Can someone Avada Kedavra himself? If so, can that also happen

The wands and wand movements are like training wheels for baby wizards. The good ones don't need to do any of that and just need to focus.

>>83785316

how could a wizard economy sustain itself if you can just conjure anything into existence according to gamp's 5 elemental laws.

>buy 1 butterbeer, conjure 100s from it


WIZARD ECONOMY IS A LIE, VOLDEMORT DID 9/11, HARRY IS A MEDIOCRE FAGGOT

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>>83785361
Fair enough.

>>83785316
>lazy writers

They're using non verbal spells, which are big in the books.

>>83785316
Some spells have a special motion (e.g. swish and flick) that an arm twist would interrupt. Not clear if that applies to Avada Kedavra. I'm pretty sure you have to really want the person dead though or it doesn't work.

>>83785492
I read them up to the Goblet of Fire as a kid and I can hardly remember anything from the books.

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>>83785529
>Not clear if that applies to Avada Kedavra
I remember reading somewhere that AK is supposed to have a movement like pic related, which explains Harry's scar.

>>83785529
>>83785532
In part 5 or 6 the instructors start teaching the kids that they no longer needed to use arm motions, wands, or enchantments if they were proficient enough and focused. The professors were doing silent no wand spells since book 1. It entirely depended on the level of power the wizards had though.

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truly best girl

>trying to find logic in a story where quidditch is a real sport

"No!"

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He could. He could even be in one of the dullest franchises in the history of movie franchises. Each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

>>83785636
by that "logic" there shouldn't be any logic in our world, the real world, as video games are considered sports by a lot of people.

>>83785636
Quidditch is a real sport, college campuses have quidditch teams.

It would be an okay sport if the Snitch wasn't a "fuck you, harry wins" card

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>>83785661

the magic in the series is pretty stupid, don't think about it too much because it really doesn't make much sense

the disarming spell is a god mode cheat level spell that children can use and it pretty much makes all the other 'fight' magic pointless. i don't even think it can be blocked

Would Hogwarts have gender-neutral restrooms in 2017?
After all Dumbledore is canonically gay, we gotta get with the times.

>>83785316
My question is how can one become a more powerful wizard. Like a jedi you have to concentrate and master the force, but with wizarding how do you make a spell more powerful. What do you flex?

>>83785747
Why not carry two wands? One in your pocket in case you get disarmed?

>>83785788
The power of love and friendship, just like in my japanese animes

>>83785788
I think it comes down to inherent ability (some are more 'magical' than others) and just plain old practice. If one could master non verbal spells, and know which ones to use in a given situation, I think they'd be pretty formidable.

>>83785788
All wizards have the same magical potential, some just have a natural boost and others work harder through practice to be more in tune with their mana pool

>>83785864
That's literally propaganda, purebloods almost always have more magical potential.

>>83785797
why not go full blackbeard and have 20 wands strapped to your vest

do the books ever explain Flinch's backstory? i hear his parents were wizards but he didn't have any magical abilities.

>>83785361
>>83785614
That's stupid tho considering Voldemort spends the last book sperging over the ultimate wand. Wands are still necessary to fight.

Why don't wizards just use guns? In the time it takes you to say "avada kedavra" you're gunna be eating lead you stupid wizard fuck

>>83785884
Wrong. Voldemort hated mud bloods because they could become just as powerful as a pure blood

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>>83785899
i like your vision anon

>>83785899
because the wand chooses the wizard.
what are the odds of 20 wands choosing you? i bet not even girls choose you to go on a date.

>>83785901
IIRC they literally say that in one of the books.

>>83785906
No he was sperging out over the Trinity (wand, cape, stone) which would make him immortal and all powerful.

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>>83785942
>i bet not even girls choose you to go on a date.

FUCKING DELET THIS IMMEDIATELY

>>83785901
Not really, but he doesn't have any abilities, yea. He's whats called a squib.

>>83785911
guns dont work in environments with a bunch of magic around.

>>83785942
You can still use a wand that isn't yours, it just won't be quite as good. Or you just disarm the person who originally owned one of the 20 wands and wa la you're the wand's true owner.

>>83785911

the harry Potter universe take place befor the invention of gun

>>83785911
The eagles took all the guns. Which explains why they didn't use them to go ti Mordor.

>>83785963
Rowling admitted a gun would rek all but the most skilled wizards, and combustion still works on Hogwarts grounds so guns would as well

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Dumb series for dumb women and adult children
Did you get bored of 13 reasons why kid?

>>83785840
>>83785864
So it's purely genetics then. Interesting, follow up question is why doesn't everyone drink a warm cup of liquid luck every morning.

>>83785972
>it just won't be quite as good
ok hold up
HOLD UP
what if you tape like 20 stolen wands together into a wand-bat type of thing?
will that be powerful enough?

>>83786016
You would literally be unstoppable

>>83785884
>stormwandfags actually believe this

either you have the gene to preform magic or you dont, anyone who has it has the same ability.

>>83785950
No he cared only about the wand, you dumb. The stone was meant to resurrect people and he didn't care about anyone but himself, and he had no use for the cloack.
He kills Snape just because he thinks he might own the wand.

>>83785995
did she? Wasn't aware of that. But they do state in the books that muggle made objects do go haywire in places like hogwarts, so it's not outside realm of possibility that guns wouldn't work there at least

>wands choose you
Never made sense. They're all mass produced out of wood and other magical shit. Theoretically you could just make 500 wands out of the same materials and they'd all choose you. Just make wand armor out of them

>>83786014
you go mad if you take to much.

