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Why are people complaining about diversity in Star Trek?

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Why are people complaining about diversity in Star Trek?
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>>83554479
Because online there are too many alt-right retards that mix with poser nerds (or whatever you call those people that pretend to like stuff that was frowned upon 10 years ago). Inside the fandom there is no discussion about that at all.
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the "people" you refer to aren't even fans. They just enjoy finding things to be angry about
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>>83554479
Old Trek wasn't forced diversity, it was just diverse and no one gave a shit. It didn't have armies of hipster journalists constantly ramming it down our throats that it was diverse and how you should hate yourself for being born with white skin and a penis
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>>83554479
>Computer generate a universe where I'm not a 27 year old kissless virgin
>Unable to comply with your request ... virgin
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>>83555337
Imagine being this delusional
How do you live in your self-invented hell?
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>>83555337
i think more importantly, Star Trek's conservative characters were not ham fisted 2D stereotypes. even the villains were made to seem heroic or principled in some fashion.
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>>83554674
No more questions sir
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I'm halfway through season 1 of TNG and love it so far. How is this supposed to get even better? Intoxicated Picard killed me in episode 2.
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>>83555392
but enough about yourself, how do you feel about Star Trek?
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you know why op
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>>83555995
Gene Roddenberry dies and better writers take over.
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>>83554479
Whats the complaint? Havent been here in a while.
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>>83554479
For all this bitching about alt-right and complaints about diversity, I have yet to actually see someone mention it negatively yet.
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Will we ever see true diversity in a Star Trek show? Like no human beings at all, or maybe one token human in a minor role?
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>>83556203
>>83556265
see >>83555337
Most trek threads that mention Discovery feature plenty of those autists.
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>>83555384
>The comma is now optional
Back on the filter you go!
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>>83556456
>>83555392
I miss the days when I was a liberal and we knew how to argue, now it's just insults and check your privilege.
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Anyone else here hyped as f*** for Star Trek: Discovery on CBS All Access?
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>>83556573
If you complain about something other than imaginary white genocide then we'll have ourselves a real discussion.
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>>83556573
I was a college Republican. Used to have wonderfully spirited arguments with my liberal friends, then had a beer together afterwards. Now it's just bike locks to the noggin
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>>83556811
No one, I'm hyped for Family Guy in Space though.
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>>83556889
This is why your political party will never hold power again and why nobody wants to associate with being liberal these days.
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>>83556811
Unironically yes. On one hand, it might surprise the naysayers. On the other, even if it's horrible it will make for some fine contrarian memeing.
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>>83556889
Nobody mentioned white genocide except you, why aren't you addressing the point of >>83555337 ?
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>>83556956
I just hope it's better than Other Space which the trailer seems to indicate. And looking more like Star Trek than the new Star Trek show is both a plus and a condemnation of STD.
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>>83556160
SPIC SHITSKIN posts on literally every thread
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>>83556975
>I don't care if the world turns to shit as long as the other team loses!
Enjoy your global warming.

>>83557007
There will be at least two main characters in STD who have both white skin and a penis. AFAIK they won't be made to hate themselves, and they won't encourage the audience to hate itself either.

If you judge a show by the journalists instead of waiting and judging by the show itself then you have nobody to blame but yourself.
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>>83557083
And don't forget MacFarlane has every single Star Trek actor on his speed-dial. So prepare for the occasional TNG/TOS/ENT etc. guest role.
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>>83557178
>There will be at least two main characters in STD who have both white skin and a penis
One being an alien which doesn't count, the other being the Captain who somehow isn't the main character, and combined with the fact that Isaacs is a very expensive actor, I suspect we won't see much of him at all.
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>>83557083
I just hope it's better than Cosmos, which Seth ruint.
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>>83557399
>One being an alien which doesn't count,
You're thinking of Doug Jones. I'm speaking about Anthony Rapp, who has white skin and a penis and is also a main character on STD.

