Twin Peaks: The Return is a HUGE FUCKING FLOP

the latter generation

>>83672556
can't be watched legally in other countries. I wanted to pay but it didn't let me.

normies getting LYNCHED

>>83672556
It's on SHOWTIME.

>>83673142
Those are American numbers, idiot.

This is probably good. That means the return will have a cult following too

>>83673183
this language is racist and classist and has no place on /tv/.

Please take your bigotry and intolerance to
>>>/pol/

>>83672556
nobody watches regular TV you dumb fuck

cult 90's show that only regained popularity because of the netflix and chill millennial crowd and is now a vehicle for Lynch to do some more of his crazy shit isn't popular?

shocked

>>83672556
lol those numbers don't mean shit.

The Live+3Days numbers are extraordinarily strong. And Showtime has recently announced that to coincide with the TP relaunch, its streaming numbers are the strongest that they've been ever and has led to more subscriptions in their history.

All of this is moot anyway. We already know we are getting 18 episodes and Lynch already buttfucked Showtime into giving him unlimited money and free reign on whatever he needed.

Not to mention that The Return has been completely fantastic.

SO SUCK DICK OP. SUCK 10 BILLION BAGS OF BABY FORESKINS.

Showtime
Normies don't get it

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I wonder why desu

>>83673570
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*breathes in*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


LYNCHFAGS WILL DEFEND THIS

>>83673218
what's an "american"

David Lynch doesn't need numbers
Twin Peaks is beyond television.

>>83672556
turbo americans

>>83673680
Build Wall, Paco

>>83673655
it's just the workprint version!

>>83673269
twin peaks was huge in its time

>>83673142

it's on mexican netflix

>>83673922
twin peaks was huge in its first season*
FTFY

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OHOHO NONONONO

>>83672556
These numbers don't count app streaming/Showtime On demand

Maybe it's because everybody pirates everything nowadays?
Seriously. You get what you pay for, we'll all learn that soon enough.

>>83673570
This isn't real. This can't be real.

>>83672556
Cord cutters, but also the fact that this is almost entirely divorced from the style and tone of Seasons 1 and 2, and is basically just 18 hours of David Lynch fucking around with some of the cast of the show, which while interesting and appealing to some people, probably didn't do it any favors with the people who are only familiar with David Lynch through Twin Peaks
I guess the fact that episode 5 got a boost in ratings is a good thing, but it's absurd to think that this new series could reach 1991 numbers

>>83674010
B R U H
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>>83673570
lol get LYNCHED nerd XD

Because it has none of the charm of season 1 and it's more like muholland drive with 60 year old twin peaks actors in new york than likable characters in a small town. It's not even really twin peaks.

>>83672556
holy shit do you honestly think anyone gives a fuck about the ratings?

we don't WANT another season. we're all watching it like its the only one and nothing can stop it coming out now.

We got what we wanted, so stop posting this shit.

Considering the 3rd and 4th episodes were released legally online on the same night eps 1 and 2 debuted, it doesn't surprise me to see such a massive drop.

>>83672556
People realized Lynch is a hack and Twin Peaks was never good

>>83673570
Honestly I'd rather see the show's budget spent on real sets and props, rather than CG. But yeah that looks fuckin bad, lol

>>83673213
This. If it were netflix or hbo or even fucking amazon prime we would see amazing numbers because they know how to advertise and build an audience for their shows. Showtime is the home of stuff you've heard is good but don't really want to pay to see.

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ehehehe

>>83673904
I don't speak nigger, sorry

>>83673961
so?

>>83672556
I don't know how anyone could've believed it was going to be any good when it's tailored specifically for normies

should I watch the old seasons before the new one?

>>83674488
Yes.
Then watch FWWM and the missing pieces.

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No one wants to watch the delusion of a pretentious old washed up faggot

>>83674010
wtf. did they teleport?

>>83674228
And yet fucking Ray Donovan gets better ratings than a show with a supposedly large built-in audience, that has been yammering on about it for 20 fucking years.

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>>83673494
>lol those numbers don't mean shit.

These numbers mean alot because you can compare it to other Showtime series.

1. Ray Donovan gets 1.5+ million per 1st run episode
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ray_Donovan_episodes
2. Penny Dreadful (which was just cancelled) got 500k
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Penny_Dreadful_episodes

Twin Peaks gets barely 200k which is pitiful for a heavily hyped series.

>>83674549
yeah, I am a fan of Lynch and the show, but the ratings really are embarrasing.

>>83672556
Does that factor in the viewers from Showtime and Amazon's streaming service? I imagine more people just use that instead of watching it air on television.

