Will.black panther be the new Iron Man? I say yes

not short enough

>>83903591
Do either of these three men actually have superpowers?

Also, when has Stark ever said "thangs"?

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>thangs

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>be humble

I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE

>>83903591
KANGZ

>>83903617
He is being disrespictful.because he is speaking to a black man

>>83903591
lol thinking any superhero is better than Batman.

why are capeshit faggots such cucked faggots?

>when the victim complex surfaces in your art

>>83903591
You normie faggots should really stop browsing for bait on facebook, tumblr or twitter or whatever. Really, you're the ones that come off as retarded posting this 9gag-level capeshit screencaps and images all the time to get a few (You)s and a couple REEEEEEEEEEs. Stop this shit immediately you complete and utter idiots.

>I'm wealthier than you
>So be humble!
What did the negro man mean by this?

>>83903591
How wealthy is he? I mean he's a leader of an African country, but is he "embezzled some aid funds"- rich or just plain old exploited all the inhabitants till they died kind of a deal?

>>83903689
Found the black that's embarrassed of his people

>>83903591
"Who run thangs"
"RUN"
Why do retards think they can have opinions?

>>83903689
I agree 100%, why are you retards posting things literal nobodys make?
Okay, there ARE stupid people in the world, what a twist, we get it.

>>83903717
I mean if he is the king he owns the entire nation.
Putin is one of the richest men on earth for that very reason

>>83903717
His country is the only one that produces vibranium, the most valuable material in the Marvel Universe. He's as rich as he is black.

>>83903717
Neither, he is "leader of the most technologically-advanced city on earth" rich. Face it white bois, you can't compete.

>>83903591
Why is that nigger allowed to speak like that to the guy who beat Superman and the guy who beat Hulk?

>>83903788
Why compete with a fictional character? You can just win by not buying the comic book and not paying for movie tickets.
>>83903797
WE

>>83903715
People don't even understand a simple rap song

>>83903788
I bet Scrooge McDuck is wealthier.

Could Batman and Iron Man defeat black panther if they teamed up?

>>83903591
>Has the cure for AIDS and cancer
>Doesn't give it to any other African countries and keeps it for himself

Truly the blackest of heroes.

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>>83903849
Nope

>>83903591
>this comic

Love how they are constantly creating imagined slights and scenarios like this that never actually happened, in order to pad their hollow outrage.

>>83903805
>Why compete with a fictional character? You can just win by not buying the comic book and not paying for movie tickets.

So you give up? Typical cuckskin.

>>83903864
I don't really care about power levels and shit but I still feel this pannel was REALLY stupid

>>83903916
No, I'm saying that I'd rather win in real life than in fiction. I mean having an almighty black character is just being condescending towards black people.
Does black panther have any flaws he has to overcome?

>>83903864
>grab a being who could snap all the bones in his entire body by sneezing on him
>lol mah grappling skill so high u can't break out out this!
Wait a second... why does this bring back memories...

>>83903864
Silver Surfer once moved a moon by punching it.

White.

Bois.

Can.

Not.

Compete.

>>83903758
Putin made his fortune playing speed chess at $5 a checkmate. Don't spread lies, there's kids here.

>>83903980
>No, I'm saying that I'd rather win in real life than in fiction.

Yet your immediate acquiescence suggests you don't win at either.

I want to win in real life and in all facets of media. That's what being a winner entails.

>I mean having an almighty black character is just being condescending towards black people.

I can understand why a underachieving cumskin would find the image of a powerful, successful character condescending; but we find it inspirational.

>Does black panther have any flaws he has to overcome?

He's often portrayed as arrogant and isolationist. Traits appropriate for a man of his stature.

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>>83903717
They are the main producers of bald men.

While all three of these men inherited their wealth, two of them have been involved in running international corporations and growing/managing their wealth. Black Panther has just sat on his stack of Vibranium for years. If more Vibranium were available or able to be replicated he wouldn't be worth shit.

Why is stark suddenly a RAYCIST?

>>83903864
Once seen a Hulk issue where ol' purple pants was judo-flipped by Captain America. Cap can lift about 800lbs max and I'm not a physicist, but I believe the implication like that page is that leverage>strength, but the degree of leverage would be irrelevant for those power gaps. I know it's just funny books, but shit like that obliterates any suspension of disbelief I can muster.

Is this a Hudlin issue?

>>83903591
Why would Iron Man say that

>>83903717
He is the king of a nation who trades neither his most important natural resource (Vibranium) nor his technology.

Acutally I'm not sure how he is rich.

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>>83903591
But Batman loves BASED XD BLACK MEN

>>83903745
>Why are you guys making fun of retards on 4chan?
How fucking new are you?

>>83904096
Is there anything more pathetic than a white pretending to be a shitposting black on zipperhead cartoon forum?

>>83903591
>niggers
>relevant outside of the us
No.

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>>83904324
Don't be stupid, those poor AIDs niggers would be turned away from glorious Wakanda.

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>>83904324
He's looking better now.

At least the chinks won't pay for that... only self loathing western manlets will love to pay for yet another uber nigger

>>83903591
Then they can answer back "Then why haven't you used your money to help others like we have? Why did your country sit back and allow the colonization of African countries by European invaders? You obviously had more advance technology that would have repelled them back. Why didn't you share this technology with the rest of Africa? You could have ushered in countless golden ages for these countries by guiding them by your way of life. All those countries south of the Sahara would have been great modernized countries without the need of oppressive colonial Europeans destroying their culture to do so. But instead you hid behind your borders and let the whole continent go to shit because you felt the rest of us are beneath you and not worthy of your technology. Don't talk shit to us about being humble."

