DA FUCK IS DIS SHIT?

The devolution of the film industry

Bottom looks more real in motion. You'd know this if you'd actually watched the film instead of shitposting all day here.

>>83674107
"Muh CGI"

>>83674201
The only thing that looks good in motion is your mama's ass.

>>83674201
>Bottom looks more real in motion. You'd know this if you'd actually watched the film instead of shitposting all day here
oh that explains the unusually good reviews this movie got despite the shitty screen shots placed all over the web

>>83674107
I love practical effects and everything, but c'mon the top totally looks like plastic and putty.

>>83674107
Mortal Kombat

Why is everything blue and covered with lens flares nowadays?
Anyway, the second one looks worse both static and in motion. I watched over half of that piece of shit until I had enough.

>First pic
>A robot man they made to appear in a film

>Second pic
>You will curse the day you did not do! All that the Phantom asked of you!

The bottom one would look perfect if Cameron were the director because the CGI artists know that if they don't deliver perfection Cameron will penetrate their assholes with his fusion cam.

>>83674201
>better in motion
ITT forced memes

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DEATH AND SUFFERING

>>83674107

why is the bottom one so shiny?

>>83674376
it's the T1000 copypastad on his face

>>83674299
Kano

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>>83674107

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>mfw they desecrated the Rock

>>83674423
Liu Kang

>>83674437
This wouldn't have looked so bad if they just animated his face.

>>83674435
>it look beter in motion guise, i swaer JUS WATCH DA FAKIN MOVEE

>>83674449
Rayden

>>83674435

Well done you badly photoshopped his face over the webm to make it look shit, now show the original.

>>83674437
why not just strap some rubber claws on Rockman and cgi everything below his waist?? why make the whole fucking thing cgi? what were they thinking?

Because Jews just care about profit margin, and don't actually give two fucks about the "artistic value" of film or anything other than profit margin. A film can look like complete CGI shit, but it's cheaper to make and if the profit is there, they simply don't give a fuck. Jews gonna Jew, either accept it or say something about it

>>83674576
I bet the CGI cost more than actually getting The Rock on the screen with props and appropriate makeup and a few basic CGI touches.

>>83674586
1. 2004
2. 1997
3. 1997

God i hate CGI

>>83674506
Johnny Cage

>>83674666
Scorpion

>>83674586
04 looks better but the color grading is shit

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Here at Hollywood, we have textures, shader, and anisotropic filtering.

>>83674786
ASM2 is beautiful especially that suit.

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>>83674107
cgi is better than prac

>>83674437
I think the issue was that they couldn't afford to hire Dwayne Johnson just to do a small scene like this, so instead they decided to make it all cgi.

>>83674971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVi2klX_feE
no

>>83674786
Tobey's suit will always be the best suit. I don't care about "MUH COMIC BOOK ACCURACY", Tobey's suit looks awesome.

>>83675002
The art of film making is dead, bury it. Consider this mercy

>>83675026
Its a great suit but Garfield's is the best one. Those eyes.

>>83675002
>not posting the actual best example of animatronics that still looks better than most CGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2E9kBc7xG0

>>83674706
Sub Zero

>>83675183
Sonya Blade

>>83675174
Scary as hell

>>83674524
you can see in one of the trailers or promo videos, I don't remember, I'm not sure if they "fixed" it in the final movie

the op pic still exactly like that in the movie though, and in motion it still horrible

>>83674737
I never understood why Jabba in SE and TPM was a completely different color scheme. What was their rationale?

>>83674994
The Pebble hadn't done anything in Hollywood yet, he was still just a mandrama wrestler back then.

Who are these executives screaming that the kids these days want bargain bin cgi over practical effects? I want names.

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>>83675660
I just can't fathom how the original Jurassic Park looked eons ahead of Jurassic Worlds crappy cgi.

>>83674702
CGI Arnold doesn't look too bad here, but I don't know why they dropped the ball on duplicating the hair on the goons.

>>83675543
Lucas woke up one day and decided to change something, it just so happened that it was Jabba's turn that day.

>>83675002
This looks really good, they could just cgi the face a bit and normies would eat it up

>>83676181

The best CGI moments in JP was during night. If you just look at the daytie shots and the CGI stands out like a sore thumb.

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>>83676181
The original Jurassic Park was good at hiding CGI and mistakes;
while new movies glorify CGI and make it a spotlight.

