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César vs Holly

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Can we please have a serious quality discussion about the Mexican-American dog whisperer César Millán's showdown with the labrador Holly during his television show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ihXq_WwiWM

PS: Janitors please don't report this thread and moderators please don't delete it; it is literally 100% television-related. Finding this thread annoying is not a good reason to delete it, there are plenty of annoying non television-related threads, purge those, thanks.
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Was this hit necessary?
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>>83747559
>Janitors please don't report this thread and moderators please don't delete it; it is literally 100% television-related. Finding this thread annoying is not a good reason to delete it, there are plenty of annoying non television-related threads, purge those, thanks.

He's right, if you're gonna delete this thread delete these ones too:

>>83747527

>>83747507

>>83747456

>>83747416

>>83747230

>>83747151

>>83746997
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>>83747623
Yes as she was the aggressor
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>>83747623
Of course. Cesar placed food in the bowl but did not give Holly permission to eat from it, she therefore violated the NAP and is liable for any damage to occurs to her resulting for Cesar defending his property.
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>>83747637
>he's right
>3 posters
It's pretty pathetic that you are so attached to your forced meme you feel the need to defend it in 3rd person. You've been spamming the board with it, which is against the rules retard.
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>>83747659
>eat comfy little meal
>manlet gets in your face
>you get scared and move abruptly
>he punches you in the throat and squats above your plate
I'd wish to speak with the manager.
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>>83747709
Well if you could get btfo so easily by a manlet then you don't deserve supper.
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>>83747709
Dog isn't paying for its meal.
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>>83747559
Dr. Holly, I'm C ES AR
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>>83747705
What about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vTadjQ6kk8 ?

Who was in the wrong? A gentleman shared his garlic bread with a doggo, the doggo's owner got aggressive towards the gentleman, hit him, then the gentleman fucked his shit up and the doggo started mauling his own owner, fucking his shit up even further.
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>>83747865
Dr. Millán, I'm D.O.G.

Was getting bitten part of your plan?
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>>83747559

My dog is a three year old Border Collie.

I raised it since it was 10 weeks old.

It has never shown aggression outside of telling off an over excited three month old German Shepherd to calm the fuck down.

Any aggressive dog is the fault of the retarded owner apart from Pit Bull's because they are bred by retards, to be retard dogs for retard owners. They should all be destroyed.
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>>83747708
>It's pretty pathetic that you are so attached to your forced meme you feel the need to defend it in 3rd person. You've been spamming the board with it, which is against the rules retard.

Hey retard, since you're such a 4chan expert I'm surprised you don't know you can turn on the inline extension (top right) and select "Thread Statistics" Doing so shows a counter bootm-right showing number of unique replies and IPs.
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Fucking mutt got what was coming to it
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>>83747559
Well he didnt punch the dog. He does a stiff claw hand and quickly pinches the neck. From what I remember this was his first visit. He could easily have gone with a shock collar to snap her out of that rage but he didnt. Shock collar would have definitely been better. This dog was one of the more aggressive dogs he's had to deal with though.
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>>83748032
>The payment was being a good girl and waiting before permission to eat.
Which she didn't do.
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>>83747819
The payment was being a good girl and waiting before getting permission to eat. Seriously, what the fuck was César's problem? Why did he start bothering her?
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>>83747943
>>83747943
Hey samefag retard, ban evading is also against the rules.
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>>83748056
Did you watch the footage? César said "Ok, *mouth sounds*, good girl." while pointing to the plate.
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>>83747559
I feel its kind of relative.

If a human A did this to human B while he was eating, human B told him to fuck off or he'd kick his ass, human A didn't fuck off, and human B went apeshit, I think most would side with B.

That being said, we are in human society, and dogs need us to survive in it as a child needs an adult. We can't directly communicate with dogs as we would a human. In order to coexist with them, we need to be able to trust them completely. That means they need to be more docile than we could reasonably ask a human to be.

As two individuals, Holly is in the right, in that she can't reasonably be expected just to take that shit and not defend herself.

As a dog living in a human world, she is not, as if she is not completely obedient and docile she poses a threat that we have to take seriously.

