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Well...season 5 sure sucked shit.

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Well...season 5 sure sucked shit.
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Of course it did. Season 1,2,3, and 4 were shit why would 5 be any different?
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>First 4 seasons of tv show.
>Show is about a bunch of lesbian jailbirds who do nothing but sit around fingerbanging eachother and bitching that jail is unfair because they can't leave when they want to.

>Thinking season 5 is going to be any different.
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>>83827326
what happened?
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>>83827386
Did you watch them all to find that out?
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>a whole season over the course of a day or a few days

I don't watch it but that kind of idea for a season for a show rarely goes well.
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Go back to /pol/ MAGA chud
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>>83827326
>watching this show
you're a faggot my man
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>>83827326
I was never even close to being near the target audience for the show. With that said, I found the first 4 seasons moderately entertaining. Crazy Eyes and anyone else that won an award was over-hyped. Even with that, the show was still mildly humorous at times and somewhat entertaining.

8 episodes into this season and it seems like this entire season was written by the dumbest fucking BLM protesters in the country.

>entire season taking place over 3 days doesn't work
>Red suddenly turned into a cartoon character
>The most beautiful white woman/lead of the show is hardly around this season (Piper)
>Implying that a riot at a minimum security women's prison isn't resolved in less than an hour

I have little to no desire to finish this season but it is something to watch with my aging mother so I will struggle through the rest I suppose.
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>>83827326
I thought it was one of the better seasons.
Daya is never to be seen after a few episodes.
Tranny leaves after 5 minutes screentime
It was mostly happy riot times.
I just wonder if this series will ever stop relying on cliffhanger finales to get enough demand for a new season.

I also liked how that guy from americanpie returns just to show his buttcrack and his koolaidman ass-tattoo but I was more laughing at the actor.
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>>83827326
Oh shit forgot to dl it will report back next week sometime with reviews dont worry
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>>83828244
She's hardly been around since season 3 started. Her storyline was reduced during season 2.
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>>83827326
You know they are out of ideas when they had that shit dragged out the entire season.
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>>83827640

Do they at least have realistic sound design for the fingerbanging?

You'd hope that with Netflix money they could finance getting those details correct, especially with the acoustics of the concrete block cells etc.
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>>83827326
Piscatellas gay-ass backstory is so horribly cringy and I say this as a faggot
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>>83828968
>do you hear someone getting cooked alive?
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They really ramped up the leftist tinge and "white people are to blame for everything bad that's happened to me and never face any difficulty ever" this season
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>>83828721
They have no sound because they're too pussy (heh) to show it.

It's just normal daytime /tv/ kissing.
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>try to make the characters sympathetic
>every episode there's a new reason to despise the minorities

The blacks in particular are extremely stupid.
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>>83829367
>Get offer for all demands except one that can't even be legally granted, and a no means you get nothing but pepper spray to the face
>"No"
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>>83829367
>they wasted an entire episode on the muzzie cunt that 99% of the people that watch the show couldn't name. Oh no Mohammed got a 2nd wife and it hurt her feelings. Why isn't there a scene where that worthless negra cunt is stoned to death? This season literally spends all of its free time sucking off the non existent somewhat adequate SJW penis.
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>>83829367

>make the characters sympathetic

Really? The flashbacks usually show that in most cases the characters are still criminals who willingly committed crimes and aren't nice people. They let you understand them more but you're not supposed to feel sorry for them.

And yes they're dumb. Most of them are uneducated and ignorant. They also made it pretty clear that Taystee fucked up because she was more worried about her pride over anything else.
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OITNB died with Pornstache
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>>83829481
>Oh no Mohammed got a 2nd wife and it hurt her feelings.
I liked that bit, she was pushing him to get a 2nd wife, not the other way around. She made her own mistake.
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That one skinhead girl had nice tits.
She needs to hook up with Maritza.
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some good tits tho?
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>>83829775

no lol
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I just want more nude scenes of Alex.

I honestly think this season is better than the last couple. But I sense its going to drop majorly in quality again next season. Netflix can't let shit end naturally, look at the state House of Cards is in.
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>>83828968
I thought it was cute. I say this as a gay black guy in my late teens. I wish they would've expanded more on his story though, that prisoner was hot.
>>83829139
It was uncomfortable watching dude scream as he was literally getting cooked alive, but he deserved it in a sense.
>>83829471
#JUSTICEFORPOUSSEY
>the muzzie cunt that 99% of the people that watch the show couldn't name
Is it Abdullah? I remember she had red hair under her hijab and she was one of the newer inmates, right?
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>>83829830
I mean you're delusional anyway if you think season 5 is good so I'm sure you'll eat 6 up whether it's bad or not.
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i think the only reason i like soso is because she looks like the girl i lost my virginity to, but soso is skinnier

shit series
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>>83827326
as someone that dropped this after S1 im glad
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>>83830314

yeah soso is incredibly thin. literal twig arms.
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>>83828244
>Piper
>beautiful

Lol
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I'M WANT TO MARRY TAYSTEE

.... and Ruiz ;__;
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>>83829759
Eww fucking gross. No one else on that show is worthy of Maritza especially not that dude with tits.
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I WANT TO FUCK MARITZA
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>Red left her bf cause he was nice to her
>Soso broke a guy's heart in favor of chad
>The cute blonde security guard wants to get BLACKED
wow really makes you wonder who's behind this show
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>>83828467

>It was mostly happy riot times.

that's precisely what made this season so shitty

too much feel good, too much "we can change the system guys", "we need to work together", "we are better than them"

with season 4 building up to a race war, I expected shit to go down during the riot, not having the nazis working side by side with latinas in some improvised sjw paradise coffee shop

>>83828701

it could've been a very good season, the first episode with everybody establishing their turfs and acquiring assets was a great start

I think the worst writing mistakes were:

1. taking out the gun of the picture, no high stakes;

2. completely dismissing the literal race war that was about to happen in season 4;

3. too much screen time to side characters doing their own thing not impacting the riot at all;

4. too many characters flip-flopping through their character development in a matter of 3 fucking days, I mean Red goes from normal to complete junkie to rehab to redemption; Piper goes from alex fuck buddy to playing house to rebelling to to alex fuck buddy to asking her in marriage; Lorna goes from usual psycho to delusional psycho to self-aware psycho to redeemed psycho)
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>>83829367

That's why I say this show is the goddamn most redpilled show currently on TV. It tries to make you sympathize with them but only shows how dumb and entitled and degenerate all these characters are.
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dude mention every US shooting lmao
dude police brutality lmao
dude gay men are bad lmao
dude black lives matter lmao
dude rape is ok towards men lmao
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>>83829775

just saggy uneven tits as usual

couple of dicks if you're into it
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>>83827326
Captain Janeway really got fat
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>>83829471
Not to mention
>barely any security for their only bargaining chip in the guards
>nobody watching to make sure that Humps doesn't die, which would doom them all
>It's more important to make an artistic memorial than to see to either of these CRUCIAL factors.

