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BvS>MoS>WW>power gap>SS
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>>83540023
How could you put Oscar Winning Suicide Squad at the bottom
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>>83540023

BvS extended cut> Mos > WW > BvS >Dog shit > SS
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>>83540023
>BvS>MoS>WW>power gap>SS

Objectively correct.
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>>83540067
>Costume award
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>>83540135
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BvS > MoS > SS > WW
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WW>MoS>BvS>SS
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>>83540302
SS is shit
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>>83540425
tits or GTFO
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>>83540278
it is though, in a genre in which the main appeal is literally how it looks of course it's a valid Oscar.

Marvelshits are so jelly all the time
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I tasted my own fart today
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>>83540426
You know you want more Captain Boomerang
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>>83540023
If that's BvS UE, then this ranking is correct, yes.
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>>83540492
Jai Courtney is evil
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>>83540278
dont worry, you will get the oscar for best quip next year
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>>83540762
SS is the first flick I've seen him give a good performance. I fear we'll never see his character again.
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>>83540762
He's a prank that Australia was playing on America.

It's grown beyond our control. We're sorry, but also still laughing.
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>>83540023
>>83540069
pretty much
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MoS > BvS/WW > SS Bohemian Rhapsody trailer > SS
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>>83540881

He has always a good supporting actor but can't carry as a lead, same with the dude from Avatar
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MoS> WW> BvS (extended cut)>a pile of fresh steaming trash >ACADEMY AWARD WINNING SS.
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Man of Steel ever so slightly better than Batman v Superman. Suicide Squad ever so slightly better than Wonder Woman. I don't care who you are the first 45 minutes of Suicide Squad is actual capekino then it takes the poo
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>>83540302
Product placement is getting out of hand these days.
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will liberals find offense in the black character only having half a face worth of melanin?
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>>83542035
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>>83542058
damn, I showed this to my wife and it made her wet teehee
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>>83542066
you don't have a wife and never will
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>check new JL trailer
>two quips
It will be shit like SS.
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>>83540023
Exactly right OP.

I'm wondering what DCbros thought of WW. I liked it but only as much as the best marvel movie. Not in the same way I love BvS
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>>83542234

>whedon doing reshoots
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>>83542245

I liked it but not as much as man of kino and bvs, also WW has the weakest original sound track
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>>83542066
tell your wife she's not brave men are brave
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>>83542245
As a DChad, I agree.
The masterful imagery of Snyder that made MoS and BvS such classics was not found here. Plus, the anti-Christian (Diana, the feminist god, decapitates a church; "when people get married they go before a judge"), anti-German (muh WWI Germans were the same as Nazis because we couldn't do WWII because that'd be too similar to Captain America and muricans are stoopid), anti-men ("we only need men for reproduction, not pleasure"), and general dated fish-out-of-water comedy was just a little too on the nose, if you know what I mean.
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>>83542275
I honestly can't even remember any of the score. Whatever, it was good for a crowd pleaser. Now let's just hope whedon doesn't fuck up JL
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>>83542328
The only theme is that annoying guitar lick from BvS
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>>83542245

It was a female hero movie that wasn't shit. It's a huge achievement
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>>83540023
wrong
>BvS Ultimate Edition>WW>MoS>BvS>SS
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>>83540067
SS was a mess. Snyder makes movies while trying to do something more than a movie. Suicide Squad tries to be a Marvel flick, and that's the worst movie can do.
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>>83540023
MOS>>Shit>Everything else
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>>83542408
>posting gifs when there are webms out the wazoo
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>>83540023
i cant argue with that. WW was amazing though
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Give it to me straight boys, will Whedon cuck up JL?
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>>83542472

>flash wont make 2018

wonder if they'll really rush out gotham sirens to keep the 2 movies a year a thing
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>>83542549
What if Whedon changes this scene to Wonder Woman saving herself
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>>83542275
>>83542325
I worry the suits at WB will futz around too much and JL will have the same problems. WW was good, but it was nowhere near MoS, and especially not BvS.
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>>83542603

gal sitting like is CUTE
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>>83542490
Gal Gadot was actually amazing though. (Not the movie itself, but whatever.)
She's fucking gorgeous bros, and Patty Jenkins knows how to light her. Her features are fucking pre-Raphaelite, she's an irl goddess
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>>83542679
does she get lightning powers or what? i ain't watching the WW flick in theaters.
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>>83542454
b-but ww is a marvel movie desu
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>>83542701
They never fully explain what her "powers" are...
She can super-jump like the Hulk, she has super-strength, she has the lasso, sword, and shield, she can deflect bullets with her wrists, and she can channel energy back at Ares
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>>83542058

