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Husbando of the year edition.

Did he do the right thing at the end of the latest episode?
Also general discussion about all the perfect (and weak) characters in the series.
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im not gay enough to watch this, or really enjoy any of neil gaymans shit
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Great episode
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>>83855622
ok
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>>83855622

I bet you'd enjoy receiving a freckly Irish dick. In secret of course
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>>83855622
Not everyone can stomach it we understand
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>>83855622
What the fuck is the deal with Neil Gaiman and all his protagonists just calmly accepting everything that happens to them?

-Your wife died sucking your friends cock!
>ok

-A demon has stolen your helmet and taken it to hell.
>ok

-You will have to go to this parallel dimension and explore weird caves also everybody in this book has treated you like shit, have you noticed?
>ok
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>>83856115

Didn't read the book but: it seems as if Shadow Moon even before the start of the shitfest experiences some intuitive premonitions about bad and strange stuff. Isn't that the point with his character? It's mentioned/suggested several times that he once believed in something or at least experienced something specific in regards to the supernatural but later felt a need to disregard it.

I agree though, he sure is slow to make the most basic conclusions and has sno measure of healthy critical thinking. I was delighted to see him ditch Laura at the hotel room tho.
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That episode was boring as fuck. It wouldn't be so bad if there were more but this was the episode before the fucking finale?

Is Gaiman Irish? Where did all that fucking irish sentimentality come from?
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>>83856464
He's pandering to the American market. It's full of plastic paddies here.
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>>83855515
I want to have a leprechaun in my leprecunt!
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>>83856536
I only want Mad Sweeney and Anubis to survive.
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>>83856115

Mr gay man is a hack
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>>83855515
I thought each country had their own god?

Why did Irish Sweeney become American Sweeney?

Did the people in Ireland get a new Sweeney?
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>>83857379
I thought each country had their own god?
yes
>Why did Irish Sweeney become American Sweeney?
not the same leprechaun,probably just using the same actor for reasons.

>Did the people in Ireland get a new Sweeney?
nope
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>>83855515
I want to see his pot of gold.
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>>83857529
>not the same leprechaun,probably just using the same actor for reasons.

But he has the same memories though?

He remembers Ireland, he remembers that chick, he remembers how he'd die in battle and decided to leave
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>>83858081
>But he has the same memories though?
humm at first i thought they were different persons completely,just the same actor.
its implicit that the original leprechaun was following that irish girl all her life.
if the sweeney of the present is the same how is that he doesnt remember he met an identical person back in those days?
i think they are two different dudes
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STOP TAKING SHIT OFF THE DOCKS NICK
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>>83858474
>if the sweeney of the present is the same how is that he doesnt remember he met an identical person back in those days?

He does.

But she's clearly not a god so it's nothing too strange and if anything they used the same actress to set up more parallels so we'd sympathize with both and see why Sweeney might.

But Sweeney definitely remembers shit unless there are two Sweeneys in America with a lucky coin.
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>>83858613
using browning for the two characters fucked with my autism too much
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>>83858701
I just took it as dead wife being the other chick's descendant
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>>83858613
Ah so in the book its strictly said that there are many versions of each god.

Not Anansi, because of reasons. Has to do with some animal totems and shit, makes his actions in AG seem dickish once you see the rest of the world in his book.
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>it's a Shadow Moon starts speaking episode
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She'll never know he saved her life. =(
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I prefer Shadow Moon.
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Why did Anubis even take dead wife's soul for judgement
She literally didn't believe in anything
So far the only two other cases of people dieing they were taken by their representatives of their actual faiths, for fuck's sake she just worked in a pyramid themed cassino
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>>83863962
I get that. For me however, I found it rather funny I don't know why. It is almost like no one wanted to take her, and so they pawned her off on Anubis because of her work at the pyramid style casino. Of course I read way to far into things.
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I like Shadow when he's not in his retardo "omg whats going on????" state: the Laura flashback episode was fantastic at showing a cooler side to him. But they've been leaning on the fish-out-of-water crap heavily the past few episodes, so it's just annoying.

