Neill Blomkamp: "Chappie was unbelievably painful for me"

never watched it yet
was it really shit?

>>83700610
He'll get over it, he's a big guy

>>83700610
It's a perfectly fine fun movie. Audiences are usually retarded.

>There are millions of things that were missed. But that could have been done by me in the same way - it was directed in such a way that some ideas didn't come across. For whatever reason, there were many elements that critics in general didn't pick up on them. One of them is that it's an artificial intelligence film, and it isn't. It's not about AI. Ex Machina's about AI. Chappie's not about artificial intelligence - it's meant to be asking questions about what it means to be sentient.

>The main reason for Chappie existing in my mind is because it has the most farcical, weird, comic, non-serious pop-culture tone, that is almost mocking or making fun of the fact that it's talking about the deepest things you can talk about. The fact that those two things exist in the same film is what the film is about. Because that's what the experience of life is about. It's an unknowable question, and no one's going to answer it for you.

>So it's almost a grand joke, in a sense. That was the main thing. People confuse that by saying the film was tonally all over the map. And it's because they couldn't comprehend that the tone was existing as one, united thing; it was saying, "Here's the most important thing you can talk about, wrapped up in a farcical giant joke that looks like we're all having a big laugh." And that was the point. Because that's how I view life in general.

>We could go on for hours about Chappie and where it sits. But it definitely hurt several parts of my career, I think. Those are all secondary to just the repositioning myself as an artist and just thinking about that. I mean, Elysium, I didn't feel that way. I feel like Elysium wasn't actually that good. That's the difference. I feel like I got it right with Chappie, and then when the audience turns on you, that puts you in a different place.

>man wrestles with his taste vs everyone else's
Why is this news

>>83700641
It's fine, really

>>83700641
It's worth seeing for a few scenes, but there is a lot of total nonsense.

>Parts reminded of my favorite cyberpunk rpgs.
>Rhino was a super sick villian
>production design top shelf
>Depends how you feel about Das Antwoord
>They aren't really good actors, though

Just make District 10 already. Thats the one we've been waiting for, and the original most people loved.

Yeah it's no District 9 and I figure I might watch it once more in my lifetime after the one time I saw it in theaters but it wasn't the complete shit show that Elysium was. Having multiple distinct and "wacky" characters works to it's advantage, everyone is pretty memorable from the music duo to chappie to angry hugh jackman and Lion guy.

>>83700641

Its complete garbage.

Main characters are some of the most annoying characters in a movie, the tone is all over the place, and it turns strangely serious by the end.

Also has PS4s being better than a supercomputer in it.

However, Hugh Jackman and the special effects are great, and the general look of everything is nice but all of Blomkamps films have that.

>>83700610
>Why didnt you like chippie?
Because it had potential, because it raised interesting questions but threw it all away in the end focusing more on the action aspect.

1.short circuit 1
2.short circuit 2
3.chappie

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>>83700675
>It's not about AI. Ex Machina's about AI. Chappie's not about artificial intelligence - it's meant to be asking questions about what it means to be sentient.

The entire point of the AI discussion is about sentience you utter fucking moron.

> main reason for Chappie existing in my mind is because it has the most farcical, weird, comic, non-serious pop-culture tone, that is almost mocking or making fun of the fact that it's talking about the deepest things

Yes, you got a Looney Tunes vibe and cast non-actors known for their farcical music. But dumb audiences didn't appreciate your Tarkovsky level auteur filmmaking and "deep themes". It's not that it was a bad choice that failed horribly because it's fucking stupid. Oh no. They just didn't get it.

> People confuse that by saying the film was tonally all over the map.

Said three seconds later:

> Here's the most important thing you can talk about, wrapped up in a farcical giant joke that looks like we're all having a big laugh.

So it's tonally all over the map then? Good analysis.

>I mean, Elysium, I didn't feel that way. I feel like Elysium wasn't actually that good.

So he's not completely retarded.