Do not like that Cyborg look. He looks like one of the Bayformers, there's so many exposed, tiny, moving metal parts that he ends up looking like a mess. Hopefully he gets cleaned up at some point.
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>>83541996
where is this from?
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>>83540278
Marvelkeks like to rag on the award being just a make-up oscar, but the fact that they're several movies in and unable to cake some colors on their actors' faces good enough for academy recognition says a lot.

You people only say the award's invalid because you don't have it.
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>>83542828
Also in BvS she's going up against Doomsday no problem, but the Amazons can be killed by a single bullet.
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>>83542835

one of the teasers from the lead up to the justice league trailer
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>>83542835
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HybRawyTSXY
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>>83542245
i hated it, no deep meanings, 40 mins of quips, shit cgi, autistic diana. A perfect marvel movie
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>>83542875

She's not an Amazon. She's a magical golem-baby made from clay and given life by Zeus with the explicit purpose of killing Gods. Her powers are not going to be reflective of the other schmucks on the island.
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>>83542875

She isn't a regular amazon anon. She's a demi-god.
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>>83542875
literally retarded

are you able to comprehend english or did you miss the entire speech st the end on how diana is the daughter of zeus and therefore a god unlike the rest of the amazons
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>people who find MoS and BvS good think SS was bad

I've never watched SS. Is it the worst movie ever made?
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>>83542950

It's the worst of the DCEU movies for sure. It's very pretty though. There are a few scenes worth watching, and I'd probably say it's worth the time if you're into the whole movie-universe deal, but it's by no means a good movie.
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>>83542950
It has the messiness of BvS theatrical without the ambition and emotional depth.
I watched it again last night and there's a few things that could have been great, but they were lost in an absolute dog's breakfast of bad decisions.
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>MoS
>see the impact of being a hero and hard decisions heroes must make, all within a mythical framework
>BvS
>see a commentary on America's view of religion in a post-9/11 world and the true cost of playing hero
>WW
>see a Jewish woman kill a white German man by crushing an entire church he's hiding in and gets applauded before her extramarital tryst
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>>83542950
At lot of people like it better than Wonder Woman
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>>83543027

Like who?
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>>83540023
Definitely agree with this ranking.
WW was more traditional than the others, but without being too crowdpleasing and light which I was worried it might be. What really impressed me was that Steve's death was allowed to hit hard.
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>>83543052
People who enjoy good visuals and leading actresses who can act (fuck gal gadot)
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>>83543052
like me. i enjoyed this on theater but WW was unwatchable + the crowd was full of plebs that laughed at every fucking quip when nothing was funny
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>>83543026
>BvS
>see a commentary on America's view of religion in a post-9/11 world and the true cost of playing hero

Is this really how DCfags see the world?
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>>83542763
No it's not.
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>>83543097
Yeah, when Steve Rogers sacrificed himself to destroy the plane full of experimental weapons of mass destruction it really made me tear up
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>>83543100
fucking gal, man. always uses the same fucking face for everything
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>>83542908
>She's a magical golem-baby made from clay and given life by Zeus
Why didn't Zeus just make a baby the old way? It's not like he didn't cuck mortal mens in Greek mythology.
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>>83543164
>rogers
marvel fag detected
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>>83543180
*vomits* give that CHARISMATIC ACTING a spoiler warning next time
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>>83543164
are you fucking stupid? he bathe on the fucking amazoninan water, of course he'll be ok
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>>83543213
>>83543027
AHAHAHA, Suicide Cucks.
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>>83543196

Because Diana a pure.
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Name a better actress
I DARE YOU
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>>83543204
just pointing out the ridiculous similarity anon

my favorite part of WW was the nazis in WWI and making a designated bad guy in a grey war desu
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>>83543213