Plus Showtime was never that popular of a channel

>>83674562
The Knick (which was just cancelled) got 300k
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Knick_episodes

>>83674562
Since the killer's reveal; Twin Peaks has been a niche David Lynch show
Showtime knew this.

>>83672556
Ergh, you think that's a surprise? Have you seen it?

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You faggots are a bunch of blind followers of Lynch who won't accept that "Twin Peaks: The Return" is a total disaster. This is the final proof that rebooting old series is a really *really* bad idea, since not even Lynch can do it right.

TPTR is not Twin Peaks: it's a bland, sad, and pathetic attempt of self-celebration in the form of an artificial continuation of an unfinished old work. So old that you, the creator, can't even remember correctly. Ironically, at a metalanguage level, the topics of this reboot perfectly reflect what reboots per se are: concretely, a doppelganger, product of a creative void. It's not Cooper who is lost here, it's David Lynch himself. Maybe this is his unconscientious talking...

I will tell you one thing, /tv/: after watching the first episode I was actually deceived for a moment, as I thought it was going to be great; maybe it was going to be more in the direction of FWWM, but I was OK with that. But then, after episode two I started to realize what was really going on here. At episode three, I started to cry and almost turned off my TV, as I finally understood what was happening here: it was the dead of one of the greatest artists of the 20th century.

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>>83674597
The Knick was Cinemax though
Also it was only ever supposed to be two season. The original plan was to have two season arcs for the characters, with a new set starting with season 3-4, but they nixed that idea during development of the second season.

>>83674612
But did Caspere though?

>>83674562
Yet you speak of cancellations, when we know we are getting 18 episodes, and it has caused more people than ever to sign up for Showtime's streaming service.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-a-modest-start-twin-peaks-return-skews-streaming-1008141

Please, tell me. Are you watching this show when it airs?

>>83674630
is this pasta?

Love how Lynch isn't treating this like The Force Awakens and is getting back right into the story rather than pandering to normies who just want to watch it to be trendy on social media. Smart move.

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Post yfw normies got LYNCHED

>>83673213
>>83674228
its on HBO GO here (eu)

>>83674682
... people watching Ray Donovan or Penny Dreadful arent using the same streaming services? Nobody but Showtime has access to how many viewers watch Twin Peaks when streaming, reruns, etc are all factored. However we do have viewership for the 1st run episodes which we can compare the various Showtime series.

Ray Donovan >>>> Penny Dreadful (cancelled) >> Twin Peaks

>>83674368
PARTY ROCKER'S IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT

>>83673218
>episode 3 and 4 are on streaming
>they end up having shit ratings

wow what a flop

It's on Showtime, of course it's doing shit numbers. Half the people I know who were fans of the original show didn't know the new stuff was happening until those first episodes aired.

Once it finishes airing and ends up on Netflix all the normies who watched the first two seasons on there will see it and go NEW TWIN PEAKS WTF WHY DIDN'T I KNOW ABOUT THIS.

http://www.avclub.com/article/twin-peaks-came-through-streaming-numbers-expected-255990

>The full (including streaming and Live+3) ratings are now in for Showtime’s Twin Peaks revival, and, as expected, the premiere’s somewhat weak initial numbers have been heavily bolstered by viewers watching through non-”traditional” means. Most notably, more people watched “The Return, Part 1” and “Part 2” via streaming than they did through live viewings, pushing the show’s totals up to a hefty 1.7 million viewers.
>As we noted earlier this week, Twin Peaks has been extremely good for the network’s streaming services; Showtime has seen its biggest uptick in subscriptions to Showtime Anytime and Showtime On Demand ever.

>it's a "/tv/ forgets that no one actually watches live television anymore" episode

>>83674647
A nigger doing my surgery? Id rather die

>>83674945
Ray Donovan, Billions, Homeland, Shameless, etc are all doing fine for Showtime. Homeland averages around 2-3 million for its latest season

They arent doing 200k

>>83675014
Now compare that with other Showtime series

>>83673570
based lynch just don't give a fuck

>>83672556
It's 2017 and people are smarter
Lynch meme tricks don't work anymore except on simpletons and pseud on /tv/

>>83675068
When will you realize that doesn't matter. We aren't exactly worried about a cancellation lol.

>>83675031
This. Homeland still doing better than every HBO show except for GoT

>>83675157
you will be, when you realize that Lynch isn't planning to wrap up the story within this season.

>>83672556
They'll never beat AMC's The Walking Dead with those numbers.

>>83675073
Jay Bauman, is that you?

>>83675200
To be honest I'm not expecting any resolution at all anyway.

I thought you /tv/ faggots were saying this was normiecore - are you ever right?

>>83672556
It's on subscription-based premium cable. Ratings don't mean shit unless literally nobody is watching.