>>83786016
the wands would probably say fuck you and backfire for being a cunt, unless you won all those wands dueling other wizards in which case you are now death

why didnt rowling come up with several villains? One could be like general grievous but instead of sabers, he gathers wands

>>83786014
Too much of the stuff makes people reckless. The potion can't save you if you do too much stupid shit, it only works if you go with the flow of things

>>83786054
>muggle made objects do go haywire in places like hogwarts
so why didn't Harry or Hermione's muggle stuff like clothes go apeshit while in school?

>>83785447

I'm confused. Does that lady have an erection?

>>83786090
>why didnt rowling come up with several villains?
Because it's a children's series and she needed a clear cut Good vs Evil. The only character who wasn't completely 1 dimensional was Snape, and his motives were literally because he's a cuckold - and he died right after they revealed he was good all along

>>83786069
their made by hand by wandmakers, bro. So each one is unique.

>>83786080
sweet

>>83786069
Just make wand armor out of them

holy fuck you're on to something

>>83786016
>gatling wand

its just 12 wands held together with ruberbands but every time you cant a spell you get eleven extra cast

>>83786090
>why didnt rowling come up with several villains?
The books are packed with villains tho.

>>83786137
Okay just have the wand maker make you 500 of the same wand. Or better yet teach yourself to make your own damn wands.

>>83786113
no her babby does

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>>83785998
one of these films is not like the other

>>83786148
>quirrel
>ends up being voldemort

>tom riddle
>ends up being voldemort

>book 3 has no villain

>book 4
>ends up being one of voldemort's servants

>book 5
>voldemort again

>book 6
>voldemort and his assistants

>book 7
>...

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Why are you looking for logic in a poorly written series for children? Do you watch ""capekino"" too or something

>>83785661
You forgot to edit the begibning of the pasta from the Sirius black thread, faggot

>>83786105
electronics go haywire, mechanical stuff like trains or guns still work fine.

>>83786148
but they are all working for Voldy with the exception of Grindelwald, who is old news anyways

>>83786170

Makes sense.

I read somewhere that over 75% of babies are sexual deviants.

>>83786160
I think wand making is a master/apprentice type thing, and there's only ever a handful of active wandmakers in the magical world at any given time.

I don't think they have wand shortages though, because some wands could have been made like 50 years ago and sit on a shelf until the right wizard/witch comes along and the wand chooses them

>>83786181
>book 3 was the best

Really makes you think.

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>>83786184
Seriously this board is for adults too and film
If you want to discuss childrens novels try /mu/

>>83786186
>or guns
hah. so guns WOULD pwn those gay-ass magic mofos even in hogwass

>>83786181
Sirius is the villain in book 3, fwiw. Even if he turns out to be a good guy

We'll never have a Harry Potter movie where the humans realize that magic exist and go full war on the wizarding world due to wizards being dicks

>>83785316
Voldemort is killed by his own rebounding Avada Kedarva so yeah.

>>83785316
Jesus she is so hot

>>83786235
>werewolves are less than 0.5% of the wizard population
>they commit over 60% of the maulings

Why should we let these monsters teach our children again?

>most powerful spell is abra kadabra
what did rowling mean by this?

>>83786266
>Voldemort is killed by his own rebounding Avada Kedarva so yeah.
Again. This nigga managed to die twice the same way, and against the same motherfucker, what an achievement.

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>>83785620
I think they overdid it with the teeth.

I would let pic related do illegal things to me then write about it in the papers.

>>83786269
ikr, i wanna be her little fucktoy
i bet shes into all sorts of magic bdsm shit. like, imagin all the deviantart fandom shit come to life through magic

>>83785906
He's looking for a wand to beat Harry originally.
>>83785950
He neither knew nor cared about the hallows. Dumbledore said it himself. Doesn't need the cloak to hide and doesn't care about anyone to bring back from the dead.

>>83786349
But Harry was THE CHOSEN ONE. He completely represents millenial children. And Voldemort was DRUMPF

>>83786360
fucking numale

Why was Fudge so forgiving of Harry for using magic outside of school in front of muggles just for shits and giggles by blowing up his aunt, but then nearly sent him to Azkaban for casting a patronus charm to save his own life and the one of his cousin?

>>83786289
Wolfsbane potion is a thing. Try reading the Daily Prophet sometime, dingus.

>>83786381
>implying you wouldnt let her transform you into a maxipad for her to wear 24/7

what are you, a homosexual?

>>83786415
Political agenda

>>83785998
>Avatar
kek

>>83786374
no, both Harry and Nevile were the Chosen One(s)

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Are we the baddies?

>>83785963
Guns work. Electricity gets all wonky and goes out. Only around large areas of concentrated magic though. The schools, the ministry, the hospital.
A wizard's house in the middle of a muggle area won't do it.

>>83786430
I'm not a numale reddit spacer so no

Threadly reminder, Harry is a horocrux, which are known to cause people to turn into ass holes due to long exposure. Harry is the sole reason why his family are dicks and unhappy, but did Harry ever apologize? NO

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>>83785998
>Citizen Bane
Everytime

>>83786464
I always wondered... Do Death Eaters dress like Clansmen in the books, or was that a movie invention?

>>83786474
homosexual detected xD

>>83785316
How is Avada Kedavra the worst spell when Peter Pettigrew managed to kill like 10 people with one?

>>83786553
>trying to correct your numale way now
Pathetic and disgusting. Do you play videogames too?

>>83786554
Abra Kadabra was only one of the forbidden spells. It was definitely not the only lethal one. It was a one way ticket to Azkavan though because it caused a tortuous, painful death and trapped your soul in the wand it was cast (which is why ghosts were summoned in the fight Harry had with Voldemort).

