ITT: Flicks that reaffirmed your faith in Jesus You only grow

>>83699666
This thread again?

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>>83699666
those digits...

>>83699666
>>83699666
>digits
protestant trash confired for literally satan

>>83699778
>implying a 2000 year old history of fallible humans appointing fallible humans and coming up with new rules that didn't appear in the bible is better

>>83699666
s-satan, why are you promoting this flick?

Honestly Trump reaffirmed my belief in the Lord. I thought we lived in a godless world during the Obama years

>>83699818
I guess it's easier to trick stupid people, aka christians. But if satan excist, god does to I suppose. Hmm...

>>83699666
Satan's full house confirms you're a blasphemous heretic that should be burned at the stake. Stop trying to steer us away from the Lord, faggot

>>83699666
>666
Well played, OP, well played.
To answer your question though, I unironically loved the Mel Gibson war movie. It was like watching Christian porn.

>>83699666
I watched the first one for Kevin Sorbo and the 90s Superman

>>83699854
>excist
>god does to
Go back to whatever shit hole country you came from.

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>if you died tomorrow, do you know you wouldn't be going to hell?

Problem with this argument is it assumes that christianity is the true religion. Plenty of other religions have a hell, and those different religions have different salvation conditions. You can't meet the salvation conditions for every religion because they often contradict due to requiring exclusivity of belief

So why do you believe in the christian god? "I grew up with it because my parents took me to church" isn't a valid answer

>>83699847
Well Trump won thanks to a god but not due to the one you are thinking

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>>83699666
>itt: christfag problems

protip: you gun die JUST LIKE ERRBODY ELSE. youre not special.

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>666

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>>83699874
>his "faith" is a weapon of hate he uses against others

JESUS IS SOOO PROUD OF YOUR HATE.

>>83699666
>666
U-Um, I l-liked I guess...

At what point does a fetus become human?

When should it no longer be able to be aborted?

>>83699903
It doesn't matter, Christians always respond with some insult because you don't believe in their book

>>83699973
When he leaves the house and finds a job

>>83700002
I guess that leaves everyone ITT vulnerable

>I have never set foot on a uni campus and haven't even read about them: The Movie

The current state of academia is much worse than the portrayal in the movie, though in other ways.
Not that the retards who made this would know anything about the good or the bad since it was apparently cobbled together from anecdotes in chain emails and extrapolations of unimaginative, unintelligent minds.

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>>83699666

>>83699903
I don't think any real christfags would say "I grew up with it because my parents took me to church"

If you're still a Christfag on 4chan, it means you damn well have your own reasons for belief, besides those of your parents.

Most non-true Christfags bail out in College.

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>>83699666
>Pure Flix

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>>83700073
>he thinks humans arnt easily swayed herd animals

kek. mooooooo!

>>83700073
>If you're still a Christfag on 4chan, it means you damn well have your own reasons for belief, besides those of your parents.
And I would like to hear the arguments of these people because I'm one of the ones who dropped out in college

>>83700116
easily swayed works both ways, friend :^)

Can you guys watch God is not Dead 1 and 2 without being triggered? Because at least the first one had a lot of so bad it's funny moments. And it was pretty based and clearly didn't give a fuck about being offensive to atheists, muslims and asians.

>>83699973
>implying what others believe should have any impact upon our personal health choices

spotted the kuk!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK5-5qf9IQs

Was it kino?

>>83700165
institutionalized circumcision proves that what other people believe does has an impact on your personal health choices, though

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>>83700151
logic and reason over here friendo

but please tell us about believing in unprovable things.. go on skyman believer..

>>83700165
Anon, I am making the personal health decision to rape your gf (>implying) with one of my body parts.

You cannot tell me what to do with my penis, because it is part of my body.

#MyBodyMyChoice

>>83700150
I don't disagree with anything Jesus said when it comes to guides on how to live life.
I personally don't follow the old testament or anything that was said after Jesus died as if it were God's word.
>b-b-but that's cherry picking
Okay, maybe, but I honestly don't get why I should believe anything where Jesus is not involved. If you take only what Jesus said (allegedly) I think he gave some good teachings and instructions to guide our life. The rest is just humans quoting themselves, not Jesus.
As to being 100% sure God is real and that Jesus is God and the son of God, I'm not 100% sure, I always have doubts. I just try to be a good person and coincidentally that matches with what Jesus asked us to do (assuming he existed).

>>83700200
>Socucktes
at least post a real philosopher, poser

>>83700165
The FDA exists, therefore you're wrong.

>>83700182
>monocultures and their legacies prove jesus is real
kek

>>83700200
>but please tell us about believing in unprovable things
You have no proof that anything exists besides your own consciousness
Prove me wrong

>>83699666
>666
I'm confused

>>83700202
>im in high school

yes you are

>>83700242
That's not even remotely what that anon meant, idiot.

>>83700200
Reminder that Socrates wasn't real and was made up by Plato

>>83700287
Then how did they make that sculpture?

>>83699666
I'm enlightened by my own intelligence and you can't sell me any illusion, I'm too smart for that

>>83700150
The biggest protip is realizing that science and christianity can go together. only the fedora-tippers will tell you they conflict.

>>83699903
This is the real conundrum. And if you hedge your bets and practice a bit from every major religion it looks like you're not committed to any and will burn anyways.

>>83700287
t. highschool dropout who learns about philosophy from /lit/ memes

we literally have works made by socrates' contemporaries who talked about him before plato even came along

>>83700221
If you live your life by the words of Jesus alone, you'll be just fine.