SS really did have great costume design, can't wait for gotham sirens tbqh lads
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>>83543325
>the real bad guy was british
Confirmed for not watching the film
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>>83540023
>10/10
>9/10
>8/10
>7/10
>6/10
>5/10
Wonder Woman (Jenkins, 2017)
>4/10
Suicide Squad (Ayer, 2016)
>3/10
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (Snyder, 2016)
>2/10
Man of Steel (Snyder, 2013)
>1/10
>0/10

At this rate Justice League might be decent. Steadily climbing upwards...
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Kek
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>>83543341
not really though, lupin said he only gave the weapon plans to the germans, they went through with the nazi "lets bomb london till its six feet unden" germany plot by their own volition
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>>83543402
>watching it in 3d
disgusting
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>>83543402
this scene was lit like a fucking L'Oreal commercial
>gal is still pretty though :3
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>>83543410

Those were just the ones he directly influenced though.
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>>83543464
didn't influence them, just gave them blueprints
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Just got back from watching WW with some friends. They loved it, I thought it was decent. There were glimpses of a great movie but until the final act (plane scene w/Steve + monologue), it was lacking. The score was bring and forgettable, there was no grand motif that viewers could harken back to (aside from Zimmer's WW theme), the cgi was actually terrible, and the camera work/colors were generic. After the Island, any sort of effort that went into making the movie look good went out the window. The credits looked better than the movie (managed to show contrast of Diana and the rest of the world).
BvS and MoS for all their faults felt more weighty and nuanced. It felt like there was effort put into them, regardless of how the final product was.

The one thing I really liked about WW was the character of Diana. The writers did a good job of capturing what makes her unique without going overboard on "gurl power, love, etc." At the end it felt like she had conviction and purpose.

Overall, I thought it was a solid "OK." IMO, it doesn't deserve the praise it gets but it's decent. I don't think I'll ever watch it again.
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>>83543330
Allegedly on top of Catwoman and Poison Ivy it's going to have Black Mask and Penguin. I hope that Oscar means Ayer can go nuts with designing the characters again.
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>>83543512
>The credits looked better than the movie (managed to show contrast of Diana and the rest of the world).
I was talking to my m8 during the credits and missed them, what were the animations?
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>>83543571
Just sort of like paintings that called back to the movie. One part I really liked was the recreation of WW's push against that German trenches. Everything was mostly grey/brown/blur except for Diana's armor, lasso, sheild, etc. It's sort of cheesy but I like to think that's how the Allied soldiers saw Wonder Woman
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>mfw Patty Jenkins and Joss the "Boss" are going to get all the credit for bringing hope and light into the franchise when it was based Zack's plan all along
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>>83543402

Did the power of love trigger this many people when it was done in GOTG?
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>>83543563

is ayer still attached to it, thought they were looking around for someone new because of scarface
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Justice League Of America 1997 > All DC Movies
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Ironicaly saying BvS was good is really fun
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>>83542245
it was shit, paint by numbers.
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>>83543707
You can definitely tell that influences that Synder had on the script when watching WW. Too add on to
>>83543630
Jenkins did a decent job of handling the "human" parts of the movie but she missed out on some good visual opportunities and themes. For example I this may have been too cheesy or blatant but I would have loved it if Wonder Woman's armor was a bit more radiant to separate her from the gloominess of WWI.

Tonally, the movie was good but visually the movie was a dump. Camera work sucked, slow-mo became generic and distasteful (used at un-opportune times, only good usage was when WW was fighting in the buildings). CGI was also atrocious and made the Doomsday fight in BvS look really good.
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>>83544029
Nice meem
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>>83544155
kek, just noticed she wears heels the whole time
>women cucked again
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>>83544182

Yes? The movie doesn't exactly hide them or anything.
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>>83544182
Those are wedges, cuck. Harley wears heels.
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Will the numale be back in Justice League? Maybe he could repent.
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>>83544233
Wedges, heels, same thing.
Contemporary feminists hate them both.
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>>83544483

no we don't
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MoS #1
anyone who thinks otherwise can fight me
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they made a fucking red neck bearded english officer the main villain of the film. ww was a duck stuffed in shit floating in fucking clorox
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>>83540302
Suicide Squad is basically the worst movie i've ever seen so i find it kind of hard to believe that Wonder Woman is worse
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They have boots without the wedges.
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WW > BvS > MoS >> SS

WW was competently written, lots of great character moments and genuine humour, something that missing from current DCEU slot. I found Gal very entertaining, she looks really passionate with her role. Her relationship with Steve and other characters is the driving force of this movie. Action was good enough, albeit a little too much slow-mo.