I am happy that I was able to help you learn something new today.
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>>83554479
Not enough orion girls.
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>>83557541
Gays aren't White, they're biofuel.
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>>83556573
Argue about what? What makes you assume everyone that disagrees with your forced diversity ((((argument)))) is a liberal?
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>>83557866
Do you even know what those parenthesis means? Because I don't think you can if you're implying the Jews are against forced diversity in all forms of media as propaganda for western youth.
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>>83557933
Do you? Jesus /pol/, at least try to focus on the conversation. This is why everyone considers you a joke.
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>>83557967
What does this post mean?
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NON-BAIT TREK THREAD

>>83556931
>>83556931
>>83556931

>>83556931
>>83556931
>>83556931
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>>83555337
You haven't even watched it yet, it's not released, why are you getting upset at clickbaiting articles?
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>>83558011
>deep shit 9 thread
>/trek/ general
nah this one's fine
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>>83558453
>still angry after 7 years
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>>83558815
thank goodness theres something new to get angry about in the pipeline
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Post songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Ba8s9giBY
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>>83560128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-t2n_jk1QM
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>>83555337
>star trek wasn't forced diversity
are you serious son? it was one of the first shows to feature a black woman and an asian in a major role

it was also one of the first shows to feature an interracial kiss, which was actually controversial to the point where the network wanted two takes of the episode, one with and one without the kiss. fun fact: uhura was originally supposed to be named sulu, but the people involved thought that was racist because it sounded too close to "zulu" and they changed it to uhura
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>>83554479
Diversity should come naturally, not be forced.

Geordie wasn't "look! black people can be smart too!". Geordie was Geordie la Forge. He was a character with flaws and issues that would come to the surface when he was placed under pressure which he would have to overcome, it made him interesting to watch and added to the show.

Would they allow a character like him today? Would they air the episode where he creeps on a female scientist? They'd have to make him white or you'd find something to be offended by and the screenwriter would never work in hollywood again.

You don't want equality, you want to be pandered to and babbied, you want ointment for your inflamed sphincter. I am in fact more anti-racist than you because I am willing to slap you across the face and call you a cunt when you act like a cunt as I would anyone else instead of lick your asshole clean and put an adult diaper on you like fawning white leftists do.
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>>83561232
>Diversity should come naturally, not be forced.
>Geordi
>blind guy who is the pilot of a ship
Seems his blackness distracted you
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>>83562001
>Blind guy with special tech that allows him to see is a pilot
>Guy with no legs is a world champion sprinter
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
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>>83562073
>Data and ship's computer treated as subhuman slaves even though their capabilities surpass all of the organic retards combined
hmm
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>>83554479
They're not complaining about diversity. They're complaining about the total lack of a single white character.

Despite what liberal shit heads would have you believe, diversity includes white peoples too.
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>>83562886
>They're complaining about the total lack of a single white character.
In the new Star Trek? Jason Isaacs, Anthony Rapp and Mary Wiseman are all main characters and white.

Fuck off, /pol/ tourist.
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>>83562846
Robots don't have souls.
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>>83563278
Neither do transporter users.
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>>83556416

Think about makeup budget for live action show with all alien cast... it would be pretty damn expensive. Animation show could be option, but I suspect Trekkies would prefer live action show.

>>83560394
>are you serious son? it was one of the first shows to feature a black woman and an asian in a major role

I suspect half TOS public relations statements weren't about diversity of cast, but about amazing space adventure in spirit of wagon train to the stars. Yep, they had minorities in cast and that was it. Half of STD's press releases has been some sort of virtue signaling and other have been about people who have previously worked in Trek productions leaving the production.
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>>83554479
Do you mean the people saying Star Trek needs to be more diverse, or the people saying that those people clearly know nothing about Star Trek?
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>>83556956

>old black female Green Lantern

man, this forced diversity meme is going way too far
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>>83563431
All complaints should cease.
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>>83554479
Because critics and journalists will give just about anything they politically agree with a 10/10, and I'm worried progressive politics will be used to cover for poor quality, especially since there hasn't been a good new Star Trek series for almost my entire life.
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>>83563724
>critics and journalists will give just about anything they politically agree with a 10/10
Source?
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>>83563769
https://nytimes.com/2016/07/15/movies/ghostbusters-review-melissa-mccarthy-kristen-wiig.html
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>>83563272
Those aren't the main characters Captain autism
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>>83563984
Yes they are.

Jason Isaacs is the captain of the USS Discovery. You think that the USS Discovery won't play a large role in Star Trek: Discovery?
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>>83563957
That seemed like a level-headed review, though the title is obnoxious. I didn't see a 10/10 rating there, or any mention of politics, title included. Did you have any other sources, butthurt faggot?
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I dislike the new Star Trek because I disagree not with the show writers or the the show itself, but people who like the show for its diversity. Therefore its a bad show.
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>>83554479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I3y3_QmBsQ

This show is going to be really fucking bad.
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>>83564335
>rumor without sources
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diversity isn't an issue with me or most people in real life. I know half the time I jerk off I'm doing it to some non white chick. Hell if I have sex with some nigger I only make her smarter. Diversity isn't always bad. Have you guys ever checked out really hot interracial porn? Maybe you're just closed minded but it will change your life. Give it a shot, no?
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>>83564128
Is everything alright man? It's just a show
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>>83564408
First half of the video is FACT. He states this, second half is rumors.