>AS SOON AS I FIND SERIUS I'M AK'ING THE CUNT
>oh no wait don't kill Peter, my dad wouldn't do that

What did he mean by this?

>>83786181
>book 2
>Lockhart

>book 5
>Fudge and UMBRIDGE
>how do you leave out Umbridge?

>>83786554
I wouldn't say the killing curse is the worst as far as killing goes. That huge firestorm spell (Fiendfire I think) can burn down a whole building and burn everyone inside to death, which I would say is worse than a clean avada kedavra death.

>>83786477
this.

not only that, but there is a deleted scene in part 7 where his cousin apologizes to HARRY like a cuck.

>>83786630
I know you got a lot of that from book 4 but that still all sounds like headcanon. AK is supposed to be instantaneous I think.

>>83785661
holy fucking shit those book tiers are the worst fucking thing i've ever seen REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>83786680
>but that still all sounds like headcanon
The entire series is inconsistent headcannon from Rowling. This thread alone proves how much contradiction was in her books.

>>83785661
>>83786684
that image has to be bait, right?

>>83786630
>it caused a tortuous, painful death
What?
I remember they saying the person simply dropped dead, with no physical trauma whatsoever.

>>83786630
Its not your soul that's trapped in a wand ... it's an echo of the last thing your wand did.

>>83786754
So why was harry able to get a pep talk from Snape, his parents, dumbledore and everybody else voldemort killed?

>>83786710
You not understanding things doesn't mean its inconsistent

>>83786713
Mostly yeah, but everything in shit tier is accurate

>>83786710
Point me to some. These threads are always filled with faggots with poor memories. The only glaring bullshit in the books that I see consistently mentioned is the whole time turner nonsense.

>>83786791
>wand picks the person. They only worm for one wizard.
>never mind now there's dueling, wands work for you but they aren't as powerful or backfire
>oops never mind anything goes.

LUNA > HERMIONE > NYMPHADORA > LAVENDER > BELLATRIX > GINNY > CHO > NARCISSA

If you disagree you are gay.

>>83786873
bellatrix > *

>>83786783

That wasn't from a wand, that was from the hallow, the resurrection stone

>>83786783
because harry has schizophrenia. as a matter of fact, the magical world doesn't exist. it's all in his tormented head.

>>83786783
Snape coming out of the wand never happened in either the movies or the books. Again youre remembering it wrong. And again its an echo or something. They kinda just remember what they were doing when they got killed and see what's going on around them now. And they only last as long as the wand is being forced to priore incantartum

>>83786836
>They only worm for one wizard
Where does it say this
>wands work for you but they... backfire
I don't think this ever happened with a regular wand. Harry/Voldemort's relationship is described as exceedingly rare or something like that so that's out too.

Do you think femaleand some male wizards masturbate with their wands?

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>>83786915
What did your fellow numales think when you told them?

>>83786950
what the fuck is it with brits and mean school teachers? are they really that horrible?

>>83785390
I think it's implied that most wizards simply aren't good enough to do all of those things. Most witches and wizards only seem able to do some pretty basic shit when they finish their education (if they even go to a wizarding school to begin with).

Hermione understood Gamp's laws, but transfiguration was notoriously difficult, so it was only with considerable skill and determination that she'd be able to duplicate food.

They even establish in the books that apparition is so difficult that most wizards don't even bother to learn it. They'd rather use a broomstick, or enchant a vehicle, or use the Knight Bus, or use the Floo Network.

It seems like most wizards are pretty fucking lazy or dumb.

>>83786950
One of the better parts of the books desu.

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>>83786873
Whatever floats your boat I guess.

>>83786940
i sure would

>>83786940
>vibrato maxima

>>83786836
>They only work for one wizard.
Was never a thing, half the wands Harry picked up in Olivanders worked fine.

>never mind now there's dueling, wands work for you but they aren't as powerful or backfire
Again, it was never said that you couldn't use somebody else's wand just that it wouldn't work as well as your own, which the concept of duelling wands supports.

>>83786950
Did the centaurs rape her?

>>83786979
>They even establish in the books that apparition is so difficult that most wizards don't even bother to learn it.

Or could be the fact that the book even states how a decent amount of wizards teleport themselves into a wall or volcano and die. Floo Network and the many other teleportation methods are a lot safer. Broom seems like a shit tier way of travel which is only used for covert ops

>>83786836
Nobody ever said that wands only work for one person. Never. In the first book and movie Ron says even his wand his his brother's hand me down.
They just kinda bond with you if you're lucky. Ollivander was just an autist about his craft and had Harry try a hundred out.
The only wand to backfire was Ron's busted ass one that he taped together.

>>83786934
The Elder Wand had special rules. If i'm not mistaken it had a master and if you weren't its master and tried to use it against its true master it would backfire on you, but would otherwise work just fine.

>>83786805
>Twain & Bronte
>Shit tier
ok mate

>>83786988
I would still do today's Luna, but of course I was going by the movies' standards.

>>83787074
wasn't voldemort using it constantly to kill people? it just didn't work as well as he hoped it would

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>during my high school graduation seniors only party at my school part of the tradition was that the students could make fun of a few teachers and the teachers had to be ok with it
>one of the teachers had to "be a gaylord"
>students made him wear glitter scarfs and a pink fedora and he had to act faggy
>he kept screaming "I'M SO GAY FUCK ME IN THE ASS I'M SO GAY" while doing an effeminate dance
>students would throw eggs at and sauces on him while calling him a faggot
>this was 2014
Times have changed.

