Is Paterson the greatest conservative film of the last ten years?

>>83918540
Stop trying to force this. I know its the same person every time.

>Only hangs out with black people
>Interracial marriage
>Wife keeps trying to get job, clearly tired of being just a stay at home wife
>Fucking Method Man in it

>>83918740
Nobody seems to want to talk about this movie otherwise so I have to do what I can.

Although I'm not sure how the Method Man thing is related.

>>83918740
>interracial
Golshifteh Farhani is Iranian and therefore white

>>83918994
I do love the movie to death, and I kind of see where you're going with it, I just feel like that's not what you should take away from the film

>>83919171
What should you take away from it, in your opinion?

>I don't like you, Marvin

>>83918740
>>Only hangs out with black people
How is this "conservative"? Is there no such thing as a black conservative? What a fucking retard you must be.
>Wife keeps trying to get job, clearly tired of being just a stay at home wife
You totally misread her character. She exists to support Paterson and keep a happy home for him.

>>83919171
>I just feel like that's not what you should take away from the film
You are some kind of film fascist, huh?

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>>83918540
>expecting me to believe an ugly mug like Driver can be married to beauty like Farahani
It's unrealistic as hell

>>83920707
Are you serious? Have you seen the babe that married Jonah Hill?

>>83920851
>babe

>>83918540
Born and raised in the Silk City and I can't remember any weird looking fuckers like that ugly dude in this pic

>>83921055
He doesn't even look ugly in that pic.

>>83921141
keep chugging cock ya homo

>>83921365
STOP TALKING TO YOURSELF.

Ho ho.

Is Paterson the?

>It's a "/tv/ interjects politics into movies that aren't political" thread

>>83924649
What other movies have they done this for?

I couldn't get past the first awful poem about brand cigarettes. I wanted to like this. Does he ever stop writing shitty poetry or should I just accepts its embedding into the film?

>>83924907
>about brand cigarettes
it was matches. and no.

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No, this is

>>83924907
He writes a poem where one of the lines is just "Hmm."

>>83924930

Ah, right. Matches. My bad. But the poetry persists? It stays awful? I LIKE poetry is the thing, so listening to that awful shit read aloud by Driver with the font written across the screen put an immediate bad taste in my mouth.

>>83924907
I almost wonder if it was intentional, like you have this absolutely awful poetry superimposed over beautiful imagery of running water while soothing music plays. It made me laugh out loud.

>>83920508
He's proving that it ISN'T a conservative movie. Try to keep up.

>>83925255
I mispoke you thundering, cunting faggot.

>>83925209
why is the poetry awful? I don't want to fight. I don't think the poetry is great either, but I am not a poetry fan.

>>83925209
The poetry is basically all like that, though some of it is slightly better.

What's weird is they also read a poem by William Carlos Williams and it's of exactly the same caliber so it's like, is this a form of poetry that people actually enjoy?

The best poem is actually the one written by the little girl, not Adam Driver's character.

>>83920508
>How is this "conservative"? Is there no such thing as a black conservative?

No, not poor black ones you fucking moron

>>83925321
who were the poor black ones?
>actor
not poor. also not really a friend
>bartender
also not poor. owned a bar. seemed to have a good life.

>>83925306
that was like the one that wasn't written by a "pro" poet as well

honestly the poetry doesn't really matter. the best part is just him listening to conversations on the bus.

it really awoken something in me to start noticing the beauty in everyday things around me. I love just listening to what people talk about instead of always having my earbuds in

NEETS would literally never understand this movie because they live empty lives full of darkness and lonliness

>>83925340
Are you serious? He was a failed actor and the bartender was an owner in a shitty neighborhood.

It's not a "conservative film" no matter how hard you try /pol/

>>83925373
>NEETS would literally never understand this movie because they live empty lives full of darkness and lonliness

Just because we're NEETs doesn't mean we don't remember our former lives. I always liked doing that kind of thing back in the days when I went out of the house. Well, though I was afraid of them catching me eavesdropping.