Bryan Fuller left
Recasts after the first few episodes have already been filmed
New timeline not in kelvin or prime
Effects company that worked on star trek has been replaced.
Design of the ship at comic con was negative.
Fuller wanted the new Trek to be apart of the prime timeline, but they didn't.
The CEO at CBS doesn't want it to be apart of original canon.
The star trek Discovery design is made to be "Futuristic", like the JJ verse.
Script changes, Licensees were displeased with new designs especially klingons.
Worf was to show up as his ancestor but was only given 1% of his actual pay for other Trek shows.
The list goes on, and Midnight Edge is almost ALWAYS correct. I don't even remember the last time they were wrong.
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>>83564128

One of the worst box office bombs of that year, despite having massive budget on marketing. Gloating review that says that this movie is just as good as original Ghostbusters, that happens to be a classic film, is your definition of level headed.

>>83564408

You know, things like NDA's and shieet. There is a reason why leaks are usually anonymous.
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>>83564591
back to your containment board faggot
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>>83563272
>muh /pol boogeyman
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>>83564766
>New timeline not in kelvin or prime
Can you post a source?
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>>83564877
>complains that there aren't any white characters
>gets proven wrong
>still complains
Yes, that's /pol/.
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>>83564815
What does box office have to do with a subjective assessment of the quality of the film? Also, is your entire viewpoint based on the title? The text didn't seem to gloat at all.

If you're mad about clickbait titles, I'm with you.
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>>83564815
>There is a reason why leaks are usually anonymous.
Anonymous leaks are more untrustworthy when they're anonymous at both ends.

Somewhat trustworthy:
>An anonymous source told Midnight Edge that _______
>An anonymous source told Entertainment Weekly that _______
>An anonymous source told The New York Times that _______

Not trustworthy at all:
>A rumor says that _______

Where is this rumor coming from? Where did this YouTube channel hear it from? Is there anybody in the entire internet who's reporting it other than them?
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>>83565232
Look at their videos, they consistently have been correct about literally everything from Sony pictures, to ghostbusters to spiderman. They are hardly if ever wrong. They have sources, but they don't state what they are. The first half of the video is fact, undisputable, the rest as he says are rumors to be taken with a grain of salt. Except their rumors are always true.

Like they said that insiders in the Discovery show are unhappy with how kilingons look, and that they would be radically different. We see the trailer and this is the case.
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>>83565373
Who are these insiders speaking with? Are they speaking with Midnight's Edge, or are they speaking with [third party] and Midnight's Edge heard it from [third party]?

How does Midnight's Edge get the scoop that nobody else in the entire world has?
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>>83554479

I assume you mean SJW's complaining it's not diverse enough?

TOG, TNG, DS9 are all fine because society at the time was fine.

Discovery will be awful, because society has been infected with segregation masquerading as diversity.
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>>83564335
>20 minute video devoted to unsubstantiated rumors

Sigh. Well, what the hell else do I have to do?
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>>83554479
Trolls or people looking for things to complain about
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Will the Midnight's Edge denier apologize in a future Trekthread if what they've said proves to be true?

Will the Midnight's Edge shill apologize in a future Trekthread if what they've said proves to be false?
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>>83557516
oh it was fine
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>>83565569
What's going to happen is that some of the rumors will be true (STD will be shit) and some of the rumors will be false (Midnight Edge's previous video claimed that STD would be canceled before it even airs) and both sides will claim victory and nobody will learn anything.
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>>83564766
>Fuller wanted the new Trek to be apart of the prime timeline, but they didn't.
>Worf was to show up as his ancestor but was only given 1% of his actual pay for other Trek shows.
gonna need sources and the second statement doesn't really make sense
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>>83564065
spoiler:
he dies, the asian cunt is the new captain

mark my words
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>>83565847
The first bit doesn't have a source. It's pure bullshit.