I didn't quite understand Sweeney saving Laura (or the small scene of him apparently being at Laura's first car crash). With Essie MacGowan being played by the same actress, is it all due to "Irish luck" (aka Sweeney giving back what's owed to Essie by saving her ancestor)?
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>>83859064
>Ah so in the book its strictly said that there are many versions of each god.

that's.....odd. I should read the book perhaps
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>>83864650
I thought as anubis is in cahoots with odin, it was odin that sent him to make sure dead wife was 'laid to rest' or w/e
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>>83863737
I hope she finds out and realizes what a cunt she is
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DEE LIVE ER ME
(OH LAWD)
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>>83865164
I think the problem is these Laura and Sweeney episodes will end up pointless because, well, if you've read the book you already know what I'm not saying. They're doing it for the emotional payoff, I guess? I think they're just wasting episodes that could've been better spent on anything more story-relevant.
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>an entire episode of "America is the land of freedom where your dreams come true"
>Another entire episode of "muh strong womun who does not need no man"

How can you keep drinking this diarrhea?
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We Wuz Gods n Shieet is an insult to Neil Gaiman's work to be honest
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>>83865194
It's far better.
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>>83867457
What else is playing? Please mother fucking tell me you half wit piece of god forsaken nigger shit.
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>>83867506
You could do stuff besides watch TV.

>calling him a nigger
How do you even know he's from Egypt?
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>>83867457
>>83867506
>>83867515
Plz tell me. You euroniggers are the only ones awake yet the the whole yuropoor uni has failed to make anything worth watching since misfits season 1. Y is that?
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Honestly I'm kind of surprised this show didn't unironically make Pepe/Kek a God empowered by hatespeech on the internet.
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>>83855515
Is that pornstache?
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>tfw I saw pablo at my gym today

Dude is really good looking. Fucking lucky cunt.
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>>83867578
>Honestly I'm kind of surprised this show didn't unironically make Pepe/Kek a God empowered by hatespeech on the internet.
I'm unironically surprised you haven't killed yourself yet
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>>83867616

Yes
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>>83856115
Gaiman has a really brilliant imagination and a real knack for world-building and myth, but he's too out there to write protagonists that really connect with the reader/audience. That's fine when your protagonist *should* be unrelatable like the immortal embodiment of the concept of Dream, not so much when they're supposed to be something of an everyman dropped into a world of weirdness.

Most of the time, I find Gaiman's sidereal characters far more fascinating.
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>>83856115
What's the last book called?
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>>83858081
>>83857529
>>83858474

They're essentially memetic "clones." They sort of diverge upon achieving their own unique existence.
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>>83867664
Pics or it didn't happen.
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>>83855515
I hate Laura's character and that includes her as that irish woman. It's like she doesn't have emotions or feelings at all. Also I don't like the power fantasy where a 5 foot tall skinny girl can launch a 6'5 muscleman across the room.
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>>83867684
ebin
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>>83855515
It does not fit the character. All he wanted is his lucky coin. Now what,the power of friendship (even though she is treating him like shit) made him change his mind?
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>>83856608
>pray to allah 5 times a day
>knows he will burn for an eternity for being gay

the massive amount of cognitive dissonance that takes
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>character refers to jesus as jesus fucking christ and is an atheist
>respects salim's right to pray and does not mock him

what did they mean by this?
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>>83868282
maybe its the fact that he was responsible for her dying in the first place
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>>83868296
I don't get these people at all. I have this very religious catholic friend and he is often baffled how some gay people identify themselves as catholic. Why be religious at all when you are not following the principles of religion?
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>>83868313
>he thinks Sweeny is dumb enough to piss off one of the more powerful old gods by mocking one of his worshipers.
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>>83856115
THIS. the main nigger just rolls with everything supernatural and hasn't questioned shit
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>>83868378
I was talking about Laura,why the fuck would Sweeney be an atheist?
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>>83868313
Think of it in these terms:

Is it being done by a character that you like? Do you think you're supposed to like them? To me, she's a hypocritical, condescending cunt, so I just sort of assume that it's no accident that I hate her.

>smugly states her non-belief as outright fact
>gets eternally BTFO by the actual afterlife and resurrection
>doesn't even have the courtesy to be awed by any of it
>completely unapologetic about how wrong she was
>rationalizes her infidelity by saying "When I said I'd stay faithful, it was theoretically true," completely missing the point of what fidelity even is in the first place
>has the gall to never even really apologize

Yeah, she's a cunt, meaning I'm not supposed to like her. Not even an immortal god of death has the patience for her bullshit.
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>>83868429
>Jesus Freaks BTFO
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>>83868429
People tend to overuse the word bitch but Laura is a stone cold one.
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>>83868395
>>83856115
wtf are you guys on about
did you miss every conversation he had with Wednesday?
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>>83856608
YOU ARE AN UNPLEASANT CREATURE
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>>83856115
stoic badass man
nothing you'd understand
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>>83868347
Don't underestimate the ability to delude yourself. Also, people tend to pick and choose what they believe in no matter the religion. Which kinda makes the whole thing questionable because it's either ironclad or pointless. You know, if you're hinging your eternal soul on it and all.
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>>83868347
Because the catholic religion changed the 10 commandments and hid NO IDOL WORSHIP, which means they worhsip a babylonian pagan goddess of wisdom which creates double standard over no standards as the basis of christendom is 1st century socialism.