The single-mindedness of Taystee and the Black crew was pretty realistic for BLM types desu.
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>>83831756

...How did I not notice until now that Red was Janeway?
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>>83827326

Were all of the riot police white? Because it sure seemed that way
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>>83831777

this

fucking hell, why did the writers choose to tread middle ground

either have a well organized fascist riot where things actually work (the race leaders never even got to meet to plan for things for fucks sake) or have it go full chaos brazilian jail style with people getting burned alive tied up to matresses
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daya is such an ugly spic
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>>83831964
She blamed her shooting the guard in the dick on being pressured.
>M-MUH PATRIARCHY
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Why is she still in gaol?
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>>83832040
>M-MUH PATRIARCHY

you literally missed the entire point of that. The reason why she caved so hard to mob mentality to shoot him is because she always gave in to being pressured by her mother

at the end she decided to make her first decision by herself to own up to her own mistakes because she felt bad and knew it was wrong to do and didn't want to cop out on blaming her mother for influencing her actions
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>>83830800
which is kinda weird since her face is round and chubby
confused boner
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>>83832088
So why was Taystee so irrational with the negotiations? Why did the negotiations even fall through?
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>>83832284

because muh 3 days without sleep
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>>83832284
because she didn't really care about anything aside from getting justice for poussey but was sorta propped up as the ringleader for all the other problems they wanted to fix
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>>83832376
i didnt even hear poussey's name until the end of episode 3
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>>83832446
stage 1 - denial
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>>83832376
I don't understand why Taystee didn't just let the system do its job. The governor literally gave in to the rest of the demands EXCEPT Poussey's wrongful death, which Figueroa explained was a separate legal issue, and of corse Taystee had to flip her shit because "the system don't work for us."
They turned in Daya in an attempt to get amnesty by "sacrificing one life for countless others," but couldn't put off Poussey's death because it would be treated as a "separate legal issue." I mean I know she's a smart character but this was dumb. I'd blame Watson, Black Cindy, etc. cause they were gassing Taystee up as she was negotiating and her lack of sleep, but I digress. Maybe there'll be an episode dedicated to her reflection on her decisions that day or some shit cause that was terrible.
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>>83832573

it was poussey's fault anyway for being so frail you can get sat on to death
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>>83832618
I thought it wasn't her fault since anyone with knees in their back would almost surely asphyxiate or choke at the very least. I was drunk one day and a stocky guy came to my room and I rode his back. He threw me off of him because I was choking him and he weighed at least 50-60 more pounds than I did. That's not really an excuse.
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"Anything less than a yes right now, is the end"
>literally all of the demands are met
>Legally can't prosecute someone unless a fair trial is given
>HNNNNNNNGH
"Get the fuck out. Tell the gov. we not stopping until we got justice for Poussey"
>ohfuck.jpg
She literally threw an unprecedented offer down the drain.
What even..?
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>>83827996
This.
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haha
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>>83832618
It was piscatella's fault for hiring untrained COs who don't know better than to put their knees in people's backs.
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>>83832573
>I don't understand why Taystee didn't just let the system do its job

yeah because the system seems to work really well, right?
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>>83827326

Jesus, season 4 was so much better. They should've embraced the drama outright instead of backing out.

How did we go from:

>killing a guy inside the jail
>cutting him up and hiding him in the garden
>new guards raping people
>new guards torturing people
>new guard chief being a badass motherfucker putting the inmates in their places
>private prison pinching pennies and slave labor
>literal race wars with nazis
>lolly and healy drama

To:

>let's pretend we are civilized for 3 days and fail at it

Fucking hell. From the best to the worst season, just like that. Jesus.
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>>83832877

it works perfectly, bayley would have walked away scot-free because he was untrained and under the command of a psycho while mcc would redirect blame to caputo but taystee was too blind going "we wuz injusticed and shit" to see an accident for what it really was
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Something that as bugging me last season and was really bugging me this season was that one skinny black chick who was a marathon runner when she was first introduced. When she was first introduced she was a relatively good person, but then for some reason they just suddenly made her into some racist cunt, and it's only getting worse every episode she's in. They have literal skinheads and nazis on the show and they're way less racist than this one black bitch, i mean what the fuck? The skinheads actually work with other races and compliment them sometimes, they work with them and talk about shit, help them out, meanwhile the runner chick is just irrationally angry at everyone and thinks everyone hates blacks and is 'putting the man down'. She's like black lives matter incarnate as a person, just irrationally racist towards everyone who isn't black. Except for brooke and that's only cause brooke was poussay's girlfriend.

What is the point of her character exactly? What are the writers trying to portray or do? Am i supposed to sympathize or agree with a chick who is actually more racist than skinheads and nazis? This show is too preachy for me to believe they intentionally made a black character the most racist character.
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>>83832875

Was it piscatella who hired the new guards? I thought i remembered it was Caputo outside trying to train them
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Why is every nigger in there and especially Taystee pretending it's not partly Crazy Eyes' fault Poussay died? I mean Bailey was untrained but he did his job until Crazy Eyes jumped him and then he was just overwhelmed.
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>>83832994
>to see an accident for what it really was

an accident caused by negligence of which mcc is ultimately responsible for. The system that allows for negligent things like this to happen in the first place because there is a lack of accountability

are you really trying to argue the American prison system is a good and proper system?
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>>83833048
If I remember correctly he turned bitter when he was in MAX. She doesn't even say that much anymore plus there are like 25 whites in the prison and around 10 are skinheads/nazis/supremacists. Compare that with half of the population being hispanic and a third being black and you'll understand why the whites can't act up.
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>>83833050
I think that was still under the old warden and this crazy MILF. Caputo just had to deal with them and then had to deal with the vets.
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>>83833048

I would be mad and racist as fuck too if I got to go on a tour of a white only castle-school when I was a kid. Who the fuck does that? It's like having a kid that gets happy as fuck when he gets to eat at McDonald's as a treat and taking him fine dining. Great, you fucking ruined the kid. Actually I kinda had Watson's experience happen to me (living in a third world country), but I was the privileged one and public school kids used to try to beat us up in the street.
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>>83827386
S1 and S2 were pretty good really. It started to go downhill on S3 and I still haven't bothered to watch S4 through.
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>>83833111

I'm trying to argue the american justice system is at least decent whatever biases it may hold, what's rotten is your political system in bed with corporations
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Thoughts on Soso's singing, lads?

https://youtu.be/ChjAas5t5l4
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>>83833264

Eh it's so-so
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>>83833228

S4 is the best but it stops being comedy. Has really high stakes.
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>>83829775
Nope. At one point the Mexican chicks lift their shirts but they're wearing shit underneath. Stalker bitch too.
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>>83828244
>The most beautiful white woman/lead of the show is hardly around this season (Piper)
please.
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>>83831347

Red ended up marrying Dimitri though.
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>>83833065

Suzanne gets a free pass every time even though a lot of bad shit happens because she chimps oUT or they have to play babysitter to stop her before she chimps out. And then when Taystee actually points that out or tries to deal with other stuff they guilt her into looking like a monster until she goes and plays mom again.