I can take food out of my dog's mouth and he will do nothing. I've never felt this was a reasonable thing for me to do, but it is what it is.


Now for the real question,


Was Ross or Rachel in the wrong
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Pathetic fucking template poster
You even posted the Pitt video you disgusting reddit samefag
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Holly just needs a fucking bullet. Mongrel dog.
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>>83748062
If their child walked up to Holly and she snapped on it, which she did get aggressive when Cesar got near her.
So Cesar shut that shit down.
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>>83747559
I can see the relaxation there
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>>83747935
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>>83747559

Well she seems to be doing ok these days so her owners were probably retarded and didn't know how to raise her properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlN6NsbWAQg
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>>83747623
He held his hand in a way to simulate a dog bite. He bit her, not hit her. That way the dog understands.
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Who did you vote for?
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>>83747708
OP here, I didn't make this post >>83747637 and every thread I've created about César and Holly have had "César vs Holly" as the subject; that's 3 threads in 72 hours which is hardly spamming.
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>>83748162
See >>83748311 and go back to r*ddit, dumb projecting r*dditor.
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>>83748311
>I make the same thread multiple times a day with the same image for 3 days straight but its not spamming hurr
Uh huh.
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>>83748255
Me? I'm more of a Holly kind of guy, y'know?
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>>83748341
>3x the same thread in 3 days
>multiple times a day
R*ddit education everybody!
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Why do redditors hate Holly so much? Is it because she's a Republican?
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>>83748399
>thread gets rightfully deleted
>make another one and plead with the mods like the redditor you are to stop deleting your autism general
Only a redditor would spam inane template shit day in, day out. I do not believe you at all when you say you've only posted it 3 times. I would believe you've been here for 3 days though.
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>>83748509
Look at that Asian guy staring at Holly like she's a hot meal.
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>>83748146
If some pervert tried to rape your doggo, would your doggo be in the wrong for defending himself, thereby not being docile?
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>>83748255
>this just in, republicans will literally vote for a dog if you label it a republican, more at 11.
>scientists testing to see if a ham sandwich labeled "republican" can successfully win the support of republicans after a 2 hour live television debate with an actual person. the results may surprise you
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>>83748531
>tries to sound like he hasn't discovered 4chan this summer
>is triggered by "inane template shit spammed day in day out"
Just leave already, whining is useless because you can't downvote shit here, dumb redditor.
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>>83748667
Is Cesar drowning Holly?
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>>83748582
If there is immediate bodily harm coming to him/herself or to his/her loved ones, then I'd completely side with the dog if it attacked the human. Shit, I'd hope a dog would do that, and feel most would.

Preventing it from eating without permission is a bit different. If my dog was literally starving and I tried to take food out of its mouth and he attacked me, I wouldn't blame him. If he wasn't starving, our society requires that the dog just fucking trust and submit that this is what is best.

>TL;DR Society's standard is that a dog should never show aggression unless someone's life/well being depends on them scaring someone/something/using brute force.
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>>83748787
He's giving her a bath, he has become her little cuck servant since she's the captain now.
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>>83748792
>Preventing it from eating without permission is a bit different.
But what if he's given permission then punched in the throat? See >>83748144
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>>83748146
Pretty much this.

Human standards for dogs aren't necessarily fair, but humans rule the world and this is the price of admission.

Individuals might prioritize individual animal lives over human lives, but our society as a whole won't tolerate anything it deems a threat. If a dog wants to live in our society, it has to play by the rules.

Its completely "might makes right," but that's how the world works, whether or not humans were even involved.
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>>83748667
>get called a redditor
>can only retort your status in a vain attempt to deflect it
Only a genuine redditor would literally beg the mods to not delete his thread in the OP. You can't fool me, you double digit IQ sycophant.

You're pretty fucking autistic for being so attached to this old ass forced reddit meme, it's embarrassing in all honesty.
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>>83748889
He didn't punch her though, just pinched her, which is what dogs do to show dominance.