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>>83903864
Heh, big deal kid.

>>83904250
Chiun can flip a truck with his little finger. It's all about finding the proper equilibrium point.

You must know Sinanju though. Cap does a little.

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>>83904353
>Is there anything more pathetic than-

Yes. You being proved wrong once again.

Don't you whites ever get tired of losing?

>>83904434
There isnt enough to go around

>>83904568
why do you need cocoa butter

>>83904745
Don't do it all at once. That's stupid. You start north and build up those countries to create a buffer against the Europeans from marching right through then move south and build up the coastal regions. Hell they could have just built a giant wall around the southern boarders to keep prevent a naval invasion. This is something they would have needed to do decades or even centuries in advance of Europeans coming in to colonize. They wouldn't need knowledge of this invasion, just removing their isolationist mentality and willingness to share their knowledge with the rest of Africa.

>>83903591
Just like Doctor Strange is? made less money than SS with China Market ahahah

>>83904568
>>83904832
Yeah I want to know what you're cooking

>>83904959
Diff anon but my wife is black. Cocoa Butter prevents Ashy skin

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>>83903864

>>83904568
Being white alone makes us winners in comparison

>>83903591
(You)

>>83905008
>Diff anon but my wife is black

And what color is her son?

>>83903591

Lol, awesome. I'm sure Black Panther will launch an industry of movies and television series lasting nearly a hundred years.

He definitely isn't a meme character whose main identifying characteristic is his race.

>>83905084
That's what many underachievers tell themselves to feel better.

"It doesn't matter that my life is shit, when I can just take credit for the accomplishments of others who happen the same color skin as me!"

Nationalism is equally as pathetic by the way.

>>83905022
That's still stupid because T'Challa is supposed to be one of Earth's smartest men surely he would know his plan was retarded to begin with.

>>83905120
He's been around since the sixties, he's no "meme". There have been countless black superheroes who've become forgotten. He's not one of them.

>>83903662
Batman is street level, even Widow can beat him LMFAO

>>83905177
Batman is street-level in his own comics. He's cosmic-level in Justice League. Dude teleported to Apokolips and punched Darkseid in the face.

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>contriving an antagonistic conversation between fictional characters to fit your ideology
>using lyrics from the latest flavor of the month "struggle rapper"

you dudes are way too insecure. constantly posting about Black Panther and how bothersome it is to you lot, constantly digging up tumblr shit and posting on here to complain..

just stop. is this some bizarre false flagging attempt at shitposting?

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>>83905177
>even Widow can beat him LMFAO
She can beat him off, maybe

>>83905177
>Street level
He can outrun Flash, without even using gadgets
He beat two full powered kryptonians using martial arts only
He survived rentry in the athmosphere and falling at mach 10 to the ground without gadgets
He survived being viciously punched by an angry god through a planet
He knocked out Wonder Woman in one punch
Etc

Batman even beat in a fisticuff Hulk once with a single kick

>>83903864

>The Power Cosmic is no match for a hammerlock

Good to know.

>>83903864
>Literally a toddler can full hammerlock an adult strongman efficiently
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>83905086
We have a daugher, she is pretty pale.

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>>83905008
Oh I see. Thanks, anon.

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>>83905221
>>83905262
>>83905319
reminder that plot armor isn't a superpower.

Batman gets beat by the likes of Widow.

Do you guys ironically pretend to be racist?
or do you actually hate black people?

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>not much into comic books
>learn about black panther because of the new movie
>learn about wakanda and all the WE WUZery
my fucking sides have been obliterated

>>83905465
I hate niggers, not black people

>>83905455
Plot armor IS a superpower, or rather Bat-planning is. You can't deny his feats in the comic when asking who he can conceivably beat.

>>83904568
Your screen is dirty, nigger

>>83905479
Black Panther was created at the height of the civil right's battle in the late 60s. It's no wonder he feels out of place; he's tied down to that era by his very name (though he allegedly predates the formation of the political group the Black Panthers).

>>83905139
You only hate nationalism because you have no real cultural identity other than being a nig. You don't even know ehat country your ancestors came from.

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>>83905455
>plot armor isn't a superpower

>>83905570
Pathetic nog BTFO

>>83905513
which one is black panther?

>>83905513
>look at me, i want to be racist but i also want to correct people so they dont think i'm racist
P A T H E T I C

>>83905465
>Muh irony
I make fun of them, doesn't mean I hate them. I hate low class scum though and most nigs fall under it.

>>83905601
Panther

>>83905570
I have a cultural identity, I just don't use it to live vicariously through the accomplishments of others. Not sure what's so objectionable about this idea.

>>83905570
Celebrating your skin color/nationality like its something you worked for is still pretty pathetic desu

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>>83905156
t challa was baiting the surfers bait

>>83903591
Comic iron man would body Blank Panther, Panther cant even shoot energy blast all he does is close combat like a pleb. Tony could just fly 200 feet above him and rain down repulsor shots at his ass.

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So you're the kang of this African country? That's nice.
I'm the king of the entire fucking ocean of the earth

>>83905139
>Nationalism is equally as pathetic by the way.
So Israelies are pathetic?