Here's the second one.
http://www.treknews.net/2017/04/13/michael-dorn-star-trek-discovery/

Michael Dorn was offered a role as Worf's ancestor, like Colonel Worf in The Undiscovered Country. He turned it down because they weren't paying enough.
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>>83565737
hurrah!
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>>83563368

Look how fucking delusional you are, literally the point of Star Trek is a future were everyone works together, that's why everyone in the ship is from a different background, you idiot, you absolute moron, the show is the most leftist possible show in existence, it's about pan galactic space communism, you fucking idiot.
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>>83565996
>Colonel Worf in The Undiscovered Country
HOLY FUCKING SHIT, that was Michael Dorn? How did I miss this?
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>>83565232
>$0.01 has been added to your CBS All Access account
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>>83565486
The first half is fact.
>>83565427
Who knows, but they are always right sometimes months ahead of time. So take that what you will retard, of course they aren't going to name their sources. Fuck off.
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>>83566657
>there are no sources, just turn off your brain and mindlessly believe everything
Neat.
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>>83554479
Because the pendulum has swung left, so now it's counter-culture to hate the social justice warriors. 80's-00's were people sticking it to the religious right, because they were the zeitgeist at the time.

It doesn't matter that Star Trek was always a progressive show. It doesn't matter that it had the first interracial kiss or that it purposefully broke boundaries by showing a future all races and both sexes on equal footing. That sort of progressiveness isn't edgy anymore, it's the norm. Just like any support of religious right ideals or censorship of criticism of those ideals was blamed on religious soccer moms, anything that appears liberal in this day and age is going to be attributed to some SJW agenda.

It's all about sticking it to the zeitgeist. That's counter-culture, so that's 4chan. It's going to be bitching about liberals for the next few years, then the pendulum will swing back the other way, and being liberal will be edgy and cool again. It's already sort of happening. Repeat forever.
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>>83557967
>misuse a /pol/ meme
>hurr /pol/ boogyman
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>>83555337
>mug forced diversity meme
You guys are sad
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>>83565022
>What does box office have to do with a subjective assessment of the quality of the film?

While there are examples of classic films that bombed at box office and only gathered status as classic much later on, those are rare exceptions, most classic movies tend to do well at box office. Ghostbusters re-boot wasn't just a box office bomb, it was the box office bomb. Amount they spent on promotion, licensing and cross promotion with various licensees was large enough that Ghostbusters needed to make 500 million at box office... films budget was 144 million.

>Also, is your entire viewpoint based on the title?

No, I read trough entire review.

>The text didn't seem to gloat at all.

For me saying it is just as good as one of most iconic movies from 80's, one of best ever buddy comedies and one of best horror comedies of all time. It is basically saying that Ghostbusters re-boot instant classic and one of the best comedies ever. That isn't exactly modest review.

>>83566128
>Look how fucking delusional you are,

Starts with insults. Great.

>literally the point of Star Trek is a future were everyone works together

The point of diversity in Star Trek is that in future race is non-issue. Absolute non-issue. Non-issues aren't kind of things they make press releases about.

>that's why everyone in the ship is from a different background, you idiot, you absolute moron, the show is the most leftist possible show in existence, it's about pan galactic space communism, you fucking idiot.

Back when TOS was made progressives/liberals considered Arc fucking Light as the best thing ever. Carpet bombing jungle because there might be
some commies hiding in bushes, in countries where US military presence was unauthorized from legal stand point, nothing to do with international law, just US law.

Klingon Empire was space Soviet Union. Star Trek was about opposing tyranny by all means, including communist tyranny.
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>>83568383
Can you point out which specific press release has bothered you?
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I want white women to be bred by POC cock
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>>83554479
the entire cast of STD is black, that's not diversity.
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>>83569117
The captain is a white male. Move along home, tourist.
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>>83567504
>democrats can't get elected without a massively social movement behind it and even when they do they are centrist cleptocrats whose only difference from righties is how hard they push how religious they are
>socialism and labor movements have been driven into near irrelevance
>alt right whiggers have elected a national embarrassment into office
>the pendulum has swung left
Lol, the delusion and clueless ignorance in the US is out of control
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>>83568383

Now tell me about how in TNG the Ferengi are actually liberal boogeymen.
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>>83563368
Dude Rodenberry was a socialist to the bone and TOS was his vehicle to soapbox about racial and social issues, period.
Cold war, apartheid, women's right you name it, it was in TOS.
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>>83569940
I try to forgive them, but it's hard when they're so loud and stupid...
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>>83554479

because the captain was a white man

>oh wait he was jewish
>oh wait then he was a black man
>oh wait then it was a woman

fuckers complaining didn't even watch it
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>>83564856
>wtf i love 1% of the population controlling 99% of our news and entertainment!
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>>83571695
>jewish captain
u fukin wot
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>>83554479
I can't wait for the show to come out so all you idiots bitching about forced diversity and muslim captains will see that like most Star Trek, their race and gender doesn't come up 99% of the time.