It's seriously annoying at this point that Suzanne is one of the biggest liabilities to anything going on but she's too popular to kill of or write out of the show. And she's always freed from blame just because she's crazy, but they had no problems dumping everything on that one else paranoid chick.
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>>83828244
Piper hasn't been the focus of the series for a good while now. She was a tool, that was used to get to the prison, where every season would unfold more stuff about the other inmates.

It would have been best had she been let free somewhere in S3, as she's not mandatory anymore, nor even that interesting of a character.
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>>83833860

I think Pipers is still OK when she's interacting with people who aren't Alex. When those two get together though all the fun drains out of the scene. Their relationship is stupid and their drama is boring. Their flashbacks in season 5 didn't even add anything to them we didn't already know.
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>>83833799
It's intentional. Every character you can sympathize with is a piece of shit, either through the actions in prison or in their past told through the flashbacks. The only person actually trying not to be human garbage is Kaputo. He constantly gets shat on despite always only being a small cog in this whole machine and trying everything he can to better the living conditions in the prison. In the riot he was, as usual, one of the few individuals in there not acting like a little child.
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>>83833953
Piper becoming some sort of crime overlord is so retarded it hurts. And the worst part is she's still acting like hot shit and a though gangster despite getting her shit pushed in at every corner (well not counting the incident where she broke the face of that methhead)
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Stopped watching when the deranged catholic stopped screwing the raspy voiced lesbian.
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Obviously it wasn't very good since this is the first thread I've seen, and it's been three days since the series was officially released (if you discount the leaks).
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>>83834084

That's who she is though. Even after all the shit she's gone through and where she is she still stays on her high horse and makes everything about herself because of her ego. And watching her try to be tough and fail is still more entertaining than watching her play house with Alex.
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Why the fuck is tasty so retarded? Does she expect the guy to to jail with literally no trial? She was there she knows it wasn't malicious Also why is she the one given all the negotiation power when there was the whole thing about voting for demands. .
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How bad is the sjw-ism in this show? Literally every woman I ask about what series they watch tells me they are really into it. Figures.

Is it really that bad or is it actually enjoyable?
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>>83834144
there was minimum 5 threads, and around 2 of them had many replies
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>>83834316
Overarching themes of systematic oppression of poor people/minorities. But also a lot of literally retarded black/mexicans.
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>>83834316
Its pretty bad. There's a scene in the last season where a person was buying an ar rifle along with her groceries at a supermarket. It was pretty blatant anti gun nonsense that had no business being in the show.
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>>83834269

Why do people think Taystee is a genius who knows how the law works? She just a bit more rational and we'll read that most of the others which is why they elect her as the leader. But they made it pretty clear she was being an irrational dumbest more motivated by pride than logic and they didn't try to sugarcoat that she fucked up.
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>>83834316
its amazing because it makes fun of sjw's a lot if you read into it

its a little ironic because they sorta sometimes jab at the prison being their own hugbox and that's kinda what this season was about
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>>83834316
There's no sjwism. Every woman in jail is a criminal and they remind you constantly. The issue is that retards in this board think you have to like of be empathetic to the characters, when you don't. All the charactwers in this show are annoying and retarded and keep making bad decisions over and over (which is why they are in jail in the first place). If you can stand to watch a show with no likeable characters, then it's good.
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>>83834316

It kind of goes both ways. There's some pandering but they also don't gloss over the fact that like 90% of the cast are horrible human beings in general even if they have some good in them. The only characters that are portrayed in a really positive lights Caputo who is one of the few people who genuinely gives a damn about being fair and trying get out change thing, but he gets shit of all the time. Then you have characters like Flaca and Maritza who are generally harmless because they're airhead that keep to themselves.
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>>83834316
That show makes fun of BLM, gun nuts, vets, republicans, democrats, politicians, the 1%, the 99%, the prison system, niggers, spics, chinks, nazis/white supremacists, SJWs, pampered middle class people, everything. Don't be fooled that this is just a liberal soapbox or SJW bullshit, only dumb people don't realize that it's meant to shit on everyone.
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Why did they have to make the riot squad such dicks
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What the fuck was the point of the scene with that one guard hitting on Alieda?
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>>83834515

Cant have any likable characters.
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>>83834316
When one of the black characters dies of #icantbreathe. Come on don't ride on Eric Garners death to make your show more interesting Kohan.
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It's way too - black lives matter, sjw, da evil white people - for me
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What is it about show made for women that compels so many of you faggots to blogpost. Kill yourselves if you're that hungry for attention.
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It was frustrating how long the riot lasted, especially when the high profile celebrity chef was released. It was also annoying how much indulging the prisoners got for the for their demands when there was absolutely no need to. This season should've been a harsh reality of the consequences the inmates for trying to take over a prison. You know, for a comedy show about prison. There is a complete fucking lack cynicism here. Cynicism, that's the fucking keyword here, Oz had it, and that's what made it good. This show has none. It's all complete unfun obnoxious bullshit.
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I marathoned the first season the night it came out and dropped the show the first ep into the second season

you lads really need to stop watching this shit. it's bad for your mind.
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>>83834726
What did you think of the first season?
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>>83834685
I agree, this board needs less actual discussion and more memes.
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>>83834750
It was entertaining in the moment.
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>>83834721

The only reason they held off was because of the other hostages. Once they were free they had no problem storming in.
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>>83833334
>stops being comedy
stops being fun, what a fucking mistake. it's a women prison's show.

that and the end of gratuitous lesbian sex was the death knell of this stupid show.
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>>83827326
The entire season consisting of the riot made for it to be slow and boring.
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Anon stop watching a show with your mom as the target audience.
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It's a stupid drama/comedy show.
Just enjoy it. It shits on everything.
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>>83829481
Post pic of muslim grill.
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>>83833614
Why is she in jail anyways?
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post lesbian webms from the show, everything else doesn't matter
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>>83836297
In a previous season she mentioned killing a cop when she was a biker. I may be wrong though.
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>>83836297
She says she killed multiple people in a short period of time and cut her husband's dick off with a shitty knife.
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>maritza and flaca separated
>ruining one of the only enjoyable parts of the show
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>>83836297
killing commies
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>>83836371
>>83836493
Pretty mad we didn't get to see this. Instead we just got her upbringing with her father.

I did like that though and that was probably the best part of the season
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>it's a BLM subplot
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>THEY BE STEALING OUR CULTURE N SHIEEET!

By far the biggest schlock of the entire show. Though I still have a ways to go.
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>>83831794
because you were born in 1997
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>>83833614
/our girl/
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I want to FUCK Maritza!
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>>83829481
The muslim episode was hilarious. I don't think it was intended to be funny, i'm sure it was intended for you to feel bad for her and to sympathize to some extent but that's just not how it played out at all. She was already an annoying cunt of a character, but then showing her background where she was acting like a SJW cunt to her husband saying "wtf we can't call our daughter a princess she needs female self empowerments!!!!" then saying he should get a second wife to make things easier around the house. The husband was a good guy who didn't want a second wife and wanted to be a good and fun father to his kid. He gets a second wife cause that's what she wanted, then the second wife ended up being a much better wife, mother, and general person than the main bitch, so the husband ended up just ditching her and sticking with the new wife. I don't feel bad for her one bit, she brought it on herself and got everything she deserved. Husband now has a better wife and the kid has a better mother and life. Dumb SJW cunt is all alone and goes to prison.