Thats anti semetic you piece of shit.

Nationalism is a good thing it ensures a country becomes great.

>>83905786
Ohhhhhh...so Panther is a master shitposter then

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But isn't Aquaman wealthier and more powerful than KANG? At least usually.

>>83905752
Fuck off. This is a mindset that only developed in the last 50 years with cosmopolitanism. Pride in ones nation and ethnicity was the standard for then average person, and rightly so. In that former case, it was showing that one was part of an contributed to a preexisting cultural legacy. In the later case, it was the understanding that, though your extended genetic line that made up ones ethnicity, your family accomplished things, and you can continue that through your own action. Just because you fell for the cosmopolitain, "cities of the world" meme doesn't make it accurate.

>>83905832
>So Israelies are pathetic?

The fact that you thought this was such a good retort is hilarious to me. Fuck Israel.

>>83905830
How strong is Aquaman?

>>83905711
>Nationalists only care about nationalism because they're loooosers
I have my own accomplishments and a life but I happen to love my country, my heritage and I wish to preserve it. You can't understand that because your ancestors were dragged from the mud to the US so all you have is either 'Murica or broad Afrocentrism that's based on bullshit.

>>83905752
You say this because you can't experience true love for your country, your people and how they've come to this point. That is sad and I only pity you.

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>>83905830
>>83905846

Black Panther HATES Atlanteans.

>>83904568
>fat

>>83905570
National pride != nationalism

Any sane human would hate nationalism, because it's destructive and prevents other smaller nations from achieving success like the greats. The only people who do genuinely think it's good are Amerifats, because they have a culture of oppressive bullying.

>>83905523
>Bat planning
Batman isn't the only smart, intelligent guy around. others can think too.

>>83905576
literally true. plot armor is literally "because the writer said so" bullshit. at least the likes of Thanos etc they have their shown power levels, their abilities etc. Batman is a human with money.

>>83905953
Blacks are human shit, they brag about Africa yet none of these cancerous fucks want to go to Africa.

Africa is a very fucking big landmass plenty of room for every bastetball american in America to live on and never come back here, BUT NOOOOOO they just wanna brag about how "great" Africa was before the white man and not be shit to make Africa "great" again. Fuck american blacks even african niggers cant stand them.

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>>83905939
He has superhuman strength. Not nearly as strong as Superman or Wonder Woman though.

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>>83905939
How strong is water?

>>83905953
You can pretty it up with all the justifications you like. It's pathetic.

But you're right, I would more-or-less be the same person I am now if I was born in the country to the north or the country to the south. I consider that a gift. Save your pity for your own failing race.

>>83905996
>Any sane human would hate nationalism, because it's destructive and prevents other smaller nations from achieving success like the greats. The only people who do genuinely think it's good are Amerifats, because they have a culture of oppressive bullying.
Blah blah blah

human suffering blah

Nationalism is the more complex form of tribalism in human society. There is nothing wrong with nationalism at all, there is no unity or we are all human bullshit, we humans are tribal apes at root and there isnt fuck you can do to stop it.

I bet if you started preaching this madness in South Africa the blacks would beat the shit out of you as african blacks are known to gore immigrants from Africa FOR SIMPLY BEING IMMIGRANTS.

>>83905984
No, I'm only 160. My hands have always looked like that. My mother had the same thing.

>>83906017
Nah, Batman beat him more than once without using gadgets, Aquaman is peak human tier.

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>>83905996
Assuming you're still the nig, you'd know that nationalism was prominent in many "allied" countries and was the fucking norm until the EEC was formed. Even the "smaller" countries you're trying to white knight were nationalist, but it's all about money and how a global community can maximize profit for the elite while keeping the workers a faceless haze in the dregs of society.

>>83905830
>Atlantis is in the Atlantic Ocean
>Pacific Islander look

>>83903591
>be humble
>ay yo lemme tell ya how powful and rich I am

Somebody needs to create an even richer and more powerful spic.

>>83906046
>peak human
Marvel cant into logic.

A human that spent years underwater would be really fucking strong compared to a land dweller since water is a denser medium than air. Heck Aquaman should be stronger than a gorilla as even gorillas cant move that casually underwater.

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>>83906004
Not even the Chinks can help them

>>83905455

It is a super power though, the best of them all.

>>83903782
But his country never sells or trades vibranium.

>>83906094
As long as the subhumans remain in their landmass I dont care what happens to them.

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>>83906046
How many peak human persons can withstand the pressures of the bottom of the oceans you stupid know-nothing idiot.
>But b-Batman beat him
BATMAN HAS PLOT ARMOR POWERS you god damn idiot

>>83906061
>while keeping the workers a faceless haze in the dregs of society.

it's funny how the alt-right is reaching communist levels

Final Trailer out kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td4Q7k5AIgw

>>83906024
>I have no real answer so Im gonna dismiss your post as "justification"
I don't need to justify anything, I love my country, my people and my history, you do not have that kind of love in your heart and even if you were born as a natice in some shithole, you'd at least get a taste of it. You will never have the love that nationalism brings, and I can only offer you my sympathy.

>>83906154
WHO SHOT CAPTAIN ALEX

>>83906136
>I'M A KANG
What a dork.

>>83904367
So Black Panther = Black Trump?

>>83906153
>Muh alt-right
>Muh commies
Well at least you're a true 'Murican in that regard.

>>83905953
No need for pity my dude, I don't think I'm missing out on much.