>>83700760
>e
I'd rather not let a sequel sully my memory of D9, it's clear to me he's a hack and D9 was a flook, can't see D10 turning out to be anything worthwhile.

>>83700610
>"Chappie was unbelievably painful for me"


yeah it was shit for me too watch as well

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What was so bad about this?

Outside of its babby tier rich v poor plot, it had some good action, effects and based Copley in it

D9 >>> Halo Ads >>>>> Elysium >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crappie

>>83700610
He's a big guy.

>>83700610
>But the thing with Chappie was, it felt like it was extremely close to the film I had in my head.

guess I can always say this if I ever become a talentless director.

>>83700610
No wonder the kaffirs want to kill the whites in South Africa.

>Muh ideas

This fuck's only idea is "apartheid bad okay"

>>83700847
>babby tier rich v poor plot

Even as an anarchist I think the main characters motivations were retarded. What happens the week after all the poorfugees invade the space station? Total Collapse.

Would this super rich elite society really subject the worker plebs to all this violence and depravity if they could just put a med bay on every corner and have them all work every day with no illnesses at 100% capacity for their fucking food stamps?
No.

>>83700847
>Outside of its babby tier rich v poor plot
The problem is, that was most of the movie. The action scenes were extremely few in number. Great special effects though.

>>83700641
It's one of those "it's okay for what it is.".
Then again, you can clearly see it tries to be more than that, so in that sense, if not shit, it's at least heavily flawed.

>>83700610
This is why I believe the future of film and greenlighting what gets made lies in crowd funding. Why are we still watching what these people are making when nobody asked them to make these films? Wes Anderson movies for example. Who gives a shit about those pieces of shit except him?

>>83700833
>a fookin' flook!

>>83700610
He shouldn't have put those Die Antwood faggots in it.
It may be different, but there's a reason why most of the time people cast real actors.
Also, South Africa is gay.

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die antwoord was a mistake

>>83701114
Read that in sharlto's voice, keks had.

>>83701144
Apparently nightmares to work with

>>83700641
It has a bigger libtard message so it is shit

>>83701008
I'm pretty sure he just failed to express himself, since what he did was not original at all, he was just ripping off Gunnm.

>>83701160
Yew littu facka. Om gonna take yo head off

>underrated actor

>>83701140
>>83701144
>>83701172

Seriously them fuckers were as annoying as Jar Jar

Especially the guy, dumb wigger cunt.

>>83700641
I liked chappie

>>83700610
The rapping robot shit killed it for me. Otherwise it would've been decent.

>>83701198
Legit..............

>>83700610
lol must have been, totally forgot that movie existed

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>>83701172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTsEiEYfkRs

>>83700610
I went to the theater to see it
It was shit, but I appreciated what he tried to do

>>83701087
>Why are we still watching what these people are making when nobody asked them to make these films
Because when they make something that people ask for you end up with shit like the new Star Wars and the disney/marvel movies.

>crowd funding
You get meaningless movies like The void.

Just because a director failed it doesn't mean that all directors fail, good movies are still being made but your reasoning is what is destroying creativity.

>Why didnt you like chippie?

Because the movie presented in the trailer painted the movie as an existential exploration of the idea of artificial life, with the antagonists being rational people afraid of the threat an A.I. could pose by its very existence, when the actual movie was basically about a retarded robot baby being abused by shitty musicians who die like they should before being revived in a robot body.

Fucking hell.

>>83701314
Raised poor : insecure
Meth : paranoid schizophrenia
Fame : big ego

a perfect shitstorm of crazy

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I liked the original better

>>83701189
yeah well at least gunm makes sense. sort of.

His all just wasn't good enough.

Chappie was shit, with shitty writing and shitty exploration of sci-fi and the artificial life concept.

>"robots are putting us on jail! oh, I know, lets kidnap someone to make a remote control for us! genius, why wouldn't this work?"
It's so bad I am not even going to bother to list all the bad there is.