Quite satisfying really.
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>>83836974
Who doesn't?
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>>83837223
I don't
I'd destroy some taryn manning though
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>>83836999
INSHALLAH!
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>>83836493
>>83836371
Except they are in a low security prison so violent or multiple murders would not end up there.
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>>83829649
and now he is a fucking leprechaun
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>NIGHT TIME IS GONNA BE CRAZY GUYS!
>occurs off screen with no consequences

k. Could have sworn there was a race war going on or something.
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did anyone else find that girl that crazy eyes beat the shit out of really fucking annoying this season? both to look at and to deal with? i really don't like either of them
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>>83831716
its soros owned kikeflix what did you expect

its for bottom of the barrel plebs of society.
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found it pretty irritating how they portray almost every guard + riot squad member as a fucking caricature of DUDE BAD GUYS WHO LOVE VIOLENCE AND ARE FUCKED UP. i'm not sure if this was intentional + tongue in cheek or legitimate pandering but it bothered me. only 'good' guy is caputo and all the inmates pretty much condemn him anyway
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>>83833228
S4 was pretty god awful...it was obviously made to reflect the US election so it delves into race ALOT
>BLM
>some form of an alt-right starting in prison where everyone just happens to be a nazi
>mary sue muslim character
>evil new security guard that just happens to be white (there's a twist to him but it doesn't make much of a difference and they never mention it)

really awful, haven't watched season 5 and don't think I'm going to desu
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>>83829649
>>83838007

This, and he's based as fuck in both shows.
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>>83836586
This. Really, really bad note to end the season on desu. Probably just a false flag "cliffhanger" though. Inevitably all the "core characters" will get reunited 2-3 episodes into the next season.
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>>83827841
Name three examples that did that well
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>>83836785
>do this long drawn out scene with poussey
>look she just happened to stumble across this gay bar! and its so cooky!
>and she found these two drag queens!
>and here's some monks riding through the street on bikes how hilarious! and they're letting her ride with them!
>next scene
>BLACK LIVES DON'T MATTER KILL WHITEY
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I've liked the show but this season it's been pretty unironically preachy. I get it that they should address some of the bullshit that goes down in prison but it's just too much at this point, I don't care about Poussey anymore. They dragged that shit out too long, it wasn't that bad.
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Pussy only died because Crazy eyes was going nuts, who fucking dies with a light knee to the back anyways! Why did no one blamed crazy eyes?
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> minimum security prison
> they might have a gun and hostages
> nobody is trying to escape
Why would you storm it? They're basically incarcerating themselves.
Ending it by force could've led to casualties from the hostages and inmates.
Keep in mind they are a minimum security prison.
> 5 inmates were killed in a womens minimum security prison, during a prisoner riot, sparked by the demand for better care and treatment.
Imagine that headline
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>>83834316

it's so on the nose that it's really easy to get over it

like it's so obvious what it's trying to do that you can't help but think it's actually redpilled as fuck showing these women for the terrible people they are
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>>83838831
>blame crazy eyes

When has that ever happened?
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>>83834424

>no likeable characters

who's lolly
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>>83834726

I can't help it. I'm REALLY into shows that take place in one place. The prison is the best character.
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>>83838831
learn to speak english
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>>83836999

That may have been the only moment in all five seasons that really took me out of it. Too fucking absurd. Too fucking calculated. I don't even want to imagine the type of writer that came up with this shit.
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Bailey's arc was good
Piscatella torturing Rose was stupid
Blanca as usual needed more screentime
Taystee was a fucking idiot and is directly responsible (Alongside Dayanara) for them all going to max or whatever at the end

How long do you think the corporate bitch is gonna spend in jail in season 6?
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>>83827326
Why would anyone willingly subject themselves to this? Because a few kike outlets declared it the hip new show of the year a few years ago? I don't understand.
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>>83840317
>Piscatella torturing Rose was stupid
the guy that raped the fag? cause i thought that was the only good scene in the whole season
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>>83838456

Nah, the next season will be the "getting back to prison" season. It'll deal with the (taystee voice) BULLSHIT in the court system. Wait for them to not have backup records of anything or anyone and Linda to spend 6 episodes trying to prove she's not an inmate.
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>>83840367
I'm an idiot, I meant Red
That scene was good, I would have thought it was retarded if it didn't happen in real life
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>>83840349

Piscatella in S4 alone wrecking these women is worth watching the entire show. Piscatella did nothing wrong.
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>>83836827
>It's a girl with a bright future gets so assblasted by an innocent production of Dreamgirls starring white students that she throws away her future episode

That entire backstory was so stupid. Her teacher was fucking awful, too, and indulged her "life isn't fair" self destructiveness rather than explaining the opportunities (affirmative action) designed for the very purpose of keeping her competitive with those rich kids.
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>>83827326
Haven't even bothered with it so far.

S4 left a really bad taste in my mouth with the political bullshit.

Also isn't the show set in 2012? Whats with the BLM bs?
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Feel like the riot should have been resolved in 2 episodes or so, I dunno
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Are there any good pissing scenes in the new season? Not watching them all to find out
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>>83831875
one of the main dudes leading the team was black and quite sure one of the chicks was some kind of hispanic
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>>83840622
Pennsatucky pisses in a hallway. One of the white supremacists pisses in a cooler of lemonade.
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>>83827326
>season 4
>poussey dies because Piscatella hired some inexperienced twitchy kid who doesn't know how to do his job
>season 5
>Piscatella gets killed by some inexperienced twitchy kid who doesn't know how to do his job
It's like pottery
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>>8383816
You mong literally every guard captured was not demonized and in fact the opposite happened. Black guy robed of insulin, pot head telling Mexican mom where phone is and saving the other Latina with broken ankle (not that he had a choice), stripper not being aloud to shit, even the guy that killed pussy had a lot of screen time for the sympathy viewpoint even though the whole season for justice for pussy. This all just made the prisoners look bad and think was intentional to give you conflictions of the whole damn thing.
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>>83840317
I'm legitimately shocked that they portrayed Bailey in a sympathetic light, one of the few good things of this season.
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Is there any good lesbian action scenes this season?
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>>83841138
>lesbian action
>good
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>>83841102
Bayley did nothing wrong
>Shouldn't have been there in the first place without more training
>Dealing with prisoners who were riled up from Piscatella's torture BS
>Being attacked by a psycho while trying to restrain an inmate

The blame should mostly be with Suzanne desu, but Piscatella should shoulder some too.
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>>83841102
To me it hammered home how pointless Taystees crusade was
Bailey was literally on the verge of killing himself and tried to turn himself in, he was taking Poussey's death harder than anyone
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>>83840559

Are you fucking kidding me? How delusional are you? No amount of affirmative action will compensate for that kind of gap.