>>83700429
yeah, and we also have the gospels from people that knew Jesus so I guess Jesus is real too

>>83700152
I can guarantee you that no atheist found the first movie offensive. It's not even rooted in our reality.

>>83700478
You mean people who said they new other people who knew OF the people who wrote about Jesus?

>>83700478
>2017
>doubting the existence of Jesus
there's way too much historical proof to deny it.

>>83700544
>way too much
Watch as when historians become less and less scared about getting bombed by fundies or losing jobs, the'll start to call most evidence circumstantial.

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It seems to be established in culture that swearing is not a christian thing to do. There's no verse in the bible that says don't swear (as in cuss, not the oath kind). Prophets in the bible even said offensive things
http://www.evidenceunseen.com/bible-difficulties-2/nt-difficulties/romans-2/1-cor-413-did-paul-swear/
Even this article that seems to support what I'm suggesting concludes with "christians shouldn't swear" while offering no justification as to how that conclusion can be drawn. Swear words are purely a social construct, and offense is dictated by culture (at some point in your life you are told that those words are offensive, there's nothing inherently offensive about them without that framing being provided to you). Words that may be offensive to some people aren't offensive to others. There's no objective rules.

In christian circles I know, many of them are comfortable with saying "crap" but would never say anything more severe than that (ie no shit, fuck, cunt etc). But Crap is still considered a swear word, albeit low tier. Why are low tier swear words okay when high tier ones aren't? Why is the line drawn there?

There's no biblical-based logic involved with this, but despite this it's still a well established part of christian culture.
Why?

>>83700544
Can you please show me some? Because I've looked for it and I found very little. It was also not very convincing. Why did every historic paper of the time he was alive choose to not write about Jesus? It seems like the historical records only prove "Christians" existed around the time Jesus died but not that Jesus himself existed.

>>83700574
Oh please.

Two of the scholars who have written the MOST defending Jesus's existence are Maurice Casey (fNottingham University) and Bart Ehrman (University of North Carolina). Both huge athiests. Why would they have reason to hold back? Much less, go out of their way to lie?

>>83699666
BvS

>>83700639
>Why did every historic paper of the time he was alive choose to not write about Jesus?
Probably because he may not have been one singular dude. Or you know, real.

>>83700478
Yes, I'm sure that the Greek playwright who wrote a play where he made fun of various famous Athenians included Socrates in it because he knew Plato will invent that characters years later so he wanted to help him trick the world.

>Jesus wasn't real
>neither was Peter
>yet somehow he went to Rome and founded the church
>this isn't real either apparently
>the Vatican doesn't actually exists

>>83699903
>Problem with this argument is it assumes that christianity is the true religion.
Where is the problem?

>>83700733
How can you assume christianity is the true religion?

>>83700639
If "historic papers at the time he was alive" is your standard of proof, you'll have a hard time proving many famous historic figures exist.

>>83700716
This is the part where I always reach a dead end. Some atheists claim Jesus or Peter or all of these dudes never existed. But if they did not then how and why did the church come to exist? Was it a huge conspiracy? But for what purpose?
>>83700767
It's better than crashing planes into buildings and throwing stones at women who cheat and hanging gays.

>>83700660
>people write about Batman and Superman
>therefore they must ne real

>>83700802
Then where is my proof? Show me the proof, the whole point of my post is that I have no proof anyway.
Discussing religion is so hard, I swear to God. Everyone avoids and dodges the questions.

>>83699973

The unborn are distinct human beings from the moment of conception. I don't know why some pro-choice people pretend this isn't the case but it's not even up for debate. It's a question of whether or not you accept biological facts.

"Althought life is a continuous process, fertilization is a critical landmark because under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed."
-Human Embryology & Teratology, 3rd edition pg. 8

"Zygote. This cell, formed by the union of an ovum and a sperm (Gr. zyg tos, yoked together), represents the beginning of a human being. The common expression 'fertilized ovum' refers to the zygote."
-Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects

"The development of a human begins with fertilization, a process by which the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
-Langman's Medical Embryology

I'm pro-life because human beings should possess equal rights and be treated equally under the law. This is directly opposed to the pro-choice view that we should be able to treat some humans as non humans based convenience. As Stephanie Gray says: "the pro-choice view of personhood is human plus birth, or human plus consciousness, or human plus viability. But how is this different from those who say personhood is human plus white skin, or human plus male gender, or human plus an IQ higher than 70? Why not just say being human is enough? "

>>83700803
>It's better than crashing planes into buildings and throwing stones at women who cheat and hanging gays.
The other one can't be true because you don't like what its followers do?
That's not a logical argument. The reality of that god being correct/false has no relevance to what actions its followers do.

>>83700823
But there have been cases allegedly in which people have recovered from terminal illnesses by praying to Christian figures. No such cases for praying to Superman or Batman.

>>83700823
You said Plato invented the character. The character predates Plato.

This is like saying Snyder invented Batman and Superman.

>>83700767
It's the religion that best explains the way the world is, specifically the nature of good and evil.

Why humans:
1. Do horrible things
2. Know these things are horrible
3. Have any reference for what "horrible" even is

>>83700881
>genesis
>real

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>>83699818
If there is no God then Satan can't exist either.

>>83700716
It came out of nothing! Just like the universe!

>>83700855
Pro-choicers like to sideskirt the issue by going for the
>B-but sperm is alive too! They should count as a human too!
which is scientifically false, yet here we are.