>>83906061
I'm not the nig, I think patriotism is fine but nationalism goes too far.

>you'd know that nationalism was prominent in many "allied" countries
So? The Allies weren't the most ethical people on the planet either, they're just typically seen as "good guys" because of the Axis (all of which had a state doctrine of nationalism).

Most of Europe lived under a monarchy and that was the norm, it doesn't mean it's a good way to live.

>>83906042
>haha we're all animals at heart guys!
>so let's just embrace it and do whatever we want

How much of a selfish child can you be? Monkeys shit in their hands and throw it at each other, why the fuck do you want to regress to that state of living?

The human race is intelligent enough to move beyond that, or at least most of us are.

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>>83903864
All faggots.

>>83906164
Real answer to what? You're just stating how much you love your country and your people over and over. I tried to draw a distinction between that are taking credit for things you had no part of, and you essentially said "nuh uh". If you want to pretend as though you've won some sort of battle here, be my guest.

>>83906208
Of course you don't, you must be glued to that monitor in order to let your life pass by with minimal interruption. I on the other hand am getting ready to go for a walk and embrace the beauty of my country. Have fun defending the icon of Negro fantasy.

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>>83903864
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>>83903591
Post your face when the black panther movie ends with him getting shot by cops

>>83903591
I think if the film does well they'll try to replace RDJ with Chadwick. It makes financial sense, their characters share a similar moveset and both are leaders, it'll hit their SJW targets, and they can wind him back as the main character in favour of Cap, Bucky, Spiderman, etc, now that they have an established cast and there are developing fan favourites

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>>83903591
If I remember correctly, Black Panther was BTFO in Civil War.
>my super power is being wealthier than even Batman and Iron Man combined
>oh yeah we wuz kangz of muh own country n sheeeeit
And how's that a super power either?
Sounds like a rich dictator.

>>83906246
>He's cool because he shoots guns and kills people n shit!

People who criticize Batman for casually leveling superhuman threats, but unironically like Punisher are the worst.

>>83903591
>new
what happen to the old one? also doctor strange is already new iron man

>>83903591
>strawman
>self satisfied weak comeback
sasuga jamar, expecting nothing better

>>83903617
Why are you so fucking idiot?

>>83906136
Aquaman is magic. Not strong because he's strong. Black Panther could slit his throat.

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>>83906332
>My Spider-Man is Black
So is you bull, faggot.

>>83906215
Whether the "allies" are completely ethical or not (which isn't even the argument, and no country in existence is without fault), even they were nationalists. Nationalism isn't about totalitarianism, the state is not what the people love. The nation is where the love is, and democracy has been a part of that for a very long time. Nationalism suffers because it has been subverted in the favour of global politics, a broad morality where every western country needs to meet the same standards despite cultural and population differences.

>>83905174
oh yeah? where is black Panther number 643? like captain atom and many others he is just made to play second fiddle because he could never carry his own story

>>83906243
This is the core problem and essence of conservatism and to a lesser the entire political spectrum.

All that science, all those facts, yet all he does is use it for sins he only out of hypocrisy believes in.
And that cultural chistianity bullshit is nearly as bad too.

>>83903715
T'Challa is the richest superhero in the comics both marvel and dc

>>83905565
black people never moved on from before the civil rights movement so he's only out of place for whities

>>83903717
he lives in a magic city were nature provides everything. its eldorado (like the trailer said) as other have pointed out he does not trade anything, not even cure for caner

>>83906269
I have already told you that I have many personal achievements to be proud of, and that "taking credit" for my ancestors is not why Im a nationalist. You don't understand why a person would be a nationalist and I was trying to explain it.

>>83906406
No one said Aquaman was invulnerable, retard.

>>83906456
>T'Challa is the richest superhero in the comics both marvel and dc
>richest
>owns a mere small nation on Earth

>in comparison to some heroes who own and rule over whole planets or system kingdoms
Get the fuck out.

>>83906499
>I have already told you that I have many personal achievements to be proud of

Anyone would say that after being criticized for latching on to the accomplishments of others. I don't believe you.

>>83906270
I honestly don't give a shit about black panther or defending any negro icons, all I was saying is where you're born or who your ancestors are don't automatically make you superior to anyone else, your actions are all that matter. Have fun on your walk anon!

>>83904326
You're trying to make fun of someone in an echo chamber. It's embarrassing. Yeah we get it you hate black people. Can't we just fucking talk about movies? Enough of this shit. I don't like black people either. Just stop fucking talking about it every day.

>>83906424
>even they were nationalists

You're really twisting definitions here to fit your argument. They weren't nationalists, they didn't have a doctrine of nationalism and they never did. Just look at any of the governing parties then or now, nationalism isn't a core part of their ideology.

>The nation is where the love is

Nationalism isn't patriotism. It takes loving your country beyond and uses it as a justification to oppress or discriminate against those around you.

>Nationalism suffers because it has been subverted in the favour of global politics

Subverted? Please. It developed a reputation because countries that embrace nationalism have a tendency to subvert the nations around them. I'm not even talking exclusively about Axis powers now, but look at 'National Communism' and how the USSR and PRC would throw their weight around.

>>83906243
Oh look at me Im so enlightened, humans can handle controllable instincts like killing people or wanting to fuck, but uncontrollable instincts like tribalism will always be here you stupid fuck.

Look at jews as smart as they are they still act tribalistic.