Don't really care. Show is only a limited return. He's going to tie everything up this season. Doesn't matter about the ratings, every episode is filmed and so far it's 10/10.

>>83675213
Well, it would be more fair to compare Twin Peaks' current ratings with early TWD ratings, when the series wasn't such a ratings juggernaut.
>The first season of The Walking Dead had an average of 5.24 million viewers.
Oh.

>>83673570
This can't be real
OH NONONONO UH UH UH UH UH....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH

>>83675291
>He's going to tie everything up this season.
Ahahaha, prepare to get LYNCHED.

>>83674368
is that a statue of uranus on his left?

>>83673570
LOOK AT THIS DUDE

>>83673570
looks cool

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>>83673570
You'd never guess David Lynch was involved

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>>83675291
>he's going to tie up everything this season

>>83672556

Because who cares about some "LOL so randum!!!" show from the 90s?

It wasn't even popular when it aired and none of the actors made any money from it.

>>83672556
This would only be a problem if the show planned to have another season, and it doesn't. If anything TV audiences are the ones missing out on some premium kino.

>>83673243
this. still sad though

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>>83673570
>>83674010
>>83674368

What in the flying fuck?

>>83674562
wait are you telling me that our boy Sam.... was more successful than most of these series

and that they cancelled his show... not for nazism or trump... but because bret gelman and tim heidecker bitched about it? Damn

anyway new twin peaks is pretty good in my opinion, i Love it

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>>83675984
>It wasn't even popular when it aired
anon...

>>83673570
>>83674010
>>83674368

Out of context and without sound, these do look really silly.

>>83674630

not a follower of lynch. I started watching twin peaks this month, after I discovered the new series was out. Marathoned first season, watched first 8 episodes of second then skipped to last episode, then started watching third season and I am enjoying it tremendously.

I've NEVER seen anything else from lynch, not even mulholland drive. But this season of twin peaks really got me. Hyped for the rest of the season. Don't give a shit about ratings

>>83676254

How do we stop retards from rebooting and remaking classics?

>>83676336
>watched first 8 episodes of second then skipped to last episode
very good decision don't let retards on /tpg/ tell you otherwise

>>83673570
>>83674368
MDE Season 2 is finally here

>>83673961
It's on huebr Netflix too.

>>83676384
I think I didn't miss anything required to understand the story in the return. One excess I conceded me, was to watch Fire Walk with me q2 fan edit, with all the deleted scenes. Having watched that there is nothing I feel I'm missing while watching third season, the rest I gathered from reading discussion on forums (mostly stuff about briggs)

>>83672556
>Showtime pulls the show from it's TV schedule
>dumps all the episodes for streaming at once
pls

if he already made who cares?

was he planning on a season 4 at all?

>>83676504
>>83676384
>>83676336
second half of season 2 is great, you guys just dont like comfy hijinks and character moments that play into the larger themes of the show.

>>83676627
No and he's not making anything else

>>83673570
Dude random xd: the "director"

>>83672556
But muh streams

>>83676751
I think it will be enjoayble for the campiness factor alone, I think I will go back to see first season again and then full second season while I wait for one of the new episodes. but for now it was enough

>>83673570
this is why you don't wear headphones with no audio playing

>>83677034
what did he mean by this?

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>>83672556
>surrealist arthouse
>high ratings
>in Burgerland
>ever

Did any of Lynch's movies other than Elephant Man not flop?

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>>83673570
>>83674010
>>83674368

t. underage cancer that has never seen a Lynch film in his life

He's all about that uncanny valley gci inspired by web art and glitch art

>premium cable
>massive bump in sub numbers
>and online viewing

They don't give a shit about ratings

>>83675291
>He's going to tie everything up this season
He hasn't even attempted to tie up any of the loose ends from season 2
If you think everything will be wrapped up in a neat little bow at the end then you've never seen a single thing that David Lynch has done

>>83676504
>Won't watch the parts of season 2 that aren't directly related to the death of Laura Palmer
>Will fellate the mess that S3 has been so far
Lynch """fans"""

>>83678005
Name 1 (one) Lynchkino besides Twin Peaks s02 where there were loose ends left untied that weren't just red herrings.
Pro-tip: you can't

>>83678005
>If you think everything will be wrapped up in a neat little bow at the end then you've never seen a single thing that David Lynch has done
Mulholland Dr was wrapped up so much with the second half's fuckton of callbacks to the first half to the point that it almost killed the mystery factor entirely. Same with Twin Peaks season 2 and all the exposition about the Black Lodge and their inhabitants. If anything Lynch tends to over-wrap up things.

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>>83677682
That's neither "uncanny valley" nor glitch art, it's just awkward tweening and cuts. It's not particularly unsettling either.