If you liked chappie you should be permabanned

no recourse just lifetime ban

>>83701371
I wasn't for it, but I thought crowdfunding is smart from a financial perspective. I foresee studios picking a director and giving the public a choice of 3 films that they'd like to see that particular auteur make,

ie: Dennis Villanueve working under a contract for WB, who gives the people a choice of 3 movies for the director to make.
1) Harley Quinn and the Joker
2) Batman
3) Green Lantern

The movie with the most votes gets crowdfunded with prizes and giveaways as well as studio tours given to the more dedicated pledgers.

This interactive experience through the creative process of filming would generate interest in the rapidly failing industry and keep it afloat.

>>83701472
Number five...alive!

Honestly, District 9, a lot of the success it had was because it was a gimmicky, 'unique' movie. The whole South African thing was funny and weird but I wasn't interested in watching ANOTHER movie like that.

I get it. South Africans talk funny. Now move on.

Also, this looked like a rip-off or Real Steel to me.

>>83701673
What if I don't want to watch a cape movie, what if I want to watch something new that has never been made before?

Ridley cucked him out of the Alien franchise too lol

Blomkamp wants to be Ridley Scott so bad it's pathetic.

>>83700610
None of the characters are likable, the premise was handled all wrong and it felt like a vehicle to get a pair of South African white trash rappers into the spotlight for no reason.

>>83701765

I wonder if the success of D9 was Peter Jackson as producer

>>83700610

what the fuck is he talking about? everyone I know who saw it liked it and the basic opinion on this board was really positive back when it came out

who the fuck is he talking about if he's not taking the box office into account?

the movie had its flaws but it was a better robot movie than 90% of the other robot movies 2000+

>>83702108

Go to bed Neill

>>83702108

it was almost unanimously disliked m8

>>83701087
Jesus christ. In your world we'll only get sequels, Ouya: The Movie, and cape shit.
Crowd funding is just another publisher. But at least there is a slight chance that the real publisher has some actual knowledge regarding film and making film.

>>83702108
>the basic opinion on this board was really positive back when it came out
no, dude.
The majority here couldn't see past Die Antwoord.

All I've wanted is district 10

Looking forward to his new shorts but I have stopped hoping for him to make a decent new movie he needs help with his scripts

>>83701144
gibbe pussi pls, i love very much sex you like good panties in picto

>>83702108
everyone hated it dude

do you have autism?

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>>83700675
>Chappie's not about artificial intelligence - it's meant to be asking questions about what it means to be sentient.

Oh great, literally the most retold pulp science fiction story ever. An angle that's been examined possibly thousands of times from every avenue.

The guy takes ideas from all sorts of sci fi, mixes them together, and adds nothing new (that is also good), all while expecting people to not notice.

I skipped Elysium, but Chappie was pretty good. I didn't care for the dude in it, but Yolandi came across naive which worked in her favor. The Mexican guy was cool too.

The biggest thing that bothered me was how hyper focused it was on Die Antwoord. It had all their art, half the soundtrack was their music, and they didn't even play characters- just fictionalized version of thesmelves. If anything dragged the movie down it was turning it into a South African music video.

>>83702682

And the Sony Ad

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>>83702682

Basically this.

Enjoyment of the film depends solely on how much you can tolerate Die Antwoord. I was a fan of them, their music, and their on-stage personas long before Chappie was a thing, so I fully expected them to dominate the film and wasn't shocked when it ended up being Die Antwoord: The Movie.

That being said, I can 100% understand why someone who doesn't know/like them and their shtick would walk out hating them. Especially if they wern't expecting it.

>>83700610
I really liked it to be honest. His best film by far. Don't get it why everyone hates it.

>>83702826

so as fan die antwoord you recommend?
i seriously had no idea they were in this (however in fatty boom boom yolandi says "neil bloomkamp gonna make me a movie star" which had puzzled me"

I would enjoy?
because fucky preachy elysium

>>83700793
>tone is all over the place
It's a film about a cute robot in a dark world. The world tries to make him dark too, but he just becomes tough instead. Is that too complicated a narrative for normies? It's a typical story about growing up, realising everything is shit and learning how to deal with it.