Your potential is already 50~80% predefined by genetics with the rest being mostly early age parenting (0-8 years old). Then you should have 10 years of schooling designed to help you figure out a little what you want to do with your life. Except poor kids don't get that luxury. Best case scenario you get out of school with a useless toolkit, never had a chance to explore the possibilities, you get into college because you're supposed to if you want to be "successful" (via affirmative action), you choose a history major because your history teacher used to say you were going places or some vague meaningless shit like that (which is all you got), you find out you are not emotionally or mentally mature enough for college so you scrap by getting barely anything out of it, then you go on to be a little diversity token in the work force where you'll peak as a secretary or middle manager or some shit. Meanwhile Timmy McIvyLeague had state of the art prenatal care, vitamins and baby formula and nutritious food growing up, weekly playdates (networking) from the age of 4, therapy sessions to deal with emotional issues, a comprehensive scientific and moral instruction in school so by the time he gets into college he's in a perfect position to soak it all up and start his path to CEO or congressman by 30. Oh, he's also a guitar virtuoso and freelance writer.

Watson is right being mad as fuck. The only reason they got to visit that school in the first place (only to have a nice reality turd laid onto their laps) was so the poor white 1%ers could feel good about integrating the poor blacks into society (just the school trying to increase their empathy levels). It's not a reason to ruin your life, she took all the anger and directed it to the wrong side sure, but I got mad alongside her.
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>>83832875

Wouldn't have been a problem if crazy eyes hadn't been tard raging at the guy, that thing needs to be put down I swear.
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I only had this season on as background noise but I tuned in for all the CO Bayley parts. They were probably the most engaging.
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>>83841331
>I don't have the same opportunities as the .1% who can pay 20k a year for primary/secondary school, better destroy my life

The kids over there were very privileged, yes. But the vast majority of students go to public school. Watson was looking at probably getting into a state school with a full ride or a private one with need-based aid, and then having all sorts of "first generation student" extra resources available to her to help her succeed.

Very few people are lucky enough to be able to go to a place like the one she toured. It's like winning a small lottery. But most American students go to public school just like her, and most don't turn to crime. Not to mention it was a fucking play that put her over the edge.
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>kill guard in the jail
>get away with covering it up

This shows ridiculous and unfunny.
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Imagine ever giving Jenji Kohan any of your time after how badly she fucked Weeds up
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>>83838621
But all her scenes in NYC were fun to watch. I mean it's a tv show, no that is unlikely to happen all in one night, but again, tv show. Plus it was giving you some good moments with her since she just fucking died the episode before.

Of all the legit stuff there is to complain about with this show, you picked something that actually was fine and half decent to watch.
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>>83841963
That guard was not a guard, he was a hitman sent in to kill Vause by her crime-lord former boss. He wasn't supposed to be there in the first place, so nobody noticed he was gone, giving them time to hide the body and evidence.

Unless you're talking about Humps, but Dayanara did go down for that, in which case you're a retard.
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>>83842343
And yet, the still sucks.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I wanted to like it but there were a lot of stupid things about ti dragging it down. Even more so than usual.

Piscatella becoming a psycho Jason rip-off who tortured people made no sense with his backstory. When he was talking about stripping away Red's shell so everyone could see who she truly was, it made it seem like they were leading up to his prison boyfriend betraying him or something which would have fit with his speech and explained why he was so unforgivably harsh on inmates. But nope, turns out his boyfriend just got raped by another inmate in max. What a surprise, a violent criminal did something violent.

As others have pointed out, them not even saying anything about Suzanne even though she was one of the factors directly responsible for Poussey's death. The amount of times she's caused problems for everyone and they just hand wave it and try to make you unironically feel sorry for her is ridiculous. And then anyone who who even mentions doing the smart thing and abandoning her is pretty much crucified and treated like a complete monster even though she's a huge liability and there's no reason to keep her around.

Red being a drugged up cartoon character for half the season was dumb, but her and Blanca made a nice team at least. Her flashback was cute too.

Piper and Alex continue to be the worst characters in the show. The scenes with them playing house and when Piper proposes were actually painful to watch. Piper is only entertaining when she's trying to act like a hardened bitch and having it backfire on her, and Alex is only tolerable when she's not around Piper. Since they were together almost all season we just got the worst moments with them.

I actually didn't mind Taystee letting everything go to shit with the negotiations since at least people called her out on it. There was a slight chance things could have genuinely improved and made the riot worthwhile, but she fucked it all up because it was more a matter of pride for her than justice.
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>>83827326
>subversive trash shows
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But does main girl show more of her cute little tiddies?
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>>83827326
>>83827386
>>83827640
>>83827678
>>83827717
>>83827326
this show really makes no sense

>Prison riot
>Guards missing
>Shots fired
>2 days later still nothign happens
>Prisoners walk outside like nothing happens

if this even came slightly close to being realistic, everybody would ahve had a sniper scope aimed at their heads

also

>2 fucking women meth junkies capturing a male prison guard

yeah that seems legit

like really he shouldnt make a slight chance against 2 hangover meth chicks

jesus christ what a retarded show

are these guards or weak children with cancer?
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>>83842685

Also, Soso needs to fucking gogo. I don't think there's a more annoying character in the entire show. Not even the methheads.
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>>83842822

>2 fucking women meth junkies capturing a male prison guard

To be fair, his hands were tied up and he hadn't properly eaten or slept in several days. Plus the junkies had a scalpel they were using to threaten him. In an earlier scene he and the other male guard were able to subdue the skinheads and several other inmates even after being jumped from behind, so they were clearly physically fit enough to fight under normal conditions. They were former military too.
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>>83842905
its clearly unrealistic

these 2 women are fucking junkies that were puking just hours ago when they woke up

he is a male guard that had training

how does he even let himself get tied up?

what happened to offense? get a weapon, listen if two retarded non-threats come near and bash their skulls in? it would even be his right, no not his right his duty

the show is retarded and act like women come even slightly near the strength of a man
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>>83842983

All of that was after they had been captured while being held at gunpoint. First they were being held in the guard cell with nothing but a poop bucket and the prison slop to eat. They inmates wouldn't let them lay down or sleep for too long and would constantly bang on the window to wake them up once they started getting comfortable. The guard in question also got taken to The Poo and locked inside it for at least a day and a half before they took him out again at knife point. Even if he was physically stronger them, his hands were literally tied up, he was tired and mentally shaken, and had seen firsthand that they inmates were unstable enough to actually hurt them.

Like I said, in the very beginning of the riot there's a scene where he and the other guard get jumped with one of the inmates literally jumping on his back from behind. He says something like "absolutely not" and flips her over and pins her down without hesitation while his buddy takes down another one who tries to charge him. Then later on they're high-fiving each other and bragging about how they managed to capture four inmates. So surely if he was in a position to actually fight back he would have had no problem actually taking them on.
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>>83843149
im talking about the guy in the washing machine

there is no reason he could get overpowered by two hangover meth chicks
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>>83842983
Meh, it wasn't that bad. Coates had been hiding for a while, he knew that all of the entrances were barricaded/locked and that there was no escape (save for getting to the roof and jumping, but he's not been established to be a smart character). So for him it was either knock those two girls out and continue hiding or just be taken hostage with the other guards and ride the riot out.

Two methheads he could probably deal with, but there's no way he could take on the entire prison (the skinheads alone would have him for breakfast).