>>83700881
Morals are purely subjective. You can use some logic to guide your morals (eg best outcome for most people) but that's still your subjective decision. Even if you choose to follow the rules of a religion, that's your choice and it has no bearing on the moral compass of other people.

>>83700867
But there've also been cases for other Abrahamic figures, not to mention other rituals like in Hinduism or Shinto.

>>83700803
>It's better than crashing planes into buildings and throwing stones at women who cheat and hanging gays.

But why do you think Islam is the only other potentially true religion? Why not Hinduism? Or Norse Paganism? Or some Siberian tap dance cult neither of us have ever heard of?

>>83700862
Although I was being silly with that comment, I think it DOES have relevance. Jesus tells people to love each other and take the punch when they hit you (metaphorically). Islam tells people to fight those who don't believe.
Jesus told people to look at their own sins before throwing stones. The Muslim prophet commanded people to be killed for their sins.
This obviously doesn't prove that neither religion is true but I would rather follow the guy that told us to love each other rather than the murderer.
Yes I know this doesn't prove either existed. Yes I know "it was a different time", jesus raimi.

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>>83700907
>if god's not real, how can you hate him?

>>83700940
>Jesus tells people to love each other and take the punch when they hit you (metaphorically). Islam tells people to fight those who don't believe.
MY TEMPLE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A HOUSE OF PRAYER REEEEEEE
-jesus before assaulting people

>>83700923

Yeah that one is particularly annoying because they're essentially wearing their ignorance on their sleeves.

>>83700836
Thallus (52AD) and Julius Africanus, who cited him, are the two earliest completely secular sources. Then Tacitus.

>>83700874
This post truly epitomizes the quality of posting I've come to love and expect from /tv/

>>83700923
>>83700953
nice samefag

>>83700951
He didn't assault people, he just got mad like any normal human being.

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>>83700976
nope, sorry

>>83700200
*tips fedora*

>>83700073
Actually if you're a Christfag on 4chan it means you're a contrarian who LARPs on /pol/ about muh DOOS VULT

>>83700967
>earliest
>almost 30 years after Jesus died
Why the fuck did it take everyone so long? Why did everyone decide it was worth writing about Jesus only decades after he died? It's almost as if they needed all those years to make up the fake story of Jesus.

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>>83700951
>take the punch when they hit you (metaphorically)
That doesn't mean what you think it does

>>83701004
Or because he had a short 3 year ministry in rural Judea.

No writers gave a fuck about a random nazarene rabbi wandering through fishing villages until several years later when there was a whole religion.

>>83700200
>skyman believer
you're only knocking renaissance masters edgelord.

>>83700616
>33Again, you have heard that it was said to the ancients, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill your vows to the Lord.’ 34But I tell you not to swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35or by the earth, for it is His footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36Nor should you swear by your head, for you cannot make a single hair white or black. 37Simply let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ Anything more comes from the evil one.
>Matthew 5

There are also some verses about keeping thoughts and words "pure" or whatever. So, it doesn't explicitly forbid it, but it's not hard to see why the idea was developed.

>>83701043
The thing is maybe this religion came to be without an actual nazarene rabbi ever existing.

>>83701125
Those verses are about swearing an oath, not cussing.

"pure" is left undefined. Swear words being impure is purely cultural and has no relation to spiritual pureness

>>83701145
Perhaps so.

When you're dealing with things this old, it can be tough to be sure of anything.

It's almost like they should call it a "Faith" or something

>>83701145
this, people are just too attached to the jesus meme figure when he was probably imaginary like Buddha

>>83700716
>your deity needs to be physically real to create a church for it.

>>83701268
But Siddhārtha Gautama existed as well, anon.

>>83700652
I'm pretty sure they weren't atheists, bud.

>>83700881
>It's the religion that best explains the way the world is
That's retarded logic probably because you already believe in the faith to begin with. "I think it best describes the world, therefore it does". This is a fallacy.

>>83701288
The major classical religions all have a founding figure:

Judaism
>Abraham/Moses

Christianity
>Jesus of Nazareth

Islam
>Muhammad

Buddism
>Siddhārtha Gautama

>>83700923
>sperm isn't alive
lol how do people get this retarded?

>>83701026
>this "Jesus was secretly violent ;)" /lit/ meme.

>>83701362
>They still don't get it

A sperm cell is not a biologically complete human being. A sperm cell does not have the capability to turn into a human being.

An embryo, on the other hand.

>>83701358
I didn't say they didn't? Your founding figure can be fictional, anon. What are we arguing here?
Your deities don't have to be physical people to form a religion.
>see: Zeus or any Greek or Roman god.
>see virtually every other non-Abrahamic religion

>>83701392
Are we forgetting that time jesus used a whip to kick people out of the temple?

>>83701436
>A sperm cell is not a biologically complete human being.
Yeah see, nobody is saying that. It's still alive. So your argument is one of semantics? Gotcha.

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>>83701436
>A sperm cell does not have the capability to turn into a human being.
>therefore on my "Christian-approved spectrum of what is considered life and still makes me feel good": sperm is not alive.
>But an embryo is
>because I say so
Holy kek, this is what your new argument is?

>>83701436
>A sperm cell does not have the capability to turn into a human being.
Neither does an egg without sperm...

Semantics, faggot.

>>83701466
>semantics
No, its a question of what counts as a human being and what does not.

A plant cell is living, but does not count as a human being.