>>83787102
Yeah but chances are she was going to grow up to look like that in the movies too

>>83787104
>but would otherwise work just fine.
What I meant by that was that if you used it against someone other than its master it would work.

>>83786979
>duplicate food
Food is one the 5 universal exceptions to Gamps law though. You can't duplicate food.

>>83787129
what the fuck

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>>83787129
Do you think hes a bern out?
also
>2014
This whole thing just didn't reach your school yet. It was full swing in 2014

>>83785684
better yet, make it that the match goes on until a certain but long time limit goes on, or the snitch is caught and the rest of the game is still decided by the score, that would make it more tactical, wait until your team scores enough to overtake the enemy, go on the defensive and send one of your dudes to go catch the snitch to end the game before the other team can retaliate

>>83787129
reminds me of when i used to go to hogwarts. we had this queer headmaster who would do the same shit, but not as part of some tradition or play

daily reminder hermione got KRUMED

>>83787154
You can't transfigure food out of something else or create it out of thin air, but you can increase the amount if you have food already:

"It’s impossible to make good food out of nothing! You can Summon it if you know where it is, you can transform it, you can increase the quantity if you’ve already got some..." - Hermione

>>83787058
Teleporting into a volcano would kind of fall under the purview of "so difficult that most wizards don't even bother to learn it."

>>83787074
As far as I know, there were no special rules regarding the Elder Wand. Using any wand against its true master would cause it to not work properly. Wands were almost described as being sentient and telepathically linked to the wizard or witch that it chose. The Elder Wand was just a particularly powerful item that gave its allegiance (as well as its power) to anybody who defeated its previous master. If Harry manages to stay undefeated and dies, the power of the wand would fade away, too.

>>83787225
It's still a bit tactical the way it is. The snitch ends the game but catching it does not mean your team wins, it's just worth a lot of points. If the other team is too far ahead then catching it would end the game and make your team lose, so waiting until your team made a comeback would be the tactic in this case.

>>83787376
>The snitch ends the game but catching it does not mean your team wins, it's just worth a lot of points

Scoring a normal goal was worth 1-3 points. The Snitch was worth 500 points.

>>83787129
ahahahahahaha

>>83787447
In the books they say that some games would go on for days, and one team could be so far ahead that not even catching the snitch would win the game for the other team.

>>83787129
>all white anti-gays
Where is this?

>>83787447
Again where do you guys come up with this stuff? They had to explain the rules over and over and over in every book.
Snitch is 150 instant points and game over. Quaffles are 10 points every goal.

>>83787529
really quaffles my snitch if you know what I mean

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>>83787129

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>>83787607

>>83787129
Russia?

>>83786016
>they call me revolver Wesley
>pulls out 6 wands held together with rubber bands
>6 wands, more than enough to kill anything that moves

>>83785963
What part of a gun doesn't work with magic around. Does basic mechanics stop working, or does the gunpowder not ignite.

>>83787801
The rounds get stuck in their clips and the hammer can't hit the back of the shots if they're stuck in the hand holdy part

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>>83786016
I want a fucking drawing

>>83786644
You're right, Umbridge is the only villian that doesn't have anything to do with Voldemort... Until she works for Voldemort

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>>83787848
>clips

>>83787848
>clips

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>>83785906
>a wand made by Death that literally makes it's owner incapable of losing
>why would any want that?!
>>83786041
>a small, easily concealable stone that makes one immortal
>why the fuck would VOLDEMORT want that?!
>>83786371
>voldemort desperately wanted 1/3 of the Deathly Hallows
>because he didn't know what the Deathly Hallows were, obviously!

>>83787906
fuck off

>>83787848
>clips
What about bolt action or single action rifles

>>83787971
Banned in england. There's no way they could get in

>>83787996
nigga they are wizards.
if they can secretly import huge-ass dragons from Romania i'm sure they can secretly import a fucking rifle.

>>83788055
Nope. Gun free zone

>>83786054

Probably referring to digital shit like televisions and radio.

A gun should work fine.

>makes bitcoins appear from thin air
>trade them for wizard gold
What now, ministry of magic?

>>83787154

you can though, you just can't fabricate it from non-existence, you can duplicate food.

>>83786054
They state that Muggle technology goes haywire, not just objects in general. And by technology, she was referring to pretty much anything that runs on electricity.

Of course, it's just plotonium. Apparently, you can enchant certain muggle tech and suddenly it can work, but that's just for convenience.

Why do common house elves seem to be more powerful than your average wizard? Are they? And if so, why won't they revolt? Are they cucks?

>>83786873
>Narcissa at the end
End yourself, my man.

>>83788280
Pretty much they like being mistreated to an extent

>>83786521
Their hats aren't pointy in the book, but they wear the skull masks, yes. Film 5 and onwards ditched the hat, but also changed the masks into easily indentifiable unique pieces for every Death Eater.
So the real deal would be a mixture of both costume styles.

>>83787951
The legend of the Elder Wand grew seperate from the Hallows. Voldy didnt even care about the Elder Wand until Harrys wand blew up Malfoys. Then he wanted to know the most powerful wand ever

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>>83787793
>Not revolver Weasley
You dun goofed

>>83786630
Death by Avada Kedavra is instantaneous. Your soul doesn't get trapped inside the wand, that was the phenomenon called Priori Incantatem, where if two wands sharing the same core are forced to duel one another they display the last few curses they cast in reverse order. Those ghosts were after-images of the people that the wand had killed.