>>83903758
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>>83903788
>>83904297
So why doesn't he help the poor Africans? The richest man alive is black, but it is still whities job to help them?

>>83906704
His job is not to help Africans. His job is to help Wakanda.

But Stark doesn't give a shit about Black Panther to a degree that he would never even give him the time of day to be condescending towards him.
This picture doesn't make any sense.

>>83906729
This. Wakanda is a self-sustained nation that asks nothing of the world but to be left alone.

It's a common theme that Wakanda is a xenophobe nation.

>>83906692
If your definition of tribalism is literally just 'belonging to a community', then yeah, sure, it probably will always exist to some extent.

>uncontrollable instincts like tribalism
How is it uncontrollable? Most people reject being apart of a community based on race, gender, sexuality, etc. The broader forms of tribalism are becoming less significant than they used to be.

>>83904452
>It's all about finding the proper equilibrium point.
Or you not knowing the middle-school basics of physics.

>>83906782
Stark admires Black Panther, they served in the Illuminati together and Stark let BP build the ship that transported the 616 characters to Doomworld.

>>83906816
You cannot control your tribalism, as I just said jews are the smartest humans yet still operate on JEW GOOD NONJEW BAD logic.

It amazing how stupid you are the fact you have friends is tribalism, the fact you care about your family is tribalism, heck your globalism is nothing more than omni-tribalism.

BASED BLACK MAN!

>>83906865
>Jews are the smartest humans
Good Goy

>>83906902
Ashkenazi have the highest base intelligence making them the smartest human breed. Real jews in Israel are fucking morons.

>>83906849
So basically the author is self-inserting a fantasy situation that would never happen in order to justify being condescending through the Black Panther character.

Kind of like losers who fantasize about someone bullying them and them fighting back like some superhero in a scene they engineered in their mind, when in reality nobody even cares to bully them.

>>83906271
I never understood how Batman is a superhero on the level of the other guys. Isn't he just a regular person, only very athletic?

>>83903617
Black Panther with his suit on is basically invulnerable, can run faster than cars, and is strong enough to hurt superhumans like Cap and Bucky so yes.

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Wealth means nothing in the face of absolute power.
Flash has absolute power.

>>83906933
He has a plan for everything and is a master of strategy. Basically the same excuse writers use to make Captain America relevant.

>>83906919
Very good Goy!

>>83906865
>It amazing how stupid you are the fact you have friends is tribalism

So your point is that having a community is like having a tribe..? Why the fuck did you even post ITT then? Your original issue was that nationalism is a more advanced form of tribalism. Okay, it's a more advanced form of community and belonging, it's still dangerous and fucking retarded.

If your argument hinges off of the fact that tribalism is inherent to humans, then don't you think some variants of it are worse than others?

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Lotta jews for a hired thread

>>83906919
Ashkenazi Jews are smart because they're typically born into a wealthier social class than everyone else. In a country like the US, more money is going to mean better education and more opportunities.

>>83903659
This, all white people are racist. Fuck Drumpf and fuck white "people"

>>83907007
Tribalism goes like this

Family
Friends
Social Group
Acquaintance
Country
Race
Species
Universe
>>83907060
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

High base intelligence is genetics not social class idiot.

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>>83907098
>country over race
pleb opinion

>>83907151
Before we had this "white" thing Euros regularly treated eachother like shit because of what country they came from.

>>83907098
>Tribalism goes like this
No it doesn't, certain people are going to have a different order or missing categories.

>High base intelligence is genetics not social class idiot
So why does Israel score so low on the PISA tests, despite 33% of Jews there being Ashkenazi?

>>83904568
It's just funny that the 4chan blacks roleplay as cuckers but they're just fat, deformed and beta like the rest of us here.

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>>83906551
>I don't believe you
Not my problem m80 :)

>>83906580
>Superior
White supremacy and nationalism are two different things, but I will enjoy my walk thanks.

>>83906631
Nationalism used to be part of everyday life, it didn't need to be legislated for people to embrace their homeland and their ancestry.
>Nationalism isn't patriotism. It takes loving your country beyond and uses it as a justification to oppress or discriminate against those around you.
And you accuse me of twisting definitions to suit my argument. Your third paragraph only highlights the corruption of nationalism when political ideology is implemented onto it, not nationalism by itself. If your argument is that things can become corrupted by politics then nothing is safe, so why single out nationalism as the threat instead of politics itself?

>>83907198
You're projecting, pusskin.

>>83906332
That's because Batman does it constantly with nothing but nonlethal gadgets

Punisher tends to deal with humans and when he does encounter supers, he shoots them to death

>>83907190
You care about you family more than your friends more than your social group more than you acquaintances more than your country more than your race more than your species more than your species.

>>83906631
You're thinking of facism.

>>83906933
no. "batman is a human hero with no powers, that is what makes him relatable" except he has all the plot powers in the world. When the plot needs him he can regenerate 4 liters of blood in half a day and hold his breath longer than Olympic medalists, he gets scars but never permanent damage so he can heal from anything

>>83906045
Good luck with your exploding heart

>>83906580
>where you're born or who your ancestors are don't automatically make you superior to anyone else
except being born into a better culture and reviving better education does make you better.

>>83907226
No. There are very little "Alphas" on 4chan. It's just a known fact and there's no reason that the niggers browsing here are any different.

>>83907224
>it didn't need to be legislated for people to embrace their homeland and their ancestry.