A sperm cell is living, but does not count as a human being

An embryo is living and IS a genetically complete human being

yeah haha ironic christianity right guys ahaha this meme is hilarious

>>83701466
>>83701499
>>83701519
another proof that atheists are low IQ retards that follow it because it makes them think they actually aren't stupid

>>83701523
>No, its a question of what counts as a human being and what does not.
That's moving the goalposts, the conversations has literally always "what do we consider alive?" Not whether something counts as human.
>An embryo is living and IS a genetically complete human being
This is not fucking true in the slightest.

>>83701026
>in antiquity you only hit someone with your right hand
Is this for real?

>>83701519
>Neither does an egg without sperm...
Where did I say an egg DOES count?

Egg = not a human
Sperm = not a human
Egg + Sperm = human

The question pro-choicers then face is: "is it ok to kill the thing if it wouldn't know it"

>>83701542
What are you actually insulting me with? I'm atheist, because...it makes me think I'm not stupid? What am I following? Who? Can you narrow down your insult so it makes sense to people who aren't autistic?

>>83701499
>But an embryo is human because I say so

If you don't know why an embryo is significantly different, from a genetic standpoint, from a sperm or an egg alone, I can't help you.

Come back after you take high school bio.

>>83701562
>Egg + Sperm = human
Its':
Egg + Sperm + development over time + actual birth = human

>>83701578
>can't even understand the insult
truly a retard

>>83699847
Funny, because Trump's presidency confirmed that there is either no God at all or that God hates us all and is finally reaching the end game for the human race. It's about time too.

>>83701586
>If you don't know why an embryo is significantly different, from a genetic standpoint, from a sperm or an egg alone, I can't help you.
Nobody is saying that you clearly illiterate nut, the point was that an embryo is not a fully fucking formed human like you claimed for some odd reason. An embryo is most certainly not a complete human being.

>>83701622
Because it's barely coherent?
>heehee like, he follow it because he dum dum because he think it make him smartie pants
What am I FOLLOWING? Atheism isn't something you "follow", faggot.

>>83701542
>people call me retarded
>they just don't get my science knowledge that my christian conservative politicians with no background in science gave to me

>>83701562
>The question pro-choicers then face is: "is it ok to kill the thing if it wouldn't know it"
I don't need to ask that question, I'm not a pregnant woman. Ask her.

>>83701669
Try thinking about it, maybe you will get it, retard.
>>83701686
I wasn't even that guy, simpleton, way to prove what a bunch of retards you all are.

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>>83701358
Apparently Muhammad never existed according to this Jewish author

>>83701711
>I wasn't that guy
you are literally these:
>>83701542
>>83701622
>>83701711

Kill yourself, you are clearly not as smart as you pretend.

>>83701643
>An embryo is most certainly not a complete human being.

Genetically, an embryo is 100% complete. All of the information dictating the person's body are already there.

>>83699973
A fetus is always human you idiot, the question is the point where it became a human being.

If I cut your finger is still human, but not a human being.

>>83701725
>Jewish author disproves Islam
Wow who would have thought...

>>83701725
See my point sometimes is, who fucking cares if they were real? Why would you (seriously ask yourself) uproot your entire life and belief system on the dice roll of a man "maybe?" existing 2 thousand years ago, and you need to remodel how you live your entire goddamn life based on what he said, in an entirely different political, social and economic landscape than you?

None of you faggots would even speak their language.

>>83701780
And when is that point?

>>83701562
>Egg + Sperm = human
Your equation is missing something.
>Egg + Sperm + nine months in the womb = human

>>83701766
>if I keep moving the goalposts
>I win
>t. christfag logic
I'll never win.

>>83701643
As soon as the sperm fertilizes the egg, life has begun and it is a crime to then murder this baby being born.

>>83701711
>I'm not that retard, I just agree with his retarded insights into life
Explain to my why I should care?

>>83700478
Those gospels are at least 150 years younger than Jesus

>>83701695
You could always wait until the child is born and then ask them if they'd have preferred to be aborted

>>83701815
Sometimes some crimes are justified though, right?

>>83701781
Robert Spencer is the most anti Islamic man and yes he is a Jew. Havent heard from him in ages since the media dont like people critisizing Islam

>>83701815
Why not just full hog then and say the minute I ejaculate in the direction of a womb? Gee wizz, it's almost like this is semantics.

>>83701831
I know I wish I had been aborted.

>>83701824
>saying that an embryo will turno into a fully developed human is retarded
I see, atheists trying their hardest to look stupid today.
And you shouldn't care, just like no one cares about you.

>>83701834
If the mother's life is in danger, then yes.

In most other cases, no.

>>83701831
>talk to a baby
Or maybe you could fund contraceptives for both men and women and put more money into child care services to incentive people aborting less overall?

Of course, we don't like facts here so you probably don't like how it is a statistical fact that areas with easier access to contraceptives have lower rates of abortions...

But like I said last thread, you retards don't care about actually preventing abortion. You just want to scream about it.

>>83701839
Did you fertilize an egg or just cum on her leg? If her leg then no baby has been made yet so it not a crime

>>83699666
Protestantism was a mistake.

>>83701839
>lol dude sperm is just like a fertilized egg and and embryo xD it's just semantics dude!!!!!!!!

>>83701848
It's not too late.

Go to the nearest Planned Parenthood. Maybe they have one of those hypodermic needles they can stab in your skull to suck out the brain like they do with the babies

>>83701791

Persons have rights. Human meat don't, and before you ask, braindead people don't have rights either.