>>83787373
>>83788198
This is why I scrapped a "ACCEPTABLE" in Transfiguration on my O.W.L.S.
>>83787887
Lockhart then? Keep moving goalposts

>>83790123
None of that is true, fuckwit. The Elder Wand being unbeatable goes hand in hand with its origin. And Voldemort wanted the Elder Wand because his wand kept syncing with Harry's(due to their shared cores), preventing him from killing Harry. That's why he took Malfoy's dad's wand, ya goddamn dipshit.

>>83786940
>>83787027
Good question haha.

Do you think some wizards transform themselves into small aquatic insects and then hide in the girls' toilets and wait for the pee and/or poop? asking for a friend haha

>>83790138

cc: /sp

>>83787040
roughly and repeatedly

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>>83788157
Wizards can't use computers. Your plan is shite.

>>83787951
The stone doesn't make you immortal. It summons echoes of your deceased loved ones that only you can see. Voldemort has 0 loved ones and therefore does not care. He turned it into a Horcrux because it was a heirloom of Slytherin's, and Horcruxes (and the elixir of life from the philosophers stone) are the only things that make you immortal.

>>83785963
It's only electricity that doesn't work on the Hogwarts grounds. Gunpowder clearly works: there's multiple instances of fireworks being used throughout the series, and mechanical devices like pocketwatches also work, so there's no reason a device like a gun, which is a much more simple design, wouldn't also work. Fancy red dot sightswouldn't work, but the guns themselves would be fine.

>>83790502
>The stone doesn't make you immortal. It summons echoes of your deceased loved ones that only you can see
Holy fuck. You are effectively retarded. In that very same scene the stone brought Harry back from the dead after Voldemort killed him.

Why was Avada Kedavra such a boring spell? Just a green flash and the person is dead. I never enjoyed seeing it in the movies. There were so many other more cool spells.

>>83790557
Read the book or watch the movie again.
He does not have the stone on him when he goes to confront Voldemort.
He drops it once he's had a chat with the spirits of the Marauders and his Mum, who tell him that dying is not so bad and that they will be at his side when it happens.

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>>83790561
>instantly murders someone
>boring

>>83790561
It's simple, effective, and exudes a terrible, blunt finality. I always found it horrifying.

>>83790557
Harry wasn't "brought back from the dead", Voldemort's second killing curse only killed the part of his soul that was trapped inside Harry.

>>83790561
It's not meant to be cool, it's meant to get the job done.

>>83790672
He dropped the stone so the Death Eaters wouldn't find it on his person, retard. The effect of the stone had already been applied. That's what the glowing ghosts bit was all about, you irredeemably moronic twat. The stone brought him back, which is the entire reason Dumbledore fucking gave it to him.
>>83790725
Wrong. That's not how the spell works, dingus. Why the fuck do you think Harry went to limbo and chatted with a dead guy? Why the fuck do you think Dumbledore gave Harry the stone?

>>83790362
What? We agree on the twin cores. Voldy didnt care about the elder wand until Harrys blew up Malfoys. He thought it was only connected to HIS wand. Once he realized it was more than that and retortured Ollivander and again ABOUT EVERYTHING WAND RELATED and then he heard about the elder wand.
He learned about the ELDER WAND FROM OLLIVANDER WHO DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE HALLOWS WHEN HARRY ASKED HIM

Voldemort only knew of elder wand from the legend of the Ubeatable Wand. Very few people know about the Hallows. That's why everyone thinks the mark is just Grindlewalds logo.

>>83790814
>the effect of the stone had already been applied
>that's what the glowing ghost bit was all about

No, the glowing ghost bit was about the fact that death is an inevitable inconvenience we all face and have to accept, but just because people we love have died, doesn't mean we can't remember them fondly ("We'll be right here" [points to his heart]) and that we shouldn't waste our life trying to bring them back (hence him dropping the stone). It's a theme that has been present in the books since the first one. That's literally why Voldemort, the baddie, is afraid of death and Harry, in the end, is not. Rowling used the books to deal with her mother's death from MS.

>>83790561
Cause death can happen in just a flash

>>83791140
The stone brought him back from the dead, you fucking retard. That could not be more obvious. That's what the stone fucking does. That's why it was made.
>Death, craft me a stone that will make me immortal!
>How about a stone that reassures you that death isn't so bad right before you die?
>Good enough!
You're fucking retarded.

>>83791082
Malfoy's wand blew up because it wasn't Voldemort's. That it. The wand has to choose the wizard, but the Elder Wand only has to be won. That's why Voldemort wanted it. At that point in time the Elder Wand and the Deathly Hallows were just an old fairy tale for children. Ron knew about them, but Harry and Hermione didn't because they grew up muggles.

>>83791262
>Death, craft me a stone that will make me immortal!

Is not what the brother wanted. He wanted something to bring back his loved one from the dead.
That's what the stone does, but only as echoes. It's like the Mirror of Erised in book 1 - it allows the user to get lost in their dreams but doesn't offer the real deal. As such, the hallow is actually quite dangerous, as it prevents you to move on from your grief. The brother an hero'ed because of this, and did not respawn. If the power of the stone was actually truly bringing the dead back to life, why was the brother not resurrected? Hm? It's just a fancy magic holoprojector.

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>>83786988

>>83785390
>implying transfigured stuff is permanent

>>83785316
why didn't harry just shoot voldemort?

>>83787225
Shut up, Eliezer.

>>83791460
>the brother lived unreasonably long
>the stone had nothing to do with it
>Dumbledore gave Harry the stone so he could die, erase the horcrux, and come back to defeat Voldemort, but the stone doesn't do that
>Harry did in fact die and come back, but the RESURRECTION STONE had nothing to do with it

>>83786684
>the dog book isn't god tier
>there isn't a super-ultimate-best tier for Kanye

It's meticulously put together except those two

>>83786554
What are you talking about? Pettigrew used some kind of explosion spell to kill those Muggles. He's too shitty a wizard to be capable of AK.