BvS was overlong and overly complicated, a lots of storyline that hamfisted into one movie that left disjointed but there are some great scenes like the warehouse fight, and...majority of Batman scenes that I found entertaining. WW introduction was great too, shame that I found Superman to be the weakest part because he's still lacked real characterization in here.

I didn't found MoS really that compelling as Superman's origin story, the back and forth storyline was hard to follow because I just didn't feel the progression of Clark becoming Superman. Some great visual and the action scene was great but the shaky cam and constant zoom-in and out left me dizzy. The problem is the over the top action set pieces and explosion always occured on every acts, so the finale battle just felt hollow. Zod was great villain, that's a huge plus I guess.

Suicide Squad was pretty shit in all aspect, the concept itself was already pretty stupid. The songs felt shoehorned in the first hour and none of them stuck in my head. Felt like trying too hard to be stylish. Joker felt out of place and had nothing to do with the whole story. Shit villain, shit characters (some of them are entertaining though), shit humour, shit action, meh visual. One of the worst finale climax I've seen on superhero movie.
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>>83544563
FUCK.
OFF.
ROASTIE.
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>>83544071
This. At least BvS tried to establish its own identity. Many still insist it succeeded, and in a way, that's enough to know that it really did.

WW was a safe bet. And it suffered because of it. It became just another goofy superhero movie, with weak characterisation, a lackluster story, and a predictable plot.
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>>83540023
BvS>WW>MoS> power gap >SS

As far as DC qts are concerned:

WW > Harley > dirty enchantress > Lois Lane > Clarks Mom > clarks earth mom > enchantress

And once Aquaman comes out Amber heard might move up to the top of the list
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MoS OST / BvS OST > SS OST > WW OST
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>>83542701
this movies gonna suck isnt it
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MoS > BvS > Watchmen > WW > SS
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>>83540023
Shit > MoS >>> BvS >>> SS
I haven't seen WW but judging from the trailers it's probably somewhere between BvS and SS
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>>83543213
what's margot robbie's expression meaning to convey?
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>>83545346

>feminism only works for white women in hollywood, dollface!
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>>83543141
Start arguing any time
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>>83540069
this.
>>83540492
>>83540881
he was by far the best part of that movie. we better see him in the flash movie if that happens.
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>>83545613

Flash vs the rogues gallery would be fun
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>>83542035
Liberals will take offense to everything because they are subhuman.
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>>83544483
we love them
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>>83540023
>creating pure kino out of capeshit source material...is such a thing even possible?
>yes it is
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>>83542854

>You people only say the award's invalid because you don't have it.

No shit. It's invalid because Marvel deserves it and Meme Squad doesn't.
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>>83540023
For me personally

MoS > BvS > WW >>>>>>>>>>> SS
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>>83546672
I have trouble believing that anyone who thinks like this has ever actually read a comic book.
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>>83542518
I highly doubt it. Whedon did to the Avengers what comics writers did to characters through most of the Silver Age - rankled under strict control and let the characters become harmless parodies of themselves. WB may meddle, but they're nothing like the Mouse. No one could be.
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>>83544325
That would be fucking fantastic.
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>>83542854
This is TNG-tier.
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>>83548486
>Marvel deserves it
apparently, it didn't. take up your complaint with the academy.
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>>83543563
DC really needs to change The Joker's style. And remove that stupid Damaged tattoo.
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>>83540023
MoS >= WW >> BvS >>>>>>> SS
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>>83550970
That might not even *be* the Joker.
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>>83551066
Jason Todd theory? That shit is dead the moment the SS movie put it on screen Harley Quinn also killed Robin.
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>>83551260
Under what circumstances? Remember who Bruce's friends are. Someone burned down Wayne Manor, someone likely died in that fire, and someone got institutionalized; exactly how and in what order all remains to be seen.
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>>83543563
I fucking love Leto's Joker he was wasted in SS but unlike the grunge punk/ heath ledger looking Jokers

his can be put into pretty much any situation (put him in a classic suit or have him run his club and wear stupid pimp attire)

something that wouldn't work with a ledger type Joker and that's what a cinematic universe needs an insane but still semi functional Joker

I can only hope that Reeves gets to direct Affleck and Leto in a film together it will be legendary.
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>>83551260
Harley was "an accomplice to the murder of Robin"

which basically means she was there when J kidnapped him.
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>>83552628
>it will be legendary.
Indeed it will.
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>>83552694
Also - "Robin." Not specifically Jason Todd. It's intentionally ambiguous. At least so far, they're doing what neither Lucas nor Ridley Scott has been able to effectively pull off - fill in a mystery without ruining it. I hope they can continue to do so.