All of this is discounting the fact that the riot had been going on for a while any many prisoners had weapons, with at least 1 gun floating around somewhere. Being taken hostage is definitely not the worst thing in that situation. I think the show has been entirely realistic in it's depictions of physical strength.
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>>83842822
The prison was understaffed and totally leaderless. The gun give them the morale boost to overwhelm the guards in the first few episodes (remember how stripper boy and friend managed to catch some inmates until they got cornered)
They literally showed the cops just sitting outside, explaining the bureaucratic clusterfuck that allowed the riot to continue, i.e. Sniper headshots of minimal sec women prisoners makes for bad optics in the news.
Piscatella was one dedicated fag war machine, probably the weakest bit.
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Also the fact that they didnt get fuckign stormend within a few hours after word got out that shots were fired and guards were missing is fucking hilarious.

Right now in s05e05 I see them coming out with Judy King and they dont IMMIDIATELY get apprehended

The fact that they can even walk outside without being stormed from all sides is fucking retarded
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>>83843182

Oh, Coates.

He was a pussy ass bitch who used to work at a donut shop and barely got trained enough to do the job. I'm pretty sure that was just meant to show how spineless he was. He was one of the guards that was constantly getting kicked out so I think that was just him being a spineless coward.
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>>83843220
Oh and they can just walk in

they walk outside the prison, talk with the press, and walk back inside

all with guards and police just standing there behind the press, looking, doing nothing

this doesnt even make any sense

is this a prison even? what happens?

even the prison in fucking Norway would act harder than this hilarious shit

fucking there is a gun in the prison which is used to shot a guard, prisoners are free to go, guards and police just chills there doing nothing

what

i honestly liked this show untill this season, it doesnt make any sense
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SPOILERS IT JUST ENDS IN A CLIFFHANGER AGAIN INSTEAD OF WRAPPING THE SHOW UP PROPERLY WITH AN EXTRA 2 MINUTE SCENE AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR UNTIL YOUVE COMPLETELY LOST INVESTMENT IN THE CURRENT EVENTS OF THE SHOW AND PISCATELLA GETS SNIPED IN THE FACE
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>>83842822

They had hostages, it was already getting media attention, and it was a minimum security women's prison. The Governor was also intentionally denying them permission to storm in because he wanted to try and keep it as on the down low as possible so it didn't look too bad to the press and potentially ruin his chances of getting re-elected or whatever. They also didn't know that it was a guard that got shot until later, and even then it still took a while for the full details to come out. They also had no idea where exactly the hostages were being held either or what the inmates would do if they were truly threatened.

In a hostage situations the safety of the hostages takes top priority over anything else. They don't just start sniping people with no clear way to secure the hostages quickly first.
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>>83843401
Still doesnt make sense

The prisoners literally, LITERALLY, walked outside the front door, to the parking lot, talk with press a bit and going back in and the guards werent even there or werent even paying attention

While a gun is in circulation and guards have been shot & are missing

It is just too much unrealism. I am not saying they should have some sort of tactical SWAT team cleaning everything up within 2 hours, but this is just too much

They dont even take the chances to apprehend any prisoner that can be caught, so they can make the population thinner

they just completely do not give a fuck
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I feel like the goal this show had was to bring sympathy to minorities and women in prison, and a bunch of civil rights equality bullshit, but ironically all it showed was that if women try to organize something meaningful they get completely lost in flaky, petty, animalistic self-interest.

>ATTICA ATTICA ATTICA
>WE WANT HOT CHEETOS AND TAKIS

I guess women are completely inept and can't even stand up to oppression properly.
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>>83843480
The show is a power fantasy for lower class women.
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>>83843538
This would make at least sense

Even for a prison comedy it would be too unrealistic

I dont expect Prison Break tier realism where they headshot anyone that gets close to a window, but this doesnt make any sense whatsoever

its like it isnt even a prison
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>>83843480

>he prisoners literally, LITERALLY, walked outside the front door

I mean what were they going to do? Arrest them one by one? Again they knew they had hostages and didn't know what the inmates would do if they were backed into a corner. If they started taking them out even if they were easy targets they risked putting the hostages in even more danger if they inmates decided to do something to show they were serious or in retaliation.

I'm not saying it's the best writing, but there was a reason they didn't storm in sooner. Even in the real life prison riots that were mentioned they didn't bust into the prisons and start putting people down until it was clear that everything inside had gone to shit and there was no use worrying about hostages anymore.
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>>83827326
all seasons sucked
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>>83841250
Holy shit, I'm such a fucking idiot. I kept wondering who that new kid was and who he murdered, but he's the guard, of course.
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>>83843567
>Prison Break tier realism
okay now you lost all credibility

There is a difference between a minimum security and maximum security prison. I had a friend in a minimum security prison and from his description of it, it is mostly like what goes on at Litchfield.

I can't say what they'd do in the event of a riot, especially one in which all of the guards are somehow taken hostage. The hostages and barricades were the main justification for all the bullshit they pull throughout the season. And the lack of training and under-staffing (and that there were no firearms in this prison) was the justification for them being able to take the prison hostage.
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>>83843495
Most women are clearly guilty of the crimes they committed.
If anything, I'd suspect (critics) judged it poorly because the women were portrayed realistically instead of a power fantasy.
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>>83843660
> I kept wondering who that new kid was and who he murdered
Jesus christ
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>>83842685
I kept waiting for piscatella
> he used to be mafia
> he used to be an inmate
> he got fucked over by the prisoner pretending to be nice in some major way
> the prisoner got killed due to gang related issues and red is part of that gang
Nothing.
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Just found out Maritza is 30. Some latinas can last.
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>>83843755
But it was a power fantasy. Right from the moment guards acknowledged shots fired and stood there eating donuts while the prison was taken hostage to the point where they managed to subdue piscatella with a novelty "your face here" board.
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>>83841238
t. faggot
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>>83843640
i guess letting them run along freely and shoot other guards would be the safest bet
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>>83843805

>he got fucked over by the prisoner pretending to be nice in some major way

This is what I was expecting. I figured it was going to turn out his boyfriend was the inmate he murdered because he was just leading him on or taking advantage of him. They would have explained why he was so jaded and cruel towards criminals.

