who would win?

Israel is America's greatest ally though, why would they fight?

Wonder Woman. But if there is time for preparation, then Batman.

>>83543328
that costume is so fucking stupid. I still can't believe someone thought that was a good idea

>>83543328
Left is superman level, right is Batman level

>>83543328
Whoever the writer of the story wants to win, just as any other super hero duel.

>>83543419
Yeah I know. It shows how much of a stick she is, with no bust and no ass. Look at those fucking arms.

>>83543368
Ask the sailors that were on The USS Liberty when Israel "accidentally" attacked it.

>>83543328
If she spreads her legs and gets pregnant, she's set for life. So she wins just like in real life.

>>83543328
Wonder Woman could solo the entire cast of Civil War

>>83543328
The one that can solo Superman...heck even Batman would btfo Cap.

>>83543573
>Wonder Woman beating Vision or Scarlet Witch

Nah

>>83543503
LOL he obviously meant captain america dipshit

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>>83543328
>who would win?

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>>83543599
>they dont know that wonder woman is literally a GOD

>>83543679

So is Thor, and Vision essentially is, too.

>>83543679
Wanda can mind controll gods.

>>83543599
She is literally a god so I imagine she is totally immune to telekinesis since Ares was unable to use it on her.
If all it takes is hitting Scarlet Witch to stop her from mind controlling you, if fucking Hawkeye can do it you bet your ass Wonder Woman could.
Vision isnt shit. He has literally no worthy feats from the movies that would lead anyone to believe he is as powerful as he is in the comics. If were talking on a physical level, if Wonder Woman can take punches from Doomsday and the literal GOD OF FUCKING WAR she can certainly take one from a hunk of metal.
Even if she couldnt somehow kill all of them just give her even one of the other justice league members from the DCEU, even Batman, and they would win. Movie Avengers are weak as fuck.
A fairer matchup would be the cast of Civil War vs Suicide Squad.

>>83543702
nah there is no real magic in the MCU outside of Dr. Strange.
Thor is just an alien

>>83543714
>if fucking Hawkeye can do it
Thor wasn't able to resist.

>>83543736
And Strange is just a human
Both who happen to use magic

>>83543736
You're wrong.

>>83543328
Chris Evans would let Wonder Woman beat the shit out of him so he wouldn't get called a misogynist.

>>83543768
Holy shit are you retarded?
They fucking spell it out in both Thor movies that Asgard is not this magic realm of gods. Just another dimension with advanced tech.
>>83543755
Because Thor was cought off Guard
Were talking about a full on fight here so she would be able to see it coming. Literally all Hawkeye did was punch her in the head and give her a tiny shock. Easy peasy for wonder woman.

>>83543328
I would, you fag.

>>83543858
and since she literally never did it again outside that scene even though it would have been super helpful during the Civil War fight, i assume that means its extremely difficult to pull off in open combat.

>>83543768

Odinliterally says "We are not Gods."

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>>83543823
LOL, sad but true

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So I have a question. I didn't really know much about WW going into this, except the basics like her lasso, sword and shield, and she blocks bullets with her bracers.

But what's with the "Kozah's Needle" like effects the bracers have? I didn't know they could do that? Is that canon?

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>>83543961
go fuck yourself nerd

>>83543961
>Kozah's Needle

???

>>83543858
>Were talking about a full on fight here
So Wanda sends the kike into Earth core

>>83544004
>>83544022
It can build charge and redirect it to wherever the wielder wants it to go. Kind of like what WW did when she first used the bracers, and at the end.

>>83543628
wooosh

>>83544004
>not reading the 30 book Legend of Drizzt story required to understand that reference

>>83544038
No reason to believe control of that kind would affect Wonder Woman since the very powerful (and once again LITERAL GOD OF WAR) Ares could not use his telekinesis on her.
Even if she could, her bracelets seem to repel any force or attack against her physical or otherwise since it broke Ares grip and absorbed his lightning, as well as created a shield around her that none of Ares attacks could penetrate.