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Ginny was best girl

>>83791745
Her British genes were kicking in early

>>83791661
The brother who lived unreasonably long is the one with the invisibility cloak, because "Death could never find him".
The other brothers die early. Stone guy kills himself, Elder Wand guy gets murdered in his sleep.
Reminder that the true Master of the Hallows is the one who accepts it (Harry), not the one who tries to escape it (Voldemort). That's why the final brother and Death "greet each other as old friends" in the end and depart together.

>mfw Rowling released new books

How are they? I haven't read anything by her since Deathly Hollows.

>>83791840
"Book Eight" was an utter piece of shit on the level of My Immortal.

>>83790814
Dumbledore literally said to him that everything was happening in his head. Harry's being in limbo didn't indicate that he was dead. He basically had a choice (symbolized by the train station) to come back to the world of the living, or to "board a train" and then he'd be dead. Christ man, between the book and the movie this was all spelled out pretty clearly.

>>83791840
Book 8 is the "cursed child" play where Whoreminey is black and it wasn't even written by JK

>>83791840
She hasn't, though. Cursed Child is ghostwritten by the playwrights, feels nothing like Harry Potter and has an asinine, canon-breaking plot.
The only other new book is the screenplay for Fantastic Beasts, so just watch the movie.
The 2001 charity books have been reissued, but the only thing new about them is the dust jacket and 5 new entries in Fantastic Beasts of new cryptids created for the movie.

Why doesn't she just make more very potter? A new book would practically be a new yacht AMD her popularity is waning

>>83791890
>Dumbledore literally said to him that everything was happening in his head. Harry's being in limbo didn't indicate that he was dead
No, Dumbledore literally said it was happening in his head AND it was real, stupid.

>>83791853
>>83791890
>>83791957
Ty lads

Why didnt voldemort literally just go kill all the mudbloods outside of horgwhats?

>>83791262
>>83790814

God I hope you're trolling and that you're not really too fucking retarded to follow along with the plot of goddamn Harry Potter of all things.

>>83792073
Because he wanted to become the Wizard Fuehrer first.

>>83787906
Back to >leddit

>>83792073
>why didn't hitler just walk around shooting all the jews?

>>83792073
>Killing thousands of people with close links to Muggle Britain
That sounds like a recipe for getting the Muggle government involved--and then the International Confederation of Wizards would intervene, due to endangerment of the secrecy of wizardkind.

The entire point of Voldemort's plan to take over the government of Magical Britain is so that he can build up an army and THEN kill all the mudbloods without regard for the Statute of Secrecy and the ICW.

>>83787529
>every source of points is a multiple of 10
fucking number inflation, just do 1 and 15 instead

>>83792140

>women
>understanding sports

>>83792140
>handegg
>touchdowns are worth 7 points, but sometimes 6 for no reason

>>83792224
Touchdowns are worth 6 points, ya neckbeard. The extra point is extra and requires a field goal or 2-point conversion.

>>83787906
Please stop.

>>83785361
Speaking the words isn't necessary. The wand is kind of like a conduit for magic. It can happen without a wand but its not specifically controllable

>>83792272
Oh that's not arbitrary at all

>>83792140
That would fuck with house points, since Quidditch score is directly added to the sum total. Adjusting the score for the house cup accordingly would mean teachers would have the give 0,05 points for a good answer and subtract a whopping 2 points for, say, blowing up a toilet. That neither sounds like an achievement, nor like punishment. Bad psychology.

>>83792138
>and then the International Confederation of Wizards would intervene

Friendly reminder that the reason why nobody outside the UK cared about Voldemort was because they knew what a shitty and corrupt government they already had in place. They were waiting for Voldemort to take power so that they could then intervene and "liberate" Britain and install a government that doesn't mindrape muggles until they get Alzheimer's and leave itself open to people like Voldemort bribing and threatening their way into government power from the shadows. Hell, the ministry even put Arthur Weasley, the guy who can't figure out a rubber ducky, in charge of dealing with enchanted muggle items. Dude clearly didn't get the job because of any merit, but because of his fullblood ancestry.

Was there a single good politician shown?

>>83785390
An economy based on matter is dumv since it can be created however an economtmy based on magical energy is perfect since they cant create it.

Basically you buy shit by giving away magical energy in terms of watts.

What would happen if you got shot by 50 avdada kablabas at once?

>>83792305
>implying House Points aren't just randomly given to Gryffindor at the end because fuck Slytherin

>>83792298
It's actually not. If every field goal was worth 1 then the difficulty of getting a field goal that's not an extra point makes going to field goals kind of pointless. If a touchdown is only worth 2 points then extra points can be more important than the actual touchdown. And if the extra points aren't there and everything is only worth 1 or 2 points then ties are more likely to happen, which would cause way too many overtime games.

>>83792330
First one to hit you kills you dead. The rest don't matter.

Good thing microbes and monads don't count as life to the curse. Or do they? When Avada hits you, do you become sterilized as well because it also kills all micro-orgsnisms?

>>83785911
Their wands are more dangerous than missiles.

Sure in Rowlings eye a guy can just say Explodicus Humus and then the wand shoots a current of energy that makes you explode.

In reality such a thing would revolutionize warfare to absurd levels


Even the energy beams with no heat limit would amazing.

>>83792423
Canon Muggle/Wizard war when

>>83792058
That doesn't mean he was dead. You seem to think that the scene in the train station indicates that Harry was killed by the killing curse. It doesn't mean this at all.