>>83701839
Why not go further?

The minute I have an erection is a human being haha lmao XD

#Hillary2020

>>83701875
But what if my sperm is really close to her vagina, OR, what if she has a miscarriage? Should I punch my wife's womb? It committed a crime!

Should we hole up girl's vaginas when they start to menstruate? That's killing eggs anon! EGGS I HAVE TO USE FOR My SPERM!

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>>83699854
>stupid people aka Christians

>>83701885
There are little life forms roaming around in a guys sperm anyway...

Poor little worms that fall to floor and die when u fap :o

>ITT virgins bitch about when life begins as if they will ever get even remotely close to procreation

>>83701885
>literally something nobody has said
Keep inventing arguments in your head though.

>>83701873
But that's what the liberals want, and if the liberals like something it means we have to hate it. Just like we should defend Israel cuz liberals dislike it.

>>83701892
So when does the fetus stop being human meat?

Is it when brain function begins? Because many, many fetuses have been terminated that had brain activity.

>>83701913
No. If the sperm doesnt touch an egg its fine. Only when it does and a baby is born then it should be a crime to abort

>>83699854
>excist
>to

>>83701912
I'm not quite sure who you are actually making fun of here.

>>83701954
The fetus is a human the moment its born. It just hasnt grown in normal size yet duhhh

>>83701959
>Only when it does and a baby is born then it should be a crime to abort
>abortion
>when a baby is born
>when born
>abort
Well yes, that would be infanticide

>>83701941
>implying I wanna give birth
Too many mouths to feed on this planet at moment

>>83699903
you're looking at it all wrong just like the loony evangelicals you probably had in mind when you wrote this

you don't be a good christian to avoid hell think about how that sounds, worshipping out of fear, performing all the rituals carefully eating the crackers on the right day lest you be cast into hellfire

makes you sound like a dirty pagan. nothing good is done out of fear

same applies to not eating the special crackers on the umpeenth saturday after the new moon because you think you'll live forever in heaven

why are atheists so scared of actually discussing the argument? they always start screeching and posting ironic comments and making false equivalences

>>83701985
I remember when I was a fetus and I was kicking at the walls going "let me outta here, momma! Don't abort me!"

>>83701852
But without that time, it's just a deliciously abortable embryo.

>>83701928
I wouldn't wanna argue with that guy

>>83701992
I mean when the sperm fertilizes the egg hence baby is already made just not grown yet

>>83702017
>why are atheists so scared of actually discussing the argument?
They aren't. Maybe if you relaxed and stopped burning down abortion clinics, you could have a civil discussion.

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How much of a kike puppet do you have to be to argue for the right to kill your own child, your only reason for existing.

>>83701985
So it has to come out of the womb to be human?


So some fetuses become human before others, even if those others are ahead developmentally?

>Baby 1: born 3 weeks early, less fully developed
>Baby 2: still in womb but more fully developed than Baby 1

but Baby 2 could still be killed while Baby 1 (less developed) is immune?

Where is the reason in that?

>>83701954
No, they haven't. Some vague "activity" in a still not formed brain isn't brain activity.

>>83702006
>hates abortion
>thinks the planet is overpopulated
>doesn't see the problem with that logic

>>83702048
>once the sperm hits the egg the baby is made
Are you like, 8 or something?

>>83702063
ok. you've stated what brain activity isn't

what IS brain activity?

>>83702009
Thing is people actually use that "do you know you'd go to heaven if you died today" thing as a pickup line to try and evangelize to people on the street

>>83702059
I MEAN THE MOMENT ITS FERTILIZED SORRY I MIS WROTE MY POST

>>83702017
>I want intellectual discourse on my Vietnamese Poetry website!
You've come to the wrong place.

>>83702073
But it is. It just hasnt grown yet

>>83702022
yeah, and the only reason in this scenario why it doesn't have time is because is being aborted

>>83702052
>you only exist to make crotch spawns
>meanwhile is a virgin who will never be within thrusting distance of a woman without it being rape

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>>83701873
>But like I said last thread, you retards don't care about actually preventing abortion. You just want to scream about it.

Here's the only thing I want to scream about:

I advocate for giving EQUAL RIGHTS to MEN over THEIR CHOICE to be PARENTS or NOT.

We're sick and tired of being FORCED to pay for OUR UNWANTED CHILDREN women CHOOSE to create against OUR will, and we're sick and tired of being FORCED to stand by while women get to CHOSE to MURDER OUR WANTED CHILDREN.

#paperabortion
#don'tkillmychild

Also:
#myforeskinmyrights

>>83702135
Stop projecting, and stop being a ZOG puppet. Good lord that was a jewish response.

>>83702088
can't stand most evangelists, this shit makes them pathological
you can see it in their eyes

doesn't help that where i'm from there are no evangelists from major denominations, just cults like that global church of god or whatever that worships a chink

The logic in this post >>83702059 explains why I think the "It can be aborted until it's born" argument is dumb.

Babies are born earlier and earlier and continue to survive, thanks to modern medical advances.

If the mother went into the NICU and tried to kill one of those premies, they'd be charged with murder.

If the baby was still inside her and she wanted to kill it, they'd call it an abortion.

Really makes you think.

>>83702103
That meme is not funny and never was. Stop trying so hard.

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Stop false flagging.

>>83702174
>I'll claim he's projecting! I can't be a virgin if I deflect the argument!

>>83702141
woah there, settle down mgtow...