Is every post you write going to be conflating the definition of nationalism with patriotism, while ignoring the inherent feelings of superiority that come with it?

>And you accuse me of twisting definitions to suit my argument.

The Oxford dictionary states that in addition to patriotic feelings and principles, the definition of nationalism is: "An extreme form of patriotism marked by a feeling of superiority over other countries." Can you kind of understand why that's a bad thing and how it so often leads to war?

>Your third paragraph only highlights the corruption of nationalism when political ideology is implemented onto it

Nationalism isn't corrupted by political ideology, it's emboldened by it. It becomes fully realized when there is a military capable of subjugating those nations that you view as lesser than your own.

>so why single out nationalism as the threat instead of politics itself?

Because even nationalism on its lonesome, without being entangled within a political framework, is a divisive and dangerous ideology. Feelings of superiority and national grandeur mean discrimination comes easily and feels justified.

>>83903826
Why would anyone want to?

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>>83903591
Either one of them could genocide Wakanda all alone. Does/CAN Panther even pilot anything?

I hate this because back in 2005 as a kid I genuinely liked Black Panther as a character and had his toy but not he's claimed by all the KANGZ

>>83903689
Thanks for the (Yoooooou!), fagotron

Will Black Panther have blacks only screening?

>>83907468

I find it so ironic now everyone claims to be a fan of Black Panther yet he used to be a LITERAL WHO character along with Iron Man. Wouldn't say Iron Man was a big player in the Marvel comics but he was fairly known just had shitty villains and storylines.

>>83907343
Not true. Nationalism was also employed by Far Left governments, such as those in the USSR and the modern PRC. Both of which subjugated those nations they viewed as lesser, despite the former having an almost isolationist state doctrine and the latter deriving their beliefs from that.

>>83904568
Don't you ever get tired of losing your dignity? Black people have been chimping out all over Twitter and Facebook since the trailer dropped because a white company in a white nation took a product of white male imagination and used white funds to make a film with a black lead. Meanwhile the same people ignore everything actual Africans produce. So very sad.

>>83907425
There is no such thing as alphas or betas, you dumb retard.

>>83907151
Even Napoleon had black commanders to kill other whites, race has never been an unifying factor like americans try to believe

Go ask the japanese or the iranians to help their fellow neighboring countries because they're united by race lel

>>83905854
You don't expect the soy latte brigade to understand anything not shit down their throats by high profile "liberals" do you?

>>83907543
>white company
[citation needed]
>white nation
[citation needed]
>white funds
[citation needed]

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>>83907226
>pusskin
Niggers really need to stick with muh dik bantz. ''Pigskin'', ''pusskin'', cumskin'' etc, are so pathetically desperate non-insults that they read like /pol/ bait.

>>83905854
>Pride in ones nation

That's a very modern notion in history too you dumbfuck

>>83907740
Should I have put Duchy? Or Principality? I'm not talking about the advent of modern nationalism, I'm talking about pride in ones state, which is at least as old as city states, you fool.

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>>83907740
>That's a very modern notion in history
If by modern you mean since the first nation some thousands of years ago

>>83907740
That's a disingenuous claim because the modern concept of nations is so new. A Greek would have been proud of his city state. A peasant of the Holy Roman Empire would have been proud to be a part of Christendom.

>>83907549
There are.
One tells a girl they like her and want her.
The other one keeps quiet like a bitch.
The gamma becomes a trap after losing all hope and sells his ass to old men and deviants.

>>83907427
>Is every post you write going to be conflating the definition of nationalism with patriotism, while ignoring the inherent feelings of superiority that come with it?
Wanting your people to continue to exist is not "superiority"

>The Oxford dictionary states that in addition to patriotic feelings and principles, the definition of nationalism is: "An extreme form of patriotism marked by a feeling of superiority over other countries." Can you kind of understand why that's a bad thing and how it so often leads to war?
War has always been about resource, don't act like invading Iraq after 9/11 had anything to do with patriotism.

>Nationalism isn't corrupted by political ideology, it's emboldened by it. It becomes fully realized when there is a military capable of subjugating those nations that you view as lesser than your own.
Yeah how can anyone forget the terrible oppression at the hands of the Irish. Nearly every non-German country is proof of the opposite of what you're suggesting

>Because even nationalism on its lonesome, without being entangled within a political framework, is a divisive and dangerous ideology. Feelings of superiority and national grandeur mean discrimination comes easily and feels justified.
So what's your answer? Open borders? Total urbanization of everything? Drop preservation? Im hearing a lot of problems on your end but no solutions. You just seem angry at the notion that people can love their country and their heritage and not want to genocide everything around them.

>>83906094
He's ignoring a lot of history there. It's not like the Europeans came in and properly educated them. They were segregated and and treated like shit. A select few would be educated as to act as mediators but the mentality of the people was still kept to their traditional cultures. So when the countries were given back you had a majority of the population not educated in politics or maintaining infrastructure, let alone being on the world stage as a nation.

China was able to resist being fully colonized by Europe because of sheer numbers and being relatively equal in technology to the others.

>>83908064
China was fully controlled by 5 nations and even drugged by Opium while Japan was genociding them with the intent to replace them.

The only difference between China and Africa is that China has inherent cultural interest in education, while niggers don't.

Niggers had a thousand times more freedom and entry into education than even Jews did when it was a death penalty of the entire Jewish family to be found out possessing a book.
Jews valued education, niggers don't.