the fact is homosexuality is spiritually vacuous and pure pleasure seeking and greatly contributes to the spread of disease also atheism.

they go gay and stay catholic because of the established double standards of Vatican 2
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>>83867571
Don't know man we don't live in sheds.
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>>83858081
"He was me, yes, but I am not him."
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>>83868198
Neverwhere I think?
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If you don't realize that this latest ep was one of the best of the series you are cinema illiterate.

It was fantastic, the soundtrack was legit 10/10
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It was confusing they used the same character for both Essie's grandmother and old Essie.

It was probably one of my favourite episodes so far though.
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>>83871727
What was more confusing is that Essie looked the same for 30 years. She spent 20 years in transportation alone.
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>>83868282
You didn't see him talking to hugin/mugin in the tree and his angry rant when he picked it up? Some other deity was communicating with him telling him "not yet".
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>>83868313
She identifies with Salim, thus respects him. Both of them were boring pieces of shit with the personality of a black hole until they had a semi-spiritual awakening and realised their entire life should revolve around some glowing cunt whom they now search for. Only difference is Salim seems to be a decent human being.
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why did he give her back the coin? got in to an argument with my gf about this

>entire episode with dual casting
>emily browning plays dead wife
>also plays essie
>dead wife loses coin

why else would he give her the coin back without feeling like he owed essie for bringing him to america??
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>>83871996
Because Wednesday's spy/messengers crows asked him to bring her to them.
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>>83871632
Yes the flutes was amazing. Whis I could find the soundtrack
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>>83872066
>>83871841
They weren't there when he gave her the coin back. Wednesday had him kill her the first time because he wants her out of the picture so he can keep Shadow to himself, why the fuck would his birds be telling Sweeney to keep her alive now? Sweeney was shouting his lungs out because keeping her alive is outright defying Wednesday's orders.
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>>83871785
No she didn't.
She escaped the first time with the captain then was shipped to America some time later to be a wet nurse to Mr. Johnson, who married her when their children were about 4 years old.
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>It's a /tv/ watches a straightforward plot and is too dumb to understand it despite previous scenes explaining exactly why episode

Honestly I'm kind of upset because they aren't going to have time to get to Easter / Shadow and Mr Ibis / Anything with Mr Nancy / The death tree and the spirit world / Shadow meeting Chzernobog again. Now it seems like they're gonna just jump right into the battle and try and wrap up the whole thing in an hour which is pretty much impossible.

Should have been a 12 episode season, or stretched it into two (even though that would be shit
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>>83872245
Maybe it was Anubis, White Jesus, God of the Trees, The Buffalo god who knows.

He was muttering and cursing at someone.
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>>83872276
It's gonna be two seasons you fucking dummy.

http://deadline.com/2017/05/american-gods-renewal-season-2-starz-neil-gaiman-bryan-fuller-1202089641/
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>>83872300
Maybe he was, or maybe he was shouting in frustration. Either way Wednesday's birds weren't there that time and there's no reason to suspect Wednesday wants her kept alive.
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>>83872350
Oh in which case I have absolutely no problems as long as they get to the fun parts and stop with the meandering road trip
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>>83855515
>It's a lets save money on the casting budget and reuse the same two people episode
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>world is based on belief
>literally everyone who actually bothered truly believing thinks leprechaun are wee folk
>sweeny even comments on how he was once a king, then a bird then a saint
Why
is
he
not
a
manlet
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really liked this episode
i wish theyd done more of those "origin" stories for older gods and somehow tie them in into the present
cool shit.
too bad theres only 8 episodes per season
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>>83873576
that's a myth perpetuated by general mills
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>>83868347
Because modern western society is all about hedonism. We pretend to be religious because it makes us FEEL GOOD to have a magic sky man watching over and protecting us, but we ignore the tenants of his religion that don't make us feel good, they're MEAN!
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>>83872276
next ep is guaranteed to have mr nansi and easter, probably the house on the rock too
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>>83871632
This was the absolute best episode yet. Chock full of feels for me too for some reason.
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Stay away form Runaround Sue lads

https://youtu.be/ID-jsd0HGZs
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>>83874839
It takes a lot less cognitive dissonance to just be a hedonist than it does to even muster belief in an invisible sky daddy, much less one that gives enough of a shit to care what the fuck we do.
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>>83871632
It was like Forrest Gump: Essie Macgowan edition.