And you'll FINALLY start paying attention to the egregiously incongruous production design and lack of continuity,
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>>83573736

shatner you ignorant fuck
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I don't care about the new show now that I have Bridge Crew and can live out all the autistic roleplaying I always wanted to do.
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>>83554479
Why is every black actor today more irritating than Michael Dorn and LeVar Burton were?
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>>83577428
Holy shit, Michael Dorn was black?
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Diversity then:
>Our engineer is a nigra
>"Commander Ryker, what are sex organs?"
>Women are just as good as guys pretty much!
Diversity now:
>Everytime someone talks, it's in a new accent
>White people are villains, or female.
>Every shade of brown and yellow outnumber whites
>"Star Wars has always been about NAZIS"
>"Star Trek with an all female crew because MEN!"
>Preaching all fucking day, remember the 6 million, let the refugees in, etc etc
That's why
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>>83577639
>"Star Trek with an all female crew because MEN!"
But that's not happening here.

>Ryker
Move along home, /pol/ tourist.
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>>83577705
Hyperbole, and fuck you i never talk about Star Trek anymore because i've seen TNG so many times i've run out of things to say about it. Give me that one letter you faggot.
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>>83577838
>Give me that one letter you faggot.
You also got Soren's quote wrong, tourist. Move along home.
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>>83577913
Hey, moot said crossboarding was cool. And i don't keep up on trek memes just to fit in with you multiracial post-gender globalist fuccbois.
Enjoy your inclusive niggerkino, i will enjoy shitting on them after i pirate them.
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Why won't trekthreaders accept diversity of political opinion?
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I'm getting sick of always having to tell you faggots how redpilled Star Trek (TNG+) was and how deeply it espoused traditionalist conservative viewpoints. You mental midgets are always so desperate to find sjw bogeymen behind every corner.
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member that time Riker stuck his dick in grey and had a weirdo alien son
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>>83579615
How did TNG+ espouse traditionalist conservative viewpoints?
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>>83579761
Go back and read older threads tourist, maybe if you lurk the fuck long enough you'll find out.
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>>83579817
Wow, was the f-word really necessary there?
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"Commander Ryker, what are sex organs?"
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>>83580075
>it's a wrongfaggot lectures the inventor of the Soren meme about the filename because the actual originator of the meme upgraded his phone thread
Always cringeworthy. Funny concept for this particular post, though, as far as the text goes.
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>>83555337
>Old Trek wasn't forced diversity
It most definitely was. Roddenberry developed the crew with specific gender/race in mind for the characters. The only one to my knowledge that avoided this was Worf, because he didn't want a Klingon originally but the producers pressured him until he agreed. The difference between then and now wasn't the studios, it was that "diversity" wasn't on the complaint agenda for either the right or left back in the 80's/90's.
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>>83580644
>Roddenberry developed the crew with specific gender/race in mind for the characters.
But that's literally the opposite of forced diversity you fucking clod. That's "creating characters". How fucking stupid can you possibly be?
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>>83580705
>wants to create a negro character because there should be more negro characters on tv
>wants to create more women characters because there aren't enough lead women on tv
>not forced diversity
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>>83580752
Also I'm not complaining, I'm just pointing out that the issue didn't exist in the past because whiny faggots in the mainstream discussion circles didn't give a shit about it at the time.
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>>83554479
Because the jews are now applying the SJW version of "diversity" to Star Trek; which comes attached to ALL the horrid politics of SJWs.
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>>83580752
You literally don't know what forced diversity is, jesus what a fucking moron. Forced diversity is when you create the characters first and then MINORITIES ARE FORCED INTO THE ROLES REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY FIT TO SATISFY DIVERSITY QUOTAS, jesus fucking christ you couldn't possibly be any more of a drooling retard if you don't understand this. Dumb fucking 12-year old wannabe r/pol shitcunt.
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>>83556956
Is that Cassidy and Bashir's dad?
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>>83580818
Why don't you shut the heck up, bad guy. Hehe just kidding just trying to fit in. I like star trek
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>>83580818
Yes, as a matter of fact.
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>>83554479
Because today, diversity/multiculturalism is codeword for blacks only, women only, and fags only. The rest of us can fuck off. Yes, I'm aware of Kim, Takei, Bashir, etc. The difference is that the diversity of Star Trek was not the humans BUT THE ALIENS. The arguments of prejudice, discrimination, pre-judgement, close-mindedness, superiority complexes was explored through ALIENS. That's what I loved.