But like, his motivations don't even make sense. If his boyfriend was actually a nice person who just happened to be a criminal, you'd think it would make him realize that not everyone is irredeemably bad just because they've made mistakes in their life. Or at least make him recognize that not all criminals are violent and unreasonable. Not the exact opposite.
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>>83843732
nigga even when it was a fucking kindergarten

>They have a gun
>Prisoners shot gun and killed guards
>Guards are missing

>hmmm we dont know what they could do better just not pay attention to them and let them run arround freely doing whatever

>Hmmm should we maybe call for backup?
>Nah man just lets see how this plays out
>No swat or sniper teams or special forces?
>Nah we dont need that we just sit around here at the parking lot sipping our coffee and eating donuts
>hmm whats going on over there?
>oh nothing the prisoners walked outside the front door and talked with the press then they went back inside or something idk i couldnt see I was sitting too far away not paying attention
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I was expecting the writer(s) to overdo the riot (Oz style riot) or the riot to literally be nothing. turned out to be the latter.
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>>83843876
>cherrypicking scenes
>ignoring others
It's almost as if you don't want the prison riot to happen.
At least it wasn't a white hetero
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>>83843918
It doesn't matter because he's a white male. White males are evil. Every antagonist is a white male.
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>>83827386
fpbp
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>>83841250
>all of the black characters were taking advantage of the situation to get free shit
>the white guy felt so much remorse that he tried to kill himself
>even if he lives his life is now ruined forever.
if you ask me this show is portraying real life pretty accurately
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>>83843956
>who's in charge?
>ummm...
>the governor said stand down
Hurry up and wait
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So let me get this straight

At the end of s05 there is still a prison riot? Guards havent took over?
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>>83843898

They didn't know WHO exactly had the gun, what the conditions of the hostages, where they were or what they were being threatened with.

Okay so let's say they shoot the first inmate that walks out. Then what?

>prisoners see that they're fully willing to use violence even though they have hostages
>well what's the point of having hostages if they're going to kill us anyway?
>fuck it let's kill the hostages then

You also keep forgetting that the Governor was specifically ordering them not to harm anyone because it would look bad and didn't relent until the very end after the hostages had been released. If you didn't like it, fine, but most of the stuff you're pointing out was addressed in the show and your so-called solutions would have just led to more casualties overall.
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>>83843963
>be latino male
>get girl pregnant
>run
>be white male
>get cucked
>be guido
>get big titted wife with baby
pretty accurate
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>>83843963
Hey the main antagonist was a GAY white male

I think we're making progress.
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>>83837838
You'd be surprised how different the prison system was a few decades ago. She seems to have been there for quite some time. She says she can't remember if she got busted after killing a cop with his own gun. So she might have just been charged with assault with a deadly weapon/attempted murder on her husband.
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>>83843956

They didn't find out shots had been fired until later and they didn't even know that it was a guard that got shot either until someone accidentally mentioned it. For all your complaining you really don't seem to have paid attention to almost any of this.
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>>83844023
Episode 13 ends on a cliffhanger with the SWAT team closing in on red, tastee, alex, piper, and 6 others who are the last 10 left in the prison after its been cleared. The scene makes it seem like they are in danger but when season 6 starts there will probably be a time skip and nothing happens with that.
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>One comment say you look like a beaner cher
>All the others say Maritza, show your tits
It's almost as if the writers browse /tv
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>>83829649
>becomes a cop to free Ziggy
>transfers to wring criminal facility

You had one job.
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>>83844104
They did though. Stratman says "yup that was shots fired" like 5 minutes after it happens and just ignores it.
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>>83844023

Very last episode has the riot team finally storming the prison because the hostages get free and the Governor is like "fuck it I don't care anymore" and let's them actually do their job. They take back the prison pretty quickly showing that it wasn't incompetence on their part, but rather they literally couldn't act until the Governor let them.

It ends on a cliffhanger with them closing in on Piper, Taystee, Red, Alex, and some others that were hiding in the old pool which Frieda turned into a bunker. All of the other inmates were rounded up and are being bused somewhere unknown.
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>>83844104
im at s05e05
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>>83844173

He was on the inside and it was already established that most of the COs were idiots who didn't really give a shit. The riot team and back-up outside didn't find out until later.
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the guard dying was stupid, they know that any agreement reached with the government would be null and void once it turns out a fucking guard died, even if he was an ass, you can't have inmates get rewarded for killing guards

so instead of guarding him and releasing him asap because he is still in critical condition and they have a bunch of other hostages they leave him alone with 2 retards
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>Poussey only weighed 92 lbs
You could grab her by the pussy with one hand and toss her into the air.
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>>83844230

>they know that any agreement reached with the government would be null and void

They didn't. For as smart as the others see Taystee and how she presents herself, it was obvious that she didn't know shit about how the law worked. She wanted them to just throw Bailey in jail as one of their demands even after Fig outright explained to her that that's not how it worked and he would have to go to court and get tried just like anyone else if charges were pressed. But that wasn't good enough for her. And like you said, even if she did agree to the negotiations they would have been thrown out once it came to light that Humps died.

Most of the prisoners are dumb as fuck and it was clear that Taystee was being irrational and unreasonable.
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>>83838621
Why can't anyone here spell "kooky?" Every fucking time.
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>>83844173
In this case "they" are the riot control team and the governor. Stratman was a fucking hostage, on the inside, with no way to contact out.

This show isn't difficult to understand. Does nobody even pay attention?
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best girl
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>>83844351
>asian lady runs slave nail salon
>convert black woman to judaism to work in muh six gorillion without having a bad chosen
(they) sure know how to work in the agenda.
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>>83844230
>Prisoners in a federal penitentiary are stupid or apathetic
>this is somehow news

The whole point of the season is that the riot was handled poorly by all sides. The prisoners lacked a good strategist and the unity they would need to make the riot a success. The governor cared only about re-election and didn't know ehat he was doing. Piscatella was a psycho. This isn't Prison Break. They didn't even plan the riot. If they did everything like you said it would be more unrealistic.
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/pol in a nutshell
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>>83840559
That's the point. They are all terrible self-destructive people who made shitty life choices.
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>>83844351

More lie 4th best girl.

>1 Maritza
>2 The cute blond guard
>3 Marisol
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>>83829775
tits were just bait to get people (like you) to watch.
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>>83832875
I still blame Crazy Eye. Her shenanigans were funny at first but now she's just annoying. Dunno why they haven't put her ass in psych yet.
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So, we all agree season two is absolute prison kino?
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>>83833048
Does anyone even like Watson? She's just a fucking killjoy. Even the muslim chick is better than her.
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>>83836297
She should be in max.
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>>83844772
>kino
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My favorite season of OITNB is season 3 of Oz.
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>>83834316
The show makes it a point to show you that the
most of the women are in jail because they're horrible cunts. One guard outright says this to one inmate. But it's still pretty preachy despite this.
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>>83827326
So Wentworth S5>OITNB S5 then?
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>>83838621
Fuck off. That was the best back story in the series.
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>>83844755
I dunno why none of the guards or prisoners haven't outright killed her yet? She's obviously too psycho to be around. Imagine being a CO or even worse an inmate around her 24/7 in RL. Besides a few entertaining scenes to laugh at her for as soon as she saw you laugh she'd attack you regardless of who you were. That'd shit would get old fast. Remember in S1 viewers were all "Crazy Eyes is just faking"? Yeah, cause mentally ill dangerous spergshits don't exist.
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>>83844870

I'm pretty sure she's not supposed to be. Everything about her has shown that she caused her own downfall and was just generally dumb as fuck. They killed the friendship she had with Yoga Jones which was the only redeeming thing about her and she hasn't had any other moments since, unless you count comforting Soso sort of. She's just around to be Taystee's yes man and get angry at people.