As for your argument about the resurrection stone granting immortality, at no point is this power ever mentioned in the book or movies. The three deathly hallows make someone "the master of death" because of their individual abilities. The elder wand makes you unbeatable in a fight, the resurrection stone allows you to call back loved ones from the grave, and the invisibility cloak allows you to hide from death. They don't have some gestalt effect of making you immortal.

>>83785911
>blocked by a simple shield spell
>the Weasley twins' shield hats block bullets easy-peasy

>>83787906
fuggg

test

>>83792420
Abra Kadabra doesnt do any visible damage meaning it instantly kills you by shutting down every cell in your brain.

>>83792420
Doesn't AK have some sort of destructive effect on non-living targets? It either causes them to catch fire or it blasts them apart, I don't remember which.

>>83792420
I remember reading some theory about Avada Kedavra once being a healing spell that killed germs and microbes, keeping people healthy. All based on the RL-history of the word Abracadabra being a word put on amulets to ward from sickness. Since humans obviously got that from Avada, then maybe Avada was initially a good spell. Then someone either cast a more powerful spell that killed the person, or you need to be a good wizard to just kill the germs.

At least it explains the whole Avada Kedavra/Abracadabra thing. Seems rather silly for that spell to be the one used by RL magicians if it's the scariest one.

>>83785316
I thought the killing curse was more about having a strong desire to kill the person rather than the words or anything

so I feel like if they turned it around on you it wouldn't work

>>83792335

Harry vanquished the dracula though, he deserves all the points

>>83792458
>implying there'd be a war

The muggles literally can't do shit even if the wizards come clean. We can't even deal with some goat-fuckers wearing clear "we are the baddies"-outfits while hiding out in caves. We would just end up killing other muggles while the wizards were snickering, safe in their houses that all have spells that just makes any muggle walk off, if they're even visible.

>>83785661
>german shepherd book not god tier
wew lad

>>83792468
>the killing curse doesn't kill you

>>83785972
>wa la
How old are you?

>>83787704
it looks like East Coast USA

>>83785972
>Or you just disarm the person who originally owned one of the 20 wands and wa la you're the wand's true owner.
That's only true of the Elder Wand. A few random wands here or there might have that sort of inclination, but normal wands don't switch allegiances like that.

>>83792856
It doesn't when you're dealing with horcruxes. That's literally why Voldemort had a hard-on for the goddamn things, because every other deadly spell he could block, but there's no way to block or survive the killing curse, meaning that no matter how fucking good you are as a wizard you could get ganked by a random asshole who hates you. Unless you have a horcrux keeping your soul anchored on Earth.

Harry being a horcrux also kept him anchored while the slice of Voldy soul got destroyed.

>>83785661
there it is

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>>83791745
fuckin square head

>>83793023
None of that is true. Horcruxes don't keep you from dying, they just allow you to be brought back to life. What the fuck did you think that fetus Voldemort was? Why did you think Wormtail did that spell in GoF?

>all powerful wizard
>jobs to harry in the end

Great "writing", hack rowling.

>>83793080
>all powerful wizard
>so afraid of an old man he sends a child to kill him
kek

>>83785316
the wizards cast other spells on themselves so yes i would say you can avada kedavra yourself

also doesnt someoen die from having it reflected onto them?

>>83793190
>also doesnt someoen die from having it reflected onto them?
Yes. That's what killed Voldemort.

>>83793074
>Horcruxes don't keep you from dying

That's literally all they fucking do.

Normally the killing spell kills your soul. That's why people killed by it have no outward appearances of violence. It just snuffs out your life-force(AKA soul). It was because of the extraordinary circumstances of the killing curse rebounding(something that's never happened as far as anyone knows) that caused Voldy's body to be destroyed the first time, leaving him a disembodied soul roaming the world and shit. If he'd just been killed by a regular Avada spell he would have already had a vessel to put his roaming soul into: his own body. He wouldn't have required all the extra work of creating a body that wouldn't be harmed by Harry's touch, which is why he didn't have the body-making spell at the ready from the very beginning. It was something he had to figure out when dying didn't work out like he'd planned, and when he found out that Harry could kill his vessels just by touching them for some reason.

In Harry's case there's yet another extraordinary circumstance, since he's a living inadvertent horcrux. In this instance the killing curse DID snuff out the soul and leave the body unharmed, only it was the piece of Voldy's soul that got snuffed out, because reasons. Then Harry either has visions or just dreams, depending on your interpretation of the trainstation shenanigans. At no point was he brought back to life by the stone because he wasn't goddamn killed.

Why didn't Snape just brew himself some Felix Felicis to get Lily to be his girlfriend? Or to not get instantly BTFO by Voldemort?

>>83785972

>and wa la youre the wands true owner
>wa la
Want to guess how I know you're American?

>>83786105
I would read that erotic fan fic

>>83785661
>so many replies from people who have never seen this
I don't care WHAT moot said, summer is real goddamnit.

>>83793994
>being surprised about newfags on /tv/

/tv/ is normie-central with a constant influx of newfags, anon. That's part of why it gets spammed to shit and has such terrible conversations about movies, because it's filled with people who just jumped on here after watching the newest capeshit movie. You ALWAYS get a bunch of fuckers who has never seen that picture, or pretend to have never seen it to "troll", summer or not.

>>83790561
Not unlike a gunshot to the head

abra cadabra!