I want to see what happened to Bruce. I want to see what changed him, and I want it to be terrible, more than any man could ever be expected to bear, hero or not. I want to see it and think to myself, "Of course he kills now. Who wouldn't?"
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>>83552856
>>83552856
100% agree, I wasn't mad about Bruce killing in BvS I knew it served a purpose in Snyders arc for the characters.

I may be reading into this to much but every time Bruce kills someone in BvS its not filmed in a way to make people say "FUCK YEAH AWESOME" the shots linger a few seconds too long to make people realize how fucked up Bruce is in his current mind state.

I think the Batmobile scene is a prime example of this while I think the scene is ultimately pointless for the rest of the films plot it does show how Snyder doesn't celebrate Bruce killing, its brutal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_EbYdg9sqg
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>>83553118
Even the way he kills is important. Notice how in his vision, he kills with guns, kills barehanded even. That is his rock bottom. Through the plot of the movie, he never once puts a bullet in anyone, not even KGBeast. His psyche, his conscience, won't allow him to. It has to be in a way, however tenuous, that he can rationalize as collateral damage.
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>>83540278
More real than Marvel's oscar, I tell you that
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>>83541760
> SS Bohemian Rhapsody trailer

it still fucking hurts bros
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>>83542245
It was a Marvel movie done right. I still like BvS more
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>>83540023
BvS Extended > MoS > WW > Marvel > shit > Suicide Squad
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kinomaker has kino taste
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>>83540023
>that WBC sign
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>>83552628
They should have done the plot less "muh saving the world" scale and more
like a stealt mission, the squad versus the penguin and the joker team would allow other plot points and dinamics like betrayal and greediness.
Instead they went with
>We are not real spreally so evil teehee
>Muh lighting out of the sky thing
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>>83553999
btw, realized the Knightmare scene is a visual reference to mad max 2
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>>83554407
He even had JunkieXL use a sample from his Fury Road score for the Knightmare scene.
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>>83554380
English isn't your first language is it?
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>>83554407
never noticed the joker thing on the gun. INteresting
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>>83554549
>>83554407
I remember a cool fan theory was that Bruce is wearing Gordons trench coat and Joker was a weapons merchant and everyone in that universe got their firearms off of him to fight against Supes.

almost certain that isn't the case but it was cool head canon.

also if some of you didn't know that's supposed to be Wayne Manor in the background of pic related.
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>>83540069
I still can't believe they cut BVS like that. It at least had a linear narration vs MoS
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>>83554658
that'd be cool

instead of this batman beyond-esque damian game WB is supposedly doing, they should do an open-world RPG set in the knightmare reality
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>>83554937
hnnnnnnngggg
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claim your DC waifu bros
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>>83555195
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>>83555195
The patrician choice
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>>83555228
I ain't judging
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>>83555195
Amy
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>>83544325
>numale with faggoty haircut hates obvious Jesus figure who saves the world
>Attractive, white, blonde girl loves Superman, wears a shirt that says "Superman saves"
What did Snyder mean by this?
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>>83555195
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>>83555827
YOU'RE A FUCKING KRYPTONIAN MALE
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WW > MoS > BvS > SS
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>>83555195
The dominatrix.
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>>83542454
>Snyder thinks he's too good for movies when he's not even competent enough to make a coherent capeshit spectacular
>Suicide Squad was turned into a mess because the studio stopped Ayer from making a movie halfway through so they could blatantly copy superficial aspects of recent popular Marvel movies
>This is how they won their only Oscar
I'm not going to call you a shill. DC shills evidently exist, but there's no way they'd pay someone with grammar this bad.
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>>83556278
Spotted the Marvelcuck
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>>83555195
Gal. I'll feed my ratfu all the cheese she wants while we bomb Palestinians together
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>>83556422
Nice argument, faglord. I've got a film degree; I watch all these movies once for a giggle, the same way I watch a lot of movies. I, like a lot of people, have noticed that any movie made by Zach Snyder is an outright insult to the viewer.
Go ahead and write your dissertation about how he's awesome though :) I'm going out but perhaps someone will screencap it
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>>83556278
t. triggered MCUck
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>>83556614
> I've got a film degree
even if this was true you'd never make anything close to the perfection of a Snyder film, real film makers don't waste their time on Moroccan Fly Fishing forums.