Who the fuck cares? This is the last we'll see of TP and Lynch already got all the money and control he needed over S3, so it doesn't matter.

Y'all normies got LYNCHED.

>>83675014
Additionally, eps 3 and 4 were released via streaming a week before they aired.

>>83678486
And yet Part 5 had half the viewership of Part 1.
Losing half your audience? That's bad.
Normies got LYNCHED

>>83672556
I recorded the last four parts but haven't gotten around to watching them. They are just very filling.

>>83678634
>Normies got LYNCHED
Why are you insecure faggots this excited? Does it really affect your overall enjoyment of a show?

>>83672556
those numbers don't include streaming and pirate fags such as yourself. this will be a cult classic and numbers will steadily increase over time until most people has seen it

he is getting critical acclaim, fuck the plebs they don't know good art they just want capeshit and zombies.

>>83678906
>critical acclaim
I GUARANTEE Lynch cares more about viewership numbers than critics' opinions

this whole thread =
ahahaha
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cry more Br Ba faggots

>>83673250
fag

It's completely inaccessible for new audiences, and your favourite characters from the original are old, barely recognisable and only have bit parts.
And the show isn't set in Twin Peaks.
It was never going to get big numbers.

I'm enjoying it as a kind of 'side story ' though. And besides, every good show gets cancelled. That's just accepted at this point.

>>83680205
BrBa is one of Lynch's favourite shows ya dip

>>83680545
proofs?

>>83680725
https://www.wired.com/2017/05/david-lynch-twin-peaks-interview/
Along with Mad Men.

>>83676336
>watched first 8 episodes of second then skipped to last episode
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>83673570
I actually find this shrinking part is very very good. A find this shrinking part is very very good.

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>>83675291
you fucking are comparing cable to premium? jesus, you people are so fucking dumb
>>83674562
the affair has the same shit number and it keeps getting renewed. I wonder why is that?

This whole fucking thread does not understand how this shit works. But how could you know this since you only watch the walking pleb and game of plebs. You people are the reason this fucking board is going to shit. Go back to fucking reddit.

>>83680765
fake news

>>83672556
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Borgias_episodes

>average numbers around 0,600

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Tudors_episodes

>average numbers around 0,800

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Weeds_episodes

>average numbers around 0,800

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Masters_of_Sex_episodes

>average numbers around 0,500

So if they really had a big uptick on their streaming site and if the show starts getting viewship like around the 2 first episodes, then its bascially doing as good as some of Showtimes own shows

>>83680865
stop trying m8, they don't know how that shit works. They'll compare ratings from the 90s to present just to bait people.

>>83673570
Lynched

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>>83673570
*hits the dab*

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>>83674368
thought this was fucking awesome

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>>83673218
Why are you calling him an idiot? How was he supposed to know those were exclusively American numbers? OP even cropped out the row titles

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>>83672556
>posts on counterculture imageboard dedicated to hating "normies"
>suddenly cares how many normies watch a show

?

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Whoever made this, I love you

>>83677623
Mulholland Drive did pretty well

>Already niche surrealist show becomes even more niche/surreal

I don't care that season 1 was popular because all the stopped watching in season 2 after the first few episodes were too LYNCHY

twin peaks is only back for one season anyways right? literally who gives a fuck about the ratings

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>>83673250
Hahaha
LYNCHED
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>>83673570
Am I the only one that finds it charming? I am giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming that its a stylistic choice. Maybe if just been LYNCHED.

Twin Peaks was always a cult show, so expecting it to pull mainstream numbers for its revival is stupid, especially when it's on a premium network.

>>83682713

This. There was/is a chance that it COULD catch on. The first season was a hit because America worshiped their TV sets for about 40 years straight.. so you had a bunch of normie shitheads watching thinking it would lead them to a better understanding of life or something.. so the viewers fell off.

>>83672556

I don't get it, what are those decimals representing?

>>83683735

1.000 = 1 million views

>>83684004

Oh, okay. Does it count streaming views?

>David lynch lynches himself.
Whoa shit, did anyone see that coming?

>>83684103

Probably not but I don't know

The amount of LYNCHING in this thread is unreal.

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I don't care about ratings, I don't watch Lynch because it's popular or not, I watch it because it's pretty fucking unique. It's an accident when he does something popular. Mullholland Drive wasn't exactly a success at the box office, yet it's a critics darling. And fuck it I still see glimpses of greatness in his Dune.

Me I'm just glad to be able to watch an 18 hours movie made by Lynch. It's been a while since he did anything at all. So I'm grateful for this, and personally Showtime got a lot of cred for allowing him to do this. I'm curious to see where he's taking Twin Peaks.
Couldn't give less of a flying fuck about ratings.