AND Wanda has never been able to to pull a move like that off in a fight where the person she is targeting is aware of her presence. She never pulls off a move like that unless they dont see her coming in any capacity.

On top of all that, the only way Wanda could sneak up on Wonder Woman is if the rest of the Avengers could distract her for long enough and they most certainly could not.
Iron Man and War Machine are out almost instantly since Cap punches stun them, meaning one punch from Wondy would do significant if not critical damage to their suits.
Winter Soldier is out instantly since he's only about as strong as Cap but doesnt have a plot device shield like he does. Falcon is just a dude so he stands no chance at all. Panther has a fancy suit but if Cap or Bucky can knock him around, and since he can be stunned by fucking Black Widow, its totally fair to assume he would be just as worthless as Falcon. Hawkeye and Black Widow are practically non factors.
As for the people who would not be instantly or very quickly taken out before they could even regroup... Cap could stand against her for at least a little bit before being overwhelmed, and Wanda likely would be unable to mount any serious mind control or telekinetic attack on her so she wouldnt last long either.
This leaves Spidey, Ant Man, and Vision.
Toe to toe in a strength contest Spidey and Ant Man are overmatched but they are extremely hard to hit even for Wonder Woman so she would have to resort to her extremely powerful lightning blasts and wrist thing powers that have wide ares of affect.

God

>>83544346
So now with Just Vision, yeah he has this extremely powerful infinity stone but he never really uses it to do anything other than fire a blast which couldnt even destroy Ultron on its own. So wondys wrists could easily tank it or her lightning could at least match it.

Throw Thor and Hulk into the mix and yes this would be a very different story but then it would only be fair to throw Superman or the flash in there and then it would just be a joke.

If were talking about comics obviously it would go very differently but were talking about the movies and thanks to Snyders fanboyism he has made the DCEU heroes look significantly tougher and FAR more powerful than their MCU counterparts.

Hell, the X men universe is shown to be more powerful in every way as well.
X men Apocalypse's (even though it was a shit move) version of Magneto could solo the Civil War cast.

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>>83543328
I cant imagine these two together at all irla but I like this image

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Aren't DC's physical strength feats in general much more impressive (or retarded) than Marvel's?

>>83543328

Wonder Woman

>>83545143
Goku could do that alone

>>83543599

MCU Scarlet witch is nowhere near the comic version. Shes to slow to hit Wonder Woman with her energy blasts since that's apparently her only power now.

>>83545218
that doesn't make it any less retarded

>>83543368
Really makes you think..

>>83545218

No he couldn't

>>83545143
>adult comics

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>>83545143
>ywn see Martian Manhunter on the big screen

Ree

>>83543709
Lasso of truth defends against mind control.

>>83543328
Do bullets kill wonder woman? Is that why she only blocks them?

>>83543328
she can fucking fly and apparently become Jesus. so my guess would be Rocket Raccoon.

>>83543328
Why is that even a question? Wondy would wipe the floor with Cap.

>>83545599
no shit, did you not watch the movie?
most of her sisters were killed by bullets

>>83545744
Thats stupid

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Daily reminder

Perseus > Wonder Womyn

>>83544346

>Toe to toe in a strength contest Spidey and Ant Man are overmatched but they are extremely hard to hit even for Wonder Woman so she would have to resort to her extremely powerful lightning blasts and wrist thing powers that have wide ares of affect.

I dunno, Ant Man can grow to large enough to lift a passanger plane.

>>83545781

Wonder Woman is a god. The Amazons aren't

>>83545907
I thought Wonder Woman was just like queen of the amazons or something.
I don't see how she is anything like a god at all, at least the other ones actually create shit in the universe.

>>83545907
so why does she block the bullets then? wouldnt they just shatter against her body?

>>83545956
>I don't see how she is anything like a god at all, at least the other ones actually create shit in the universe.

Her father, Zues made her to kill Gods. She's a demi-god

>>83546059
She did in the cartoon too, it's her thing.