The reason for that is simple: Niggers are inherently stupid with a few rare exceptions.

I can pretty much list you any ethnicity and nation on this planet who had it worse and had it worse longer than niggers, and they still rose above their state at the time by themselves. I can do that because my education in history isn't only limited to Africa unlike yours, but also extends globally.
Pick up more books than the shitty education system in America limits you to, and you will learn better than to argue how you are arguing now.

>>83907427
>The Oxford dictionary states that in addition to patriotic feelings and principles, the definition of nationalism is: "An extreme form of patriotism marked by a feeling of superiority over other countries." Can you kind of understand why that's a bad thing and how it so often leads to war?
>gets the dictionary to talk about political concepts
Are you retarded?

>>83907975
>Wanting your people to continue to exist is not "superiority"

Then you're not fucking talking about nationalism, for the 20th time.

>War has always been about resource

And the desire for resources can be grounded in nationalistic sentiment, like Hitler's lebensraum. If you treat humans as resources, then it's even more clear - Hitler invaded several nations to protect German speaking minorities. Putin destabilized an entire nation because he feared Russian-speaking Ukrainians were under threat.

>Yeah how can anyone forget the terrible oppression at the hands of the Irish.

Does the IRA just not exist to you or are we pretending they didn't have nationalistic principles?

>Nearly every non-German country is proof of the opposite of what you're suggesting

Fascist Italy, Imperial Japan, the People's Republic of China, the Soviet Union, etc.

>So what's your answer?

Patriotism instead of nationalism. Love your country, love your people, but don't use it as a justification for war and the unnecessary subjugation of those around you.

>You just seem angry at the notion that people can love their country and their heritage

I'm angry because every time this topic gets discussed, you retards fail to realize the one fundamental fucking truth. Nationalism is not patriotism. It's not a blue collar worker coming home at the end of the day taking pride in the fact that's playing a minor part in his nation. It's the degenerate wanting to massacre their neighbor so as to expand their nation's influence and power.

>>83908342
I checked three different dictionaries, they all mentioned how nationalism features feelings of superiority and dominance over other nations.

But I guess we should trust what the political scientists ITT have to say about the issue instead, right?

>>83908478
That guy called you out for using dictionaries to define a concept that is more complex and relative than the definitions given, making you an idiot.
Nationalism isn't inherently defined by feelings of superiority, but also can be defined by feelings of equality to better nations (Prussia, Scottish nationalism).
Nationalism isn't maximally manifested through military domination as nationalism is a concept while military is one of many possible tools that aren't inherent to the system's use. Example is pre-Communist China as a Celestial Empire doctorine which pushed economic and cultural subjugation while avoiding military subjugation at a time when China could easily have dominated all areas from Japan to Australia.
Using dictionaries to explain concepts that require proper historical knowledge and understanding is like using the abacus in order to compute a modern simulation program that relies on a CPU, idiocracy.

>>83904568
>fat and retarded with hairy knuckles and a filthy screen
This is exactly how I have envisioned most black 4chan users. You're a walking stereotype my friend (can you walk?)

>>83904568
cool monkey's paw there

>>83908440
>Then you're not fucking talking about nationalism, for the 20th time.
Fuck you and your autistic definition of "nationalism".

>And the desire for resources can be grounded in nationalistic sentiment, like Hitler's lebensraum. If you treat humans as resources, then it's even more clear - Hitler invaded several nations to protect German speaking minorities. Putin destabilized an entire nation because he feared Russian-speaking Ukrainians were under threat.
Yes, Fascists, Nazis and Commies have a horrible track record. No one is saying that nationalism can't be manipulated to suit a political ideology, but nationalism was always part of society prior to WWII.

>Does the IRA just not exist to you or are we pretending they didn't have nationalistic principles?
IRA are Marxist scum and terrorists. I hope you're not one of those #notallmuslim faggots if you're going to use the IRA as an argument against nationalism.

>Fascist Italy, Imperial Japan, the People's Republic of China, the Soviet Union, etc.
See above.

>Patriotism instead of nationalism. Love your country, love your people, but don't use it as a justification for war and the unnecessary subjugation of those around you.
So nationalism, minus the political ideology? Like it has been for centuries? Okay.

>I'm angry because every time this topic gets discussed, you retards fail to realize the one fundamental fucking truth. Nationalism is not patriotism. It's not a blue collar worker coming home at the end of the day taking pride in the fact that's playing a minor part in his nation. It's the degenerate wanting to massacre their neighbor so as to expand their nation's influence and power.
So far all you've given as examples were failed ideologies that required loyalty to a dictatorship/state as opposed to love for the nation itself. You keep trying to censor me by using the more American-friendly term of "Patriotism" like we're in the era of modern McCarthyism--ohhh wait we are.

>>83906941
Uh-huh. But can he swim?

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>>83909434

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>>83908440
>Putin destabilized an entire nation because he feared Russian-speaking Ukrainians were under threat.

Putin took Crimea because:
1. Crimea is a warm port, something Russia desperately needs which is also the reason Russia owns Kaliningrad in the first place for its naval repair and maintenance, which also happened to have Russian engineers and naval infrastructure already built.
2. Crimea comes with a naval control zone which covers Putin's allies in the Middle East and enables quick and effective naval support in the influence zone.

The Russians living there barely qualify as a tertiary reason for pulling a move onto Crimea, you turd blossom.