The Israeli/Palestinian, Chinese/Tibetan, Britain/IRA, Capitalism/Socialism were all explored through the Bajorans, Cardassians, Romulans, Ferengi, Vulcans, etc.

Affirmative Action and cultural displacement was explored through lone characters like Data, Worf, and Garak. They were alone among themselves and had to constantly prove they could be trusted with the task given to them. Data was discriminated by Captain Picard in Redemption by not making him Captain. He pulled the "Android Card" on him and Picard gave him a shit ship with an even more prejudice human as a first officer who wanted fire himself for refusing to work under an Android. That was straight up discrimination. He even had to go to court and fight for his Civil Rights to choose for himself how to use his own body. My Body, My Choice. They literally created a Prochoice Law for Androids for permission to abort themselves or not. That was great. Georgi was insecure about himself for being blind. He was even called out and discriminated by genetically altered humans and even a Romulan for being blind.

The Imperialist, Fascist, Militant Christendom and Islam was explored through the Klingons, Borg, and Dominion. No need for actual niggertry, faggotry, and stuff.

The Diversity of Star Trek was unique that it was explored through the perspective of Aliens. That's why it was so great.

This new ST focuses on the humans and humans only.
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>>83581226
>This new ST focuses on the humans and humans only.
Doug Jones in full body makeup as an ayylmao, pay more attention.
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>>83564591

That pic has been debunked hundreds of times. You must have seen it at least once. Since you're able to operate a computer you're probably smarter than a chimpanzee. Nobody is that delusional.

So you're trolling. You fuckers know damn well it's all lies, but you regurgitate that shit anyway, just to get a rise out of people. I wouldn't be surprised if you're all antifa.
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>>83581117
wat
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>>83554479
sIsko would get pissed off at his crew for not using a historically accurate holodeck program. He was all like us negroes were slaves in thst time period I'm not hanging out with you guys
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>>83581290
Which is bullshit because it is a new made up species that never existed in the Federation Continuity. This doesn't make things any better. They could have chosen from the many established species instead of this. They are so obsessed with separating themselves from all established ST lore that they are practically inventing a new Scifi show. This is turning into Star Trek In Name Only. They could have gone with the lone unique species like Data and Odo but they did this instead.
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>>83581630
>This doesn't make things any better.
But it does make your post incorrect.
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>>83555392
>delusional
>it's actually happening exactly as he said
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>>83556160
>le altright le pusy le crie le about le literally le everything
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>>83581655
All you did was say I was incorrect but didn't explain how. Thus, this makes my opinion very valid.
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>>83581985
This statement is incorrect:
>This new ST focuses on the humans and humans only.

Here is the reason why:
>Doug Jones in full body makeup as an ayylmao, pay more attention.

We already covered this. Move on with your life.
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>>83581985
>Thus,
lol
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>>83556975
>he thinks any Republican will have even a remote shot at the Presidency in post-2020 after Trump nukes the party into a comical oblivion
Buddy, we are about 4 months in and your party is the most unpopular in recent memory
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>>83555384
Get off the holodeck, Barclay
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>>83582692
I can't wait until 2020 when we will finally ascend to a Star Trek future thanks to the bumbling conservatives who are completely out of touch with reality.
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>>83554479
>Why are people complaining about diversity in Star Trek?

Fans are NOT complaining about diversity in general, but instead when stories are specifically crafted in a politically correct manner without actually addressing the complicated history of why there have been struggles.

If your argument is to simply say that one side hates the other, and that's all there is then you've decided to ignore one side in favor of what is considered politically correct.

Star Trek has always had diversity, but that diversity was at different times when there was true inequality to fight for.

Today's inequality is a matter of certain groups suggesting they were not given a fair chance as if there was an attempt to not allow them to persevere. Today white males are blamed for achievements that succeeded with both positive benefits and bleak repercussions.

Not all white men are evil, and neither did every white male succeed, but many white men were expected to produce results because of tradition, and the religious practices.
This is not the whole story, and to attempt to tell only one side would be dishonest, and untrustworthy.
No one is truly innocent, and all sides must be honest in order to have a genuine understanding.