>>83699666
When Satan is referring to himself as god

>>83702190
Oh you're right. My bad. This IS the perfect place to have intellectual conversations about hot button issues with levelheaded individuals.

>>83701631
t. community college dropout that still lives with his parents

>>83702115
amazing logic. You converted me.

>>83699666
>You only grow out of atheism
Well, you certainly won't grow out of autism

>>83699666
OP is right but GND2 was trash

>>83702248
>only dropouts hate Trump
>lowest approval rating of any President
>literally despised by the planet
>despised by his own party
>despised by his own supporters now
>A geriatric Jew from Vermont is literally more popular
That's why he won that popular vote, amirite? ;)

Why do pro choicers always try to make an argument about how you are not killing a human being? Can't you be pro-choice AND think you are killing a person when you abort? I mean that's what I think but I feel like the rest of the pro-choice people just do some dumb mental gymnastics and don't actually believe a fetus is not a person. I just think that killing an unborn person is justified sometimes.
And I also don't get why most pro-lifers also oppose sexual education and contraceptives if those are the things that will prevent abortions. And why they never make a case for helping the woman with her pregnancy and to help her give the child for abortion, they always try to make it about guilt tripping the pregnant woman and how she will be a horrible person if she aborts.

>>83702248
>community college
WRONG I went to a State University.
>dropout
WRONG I graduated.
> that still lives with his parents
WRONG I moved out years ago.
Nice projection though.

>>83700907
Maybe we don't know the real story of Satan...until now.

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>>83702226
>Whaah! Don't threaten my gibs!

>>83702300
believe it or not, most pro-choices don't like the concept of abortion...hence why it's about "choice". Most normal people are not snickering behind the walls of abortion clinics and hoping they kill babies.

>>83702242
It may be or may not be depending on how serious you need to be. Either way calling it a [random country] [random topic] website is facebook level of humor.

>>83702336
Woah, mgtow memes? How will I ever recover?

>>83702336
Then get a vasectomy. Or only have sex with women you love and trust as well as know they won't keep a baby you don't want. You sound like you have some serious trust issues.

>>83702300
they would have to admit they are not so enlightened and are cheering for mass murdering or grow out of their edgy phase where human life has no value so who cares about all those potential humans being exterminated

>>83702300
>and don't actually believe a fetus is not a person.
It really does boil down to stage of development.

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>>83700855
Human life isn't inherently valuable, you faggot.

>>83702378
OH SHIT HE FOUND US OUT!

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>another thread where theists come out of the woodwork to argue for religion on a anime porn imageboard
>214 post 51 IPs

Reminder that these are the type of people who come to 4chan to evangelize.

>>83702388
Yeah but it's still gonna be a subjective thing.
I *also* don't understand why Christians are so mad about killing a "person" that isn't even self aware yet. Isn't the fetus "innocent" and going to Heaven anyway?

>>83702378
We're at a point where there are too many people on the planet for them to be all that valuable.

>>83699847
Trump's an atheist though

>>83702432
He's right though.
>inb4 buzzword insults

>>83702081
Look your laws already cover that. Why are you mad about it? I'm telling you that brain activity is the mark, just that "some electrical activity" in the bunch of cells that will form the spine and brain isn't the same as actual activity, even braindead people have some.

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>>83702371
Vasectomy is more permanent than the right to a paper abortion. That gives me zero choice to be a father if I so desire.

Why don't you get a hysterectomy if you don't want children?

>>83702455
>he's right because he parrots how uninformed I am in my own social life to get certain cues about behavior towards women!
Sure it's an insult, but you asked for it.

>>83702440
They are contrarians and validate their religion everytime someone they dislike isn't Christian.

>>83702477
You realize they are reversible...?

>>83702477
>Why don't you get a hysterectomy if you don't want children?
I'm not a woman for one. I'd get a vasectomy if I had the money, but I have more pressing concerns at the moment. You also didn't address my assumption that you have serious trust issues and that only confirms it. How may snot nosed brats are you raising right now because of "women's rights"?

>>83702440
Christians value life and think a life should come to its own natural conclusion thus no killing, assisted suicide, abortion etc.

>>83702301
>he feels the need to lie on an anonymous Peruvian glass blowing forum

>>83699854
>stupid people
>excist

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>>83702515
You realize There is a less intrusive alternative?

#paperabortion
#don'tkillmychild

Also:
#myforeskinmyrights

>>83699809

I heard its totally a mythos and not a collective interpretation of the human condition. Keep it up im sure you want fall for the commie trap too

>>83702542
>thinks I'm lying
For what reason? If any of what was said was true, I would have ignored the post and pretended I wasn't the one who made that post. Meanwhile you project all of that on anons you don't know as if that will keep you from ever being accused of the things you yourself accuse others of being.

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>>83702534
>I'm not a woman for one.

You sure talk like one. Maybe you're just a fag... or a jew... but I still don't believe you.

>>83702780
I don't need you to believe me. You've proven to me that you are exactly what you appear to be, a weak willed "men's rights activist" with serious trust issues in women. I highly doubt you've been in more than one relationship and I am willing to bet it didn't end on your terms. You can either hold on to that bitterness until it consumes you or you can release it and grow as a individual. My guess is that you'll just hold on to it and be a bitter forever alone. A pity. Or you're just trolling like a retard. Either one sounds likely.

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>>83702361
So you have no reasonable explanation then.
Why don't you just say so, instead of employing such an obvious dodge?

>>83700616
Is that what autism looks like?

