Now that the dust has settled, how righteous and just was his

>>83877407
By every law of the land he should have been king unless you're going off of by right of conquest and that's fine if you do but then you're basically just admitting that you don't give a fuck about things like birth rights so you better not bring that shit up like Dany does every single episode.

>>83877407

>older brother to the king
>vs illegitimate "son" of king

It was between him and Renly. Sadly Renly was too much of a faggot and surrounded by "yes-men" to see clearly. Plus Stannis declared Renly a traitor almost immediately, instead of talking things out.

Plus the whole "ghost killing" thing...

>>83877407
The claim was legal as a motherfucker and totally above board but the whole death cult thing kind of fucked the 'just' aspect right in the ass. If you say "the ends justify the means" then it's game on for everybody. And considering your family took the throne by violence in the first place you can't bitch when you get wrecked.

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there's no "claim", it's the whole point of the show. the person with the right claim is the person powerful enough to take it.

>>83877407
iron throne belongs to dany. it is known

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Power resides where men believe it resides.

The only reason birthright means anything is that people believe in it. To the extent that people don't believe in it, birthright doesn't matter.

he literally has ZERO legitimate claim

he sperged out about being rightful king of by all laws of westeros yet him and his fat fuck brother broke every law and committed countess atrocities by usurping the targaryens

>hurr muh right of conquest tho

the baratheons were never legitimate and therefore stannis had no right

fuck him

>>83878005
>t.numale

>>83878005
>>hurr muh right of conquest tho
But that's how the Targaryens got the throne in the first place. How are their claim to the throne anymore legitimate then the Baratheons?

>>83878277
Because they created the post

>>83878277
see >>83878320

they united the kingdom under 1 crown and created the laws the sperg baratheon goes around quoting

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Reminder that, in a world without DNA evidence, time machines and cameras, there is absolutely no proof that Joffrey isn't Robert's son. All we have is Cersei's word. Stannis made his claim based on a book and a rumour spread by Ned Stark

>>83878005
The Baratheons were the next royal house in the line of succession because they had Targaryan blood from a grandmother

>>83877407
>Right of Conquest
>Older brother of the king
>Grandmother was a Targaryan, the only child of Aegon V other than Jaehaerys II/Shaera to have children
>Not inbred

>>83878357
>they united the kingdom under 1 crown and created the laws the sperg baratheon goes around quoting
By conquering all the other kings while committing countless atrocities? That is literally right of conquest.
Then why is it wrong that another house defeats them in war and takes over using right of conquest?

>>83878402
the great council never confirmed the fat fuck

he was an illegitimate king and therefore any line of succession under him as well

>>83878454
you missed the point, there were no great laws over the entire realm before the targaryens. if stannis wanted to make his claim based on something else thats fine but to go on quoting the laws he broke is kind of absurd

>>83878397
Seed is strong

>>83878526
Lel

>>83878397
Do you even watch the show retard?