So if you'd like to have a real discussion about what diversity really should be, I think people should consider all of the ugly skeletons in this discussion, but if you're not willing to be honest then all it is is a waste of time that only serves to upset one side or the other.
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>>83584754
What's with that filename?
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>>83584773
They seem happy, maybe they look victorious.
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>>83584830
I thought we were striving to be completely honest?
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>>83584877
Attention grabbing often times leans towards comedic flare. If you're offended by anything, the problem is you being offended.
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>>83585237
So we can't ever have a real discussion because you need to meme. Got it.
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>>83585237
>Everybody else needs to be completely honest, but not me because I'm so hilarious and funny.
Wew.
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>>83585289
>we can't ever have a real discussion because you need to meme

That sounds like an excuse anon.
I can laugh at myself, everything, and everyone. Why can't you?
Holding a grudge, uptight? Why? Beliefs built on grudges passed on that you can't let go?
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>>83584059
I can't tell which part of this is ironic.
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>>83585316
I honestly don't care either way anymore, and remain unaffected either way.
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>>83585406
I think the main issue is that I love and respect my parents and family.
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>>83585588
Another hilarious prank, my friend. Truly you have achieved the height of comedy.
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>>83585615
Doubtful. Shit of the past, blame game, same old shit another day. Meanwhile nothing changes but more blame, and no gain.
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>T-there are white guys!
>T-there's the Captain you don't see
>And the FAGGOT
>And there's even an ugly disgusting alien
>W-why aren't you liking it, racists?
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>>83554674


>>83555337
This is the real answer.
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>>83585838
>>And there's even an ugly disgusting alien
>this is bad somehow
Move along home, HFY tourist.
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>>83585838
>thinking normal people in the world have actual problems with blacks or gays in Star Trek
Maybe it's you? Maybe you are a shitty person?
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>>83585913
>>83585914
No, tumblr, remember how the whole point of diversity on TV was so that people could identify with the characters? I doubt it, your negrolove has completely taken over your mind and diversity for diversity's sake is your only goal.
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Old Star Trek does Diversity right

Yes it has people of all kind of color as character but doesnt tells it to you every fucking minute, The show has great stories and shit.

I can already feel new Star Trek will be nothing like that just shoehorning DIVERSITY into your face nonstop with every episode
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>>83585957
So yeah, a shitty person then? Got it.
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>>83585986
>I can already feel new Star Trek will be nothing like that just shoehorning DIVERSITY into your face nonstop with every episode
Your camp has been wrong about every piece of medium you bitch and moan about for the past couple of years. Just stop already. You just keep alienating yourself.
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>>83577639
Reminder that the last jj trek had a white male lead and a nigger villain, you are literally retarded
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>>83585957
Imagine someone so desperate to fit in with the Cool Kids in /pol/ that they barge into a Trek thread and insist that having an alien main character is actually a negative.

Imagine.
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>>83586002
So you're saying people who wanted more diversity on TV because they weren't being represented are shitty people? (i.e. all the non-whites in western countries)?
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>>83586055
I have no clue how you even came to that conclusion you fucking illiterate.
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>>83586029

>wrong about every piece of medium you bitch and moan about
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>>83586099
Yeah, good example. You were wrong about that one too. Movie wasn't even that bad. It was passable.
>Get Out
>Dear White People
>Ghostbusters
>Wonder Woman
>Mad Max Fury Road
>Spiderman Homecoming
>Hidden Figures
You've sperged your britches off every time and every time you've looked retarded. You retards even fell for faked news articles a few weeks ago on Star Trek Discovery. Remember that? Remember the fake quote that caused a spergout?
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>>83586029
>There aren't more non-whites in movies and TV now than there were before
Hahaha is this nigga serious?

>>83586079
>you fucking illiterate
I love it when morons say this, because the whole conversation is right there, everyone else can see what I've said and that you're the retard.

Mind you, liberals have been completely brainwashed in the last few years so I suppose it's possible that as a tumblr tourist you really don't see your own hypocrisy.
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>>83586141
>>Get Out
>>Dear White People
>>Ghostbusters
This is now 8/10 trolling
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>>83586184
That anon is destroying the alt right crybaby itt, actually. It's entertaining as fuck.
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>>83586151
>There aren't more non-whites in movies and TV now than there were before
Who cares? And normal people don't have a fucking problem with it.
>because the whole conversation is right there, everyone else can see what I've said
Which makes this all the more ironic.
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>>83586141
>You were wrong about that one too. Movie wasn't even that bad. It was passable.