I love the Ibis voiceover too, really cool voice.

And the buttpirate cabbie is gone now. So it's all good.
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What was Sweeney shouting in Celtic (?) I got the gist of it, I think. He's pissed at Wednesday ordering him around like some lackey.
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>>83856608
The line in that episode where they're talking about shame was fucking amazing

"Shame was the only thing keeping you getting thrown off a roof long enough to come to America" fucking killed me.
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>>83874636
Yet the mythical creatures are changed based on how people now perceive them
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For those that read the books, where are the actual maximum power old deities during this?
Allah, Judeo-Christian God, Shiva, Budda, whatever
Or are they just too happy with the status quo to actually bother
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>>83875756
>Or are they just too happy with the status quo to actually bother
Pretty much. They're so powerful and things are going so well for them that they couldn't give two shits what the other gods are doing.
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>>83863962
She believed in nothing, so maybe they drew straws or he felt like ferrying her soul.

He was gonna send her into the void for believing in nothing anyways.
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>>83871996
Probably took pity on her cause she reminded him of Essie. More likely that he wants to use her to go against Wednesday by way of Shadow.
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>>83875781
So are allah/god whatever actual people going around?
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>>83874839
I don't have anything against religious people or gay people but I agree with my friend. He strictly followed the catholic faith and even though he was a Chad lookwise, he was celibate before marrying his long term girlfriend. And he has to hear about some guy who frequents gay clubs how they are both observant catholics.
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>>83875884
The gay guy probably has HIV in his brain, don't worry about what he says.
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>>83875873
Yep. White jesus in america is described as speeding down freeways in a limo banging hookers and doing coke so I imagine god is even more powerful in the u.s.. As for allah you'd have to go to some shit country to find the incredibly strong version of it. But yeah, they're around. The war just won't affect them so they don't really give a shit.
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>>83875979
Now that I think about it, gods have to be imagined a certain way right? So trees are trees, jesus looks like jesus and so on. But allah isn't incarnate like jesus and doesn't have a form so maybe he doesn't even exist? Which would be quite ironic lol, avoiding shirk makes it so your god doesn't exist.
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>>83875884
Catholicism is a masochist's religion for the faithful.
t. born Catholic
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>>83876035
>Now that I think about it, gods have to be imagined a certain way right? So trees are trees, jesus looks like jesus and so on. But allah isn't incarnate like jesus and doesn't have a form so maybe he doesn't even exist?
Allah/god would be some sort of disembodied force rather than not existing.
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>>83876079
I was raised strict catholic but I am not religious. A lot of people I know are and it includes my brother who doesn't like pope Francis because "he just changes things to keep the church seem hip and cool". I mean I kinda agree with him,what is the point of believing in something when one guy tells you "oh,that's okay now!" because feminists and lgbtq groups are putting the pressure on you.
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>>83876169
So that can happen too? Interesting.
How does it work with multiple versions of each god?
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>>83876079

Pope Francis is based and one of the few things that keep me from leaving the church entirely.
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>>83876190
Each version and their power level is limited by the area (and people) surrounding them.

So Jesus in the U.S. can do whatever the fuck he wants and everything goes his way while Jesus in Pakistan is a hobo on the street begging for loose change.
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>>83876219
>Pope Francis is based
He's a fucking disgrace.
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>>83876273
Gotta keep with the times or you fade away.
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>>83876268
Interesting. So given like neopagans in scandinavia their version of Odin is probably stronger than mr wednesday.
And what the hell happens if the gods move to another place? Do they fight with their other versions?
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>>83876219
Meme pope,he wants the spotlight so bad and he is willing to sell out.
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>>83876310
>Gotta keep with the times or you fade away.
Relativistic bullshit.
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>>83876378
Yes, because religion sure isn't getting weaker by the day as quality of life improves and technology marches on
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>>83876186
>>83876219
Not really surprised the current Pope would go lax on adherence to scriptures, the Catholic church is bleeding followers in the western world where instant gratification is a real problem for them. And the old boys' club is too used to the money coming in from the previous decades to let that continue. The Young Pope touches on that issue a bit. But I digress.
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>>83876311
>So given like neopagans in scandinavia their version of Odin is probably stronger than mr wednesday.
Definitely stronger.
>And what the hell happens if the gods move to another place? Do they fight with their other versions?
I haven't read anansi boys so unless they do in that book I don't know because it never comes up.