>>83702682
>>83702826
That's mostly why I skipped out on watching this movie. I didn't need to see a Robocop/Short Circuit remix movie guest starring Die Antwoord. District 9 didn't really wow me with its story, so I can't say I've ever had any anticipation for any of his movies, so I didn't even bother going to see Elysium either.

>>83702945
I could just watch Short Circuit 2 and watch Johnny Five join Los Locos instead. It has 100% less Die Antwoord, so already it's a better film.

>>83702942

If you like Die Antwoord, you'll like it. It's basically an hour and a half long Die Antwoord music video with Neil Blomkamp's signature production design and action sequences.

It's awesome.

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>>83700610
He deserves it for casting these two. They make me sick.

>>83700610
Dont good and original movies with bad boxoffice totals end up becoming cult classics? Sounds like hes counting up his depression eggs before opening the henhouse

>>83700675
>doesnt know the difference between sapience and sentience

Yeah im shre that what its about and not just bullshit you made up as damage control, meinkampf

>>83702265
Maybe we need to stop looking at movies like sequels now and start thinking of them as episodes like TV. The ongoing saga of characters. Let's face it, things have changed.

>>83703210
>good and original
>implying

>>83701799
They were just examples but, yes, in another scenario they would give a plot synopses or genre.

>>83700610
chappie was painful for everyone because it was shit

>>83702864
>I really liked it to be honest. His best film by far.
ditto ditto ditto
>Don't get it why everyone hates it.
mostly they're just triggered by die antwoord

>>83700610
>Why didnt you like chippie?

Because it's shit. Every movie after District 9 has been progressively worse. Fans only cared about a followup to D9, but he said fuck you guys I'm a famous director now and made 2 shitty movies instead. Now nobody even cares about a D9 followup like they used to, and I'm fucking glad he's not getting a chance to further butcher the Alien franchise.

>People actually like Die Antwoord

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Why don't studios just shut down this shit site anyways? They got billions to market with but can't send a dozen lawyers to RT and tell them to close shop?

>>83700610
Chappie is criminally underrated. Audiences just weren't ready for a movie about South African rappers and their impressionable robot. Copley was great though and I really didn't mind Die Antwoord, but yeah there was really no way mainstream audiences were going to embrace this.

>>83700610
Liked it, felt bad for chappie. Ending was pretty unique.

>>83703385

Their music, videos, and concerts are fun.

Die Antwoord are shit, like 80% of their songs are awful

>>83703406
How does that nigger have blue eyes?

>>83703511
Those look blue to you?

>>83703425
Spotted the saffa

>>83700610

>Take millions of dollars of investor's money
>Deliberately make a film that appeals to you and only you
>Fuck anybody who doesn't get it, I made this movie for me and me alone
>Using other people's money

Guy sounds like a real piece of shit.

>>83703610
Yeah, we should run every movie through focus groups and really dumb them down so all the mouthbreathers can have a good clap when it's over.

Neck yourself, pleb.

>>83700757
Die

>>83700610
huh? but it was alright though

>>83700610
the movie was good. fuck the redditors that hated it

>>83700610
You know this all sounds like a big fat lie.
Hardly any films in history are perfect and if he was a true artist he would see pretty much see only the flaws in his work.
You think your film is good enough? Fuck you it's never good enough.

"Chappie was good'
t. South African man

What the fuck where did all the Chappie shills come from?

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>>83700610
>we're meant to root for piece of shit criminal leaches on society that survive by terrorizing and robbing innocent people and only want to use the protagonist to hurt others
>we're meant to hate le ebil corporation that simply wants to enforce the law a safely as possible without putting human cops in danger and apprehend violent criminals

only such cuckoldry could come from a white south african who have been especially selected for inverse moral values by virtue of not leaving that rape infested hellhole

>>83700610

He made a niche movie that normalfags will never understand.

>>83704247
This is one of the few situations where the normalfags were right

>>83704515

Maybe YOU are the normalfag, anon.