>>83906544
Op was not mentioning other planets or galaxy systems you fucking idiot, it was between stark and Wayne, powerless heroes who use their wealth

>>83906544
Tell me who are those heroes, without power that rule a entire planet or have system kingdom?

>>83909516
He wasn't responding to OP retard

>>83906456
>T'Challa is the richest superhero in the comics both marvel and dc

>>83909516
Stark in this story comes from a family that actually know how to use and refine Vibranium unlike Niggerpuss, and his arms trade and economic/political consequences of it if used to support the countries surrounding Wakanda would see the whole region turned into dust with only Niggerpuss surviving as a King of ashes.

>>83909572
He's big, burly, uses a hammer, and bleaches all the women including Black Panther's.

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>>83903591
>Ironmanlet and Black panther anywhere close to Batfleck's height.

>>83904568

You're pretty pathetic my man.

How does it feel to have no culture to be proud of so you project your wants and desires onto a fictional character in movies made for children?

I get you're just trying to stir the shit pot but to what purpose? Is your life so unfulfilling you need to find achievement in racial debates with people you'll never see.

You must have a sad life.

P.S your hand is disgusting. Try bathing or eating less McDonald's.

>>83903591
>"thangs"
What is up this artist's ass? When has Tony Stark ever been racist?

>>83909196
>IRA are Marxist scum and terrorists.
>t.Fell for British propaganda.
Yes there were some socialists in the IRA but that doesn't mean the whole lot were dirty Marxists.

>>83908440
>Does the IRA just not exist to you or are we pretending they didn't have nationalistic principles?
The IRA was directly founded in order to win the independence of Ireland in the late 1910's. Nationalism is why they fought for independence, without nationalism Irish culture would have been completely stamped out.
Also during the Troubles the IRA tried to never kill innocents. They would warn the police about bombs in order for the area to be evacuated unlike the Unionist Terror Groups. Infact in attacks where innocents died it is believed that it was committed by British agents inside the IRA.
The only reason the IRA got as much support it did in the Troubles was because the Northern Irish government was discriminating against Catholics. So the IRA were fighting for good causes.
So yes in the case of Ireland nationalism is a fucking Godsend.

>>83904568
>that fucking monkey hand

>>83905008
Tips on getting a Black wife?

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>>83904391
He lost a lot of fat and is less bloated looking. Still a soft body tho, but he has some time to chill before getting fit again for Batman.

>>83909765
>white male
>not inherently a baby killing racist
Wake up

>>83909917
You just know

>>83905221
Thankfully that isn't true, he hasn't been street-level in his own comics for years, probably at least a decade. Morrison's run on Batman was great for moving the plot forward in a level unseen before or since.

>>83909912
They love white men. Just have a job and don't cheat and you can have your pick.
Way, way way more loyal and traditional than white women

>>83907386
>relating to billionaire gary stus
batman is definitely a meme. in a world of literal gods on earth he is nothing, just another clever playboy.

>>83909693
Doesn't Iron Man have like rockets in his feet though?

>>83903591
>artofjamarlogan
>jamar

can't make this stuff up

>>83909984
How did you meet?

>>83907617
Im going to need sources otherwise im calling bullshit on this whole post

>>83910283
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas-Alexandre_Dumas
Different person, but it literally took me a second of duckduckgo-ing 'napoleon black commander' and it was the second link.
Goddamn, you people are stupid and lazy.

>>83910335
>he uses duck duck go
Don't forget to wear your tinfoil hat, conspiracyfag.

>>83910335
>States a very unknown fact about a very unknown person
You gotta drop the sources, it's not my job

>>83909984
THE LOVELY NIA EVERYONE

>>83910462
DuckDuckGo is the entry-level paranoid engine. It's exactly as "safe" as Google, only exists to provide you with an emotional security blanket with an inferior search engine.

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>>83910463
>not looking up information yourself instead of being spoonfed potentially inaccurate information.
>not taking control over one's own education.
Also, I think you missed the part where I said I wasn't that other anon that brought it up in the first place.
But, I was curious to see if it was legitimate, so I looked it up.

>>83910561
>caring enough to look it up myself
no thank
nice spook tho

>>83910178
At church.
>>83910481
Do you really want to talk about butches and gold diggers via a vis white women?

>>83904568
ooh ooh OOH eEe eee eee aAHAA aah aah

>>83910335
He waa also the father of the Dumas who wrote the Three musketeers

>>83904568
>no one understands the cocoa butter joke

>>83910606
Do you live in the South?

>>83906196
In a way. But really it just goes to show how superbly stupid all the libtards who hate Trump but love the premise of this movie really are.

>>83907617
Dumas wasn't black according to the racial profiling of Napoleons time. He was of mixed race.

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>>83910851
It really is fucking hilarious. Wakanda literally put up a giant fucking wall to keep all the useless niggers out.
Pic related. It's a fan edit, but it's pretty accurate for how Wakandans view other Africans.

>>83910629
Grandfather.

>>83909810
Current IRA are marxist faggots and gangsters though.

>>83907386
Don't forget all of his lifts are basically world class or above. Pretty sure his bench was like over 1000lbs.

>>83907072
"Black people" is an oxymoron.

>>83911177
The IRA is officially gone due to the Good Friday Agreement. Today's IRA are just gangsters who kill drug dealers. They aren't even Marxist.

>implying Iron Man or Batman cares
why do black people have such an inferiority complex?