Old Hollywood crews were humble and restrained, which made them intelligent in how they used their tools by maximizing potential, minimizing damage, and creating a balance.

New Hollywood crews are arrogant and self-absorbed, which makes them reckless idiots who don't care about balance and just stuff bloom and effects everywhere.

>>83674107
Makeup with some CGI is the best option
Full CGI will look like shit unless you are Marvel and full makeup you will end up with an ugly plastic doll.
You should be somewhere in the middle

>practical effects sometimes look like rubber (which they are)
>cgi looks like someone pasted badly something on the frame (which is what they do in a way)

if both options look like shit, wouldn't it make sense to always use the one that's actually there for the camera to register?

>>83674786
Funny, Garfield>Holland>Maguire in terms of suit but I'm 90% sure the movie quality will be the other way around

>>83676882
>i want practical

pretty much all the shops who did past kino are gone

>>83674107
That's some amateur level masking going on there on the bottom. It looks like they just slapped the skull there and didn't even bother to check if the light levels match on the scene itself.

>>83676903
ASM 1 was as good as the first Maguire movie, which wasn't even that good. Is it nostalgia?

>>83674613
Jews have controlled Hollywood for almost 100 years. If Jews just care about profit margin, how did any good movies ever get made in Hollywood?

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>>83676840

>>83676181

this basically
>>83676836
the night scenes still look fucking great, only thing off about that t-rex photo is the feet look odd against the set
also, the lighting was really well done, CGI now always looks like a slightly wrong shade, which seems like it would be fantastically easy to fix so i never understand why,...

also they draw too much attention to the cgi now

>>83675174
One of the neat tricks they used with Audry II was that the would film the puppet at a slower speed and speed up the footage.

Doing that allowed them to make more deliberate, careful puppetry and get more detail into the lip syncing so that it looked more natural in motion.

>>83675273
Fucking right. Everytime his head gets close to that mouth my heart skips a beat.

>>83677384

I don't know why that isn't a common practice, they managed to completely eliminate the jerky movements you normally get from animatronics.

>>83676944
>ASM 1 was as good as the first Maguire movie
Green Gobby> lizardman
https://youtu.be/VrhJiD3AEg4

>>83675174
nice puppet

>>83674367
the best example
I wish there was a "How not to fuck up tv and film for execs" 3 minute powerpoint that would save us all a lot of pain

>>83674702
Whats going on here, can someone give me a quick rundown? Why is the group of guys different and why did they cgi arnold?

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>>83674257

>>83676840
Or probably they just don't care, since 99.9999% of the audience won´t notice it.

Anyways they are meant to be pop corn flicks, no pretentious masterpieces...

So actually, who will care?

>>83675220
MORTAL KOMBAT

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>>83674201
>CGI looks more real in motion even though the practical effects were ACTUALLY REAL

>>83674367
How could anyone think right looks better? When I first watched LOTR the Orcs actually creeped me out.

>>83677571
>a movie maker shouldn't care about the quality of his work
>just like a doctor shouldn't care about the quality of his operation
>like the nurse shouldn't care about the quality of her care
>like a builder shouldn't care about the quality of their construction
>like a car maker shouldn't care about the quality of their car
>etc.

It's faggots like you that slow down the advancement and evolution of Humanity.

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Left side of pic related is an actual human in a costume, that makes me appreciate practical effects much more than CGI.

>>83677524
they remade the scene in genisys

>>83677777

Shiiiiiiit...

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>>83674107
>tfw terminator is now pg-13 cgi driven action schlock with a shit for brain plot and techno babble replacing the heart of the originals
I find it hard to bring myself to hate Arnold, but the Terminator franchise is dead to me after Genysis. I really want to know how much money they paid James Cameron to say Genysis was good.
The only way I could ever see another Terminator movie would be if Cameron came back, but seeing that he only wants to make more Pocahontas in Space movies, I know that's probably not going to happen.

>>83677724
Left looks like he knows how to file tax returns

>>83675543
35 year difference between the movues

>>83677941
>but the Terminator franchise is dead to me after Genysis
Well it's dead anyway.