>>83925391
>It's not a "conservative film"
Jarmusch would never say it's a conservative film because he is Jim Jarmusch, but the fact is that Paterson glorifies a very traditionalist, conservative viewpoint, almost accidentally.

Paterson
>pushes traditional gender roles
>has a comfortable admiration for Eisenhower-era America
>glorifies no degenerate behavior. the one character who comes close is instantly squashed
>realistically portrays the vices and virtues of being working class
It is not a hardcore, "your definition" of conservative (which apparently means ALL NIGGERS MUST HANG) but it is more conservative than anything a Hollywood director has made in years.

>>83925442
>the one character who comes close is instantly squashed
Which character "came close"?

>>83925509
the actor pulling the fake gun.

>>83925442
Oh its the same person that posts this over and over again.

>pushes traditional gender roles

Nope, wife desperately wants to make a name for herself and find some type of career/hobby/ get rich quick scheme and spends his money willingly

>has a comfortable admiration for Eisenhower-era America
Sure, but it also focuses more on the people from that era, some that have absolutely no correlation with conservatism

>realistically portrays the vices and virtues of being working class

Yeah except for the thousands in debt and the failed mortgages

>glorifies no degenerate behavior. the one character who comes close is instantly squashed

Black poor bartender is cheating on his wife


Try again. Also I know its you copy and pasting the same thing as always

>>83925538
How is pulling a fake gun degenerate behavior?

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What do you think of this fellow's take on it?

>>83925549
>Nope, wife desperately wants to make a name for herself and find some type of career/hobby/ get rich quick scheme and spends his money willingly
She just liked having hobbies which allowed her to express herself creatively. "Desperately"? I still think you totally misunderstood her character. She bases her entire life around creating a happy place for herself and Paterson. She is domesticity defined. She wasn't angry, she wasn't going through an existential crisis.

>Sure, but it also focuses more on the people from that era, some that have absolutely no correlation with conservatism
It is an era that many of our modern era refuses to acknowledge produced some amazing things. It wasn't all bad and the movie acknowledges this constantly.
>Yeah except for the thousands in debt and the failed mortgages
This has nothing to do with the movie in question. You are injecting your bias into the argument.
>Black poor bartender is cheating on his wife
I admit I forgot this part.

>Try again. Also I know its you copy and pasting the same thing as always
Why are you so hateful?

>>83925566
It was a grand, foolish stunt in the name of love.

No, that would be Nightcrawler

>>83925651
And how does that remotely relate to degeneracy?

>>83925705
"Pranks" are degenerate. Causing distress in the name of self-gain is degenerate.

Nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rcIJIWqYmo

>>83925764
Imagine if Dirty Harry never came out and only came out in 2007.

IMAGINE

Most boring film I've ever watched. How is this shit acclaimed

>>83925816
It's actually very good.

>>83925783
imagine if Hardcore Harry came out in 1977

IMAGINE

>>83925829
Dirty Harry came out in 71, douche

>>83925721
What does degenerate even mean to you?

>>83925829
First off, it's Hardcore Henry, and it's a Russian movie so it's not like anyone cares.

>>83925969
Causing harm to yourself or others for no good reason.

>>83925993
How does that relate to the definition of degenerate?

Hmm.

When did /tv/ turn into /pol/?

>>83925993

"Degenerate behaviour" sounds like something from a Nazi pamphlet
>see Entarten Kunst

/pol/ is that way stormfag

>>83927001
When retards realized that Trump actually had a chance of winning and decided 4chan was the best place to spread their propaganda.

>>83926968

A-ha!

>>83927131
The sun always shines on TV.

Why does nobody ever want to discuss this movie? Is it just that barely anybody on this board has seen it?

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>>83918540
okay but why did Jarmusch have to turn the Moonrise Kingdom kids into antifa shits?