In other words, she was under no bodily threat. He gave permission but then took it away.
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>>83747928
You're a big spic
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ITT: memes that got tired after a day
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@83748932
>beg the mods to not delete his thread
Well, as I expected, it actually worked. Not bad for a double digit IQ, huh?

Thanks for all the bumps btw, keep 'em coming, César.
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>>83748932
M8 why are u so mad? Get out of this thread and browse another if yr not enjoying it. Lmao...love the "projection" call when the obvs autismo here is you for spending yr efforts arguing against an anon on a mexican chihuahua trading board
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He wasn't alone.
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>>83749434
Uh, you don't get to bring friends.
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>>83748062
And what happens if a child walks up to Holly while she's eating and birds her hand off? Then what retard? A dog shouldn't be aggressive EVER
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But the real question is...who won the fight? I mean, César kept the high ground but he went to the hospital.
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>>83749897
I know that César is a manlet but he's still not a child. Labradors are always very gentle with children.
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>>83747889
BTFO
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>>83747889
The guy at the end who said to get out of "his" store.
Who the fuck did this guy think he is?
Walking into a situation that he had no business being apart of and telling them to get out "his" store.
Like seriously, do you own this store?
Did you purchase the land and build the establishment, get permits and liscenes to legally own it?
I doubt it.
He was in the wrong to falsely claiming ownership of a store that he just works at.
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>>83751288
Exactly, it also pisses me off when actors say "my movie", they're neither the director nor part of the fucking production team.
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I feel like the only way to settle this is to break into Cesar's house. And then at dinner time silently lower Holly out of the ceiling mission impossible style until she suddenly appears locked eye to eye with him inches from his face over his plate of bean tacos.
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>>83748255
i don't vote in rigged elections
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>>83747889
cucked by a dog
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Why did he violate the McNAP?
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>>83747935
Pit bulls are honestly fine. They are just stronger dogs than most, so training them is important because temperment issues can be more dangerous than most breeds
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>>83747559

YOU'VE GOT A WHITE DOG!
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>>83754225
>so training them is important

you throw this out there so casually as if people are rational and responsible.
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>>83754225

Yeah, no, pitbulls are retarded and bred to be aggressive killers. You know how they breed them? They beat them, make them angry and set them up to fight other dogs. If they show any fear or sense of pain and back down, they kill that dog. They only breed the pitbulls that never backdown and never show fear. What you're left with is the psychopathic nigger of dog breeds, only good for killing.

Anything that annoys a pitbull enough it will bite, and it will never let go until that thing is dead. Every single one of them need to be killed.
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/v/ here

have some oc
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>>83756340
holy kek
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>>83747559
>this desperate to keep your shitpost alive
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>>83752125
and then pic related happens
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>>83756435
It worked.
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>>83756340
Kek, is Cesarposting on /v/ as well?
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>>83747559
I was getting the mail a few hours ago and the neighbors' pitbull apparently escaped and sneaked up beside me. I wouldn't have known if it wasn't for that low growl dogs make when seeing new people. I literally thought I was going to channel my inner cesar and roundhouse the pitbull but thankfully the "relaxed but confident stance" and "direct eye contact but with regular blinking" saved me. Dog was literally 5 feet from me.
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>>83756546
A quick jab to the throat followed up with a swift kick to its chest would have taken it down.
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>>83756546
You should've done the César stance, you should know it by now.
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>>83748622
>Implying a dog wouldn't be a better President than a Democrat
I don't think there's a single argument you can form on how 4 years of dog rule, aka no rule, is worse than the Democratic party.
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>>83756872
>>83748622
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>>83756595
it was growling but it wasn't baring its teeth and I didn't see that twitch in the snout that dogs usually do when they're thinking of attacking. After a few seconds of looking at each other sideways he stopped growling and lied down a few steps away.
>>83756649
>come closer to a weary pitbull while exposing your throat
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who won?
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>>83754711
>pitbulls are retarded and bred to be aggressive killers.
Just sounds like beta talk point-dexter
Keep taking care of Tyrone j.r. when Cletus and Paco Rob your house without having an alpha dog
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You know the posters in here have never owned a dog if they're defending Holly
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>>83757841
My labrador (like Holly) is literally named Cesar. Not even kidding.
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FUCKING SHITTY /tv/ memes