I was going to respond to each movie, but there's really no point after that.
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>>83586201
I can only pray this is some samefaging
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>>83586213
>The Jews told me white people want more diversity!
>The Jews told me white people are now happy having been removed from media!
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>>83586184
>GET OUT IS ANTI-WHITE PROPAGANDA!
Then the movie comes out.
>DEAR WHITE PEOPLE IS BLM ANTI WHITE HATRED!
then the movie comes out.
>GHOSTBUSTERS IS GOING TO BE THE WORST THING EVER REEEE WOMAN IN MUH 80s FLICK? THIS MUST BE FORCED DIVERRRSITTEEE
then the movie comes out.

How are you not exhausted with all this outrage over nothing?
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>>83586151
>muh liberal boogeywoogies why don't they hate niggers and spics like me? The fucking nerve!
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>>83586273
>>The Jews told me white people are now happy having been removed from media!
If you think this is a rational thought, you are pretty far gone.
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>>83586225
>I was going to respond to each movie, but there's really no point after that.
Probably because you'd look foolish, as usual. We know how this goes. I'm just waiting for you to call me a cuck and storm off. The usual play by play.
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>>83586283
>Then the movie comes out.
It still is anti-white propaganda, what does being released change that?
>then the movie comes out.
It still is anti-white propaganda, what does being released change that?
>then the movie comes out.
It still is anti-male propaganda, what does being released change that?

Prove you're not a troll because you usually have to go to tumblr to see this level of cognitive dissonance.
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>>83586329
That's what you said though >>83586213
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>>83586283
Get Out was anti liberal propaganda. Still bad though. https://youtu.be/R2t4ZjxCsB4

Dear White People's trailer was intentionally deceptive. Was anti Sjw

Ghostbuster was objectively shit and didn't even break a profit. Whew, I would think you're a troll but I can smell the whiff of desperate beta male feminist.
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>>83586368
Literally none of those movies were even remotely anti-white, you big /pol/ baby.
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>>83586363
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>>83586427
>I can't identify, and love, anti-white propaganda movies
This does not surprise me at all
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>>83586396
>That's what you said though
No it isn't.
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>>83586419
>Get Out was anti liberal propaganda.
No it wasn't.
>here's a 40 minute youtube documentary
Oh Christ, kill yourself already you triggered fuck.
>Dear White People's trailer was intentionally deceptive
Maybe if you can't get any measure of irony and have no history with watching the show, sure.
>Ghostbuster was objectively shit and didn't even break a profit
It has a competent score on nearly every aggregate site and this isn't the argument at hand.
>I would think you're a troll but I can smell the whiff of desperate beta male feminist.
Ah, and there we are with the buzzwords. That's the signal that the "discussion" is almost over.
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>>83586506
Yes it was. Even Peele talked about it.
>Never seen E;R
kek
Talking about the DWP movie not the show. Movie came out first, wtf you talking bout newfag?
>virtue signalling critics liked ghostbuster so it must be good, who cares that the audiences hated it and it loss money
>buzzwords
I would tell you to learn from the Laci Chris Ray Gun situation, but you're probably too out of the know.
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>>83586679
Wow, you're completely immersed in e-celebs. Useless knowledge. Sad!
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>>83586679
Yes it was. Even Peele talked about it.
Literally not what he said in the slightest. Funny how even your autist youtuber you "cited", quotes Peele correctly, more than you do.
>Never seen E;R
I have, he's autistic and a /tv/ shitpost personified into a brainlet. You have to be legitimately underage to agree with him.
>Movie came out first, wtf you talking bout newfag?
Fine, the film came out first and that is what I was referring to. Happy?
>virtue signalling critics liked ghostbuster so it must be good
I don't think you know what virtue signalling means.
>who cares that the audiences hated it and it loss money
It was more of a mixed bag. But whether people hated it or not, doesn't prove your memes correct that it was some propaganda attempt or whatever other autistic bullshit you probably believe.
>buzzwords
kettle, meet pot.
>I would tell you to learn from the Laci Chris Ray Gun situation, but you're probably too out of the know.
Oh just fuck off already, are you done? Did you get it out of your system?

We will be right back to this after Star Trek Discovery comes out and none of your predictions are correct, again. As usual. Then you will find something else with a woman, or a black, or an asian in it...and screech for a few weeks that this is the end of the white race.

Honestly, I just want you to kill yourself so we can be done with these shitposts and actually talk about films without throwing up about the illuminati or Jews or how you dislike minorities in science fiction.

Leave with some grace, if you have it.
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