>>83920707

Personality goes far. Personality and a big dick goes farther. Also Driver is 6'2

>>83920707
I'm having trouble understanding his tumblr fandom, like, I know that he has some features that are somewhat photogenic, but he looks like goofy for fucks sake.

>>83928176
Why does that guy look like the fucking bad guy from Zoolander?

>>83925595
>Alt left
Jesus that false flag is a total retard.

>>83928296
What would being alt-left even entail?

>>83928227
His dick is 6'2? Damn......

>>83928176
How could those two turn into anything but? MK was about their rebellion.

>>83928228
He's popular exactly for that reason. He's non-traditionally handsome.

>>83928344
What is alt about the alt right?

>>83928379
You'd think they'd grow the fuck by the time they're in college.
Wes Anderson is an avowed capitalist, anyways.

>>83928406
From what I understand, the "alt" comes from them allegedly pretending to be Nazis and fascists as some sort of attention-seeking troll. Unfortunately, this draws in actual Nazis and fascists who think they are in good company.

So maybe alt-left is meant to refer to stuff like third-wave feminism?

>>83928487
Source?
I never found anything that would suggest that from his films. Or that interview book.

>>83928487
You realize that colleges are exactly where those ideas are most strongly fostered, right? Course, I don't remember it being like this when I was in college, but apparently these days it's all about open-mindedness, freedom of thought, avoiding heteronormative labels, etc.

>>83928393
>He's non-traditionally handsome.
he has giant monkey ears. it's almost unsettling

>>83924767
just about every movie every posted on here

>>83928529
Jesus chris you are just talking utter bollocks the alt literally means alternative ie not in line with the mainstream conservative right, you want real fascists? go look to antifa and regressive leftists.

>>83928529
completely false. the alt comes from being disenfranchised with mainstream republican politics such as geroge W. Bush and his ilk

>>83928536
He made a commercial for American Express.
He made a commercial for Prada.
He made a commercial for a perfume company He's either a capitalist or a hypocrite.

>>83928555
>open-mindedness, freedom of thought, avoiding heteronormative labels
you got the last one right, but college "these days" is most certainly not about the first two.

>>83928227
the fuck?

I thought he was like 6'7 or something

no wonder all actors are manlets. you have to be one to look regular sized on screen

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>>83928572
That's what makes it non-traditional.

>>83928598
What is so different about mainstream republican politics? The so-called "alt-right" seems to act the exact same way as those nutcases.

>>83927001

there was an exodus of redditors from r/thedonald to /pol/ during the election and after it and they got bored of the circle jerk over there and started shitposting all over the rest of the site. it's hilarious that the first thing they say to anyone who calls the out is "reddit is that way," even though it's literally where they came from.

hiro creating /bant/ was a last ditch effort to try to keep them contained but it's already a lost cause. pretty soon this entire site is just going to be full of alt-right neet retards.

>>83928748
Well, first off /bant/ wasn't Hiro's idea, because he just ignores this site while RapeApe, the shadow leader, makes the real decisions.

But yeah, /bant/ failed pretty quickly. Just another slow board where people mainly post traps. (Not that I mind.)

>>83918540
I seriously doubt Jim Jarmusch knows anything about the working class, so you can stop trying to force this, now. Jim doesn't ride the bus to work to a shitty walmart job everyday. He doesn't know how shitty the transit system is or how shitty bus patrons are. Busses in densely populated cities are definitely not like the one in this movie. The main character refusing smart phones is fucking stupid considering the nature of his life and him not knowing what to do when his bus broke was completely fucking wrong, again it's obvious Jim never rode the fucking bus before.

>>83928917
Why does everyone keep bringing up the director by name? Why do so many people know who Jim Jarmusch is? I have no fucking idea who he is.

>>83928917

you're right about this. paterson, nj is also one of the worst cities in NJ and is filled with gangs and drugs. no fucking way a white dude would choose to live and work there unless he was a heroin addict or he couldn't afford to live anywhere else.