>>83545599
>>83545744

Bullets can't kill her. She caught one in her hand in the alley in London.

>>83546059

She gets more powerful as the movie progresses. Never mind that she has no way of knowing bullets wont hurt her so would deflect them anyway. I doubt she took /k/'s advice and shot herself with small caliber bullets to build up a resistance

>>83543858
So you use the source material when it fits within your argument, but Thor has to be constricted to the movie universe? Ok. The movieverse thor can't even beat Iron Man. Batman would beat the entire MCU cast.

>>83546276
no she didnt, chris pine did, holy shit its literally in the movie trailer

>>83546982

It came off her bracelets and landed in his hand

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>>83543328
>the lack of colour on the left

>>83547072

Evans looks like a fucking dweeb in that suit. He's clearly embarrassed to wear that helmet

>>83543328
Skill: Cap
Speed: Wonder Woman
Strength: Wonder Woman
Durability: Wonder Woman
Gimmicks: Cap

Shield and perfect geometric precision > Bracelets

It's not a straight-forward fight. He could beat her but he's probably not going to.

>>83547285
>Skill: Cap

Debatable. Wonder Woman was trained from a child. While Cap had basic training and juiced

>>83547285
>skill: cap
stopped reading there

come on, captain america didnt recieve combat training since he was a kid like wonder woman did. hes just a beta on super steroids

>>83547285
>beta male on roids beats literal goddess
Nah.

>>83547369
>beta male on roids

I bet if Cap was standing in front of you, you'd be jizzing your pants.

>>83547345
He's one of the top martial artists in Marvel. Guys like Batroc who's entire gimmick is martial arts can NOT fuck with him.

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>>83547408
>projecting your faggotry

>>83547285
>He could beat her

No he couldn't. His Death Frisbee isn't an instant win and without it he has nothing. If he punched Wonder Woman the only thing that would happen is that he would shatter his hand into a million pieces

>>83547428
martial arts means shit when youre a human fighting against a god

>>83547428
>He's one of the top martial artists in Marvel

And Wonder Woman is one of the top warriors from DC who is able to fight planet crackers hand to hand. But I thought we were just talking about the movies. Wonder woman took more from Ares and Doomsday than anything Cap has been shown to dish out.

>>83547449
Cap has fought Gods before and won.

>>83547494
Only because of her physical stats. She isn't as skilled as Cap. This guy makes Gamora look like a child.

>>83547564
>She isn't as skilled as Cap. This

Shes been trained from early childhood. You can keep saying she isn't as skilled all you like but it doesn't make it true. I'm sorry anon. Your boy would get stomped

>>83547446
It's not faggotry. You call him a beta male but you'd probably be fanboying just like Ant-Man.

>>83547636
I'd sooner fanboy for Ant-Man than Cap, he's bland as shit.

>>83547327
>Debatable. Wonder Woman was trained from a child.
Yeah by degenerate feminists, who know no shit about war.

>>83547707

And everything special about Cap came out of a bottle

>>83547285
Skill: Cap

Lol

Also did you forget that WW uses her geometric precision to block bullets with her bracers or ricochet them elsewhere? They're just as good as Cap's shield and she doesn't even have to hold them, she also has a sword and shield she can use.

>>83547707
>who know no shit about war

They're literally trained to fight wars, some of them even helped defeat the fucking God of War

>>83543858
>Implying Zeus, Ares, Yahweh, Lucifer Ra, Kek, etc aren't just beings with advanced tech

>>83547794
meh, she doesnt really even need the sword and shield.

why are her bracers stronger than the "holiest artifact weapons" designer to a god? yet ares melted her sword just by touching it? shouldnt her bracers be a holy relic item too? they never explain where they came from and why theyre so powerful...

>>83547829
And yet she doesn't know what a watch is. Cap would beat the shit out of this inbred shit-skinned tranny.

>>83547448
>would shatter his hand into a million pieces
she's not superman

>>83547876
>And yet she doesn't know what a watch is
Good thing the most technologically advanced thing Captain owns is a fucking shield, I think they had those in ancient Greece.