>>83700610
I can't get over how terrible South African accents sound. it's painful to hear.
maybe it should have taken place elsewhere

>>83700641
nah, but its just generic and sloppily done
its the friendly robot gain consciousness story that was done to death in by the 90ties and Blomkamp fails to bring anything new to the table and just juggles generic shitty tropes until the movie ends
it also suffers from some very incoherent and inconsistent characterization thats a mix of bad editing and bad dialogue

not really something you should go out of your way to watch

>>83704186
How do people still not get this?

Die Antwoord is performance art, it's a satire of depravity. There's no such thing as "zef culture", they made it up. Both Yolandi and Ninja are actually completely, depressingly normal people privately. Look up "Max Normal" if you don't believe me.

They come up with a new act every few years. Die Antwoord is their most successful to date by far. Word is they're both getting bored of it and going to retire it soon.

>>83700833
I like that the prawns came from another galaxy, that must mean they exhausted the resources of trillions upon trillions of worlds if they felt the need to come all the way over here.

>>83705867
No shit bruv

What's funny is the guy has gone bonkers and decided he actually prefers life as Ninja so now he just lives like that all the time.

>>83706002

Their latest tour is the end of Die Antwoord, so I doubt it.

>>83700610
That poor robot if only the pajeet that made him gave an adult level of reasoning he would have genocided the niggers in South Africa by hijacking all of his brothers in the factories.

>Giving a fucking nigger criminal immortality just because its your surrogate mommy in a sense
>Expecting me to forgive an impulsive savage white male who tried to kill the pajeet that made Chappie many times basically threatened to kill his father in a sense.

Chappie is a redpill on South Africa, its commentary on how an unfeeling police force is needed to keep the african savages in check.

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i liked chappie, cried, and die antwood is a meta modernist group on the edge of reality. It was the only wrong audiance

I remember a little girl crying when they were beating chappie up and treating him like shit up but then it just keeps going and she kinda got desensitized and stopped

>>83706187
Are there even whites left in SA that aren't wholly cynical on interracial societies?

I SAW CHAPPIE IN IMAX AND IT HAD ENOUGH GOOD SCENES TO MAKE IT ENJOYABLE

SOME OF THE JOHNNY 5 SHIT WORKED SOME DIDNT

OVERALL IT WAS TOO SOUTH EFFRICAN NICHE TO SELL WELL GLOBALLY, BASICALLY ONE BIG DIE ANTWOORD MUSIC VIDEO

AREN'T A BIG DIE ANTWOORD FAN LIKE MOST PEOPLE? WELL ITS EASILY HALF THE MOVIE, TOO MANY CHIPS ON DIE ANTWOORD BLOMKAMP

>>83706869
I remember holding back tears on that scene in the cinema too. It's pretty good

>>83701576
This was one of the better parts to come out of the movies - the real problem was immediately after. How everyone just switched gears after kidnapping the robot maker from "give us the means to shut down the police droids so we can make this last big score" to "give us your sentient untested droid that can't do shit so it may or may not help with our last big score"

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>>83700610
because it was a big fucking music video for that stupid band of white niggers
a shame honestly
looking forward to whatever this man is directing tho

Hugh Jackman was good

>>83707267
How is that bad? The whole movie is centered around this theme of innocent things turning real dark real fast.

he literally copied appleseed

story & robot design. i'm glad it tanked

>>83703210
In the internet age cult classics are born overnight. It's been like 3 years and nobody even remembers Chappie, it's dead.

>>83709023
Were remembering it right now. and it show up on 4chan that means its cool

>>83707345
pretty much this

>>83700610

>I don't know what else to say, but the audience didn't get what I was going for

Pretentious cunt

>>83700610
I liked Chappie. Or at least two thirds of it. Hell, the climax stuff isn't too bad.
It only loses its shot when the human brain is uploaded to a robot

>>83702682
I was about to say the same thing, Die Antwoord is the main problem with this movie. All their scenes would have been more endearing or tolerable if you've had real actors in those roles.