>>83876378
Nah man. It's just a matter of facts. Religions that refuse to change fade away. I get that your butt blasted but if you want catholicism to be around at all in a 1000 years you can't expect it to be completely rigid.
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>>83876311
Maybe in Iceland. Norway, Denmark, and Sweden are firmly Christian now, programmed for centuries and complicit in the war crimes that were the Eastern Crusades. They don't even teach their pre-Christian history in their primary schools out of shame of their "pagan"
past.
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>>83876432
>Yes, because religion sure isn't getting weaker by the day as quality of life improves and technology marches on
I'm not sure what you mean by that.
>>83876459
Non praevalebunt.
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>>83868282
he had a hand in her original death and he feels bad about it. hes just a leprechaun not a murderer or blood crazed psycho. he even ran out on that war he was supposed to die in because, despite all his big talk and bar fights, he's a coward. doesn't seem like he signed up for this shit to be killing cunt wives, so he gave the coin back hoping jesus (im assuming its jesus) can bring her back to a real life instead of a zombie life, that way he gets his coin back honestly
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>>83876667
>book mad Sweeney
dies in an alleyway drunk as fuck
>show mad Sweeney
chill dude helping out others with a heart of gold

choice is obvious
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Just marathoned episode 7 lads, what did I think of it?
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>>83876911
I genuinely love this meme for how true it is.
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>>83876911
Possibly the best ep of the series. Kino.
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>>83867448
>you've read the book you already know what I'm not saying

I haven't. Does something happen? Spoil me anon.
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>>83876479
>quality of life improves
>people don't need to be scared 24/7 that they'll die anymore
>happiness increases
>knowledge increases
>need for magical sky wizard decreases
>people start realizing there are actual explanations as to how the world & the universe work besides sky wizard did it
>world becomes more and more connected
>people start to realize there have been about one gorillion different deities through the story of mankind, each with their own stories about how the world came to be and will end
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>>83876995
What was so kino about it?
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>>83877050
Laura doesn't get a second life, she protects Shadow in the book until she falls apart.

That said it could change in the show.
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>>83858518
But,uncle, The Greek gave me such a good price.(Also,im rewatching Soaprunousso ill try to pushanother unececary reference.)

STELAAA!!!
STEEELLLAAAAA!!!
C,this gabagabool is gett in colda overhere, itsa blessed Anthony shame to let last Carols Ziti to mold inere.
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>>83868395
Are you retarded?
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>>83877086
>happiness increases
keep telling yourself that dawkins
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I still haven't watch the last episode: how many cocks did they show?
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>>83856115
Going into screechland isn't the right way to go when you're a god.
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>>83877936
One.
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>>83876219
this : >>83876273
>washing muslims legs
>kissing the hand of kissinger and rötheschild
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>>83855515
seeing him reminds me that "the brink" got cancelled and that makes me very sad
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>>83868261
Sounds like you're pretty insecure
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>>83872066
>>83872245

Wedesday is surprised Laura is alive and tries to pull Shadow away from her. It's a funny as fuck scene in episode 5 Wednesdays in his and a crow knocks on the door and is chattering. "slow down" and *squak squak* "WHAT?!" and Wednesday immediately goes and tries to get shadow to leave for a drink. Wednesday wants to keep Laura and Shadow apart.
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>>83865164
he saved laura because a) he feels guilt for creating the "bad luck" that killed laura first time round on behalf of wednesday and b) she reminds him of the Essie who convinced him to come to america, and who he was sweet on.

the episode was about showing sweeney used to be much more mellow and can be sentimental
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>dindus will get shot two hundred years
>half episode of gay arab sex
>whole episode of dead cunt

The only reason I keep watching this is Ian McShane and for the whole gods are walking among us because it seems really interesting. But holy shit other than that this show is so fucking awful. Style over substance and filler shit. And if it turns out that the blackdeathman and blackwriterman are a fucking gay couple I am done with this shit.
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>>83882085
Ok
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>>83857529
He is the same guy, the gold coin in the dead wife is the same coin the irish girl ive in offrande to the leprechun.
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>>83882238
The guy she meets in england is a different leprechaun than the one she meets in the U.S.

They're the same god but they're not the same.
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>>83882336
ho yes I've seen the others comment saying that, that is quite odd. That make me want to read the book.
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>>83868139

I appreciate this post.

Also Samael "MUH ULTIMATE FREEDUM" Lightbringer was always my husbando. His comic series was a lot of fun.
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breddy gud show

pic related it me
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>>83883120
You have no idea how retarded you sound right now.
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