>>83677632
cgi models can be changed at will and animated in any way, the freedom and precision in animating is practically infinite. compare practical effects which often have only one or two points of articulation and limited range of motion

practical effects obviously beat cgi in lighting because they are physically present in the scene

thus cgi looks better in motion and practical effects look better standing still

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>>83677777

Obligatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBzpT7VmSaU

>>83674586
best one if with this fat guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw1gkNd6Z_8

>>83678375
>Jabba could've been a fat Scottish guy
>instead we got a slug

Truly the worst timeline

>>83678375
>>83678516
reddit leave

>>83678043
>thus cgi looks better in motion and practical effects look better standing still
wich is something know already in the 90's
check relic for example, the close ups are practical, the movement cgi
and that's how it should always be

>>83674435

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3eUl8paKBc

>3:10

now you can fuck off

>>83674297
In motion it definitely looks a lot better

The Thing has the best special effects of any film, full stop. Anyone agree?

>>83679551
upvoted

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>>83674107
>>83674367
WHY IS HOLLYWOOD SO SHIT NOW AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>83674297
the top one actually looks like its part of his face

>>83679827
Nice meme

>>83674297
That's exactly how your skin looks when it's not covered in blood.

When you have a cut and you clean it up nice and well it looks like that.

>>83674345
Kek

>>83678375
kino af

>>83674786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOm1CgjFdn4

>>83679364
If Ahnold did the stunt, then why did they "fix it" on post-production?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGye6Xb36z4

0:23

>>83680138
Terminator 1 had better special effects

>>83679879
this
the other looks phantom of the opera

>>83678375
>"why did you have to fry poor greedo?"
>greedo is standing right there

>>83674367
the right one looks better in motion, you would know that if you went to the theater more often

I recomend Wonder Woman, the best film of the year.

Bring all your friends and family as well, it's a movie for everyone. :)

>>83674367
Did they actually hire big scruff beefy dudes for the uruk hai of lotr one and two? That dudes neck is thick as hell. Also the traps on suicide uruk

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>>83680835
they did.

>>83674367
>comparing an Uruk Hai to an Orc

>>83677531
Stop posting this same fucking image.

>>83677724
>costume
That's just your average kiwi on shrooms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uKRNlpT1X0

>>83674423
Kino

>>83675002

whats sad is that the knowledge of how to do this will be lost in twenty years

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Hollywood has lost it, why try for fickle Angslos when China will pay top dollar to see 2 hour video game cutscenes? It's over.

>>83677941
it's worth a pirate but the terminator franchise has no reason to exist anymore

>>83680138
how did he walk through the wall

>>83680135

spiderman 3 is the only good capeshit

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>>83674367
>>83677724
fucking why.
They have a world class costume department. That shit will never look dated, while the CGI in the hobbit looked dated upon release.

>>83681399
man this moment always gives me a boner

>>83681522
In the longer version when Arnold grabs the wheel of the semi is amazing.

I remember this show "Movie Magic" that had a lot of T2 stuff. This movie still holds up today except for cell phones and computers.

>>83681486
Because that would actually involve hiring talented people. Talented people are hard to find and demanding, not to mention more expensive. It's a lot easier for Hollywood to just hire 500 code monkeys and make everything CGI.

>>83674702
No Bill Pullman.

They can go to hell.

>>83681622
>not to mention more expensive

the fellowship had a production budget of 93 million dollars. Even adjusted for inflation that doesnt even come close to the budget of todays big blockbusters.

What the fuck happened over there in hollywood?

>>83674437
What ps2 game is this?

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>>83678375
>lucas said he intended to matte in a stop motion replacement, but due to time restraint, didnt.
>"Jabba, you're a wonderful human being."

sure you did lucas, sure you did.

>>83674107
T2 was the top in his year. Genezyz is just a cheap movie (and still flopped).

>>83681486
I believe another problem with using CGI is that actors can't bring their acting prowess just by staring at green shit in the set compared to actual props, makeup, animatronics, costumes, etc.

Like that example of Ian McKellen crying at the set of the hobbit being surrounded by green shit and mic stands with faces plastered on them

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>>83674257
Th...thanks

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>>83674107

>>83674586
both look bad. Lucas is a hack. There was absolutely no reason for this scene which is why his competent editor took it out.

It makes even less sense when we actually see Jabba in VI

>>83674702
Why did they change the punks' haircuts?

>>83681399
But this movie didn't do that well in China? It almost did as well in the USA as it did in China. Almost. Why do Americans constantly point fingers at china for shit movies doing well when they're the real perpetrators?

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>>83681486
They were going to do a lot more practical stuff originally. They even replaced a lot of the existing practical stuff with CGI

>>83680835
They might have beefed up the neck a bit with makeup