>>83700847
Why would you even bother hiring labourers like Damons character to build the robocops? Why not have the robots build themselves.

I mean it makes for a fun visual when we see Damon get smacked around by the robocops only to show up work and have to make them but why wouldn't the factory owner program the first bots that come off the line to work it instead?

>>83700610

He only says that because it bombed.

If it had been critically acclaimed hed be proud of his work.

This is the kind of shit that makes me dislike directors.

OWN IT.

Same thing happened with Refn and "OGF".

>>83709709
But Refn is a loser who thinks his work is on par with Kubrick and that he's a cinematic genius.

>>83707239
based IMAX poster

>>83702682
This.

Also Hugh's character was wonky.

Chappie him/itself was endearing and made for a good watch.

The antwoord factor made it intolerable.

>>83700610
I respect him for saying this. He's more of an artist than Ridley Scott will ever be.

>>83700641
No, just too smart for the typical sci-fi audience. Humor and intelligent silliness is far harder for them to understand than solemnity. Scott's garbage will always get more fan praise than a film like Chappie, but films like Chappie are what make the genre defensible in the long run. In fifty years, it'll be in the lists.

>>83709709
If you read the whole thing, you'd see that he is saying he's proud of it.

I liked Chappie. It was good solid entertainment and the use of De Antewood was meta.

that said, there were a lot of logical and story flaws.

having some japanese cyberpunk manga/anime writers going over the scripts a few times would have cleaned it up a lot.

At a certain hour of today

People certainly came on praising Chappie and Blomkamp all of a sudden


Hmmm.....I wonder

>>83700610
>Bitch makes lamer version of Short Circuit with none of the charm
>Complains no one liked it

I can forgive the die antwood shit, but the whole bit about the company turning down AI and hugh jackman with his gay ass haircut acting like a prick and going after them with a joystick controlled giant robot was unforgivable.

>>83700610
Blomkamp is an inarguably capable guy (and I personally find Saffers to be inescapably fascinating) but "Chappie" was not the "Number Five Is Alive" reboot it was sold as: "Chappie" was actually "Die Antwoord starring in Die Antwoord featuring an appearance by Die Antwoord," so the entire thing lives or dies depending on how much international audiences dig one music act.

>>83700610
Maybe you should have made District 10 then you stupid faggot?

>>83712626

To be fair he could have copped out and made it straight away

>>83700610

I really liked Chappie. It was a light hearted adult fairy tale. It looked amazing, and other than Ninja the acting was good. Overall just pure fun.

>>83700610
Reminder his wife was an integral part oc writing and editing of the shit show that has been chappie and elysium

>>83700610
the south african wiggers ruined it

>>83700777
Wait hugh jackman was in this? I completely forgot. Did he do a sath afrikaan accent or his native strayan?

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>>83703406
>majority minority

>>83704186
>by virtue of not leaving that rape infested hellhole
?
Why would they leave their homeland that they built?

How long until whites are told to leave the minority white USA or Canada? Or South America?

>>83701087
>Why are we still watching what these people are making when nobody asked them to make these films?
You are a fucking moron.

>>83700641

I watched it last night and thought it was perfectly fine. Not as good as District 9 (which seems to have been a lightning-in-a-bottle kind of movie) but not as bad as Elysium. It had some actual levity to it which didn't make it seem as brown and miserable as the first 2 movie which I hope Blomkamp keeps for his future projects. His work needs a little balance to all the urban grime.

>>83713578

Levity?

You mean annoying cunts

The critics just weren't ready for a raunchy little robot flick. This one was for the fans who PISS themselves.

sooo basically his next movie is going to be more pleb so he doesnt live in a gutter. got it.

>>83700825
srsly got these vibes from it. its like a new short circuit for today. if i was like 10 year old id love Chappie.

>>83703511
>How does that nigger have blue eyes?
How the hell do you think?

>>83714164
Goddamn that's a solid meme, I hope it goes on

>>83700610
I liked Chappie, it's not as good as District 9, but is a pretty good movie itself.