>>83703085
not an argument

>>83700867
There have been more cases where prayer causes sickness. You can look it up. Patient will suddenly become more ill after people pray. add that to your thought, equals prayer doesn't mean shit.

>>83699666
>faith in Jesus

>praying a zombie Jew because of some mistranslated fantasy book written by sandniggers thousands of years ago

shiggy

>>83701797
are you retarded? Honest question.

You think time spent in the womb crafts a fertilized egg from one species into another?

>>83703728
Oh shit. You just tipped your fedora so hard it's spinning.

Tell us more about your katana collection!

>>83703797

about half a billion people around the world are atheists, so your fedora joke is very unfunny.

I'm sorry If i insulted your imaginary friend.

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>>83702892
Typical female internet response. When you can't control/punish a man in person with threats of disallowing access to your holes, you try to do so by proxy by making unfounded assumptions about his sexual prowess.

Hilarious!

>God's not dead, he's surely alive
>He's living on the inside, roaring like a lion
Kek christfags sound like fucking children....when they're not actually fucking children, that is.

>>83703993
They love their juvenile animal metaphors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9ujBoud26k

>>83699666
>Those digits
Christianity confirmed as a Satanic religion. Islam is the one true faith. Turn to Allah you fools, and get your free 9 year old bride today!

>>83700979
>So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.

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>>83699666
Trash. So psychologically unrealistic I don't understands how Protestants can appreciate it.

Actually good Christian movies/ movies with Christian themes:
Calvary
Of Gods and Men
Tree of Life and the rest of Terrence Malick's more recent films
Ben- Hur (original of course)
I Confess

Never seen Diary of a Country Priest but I've heard it's good

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>>83704139
Islam worships the same god that christians do you moron. "Allah" is just the arabic name for god. It's the same god, and the same patriarchs, including abraham, moses, and jesus.

Why are you all so dumb?

>>83701954
Show me one example of a fetus that was aborted that exhibited frontal lobe activity

Of course, you weren't being dishonest and only considering parts of the brain that are irrelevant to higher thought and self-awareness, like the brainstem, were you?

>>83704139
>Christianity
Protestants are basically pagans.

>>83702440
>Isn't the fetus "innocent" and going to Heaven anyway?

Well this depends on the dogma. Some interpretations say if you aren't baptised, you can't get into Heaven. Ever. Some say unborn babies go to purgatory. There are even some nutty sects think you can posthumously baptise the dead and thus save their souls, these are often the type of assholes who go around publicly baptising famous non-christian people like Anne Frank, etc. in order to "save them" because they were pagans by not having converted into Christianity while being alive.

>>83703898
LOL. That's why they sell so many knives and swords on home shopping channels.

C'mon nigger. If that's your argument, you've already lost.

By your statement, that leaves 7 billion people who believe in a god.

>>83704747
>sell so many knives and swords

I honestly don't know what are you even making fun of.

>If that's your argument

that is not an argument for the nonexistence of god, it only shows that equating people who don't believe in fairy tales with 'le contrarian fedora tipper' is idiotic - most atheists are normies.

BAYWATCH reaffirmed my faith in Jesus. Saw it with my crew. We roll pretty deep and let me tell you, not a dry seat in the house. The piss was intense. Piss dripping out the seats, piss flowing down the aisles, piss in the popcorn. Piss jets in every direction. I actually shit myself three times, I told the door monkey and he was like "Aww here goes" and we fist bumped. It was all a good vibe. Great night out and if you roll with a chill crew and not a bunch of permavirgin goobers then you'll have a wicked sick time. SLAYED

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The most common problem atheists have is in their confusing God with "religion". God is not religion, and religion is not God. In fact, atheists are some of the most fanatically religious people on the planet. Their religion is one of the most rigid and exclusionary of all religions, as they regularly demonize, shun, and disparage all others who do not abide by the tenents of their belief systems and practices.

Religion is not simply a set of beliefs in a supernatural power, but is a rigid code of ethics and philosophy, based upon a specific system of belief, practices, or values even resembling, or suggestive of such a system of belief. Atheists often complain about others "pushing" their religious beliefs upon them, yet are some of the pushiest people on the planet when it comes to their own belief system, which they often promote quite religiously.

Here's a little food for thought . . .

What is time? What is its nature? When did time begin? What happened before that?

How big is outer space? Where does it end? When you get to the end of outer space, what's on the other side?

If you atheists are not wise enough to answer these questions fully and accurately, then you are certainly not wise enough to positively and unequivocally make the great and final pronouncement upon the eternal question of whether God does, or does not, in fact, exist.

Modern Science Finds God (A Video Presentation) - https://www.youtu.be/E2fswCPeu_Q

>>83700165
actually it should because you live in a civilized society and are not a caveman living circa 10,000 BC, which is why we have rules and codes that apply to other people

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Atheists seem to have a penchant for grand, and all encompassing pronouncements. You know, people with small minds often like to reduce complex issues down to a question of black and white, left or right, either/or, and all or nothing. It seems to comfort them in a way perhaps best described as mental masturbation.

They purport to offer "proof" . . . either that "God does not exist", or that some people invent, or hold on to odd, and sometimes bizarre beliefs about the nature, purpose, and existence of God.

In the former case, I would have to say that they are raving lunatics with delusions of grandeur, for no mere human on earth has either the knowledge, wisdom, or ability, to make such a pronouncement upon that eternal question. In the latter case, however, I would tend to agree with them . . . as long as they also include atheists in their list of people who invent, or hold on to odd, and sometimes bizarre beliefs about the nature, purpose and existence of God.