>>83786415
He got a warning already to cut that shit out. They dont care about the muggles anyways

>>83785998
Bicycle Thieves - good
Citizen Kane - good
The Searchers - slow and boring. Watch Rio Bravo instead if you want a John Wayne western
Singin' in the Rain - great
Vertigo - Hitchcock's best, i.e. mediocre
Sunrise - haven't seen
Tokyo Story - haven't seen
2001 - some good scenes but too slow
Avatar - good
The Passion of Joan of Arc - haven't seen
Seven Samurai - it's a slower and more boring version of The Magnificent Seven
The Rules of the Game - it's a slower and more boring version of a Wes Anderson movie

>>83792856
Harry was in a once-in-history type situation; at no point had any other wizard fragmented his soul so severely. He wasn't killed that time by the killing curse because the fragment of Voldemort's soul in him took the hit for him. If he had been hit by it in his duel with Voldemort afterward he would have been dead.

>>83786430
>>implying you wouldnt let her transform you into a maxipad for her to wear 24/7

Aw shit. That gave me a boner anon. Imagine just being her mindless pad and absorbing all her fluids without being able to say no.

So it turns out that like most interesting things in HP fiction, "AK requires murderous intent" is fanon. (I haven't actually read the books or watched the movies). By canon rules it seems accidentally killing yourself with it is possible.

>>83795033
If im not wrong, to cast one of the three curses, you need to mean it.

It was my understanding that Harry survived voldy's killing curse in book 7 because he had a horcrux himself, the original curse that gave him his scar put a little of voldy's soul in him, and a little of HIS soul in voldy, but the power of motherly love protects him, and he was pure, so his soul didn't suffer the degradation that voldy's went through

So when the killing curse connects in book 7, harry's consciousness moves into his soul fragment in limbo, which presumably is what happens in general when a horcrux'd person dies, and Harry's healthy soul beats out voldy's degraded soul to get back into Harry's body

>>83794442
Reddit please die

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>>83786215
>it's an every popular thing is bad episode
>it's a look at me I'm so contrarian and edgy episode
>it's an I hate fun episode
>it's a stop liking what I dislike episode
>it's a someone tries to convince others that there is only one good kind of taste episode
>it's a hivemind episode
>it's a manchild calls other manchildren manchildren episode
>it's a pleb calls others pleb episode
>it's a well, you're kinda right, but you're still an insufferable asshole episode
>it's an I don't even know why I'm still on 4chan episode
>it's a plebbitors will call me plebbitor for this post episode
>it's a someone will say you're mad for this post

>>83785316
you have to actually mean the forbidden spells in order for them to truly work. So no, it probably wouldn't work for you.
but it would for me

>>83785747
Snape blocked the shit out of it though

>>83786415
Blowing up his aunt was accidental

if you can become so proficient in magic that you no longer need to say the spell or do a specific gesture with the wand to cast it, why don't wizards try to fake each other out by yelling out spells they aren't actually casting?

for example, whatever the name of the charm is that instantly fills your mouth with delicious chocolate, yell that in a duel, but actually in your head cast avada kedarvra.

What always bugged me is that Snape had a textbook edited by him that was the proper way to make potions well or better. But he made his students use textbooks that he himself thought were wrong when he was a kid.

bit of a dick.

>>83794442
You're replying seriously to a Quentin post. Lurk another year before posting.

>>83799081
>Snape acting like a dick

So out of character smdh

>>83785529
Do the motion while pointing at your other hand. Problem solved?

>>83785636
>quaffles are pointless because the snitch is worth 150 points hurr durr
That's exactly the point, dumbass. It makes the rest of the team work their asses off so they don't lose if they don't catch the snitch.

>>83786415
Fudge stopped liking Harry because he started talking about Voldemort's return.

>>83786415
He couldn't let Harry be expelled from school because Sirius Black was (allegedly) after him.

>>83787040
Probably not, the books described her to have no visible damage after the incident.

>>83787906
Idiot.

>>83785361
The wands and to a lesser extent the hand movements are necessary, the spoken words aren't

>>83787906
sigh

>>83795676
Harry survived because Lily more or less creates a love shield by dying for him. Harrys soul is never split. It just has part of Voldemorts hanging out in him.

>>83799081
Because Snape doesnt care about teaching at all. He's just stuck in the job. He hates most of the kids and hates most of his coworkers.

>>83786979
>It seems like most wizards are pretty fucking lazy or dumb.
well, they are British

>>83786096
>>83786072
why didn't Voldemort take it and gave it to death eaters before final battle? or just took it after he was reborn and went out to kill Harry

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>>83785972
>wa la

>>83785950
>>83787951
>>83790362
>>83790557
>>83790814
>>83791262
>>83791661
>>83792058
>>83792856
jesus, no one can be this fucking dense right?

>>83786955
Oh god my sister brings up the "everyone is dead and Angelica is a prostitute" theory everytime Rugrats is on.

>>83801645
I assumed that Harry was legitimately put in limbo by the spell, but since the spell actually killed the horcrux inside him he wasn't actually dead and could therefore go back, but he could have chosen to have passed on and let it kill him had he wanted to.

>>83785661
Weakest intro ever but still chuckeld.
This is the benoposting of /lit/

>>83802104
The intro worked fine in the thread he got it from. He was just a laxy faggot who couldn't be fucked changing it for this one.

>>83792305
>the rules of an international, generation spanning sport are directly tied to the house points of one school.

>>83787906
Bazinga my asshole niggers

>>83790376

Haha do you think some male wizards transfigure themselves into a pair of panties lol


That would be sooo funny loool.

>>83787906
gij

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Find a flaw.

>>83787906
thanks doc

>>83785911
Only british auror don't. American one always carry a gun for their left hand

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>>83787906
Fucking faggot