>>83928958
Catchy name, it's fun to say so people bring him up more often.

>>83929025
Well, I guess that makes sense since that's why people bring up Idris Elba.

>guy lives in Paterson
>is named Paterson
>movie is also named Paterson
Wow real original naming.

>>83924767
welcome newfag

>>83929080
Pretty much, Lupita Nyongo too

>>83928555

Colleges are the same today as they were whenever it was that you went. Because this is the internet people look at the funny maymay screencaps of liberal college professors saying stupid things on social media or a Breitbart headline about a professor lynching a Christian for questioning evolution and they assume that that's the normal college experience.

>>83929120
What the fuck?

>>83928958
>Why do so many people know who Jim Jarmusch is?
Holy shit, watch some fucking films before you start posting here. Jesus Christ.
Jarmusch is entry-level pleb shit.

>>83929147
>they assume that that's the normal college experience
Granted, while this isn't the case at, say, Oral Roberts or Texas A&M, the memes are absolutely right about the Ivies, most Northeast colleges, and most West Coast colleges.

t. in college

>>83929414
Fuck pleb shit, gimme a list of your top ten films and I'll watch those.

>>83929441
How would you know? Which one do you go to?

>silence
That's what I thought, bitch.

>>83929441
>t.

You're not even American. Don't pretend you know anything about those colleges.

Hmm. - Adam Driver

>>83928742
>What is so different about mainstream republican politics?

Anti-Israel, "ethno-" rather than "civic" nationalist (blood & soul vs. proposition nation), often explicitly racist and anti-semitic, rejects Liberalism including Classical Liberalism (even the most extreme Republicans still subscribe to Classical Liberal principles), Populist while also generally being anti-democracy, hates Neo-Cons and Libertarians, generally interested in pre-Enlightenment societies and forms of government, and often holds authoritarian political views such as Monarchism or National Socialism/Fascism.The Alt-Right also tends to be younger and much more internet savvy than the mainstream right. They also tend to be atheists/agnostics, though this isn't a prerequisite and there are also many Christians and pagans. There's a lot of other stuff, too, but this gives you a general sense.

>>83930573
Well, it seems to me that Trump is still behaving like a mainstream Republican and all the mainstream Republicans are blindly supporting him, so I don't see why the alt-right rallied behind him.

>>83930680
Most of the Alt-Right stopped supporting Trump after he bombed Syria.

>>83930708
So /pol/ isn't actually alt-right? They still seem pretty obsessed with him over there.

>"Do you think there are any other anarchists still around in Paterson?"
>"You mean besides us? Not likely."

What did they mean by this?

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>>83928958
>>83929025
>>83929080
You guys can't be this retarded.

it's like seinfeld without the funny bits

>>83931931
What's your counterpoint?

The music in this film was so creepy. I knew nothing bad was going to happen but at the same time it kept making me worry like something was. I don't know why.

>>83918540
I definitely loved it. I thought it captured very well parts of the writing process, such as the intermingling of reality, poetry and random recurring events. Echoes of characters, situations and sceneries throughout the movie really struck me as a beautiful and truthfull depiction of what inspiration is to an artist.

I'm saying that as a writer who lived at the time with a caring, loving and beautiful girlfriend. She happened to be supportive of my work and also half congolese; needless to say the movie made me feel overly good about myself and about life in general.

Thanks for bringing back these feels anon.

>>83932837
I think it was meant to provoque a slight uneasiness, and to underline the fragile and transient nature of both happiness and beauty.

Paterson's character is also hinted at harboring deep existential scars - as pointed out by his experience in the marines and this pervasing music.

In my opinion, his sensivity to daily life's beauty comes with an equal sensivity to life's existential pain and fears. What if this frail equilibrium tips over? The music provides a subtile way to express this unasked question.