>>83543328
Random 19 year old Imperial cadet at the controls of the Death Star with the exhaust port covered.

>>83547896

She took punches from Doomsday. Captain America cant hurt her. Why are you in such denial?

>>83547876
You don't need to know about tech like that to beat the shit out of someone.

She blocked bullets and survived explosions just fine in the movie, and she's alive in modern times anyway and up to date with the world.

>>83547901
Vibranium > Adamantium > any other metal

He would break her face and make it look better.

>>83547763
>And everything special about Cap came out of a bottle
He still walked through WW2.
>>83547829
>They're literally trained to fight wars
In leather bikini with bronze spears while living in utopia

>>83547874
The sword wasn't really that important, it was her that was.

>>83547987
>the absolute state of Marvelfags
WW would obliterate Cap without even breaking a sweat.

>>83547987

They were forged by hephaestus. Your meme Marvel metal might not measure up

>>83547960
>She blocked bullets and survived explosions just fine in the movie,
And was wounded by bullets on the beach

>>83547927
We dont know how hard doomsday hits. It could be equivalent to caps punches or shield throws.

Superman is literally has impenetrable skin wondy doesn't

>>83547896
superman is an alien, wonderwoman is a god, she can beat superman if she wanted

>>83547896
She has literally fought Superman on multiple occasions in comics and been fine.

If Cap punched her it wouldn't do shit, she's been slapped into/through concrete and been fine, her body is incredibly durable to blunt force.

>>83547991
>He still walked through WW2.

After super roids.

>>83543328

Red Skull with the Infinity Gauntlet > Jew

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>>83548032
>We dont know how hard doomsday hits. It could be equivalent to caps punches or shield throws.

Oh come on now. I refuse to believe you are this dumb

>>83548029
Uru can't measure up to Vibranium and I hope you're not enough of a cuck to say Amazonian metal is superior to Uru.

>>83548030
That's why she blocks them with her bracers and shield.

And even when she gets wounded she's quite resilient and heals incredibly quickly.

>>83548040
stop being retarded
>>83548048
she's still susceptible to getting choked out

>>83548070
His punches are definitely not as hard but Vibranium is plot device hard. It can damage anything.

>>83548070
im just saying, we dont have anything to gauge doomsdays strength other than that he was giving supes a run for his money

>>83548077
>Hephaestus
>Amazonian
American education, everyone.

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>>83548078
>And even when she gets wounded she's quite resilient and heals incredibly quickly.
And what if she will be hitted by bigger bullet? In head

>>83548032
>Doomsday punches could be equivalent to Caps punches

Doomsday leveled buildings and straight up killed Superman. Cap's not that strong and you know it.

>>83547987
Vibranium isn't better than adamantium. Captain's shield is so strong because it's a mix between the two.

>>83543328
Goodguys fighting each other.

Fuck this meme, and everyone in this thread.

>>83548106

It didn't stop Ultron and Iron Man was able to get back up after being smacked with it repeatedly. Doomsday hit's just as hard if not harder than Superman.

>>83548142
Vibranium is like Adamantium except that it has the added benefit of nullifying all impact (when it's written correctly). Either way, both are way harder than anything else, by definition.

WW alone can beat the whole Avengers
I'm pretty sure every JL member except Cyborg can sole the Avengers
Supes is Supes
Bats has prep time
Flash has speedforce bullshit
Aquaman controls 75% of the Earth and is as strong as WW
Hal can win if hamburgers are on the line

>>83548129
She won't be, she'll block it. She always does.

Same reason why Cap barely ever gets shot.

>>83548152
Iron Man lost that fight and Ultron > Wonder Woman so

flying bricks like wonder woman, and peak humans like cap are at the absolute bottom of the list of power tiers

the first speedster, intelligence character, magic user, reality warper, telepath, abstract, or multidimensional entity that comes along would eat both of them

that's true even if you consider WW a true 'god' with all the awareness and power that implies

>>83548131
yeah ok, doomsday was probably too high a level too compare but we haven't seen the upper levels of caps strength, he's always shown to hold back

>>83548171
>I'm new to capeshit

The Avengers and the JL are evenly matched.

