deus Ex Machina are external to the characters and their choices throughout the story. The solution comes from a character with small or non-existent influence on the plot until that point or random chance from nature or karma.

Please never use words you don't understand again

>>83949931
>seemingly unsolvable problem
It doesn't mean an in universe unsolvable problem tho. Yes, Lou was in an unsalvable situation but if another character had hit Bear in the head and saved him, would you all be calling it a deus ex machina? Just because it's a supernatural element (that was hinted all season) doesn't mean it is.

this season made me realize that mew is childhood, coon is for when you are all grown up

>>83949995
>Deus ex Machina are solutions to a problem. They are never unexpected developments that make things worse, nor sudden twists that only change the understanding of a story.
>Deus ex Machina are sudden or unexpected. This means that even if they are featured, referenced or set-up earlier in the story, they do not change the course of nor appear as a natural or a viable solution to the plotline they eventually "solve".
>Deus ex Machina are used to resolve a situation portrayed as unsolvable or hopeless. If the problem could be solved with a bit of common sense or other type of simple intervention, the solution is not a Deus ex Machina no matter how unexpected it may seem.
>Deus Ex Machina are external to the characters and their choices throughout the story. The solution comes from a character with small or non-existent influence on the plot until that point or random chance from nature or karma.
Not that guy, but these are all things that apply to the ayylmaos. Are you sure you know what DEM means?

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>>83950061
Coon a coote.

>>83950019
>seemingly unsolvable problem.
>seemingly
I'm sure the writer knew what he was doing, but I don't think your average viewer expected it.

>if someone hit Bear on the head etc...
By definition it is one when the event is 'inspired or unexpected' So if he Bear was hit on the head by a time-travelling Malvo, I'd call it a Deus Ex Machina. If he was hit on the head by one of the other cops, not so much.

>>83950064
>Deus ex Machina are used to resolve a situation portrayed as unsolvable or hopeless. If the problem could be solved with a bit of common sense or other type of simple intervention, the solution is not a Deus ex Machina no matter how unexpected it may seem.

What is it about the ayy lmao that makes people so dumb?

>>83950061
Coon in the streets, Mew in the sheets.

>>83950061
>implying you can't have both

>>83950101
she was even qt as an old bird lady in the leftovers finale

>>83950153
ask yourself that fgt. then go back to tvtropes.

>>83950206
Great response, you obviously know exactly what a DEM is and you're not just a complete retard.

>>83950135
A tieme traveling Malvo would make sense in Fargo set in year 3000, probably. UFOs make a lot of sense in a 70s setting tho. Mostly when we have unreliable narrators, the TRUE STORY framing and the fact that it was adapted from a book about the narrated accounts of true crimes in the mid west.