>>83933152
That interpretation makes a lot of sense, and is beautifully worded on top of that. Thank you.

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>>83919034
r u retarded?

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>>83920707
>TFW the stupid travel ban almost stopped her from getting an acting gig.

>>83933363
What a bullshit racist ban. Glad they said fuck you to Trump on that one.

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>>83928596
>He probably actually believes this

>>83933582
It's sad.

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>implying being conservative has ever led to, caused, or inspired greatness in any way, shape, or form

>>83934733
This movie isn't about greatness, hence why it fits. But good job shitposting a thread for a film you haven't watched.

>>83928227

You realize in real life women don't just get wet when someone is 6'2". Guy is ugly as fuck.

>>83925442
Jarmusch is not a Hollywood director. He works independently from the major studios and usually gets his funds from european sources.

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I wish to experience a real innocent comfy social interaction like the pic related scene, it was so damn satisfying to watch.

>>83935031
You sound like a pedo in the making.

>>83928958
Because you're a dumb retard. Jarmusch is a very famous director. Watch more films.

>>83935021
All the actual good films are untouched by Hollywood and funded by Europe, I notice.

>>83933276
are you?

>>83935099
Like what, faggot? You sound like those dudes in video games who just say "Stop dying."

>>83929105
>it's like poetry... It rhymes

>>83935117
If you wanna get into Jarmusch I'd recommend you starting with Dead Man. Stranger than paradise, Down by Law and Ghost dog are also good starting points.
Note that his films are rather slow paced and very unique in terms of atmosphere. It might not be your thing but it worths a try.

>>83935256
Thank you. I don't mind slow movies so I'll give them a shot.

>>83935102
I disagree. There are some fantastic movies from the golden age of Hollywood. (30's-50's) The 70's were also a highpoint.

>>83928958
Reminder that you argue about films in other threads with people like this filthy surface-level casual tourist crossposter

>>83935332
He's probably the one who calls everyone a pleb. Saying "pleb" = MEGAREDDIT.

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>>83935117
Why are you such an arrogant faggot? How old are you? Jarmusch is a very popular film director and this is a television and film board, almost everyone here know who he is. It's alright if you don't know every director out there. But you don't need to be such an ignorant cunt about it.

>>83935520
Don't be so hard on him. He's probably very young. Yes, Jarmusch is a cult director but he isn't nearly as popular among younger audiences as other independent filmmakers like Tarantino or the Coens.

>>83935520
>>83935659
I'm 26. How old are you?

>>83935703
That’s even more sad then.
Why are you on a Television & Film imageboard then if you never even heard of Jim Jarmusch?

>>83935703
Not him or anyone else in the thread bu tI'm 22 and I know who Jim Jarmusch is. But the main issue here is your attitude and you should check on that.

>Why does everyone keep bringing up the director by name? Why do so many people know who Jim Jarmusch is? I have no fucking idea who he is.

C'mon, dude. That's no way to act.

>>83935963
Because I want to learn.

>>83935970
Asking a question and being honest about what I do and don't know is no way to act? Well gee, I guess I'll just make up bullshit and speak as if I'm the authority on everything then. In all seriousness, I would never do that, but come on. Think about it.

>>83925595
false flagz is tru plebz

>>83935108
fuck off Jon Tron you're not white

>>83928227
>its another ugly 6'2 guy thinks his height will get him pussy someday

KEK, 6'3 chad here, your height doesnt mean shit when you're ugly as fuck.

>>83928742
>anti-zionist
>anti-big banking
>anti-globalism

you're not a very bright thinker are you?

neo-cons aren't even conservative

>>83918540
>not being a completely laughable cuck is now considered "conservative"
jesus christ

>>83918540
>jim jarmusch
>conservative

I hate you people so much

>>83925993
Not even close to the fucking mean of the world. Get off of this website for once and read a goddamn dictionary so you can understand that the term "degeneracy" is a meme here.