>>83548110
That should be enough.

Is Superman stronger than Cap? Absolutely

Is Doomsday as strong/stronger than Superman? Fucking looked like it

Therefore Doomsday>Cap

>>83548219

he lost the fight but it didn't instantly drop him
. There's literally nothing stopping Wonder woman from just grabbing Caps shield and taking it out of his hands. He's to weak to stop her

>>83548224
>speedster

WW has beaten Zoom. Cap has beaten Quicksilver.

Speedsters are bottom tier.

>>83548258
>Therefore Doomsday>Cap

I can't even believe this needs to be said

reminder that spider man could kill captain america if he wanted to.

he disarmed caps shield with his web, he could just incapacitate cap with his webs and walk up to him and break his neck

>>83548216
>she'll block it.
Except her bracers are too tiny to block whole cumulative shell

>>83548249
>The Avengers and the JL are evenly matched.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Are Marlels this delusional?
Even the Titans can beat the Avengers

>>83548249
Superman, WW and The Flash could take out virtually all the Avengers themselves, you're joking.

The only problem would be Hulk and even then Superman could probably throw him into space or something

>>83548261
Nobody said it would instantly drop her either. She's strong but a couple dozen hits from his shield will eventually drop her.

>>83543328
I think Cap being the Steve that landed on Themyscria would have made for an interesting story.

>>83548249
>The Avengers and the JL are evenly matched
You can't be for real.

>>83548273

Quicksilver is the Diet Coke of Speedsters

>>83548273
>it happened once, so feats mean nothing

you don't even understand how these things are resolved

its a shill thread about nerdy topics, you have to defer to nerdy ways of resolving things, speedsters are in the top 3 in terms of absolute power or potential power

>>83548300
>Spiderman

Oh you mean that guy who got manhandled by Cap. The guy who had to cry to Aunt May about that bully from Brooklyn?

>>83548311

Cap wouldn't get in a couple of hits though. He's far to slow. Wonder Woman isn't just going to let him hit her

>>83548304
You mean like a canon of some sort? Her bracers can't block that but her shield could. Or more likely, she won't put herself in a vulnerable position to that.

In the movie she throws the tanks and blocks the shells before they can do anything to her.

>>83548322
How are fight outcomes resolved? By seeing who actually won the fight. How does it get any simpler than that?

>>83548339
spidey held back

>>83548376
Cap did too. This isn't just MCU bs. Cap wins against Spidey EVERY SINGLE TIME in the comics. Even in the Civil War comic storyline where Spidey had Stark tech.

>>83548361

Oh yeah. Wonder Woman casually lifts a tank and Cap had to use all his strength to hold onto that helicopter. Cap would totally beat her though. This isn't a fucking retarded match up at all.

>>83548258
doomsday was a bad example. all im saying is that we dont know how hard caps hits and it could be hard enough to hurt wondy

>>83548408
remember when cap and wolverine were considered to be equal in power?

but then the hairy midget demographic had to be appeased

>>83543328
>Whedon Captain America
Will he have something equally bad for Batgirl, or has he learned his lesson?

>>83548361
>You mean like a canon of some sort?
nah, just situation, one bracer isn't enough to block shell, so she use both of them, shell penetrating and cumulative jet sneaking betwee her hands right into the nose (and face, after few hours).
>In the movie she throws the tanks and blocks the shells before they can do anything to her.
Because there were no cumulative shells durring WW1

>>83548449
Wolverine can kill guys like Thor and the Hulk if necessary. People need to stop with this whole "if he can't lift a tank, he's weak" nonsense.

>>83548445

>and it could be hard enough to hurt wondy

But it's not , anon. Just think about it. Doomsday is as strong as Superman, it wasn't holding back and it punched Wonder Woman multiple times and she just kept coming back.