i love them
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>>83748146
>Even asking if Ross was the one wrong
THEY WERE
ON A BREAK
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>>83748622
>that image
>Moti Shniberg
>berg
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>>83758590
same
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>>83757818
>has the spic/nig/hillbilly dog breed
>tries to talk about said groups in a negative light
You're a loser just like your loser ugly shitskin dog
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>>83748622
Stay mad while my town stays max cozy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJymaLQVjsk
Who was in the wrong here?
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How do pet owners justify this masturbatory relationship with a life form bred for the sole purpose of exchanging loyalty for affection?

Does it make you feel special? Does it make you feel like you're in charge?
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>>83747559
Dogs that are aggressive when eating are bad dogs. Domesticated animals are feed daily, and dont need to worry about not getting food. They should not be aggressive when eating.
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>>83760239
>this leash, this gives you power over me?
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>>83747559
>*Blocks your path*
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>>83760453
>*Bites your hand*
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>>83760788
I wasn't expecting that
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>>83760803
>*Bites your balls off*
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>>83748146
dogs need a leader my man. they think with pack mentality. a mentally stable dog would never be aggressive for no reason like this. either it's owners or previous owners fucked it's head up bad.
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>>83747559
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>>83748255
I could't help but to agree with Holly's tax policy.
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>>83757712
>That neck on holy
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so did he fix the dog?
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>>83747559
did they add in sound effects for this?
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>>83748540
HOT DINNER?
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DUDE DOGS LMAO
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>using bots for an unfunny forced meme
Sad!
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>>83762111
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>>83747623
Do people really attack their animals to train them?
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>>83762335

dude I fuck my goldfish up all the time
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Fuck dogs
Pussies are way better anyway
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>all these reddit dog lovers in this thread
That dog deserved it She had to be put in her place and learn to be submissive to her master
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>>83762335
Yeah kick my gerbils ass at least once everyday to show it who's boss.
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>>83760239
I don't understand. Would you rather they did with their time? Then ask yourself why you aren't doing that.
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Perro caca
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>>83761031
I hope these never stop
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>>83761031
>Holy
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>>83762837
jajaja
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>>83762837
What did he mean by this?
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>>83747889
>garlic bread
>doggo
>the fucking pic
4chan truly is dead and gone
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>>83747559
What is that stance?
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>>83758673
actually rachel was, and this was coming from a guy who was behind ross for a while. in the episode where he fucks that one other chick, both parties were actually willing to rebuild their relationship before ross blew it off *himself* after overhearing mark on the phone. the break was essentially over until he made a new one only he agreed to
in short, ross is an insecure beta who manipulates ordeals to mark him superior.
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>>83757818
>this rationalization
Just admit you're a fucking manlet loser who needs a spic dog to appear intimidating in public.
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>>83747559
Heres a fucking idea.... Don't touch a dogs bowl when its eating then?

I wouldnt want some poo skins fucking grubby hands coming near me when im happily eating either..

Also what does this spic expect standing over a dog like that? He's threatening it.

Also, if dogs act like this then its the fucking owners fault. Treat a dog like a child and they grow up to be nice domesticated animals.

This chinese bastard probably doesnt walk it or anything.
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>>83763773
When a dog gets like this and it thinks every human is just going to be a doormat to them it needs to be shown who's the boss of this gym. Threatening it until it stops acting like a bitch is the right thing to do. Only when it shows you respect do you show it back. Cesar did nothing wrong.
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>>83747559
shouldnt "animal trainers" have training not to react like that when bitten? it was such a sloppy generic kick, shouldnt they have proper techniques.
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>>83747559
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>>83747559
that """"couple""" look like the type of shitty owners who barely walk their dog because they have a garden and never give it attention, no wonder its angry.
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>>83763757
Pitbull owner here. Lmaoing at you.
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>you will never get an aggressive, mistreated dog and have it gradually warm up to you until it learns love and obedience and the two of you become a happy team
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