At least Black Cindy can be funny because she's mostly just a jolly oaf who doesn't take things seriously. There's nothing good about Janae though.
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>>83845477

She's manageable when she's on her meds and none of the old guards ever saw her chimp out or attack someone. As far as they were concerned she's crazy but not dangerous. Even in Season 2 when Vee was trying to frame her for murder, they didn't really treat her as a threat because they didn't know what she was capable of when she goes on her retard rages.

Her actress plays the part well, but I agree her shtick is old at this point and she does nothing but put everyone else in dangerous situations trying to cover for her. But she's a fan favorite so she's likely never going to go away.
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>>83845519
She's not just a yes man, she actively pushed taystee (and the whole prison) in the wrong direction by guilting her into the "justice for poussey" crusade. All while contributing nothing. I'd like to see her get some kind of comeuppance in the next season, I don't think there's a prisoner who is worse.
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>>83841247
Your last point is all that needs to be said. Even if he had training Crazy Eyes could still have fucked things up by fighting him so he couldn't even get off Poussey if he had wanted to.
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>>83841331
>The only reason they got to visit that school in the first place
I thought the school was going to invite them to apply for scholarships or something. I don't think they were merely trying to show off how awesome the school was. But you think like a nigger so I understand why you'd miss that
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torrent where
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>>83840966
Caputo hired that kid in Season 3. Piscatella is Season 4.

Actually, the whole riot mess is mainly Caputo's fault: hiring the incompetent kid as prison guard was negligent and irresponsible, and his refusal to fire fucked up Bayley was the dumbest thing ever.
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This shows really good in my opinion honestly, all the SJW shit people are saying it's pushing I really don't see, none of the prisoners you're supposed to really sympathize for or feel too hard for, they're all usually wrong in their own way and things that work out for them only halfway work out for them.

Like, they do really good at making you realize these are still horrible people at the core.
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>>83837838
She's elderly and got cycled out of max after a while. All the old broads in the min prison are awful compared to the young ones, that was a running joke in the show
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>>83842983
>Male guard that had training
Coates was a new guard where they didnt get properly trained at all. That was literally the point of the show.
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>I thought we were supposed to use minimum force
>hitting defenseless old women who clearly aren't resisting with a baton IS minimal force :^)
>get your pregnant ass on the ground!
>if you want to have fun you can tase them or mace them. oh you can punch them too :^)

This "every authority figure in the show is a sociopath or incompetent" thing is getting old. You'd think they'd come up with something new by this point.
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>>83842983

didn't you listen to the latina? armed junkies are the most dangerous of all
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>>83844956
>they never got their tits out
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>>83849646
This. So fucking annoying. The constant jabs at police/veterans piss me the fuck off and I'm neither of those.
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>>83846141

The only reason these places give out scholarships in the first place is so the white kids don't freak out when they have to go out in the real world and interact with niggers.
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>>83849646
>>83851057

>implying it's not true

maybe in 99% white small town middle america where you live cops are nice
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This was better than the last season with its Bieber cameo at least ...
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Did Bailey even kill Poussay or whatever? Because crazy eyes jumped on the guy while he was restraining her, and I would think that would be enough to crush her lungs.

Also lol at that "muh culture" scene
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I can't fucking stand Laura Prepon

Get rid of her again and the show would be fun enough
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>>83852116
>implying Kubra isn't going to cap that bitch next season
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>>83827996
Dude, this is best reply
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>>83828244

>watching a show about dykes doing gross shit with your aging mom

What
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Girls only (no maritza fags) which is your favorite character?
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>>83828244

I think last year was one of the better seasons.

>waiting forever to find out how crazy eyes got there

It was actually one of the better back stories.

I also wanted to see the hippie yoga lady's to, because that could be interesting. They hinted that she murdered a child .

Instead though of showing the flash backs of actually interesting characters

They did lots of flashbacks for the nigresses and spics that no one gave a fuck about .
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>>83852423
Mendoza is the only answer
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>>83832671

> I was drunk one day and a stocky guy came to my room and I rode his back. He threw me off of him because I was choking him and he weighed at least 50-60 more pounds than I did. That's not really an excuse.

What the fuck did I just read

Can you please elaborate
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>>83852088

Crazy eyes never gets held accountable for being a violent mongoloid.
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>>83852470

She shot some teenager trespassing on her weed plantation because she was drunk and thought it was a deer amongst the plants.
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>>83841331

Yeah .

You have the mind of the nigger.

Just fucking stop
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>open relationship agenda pushing
>mfw they weren't actually pushing an agenda this time

Pleasantly surprised about that scene. Also I'm glad they didn't devote much time to it.
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>>83845477
the guards don't see her go apeshit because the other blacks cover for her and the other prisoners are scared of her so they stay away. no one even treated her well until her story started circulating and people realized she was a bit creative so they gave her a pass
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>a show about hijinx set in a minimum security women's prison somehow constantly tries to be absurdly dramatic despite everything being as low stakes as possible

At least Oz understood that at its foundation it was a black comedy
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>>83851068
>privileged white kids will somehow be forced to interact with ghetto niggers out in the real world
unless they choose to slum it and become social workers i don't see how that's a reality. affluent institutions give scholarships because charity and philanthropy are key tenets of WASP culture. it's how rich people virtue signal to one another.
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>>83846517
Caputo fought against hiring those guards and then he fought to get them more training. You can't lay that shit at Capu-dog's feet. MCC is fully responsible and I'm hoping they get their ass handed to them in the next season
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>>83854659
ehh, i treat OitNB like a black comedy and it works for me. just see the show for what it is (every character is flawed and most are unlikable) and you can appreciate it on a new level
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>>83840667
>>83840622
How could you forget the woman in the flashback who literally freezes to death pissing herself?
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>>83842685
Netflix ought to give customers a vote on which inmates should be able to 'leave' prison so we never have to see Piper and Alex's bullshit again.
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>>83834477
Yeah, that's kind of always beeb Kohan's thing. She's an insufferable SJW herself afaik, but her shows are always about awful things happening to awful people.
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>>83852423
Even though her character development has been all over the place, I can't help but love Red.
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>>83838621
>talking shit about Poussey
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>>83852470
I really liked Crazy Eyes' backstory. It was definitely the most nailbiting one because all this time you expected it to be that she went crazy, got violent, and straight up murdered someone. So when she had that kid with her, you were just fucking waiting for it to go hard south. But it ended up just being a sad, shitty situation.
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>>83853213
She's full on insane, what are they going to do? Hate her? She was only in that position because those guards decided to play dog fight with crazy prisoners who were easy to manipulate.
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>>83832573
Because Taystee was thinking with her emotions and pride. The whole point is that most of these people are in prison for a reason and are incredibly flawed characters. If she was completely competent, people here would be whining about it being an SJW agenda. It turns out they were actually realistic about most prisoners in this situation not being intelligent or logical enough to see it fully through.
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I just got to the part where Taystee tells Figueroa to fuck off because MUH BLM, MUH POUSSEY.

Should I even bother finishing this season? Holy shit how could one person be so fucking selfish and blow everything so hard
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>>83831347
Red left her bf because he was boring and safe, he was a coward, the other guy was also pretty nice to her as far as we know.
There's no reason to believe the blonde security guard wants to get blacked.
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