Ask yourself do you think Captain America could take the Hulk in a fist fight? Because that's the level we're at if not higher

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>>83543328
I seriously cannot believe this is being argued.

In the comics, Cap has fought Batman before and they proved to be an even match for each other physically. They couldn't beat each other.

WW is significantly stronger than Batman in almost every way, and the only reason Batman can defeat her is using his smarts and technology. Without that he'd be smashed into red mush.

Cap doesn't have the intelligence or tech of Batman, nor would he even know WW enough to find her weaknesses like Batman does. Therefore, WW is stronger than Cap and would destroy him.

>>83548507
>do you think Captain America could take the Hulk in a fist fight

Cap and Spiderman once teamed up to knock the Hulk out.

>>83548494

Wolverine gets his ass handed to him everytime he tries to fight Hulk

>>83543328
Wonder Woman has always been depicted as super strong, Captain America is a bit weaker than Spider-Man.

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>>83543368
Oh boy, you've got some catching up to do...

>>83548521

I thought we were talking movies here. This is /tv/ not /co/

>>83548547
The movies are based on the comics, kid.

>>83548508

It's one dude who is super into Cap

>>83548562

>Kid

I'm done with this retardation

>>83548508
That comic sounds retarded.

Batman is trained to peak human physical ability. Captain America is super-roided up beyond that. Cap should be able to beat Batman in a straight up fist fight.

Batman would probably beat him through other means, though (or correctly talk him down like in those last few panels)

>>83548588
>Captain America is super-roided up beyond that

Cap is supposed to be peak human. Anything beyond that and he's being written wrong

>>83544346
Couldn't ironman call in his hulkbuster suit or have ai control his other suits to help the civil war avengers. heck couldn't he just use thev suits to grab wonder woman and fly her to the moon? Vision probably could help with that.

>>83548411
He was curling a helicopter with one hand. That's like curling 2 tons.

She was lifting a tank, around 60 tons, over her head.

If you know how lifting works, you know Cap could probably lift like 20 tons over his head. It's not that big of a difference.

>>83548648

Did you miss the part where Wonder Woman did it with ease and how Cap was struggling?

>>83548648
Depends on how they're deciding to handle how powerful she is in the movie versions. At a glance, it looks like they're going to go pretty far out there.

She's supposed to be able to stand toe-to-toe with Superman. In one of the arcs, Batman's contingency plan for if Superman ever went rogue (since he had a plan for if ANY member of the JL went rogue) was Wonder Woman. It's why he was so opposed to any possibility of Supes and her ever having any kid of romantic interest in the other.

>>83548821
>Batman's contingency plan for if Superman ever went rogue (since he had a plan for if ANY member of the JL went rogue) was Wonder Woman

Wrong way round. Batman is armed to the teeth with shit to fight Superman. He had nothing for Wonder Woman except for the hope Superman could take her down

>>83548871
Probably right. My memory is shit.
That also makes way more sense.

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>>83548871
yet in the comics batman singlehandedly took down every justice league hero...

Fuck off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4_zFYnnn2Y

>>83548910
I think you'll find that most comic book readers would agree that sometimes the comics can get downright retarded for some arcs

>>83548910

You never actually read that comic did you?

>>83548871
In one of the animated movies I'm pretty sure his plan for her was using Scarecrow's fear gas to trick her into fighting herself or something, cause he knew one of her big weaknesses was that she would never give up in a fight and would thus be fighting herself forever.

What are their power levels?
If Superman is a 10, and the strongest mortal is a 1.5, then Batman is a .75, Captain America is like a 2 or 3 and Wonder Woman is a 5.

>>83543679
Any Avenger with a cock could dominate ww like the bitch she is.

>>83547829
>>83547829
>>83547829
She's a woman anon, forget it, you lost the argument

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>>83543328
>implying they wouldn't fight together
>implying they wouldn't use each other shields

>>83545436
Would you want to see him in the DCEU?
>Martian Manslaughter