Who would win in a fistfight, Buddha, Jesus or Muhammad?

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Just because someone calls themselves a "Christian", it doesn't mean they are one.

cough-John Hagee-cough

Warmongers do not believe in God. If they did, they would not be warmongers. Anyone can call themselves a Christian. If you call a dog's tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have? He still only has four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it one.

Those who do evil in the name of Christianity are most likely atheists, crypto-Jews, or other enemies of Christ who are trying to shame and discredit the Christian faith.

A tree is known by the fruit it bears. Calling a briar bush an apple tree does not get you any apples.

I really find it laughable, though quite pathetic, that atheists are actually far more religious and intolerant than most any others they attempt to criticize. They not only have a rigid belief system, flawed as it is, but are zealously religious about it to the point of gross hypocrisy, demanding that all others follow them or be ostracized.

>>83705185

is this bait? You want to sound smart, but what you wrote is actually retarded

>What is time? What is its nature?

it is one of the dimensions of spacetime.
> When did time begin?

about 14 billion years ago

>What happened before that?

this is a nonsense question, nothing did.

>How big is outer space?

about 93 Gigalightyears across

>When you get to the end of outer space, what's on the other side?

nothing.

>If you cannot answer these retarded questions, then something

false equivalence. You don't need to be interested in astrophysics to point out that God does not exist.

God does not exist because he cannot exist - omnipotence, omnibenevolence and omniscience are mutually exclusive, and if a being does not posses these, than it is no God.

Countless religious philosophers tried to tackle this problem with mental gymnastics and they all failed.

>>83702440
Limbo
Aborted fetuses are technically noble pagans

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>>83705487
>If you cannot answer these retarded questions, then something

Hey genius, what part of "answer these questions fully and accurately" don't you understand?

Are you holding that ADD riddled post of yours out as an example of what you morons call being "educated"?

Here's a clue for all you millennial university graduates:

indoctrination =/= education

Your professors are mostly godless communists, pushing a cultural marxist agenda. Listening to them does not make you smart. It just makes you brainwashed.

>>83706354

Ok, you haven't pointed out a single incorrect answer, I got trolled.

>pushing a cultural marxist agenda

we're talking about astrophysics here, why would it matter if they were marxists? Or perhaps you believe they are teaching 'marxist physics', like Hitler believed in 'Jewish physics'.

>>83706354
>fully and accurately

not enough decimal places? How is '93 Gigalightyears' not an accurate answer to 'How big is outer space?' and how does it relate to God?

>>83699666
are there newsboys groupies?

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>>83707006
>I got trolled.

No. You got exposed.
see: >>83705307

>>83707064
>not enough decimal places?

Nope. Not enough humility. You're simply a simple-minded, know-nothing, know-it-all.

>>83703965
Still not a woman and you failed to refute any of my claims, thus supporting them. I take it you have mommy issues too.

>>83703747
>a fetus is a species
And you call others retarded?

>>83707386

Lots of big words, mostly epithets, not a single attempt at logical argumentation. Typical zombie-Jew worshipper.

Pointing out that a god is a self-contradictory construct is not an 'all encompassing pronouncement' - unless you also believe that I shouldn stay suff like '2+2=4', because it is 'all encompassing' - in a way it is, because if 2+2=4 is true once, it is also true everywhere in the universe. How can I be so full of myself to say things like this?

>>83699666
As a youth pastor, these movies make me cringe especially hard because they are full of strawmen. The worst part is that my students want to watch these movies. I avoid them as much as possible, and the head pastor at my church agrees with me on them, but our youth group is on shaky footing so I don't want to come off as a tyrant and scare them away by outright banning these movies.

At least the classic biblical epics like Ben Hur and The Ten Commandments had some class and weren't pure propaganda. Ugly, poorly made propaganda at that.

I kinda liked Risen with Joseph Finnes, but it was far from perfect.

>>83707386
>accuses others of being simple minded
>posts epic may mays

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>>83708289
Jesus was not a jew.

If He were a jew, the jews would not have killed Him.

JEWS are bloodthirsty murdering beasts.

Just because they CLAIM to be "God's Chosen People", doesn't make it so.

"Jesus" (Yahshua) was an "anti-semite". That is why they killed Him:

Yahshua condemned the Jews of his day in the strongest of terms, as literal "children of the devil", "full of hypocrisy and iniquity", and "children of hell" (Matthew 23).

Yahshua speaking to the Jews:

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." - John 8:44

"Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?" -Matthew 23:33

*Note: "generation" in the above verse is from the Greek "gennema", literally meaning "offspring". Check for yourself in Strong's Concordance and a Hebrew and Greek Lexicon.

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Quick reminder.
Christians will always put their religion over their race or nation.
Never thrust a Christian or any religious person.

>>83708389
>As a youth pastor
>frequents the cunny-centric board
Hmm.

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>>83708705
"If Jesus was a jew, there isn't a jew in the world today, and if those people are jews, certainly our Lord and Savior was not one of them, and I can prove that."
Benjamin H. Freedman

http://www.whale.to/c/benjamin_freedman.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OmxI2AYV8

>>83708829
Just passing through for a day, actually. My home board is /k/.

>>83699666
>another biased christcuck movie

>>83708829
Matt 21:31

>>83701884
It's the Catholic Church's own fault. If you guys just hadn't started collecting indulgences like there was no tomorrow, then Luther wouldn'tve been so pissed.