run along now little marvelcuck
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>>83542950
Just do yourself a favor and watch all the Joker scenes on youtube. That's all you need to see in relation to the BvS mythos.
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>>83551260
I highly DOUBT Ayer consulted Snyder on the DCEU lore and just pulled that out of his ass.
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>>83553118
I think you're right about the killing meant to be uncomfortable.

The responding officers in the first scene were freaked out by the brand, they obviously knew what it meant for the prisoner.

Him killing wasn't supposed to be "badass"
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>>83557168
seems to be that the branding is part of his character arc and recognized as something out of the ordinary, but the "manslaughter" wasn't initially intended to be part of the arc. it's just cool.
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>>83557219
>"There's a new kind of mean in him. He's angry and he's hunting"

No the killing was very much part of his arc, Jason dying had him on edge and when Clark brought Zod to earth and got Wayne Enterprises (Bruce treats all of his employees like family, Jack etc.) leveled to the ground

that was the moment Bruce started killing, Snyders Batman didnt always kill and it wasn't just because it was cool.

one of the biggest misconception in the world of film is that Zack Snyder is some Michael Bay tier meathead.
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>>83557521
>Snyder will never direct the batfleck movie with a huge budget and no meddling by WB

I'm fine with Reeves but I seriously think Snyder would be better.
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>>83557645
Snyder would do great but I honestly think Reeves is going to make a godly Batman film.

Dawn of the Apes was fantastic and War looks just as good if not even better.

he has the right serious gritty tone to his directing style that will make it fantastic, I just hope we don't lose the depth you get from a Snyder film.
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>>83540023
No.

MOS>WW>BVS>>>>>>>SS
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>>83540492
Poor mans tom hardy
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>>83557799
I don't think we would lose depth, or grit, but Zach favours frank Miller Batman- cruel and callous. I'm worried Reeves will just make him Nolan Batman 2.0
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>>83542616
Man doomsday really killed this movie
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>>83557983
Lets not forget Affleck may have dropped out of Directing but he is still very much bringing Reeves on as a partner to direct while he is in front of the camera I expect this to still very much be Afflecks vision for the most part and he joined because he liked the Frank Miller pitch Zack gave him so I dont see it changing drastically.
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In what world is Batman v Superman or Man of Steel better than Wonder Woman? WW was a real film with a real vision devoid of trying to achieve The Avengers effect (BvS) or the Christopher Nolan aesthetic (Man of Steel).

Get real.

Not to mention Patty Jenkins is a real storyteller rather than a glorified music video director.
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>>83557521
>one of the biggest misconception in the world of film is that Zack Snyder is some Michael Bay tier meathead.

That is true, he clearly tries to give some insight into the pathos of its characters. In my opinion, his images have too much self importance (the scenes on their individual basis, I mean) and strain into them, while the scripts he works with are not so greatly defined. Most of Man of Steel was incredibly silly, for example, while the movie kept insisting on the seriousness of its themes and the immense weight of every move; it kinda reminds me of Underworld, in a way, but with way more talent. Watchmen suffered from this, too, since there was a clear effort in making everything more spectacular, while passing lightly on the real meat and politics of Moore's material. Michael Mann, to put an example of another clear author within Holywood's lines, is way more interesting in that regard.

That said, I haven't seen Batman v Superman in its director's cut, how is it?
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>>83558150
>The Avengers effect (BvS) or the Christopher Nolan aesthetic (Man of Steel).

You're not even trying
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>>83558264
He's right though. Man of Steel wasn't even a Zack Snyder film, it was Nolan-lite.
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>>83554407
>>83554444
>>83554549
>>83554658
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>>83558421
The movie I need but not the movie I deserve.
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>>83558325
It delved more into mythological figures and models than Nolan has ever done in his entire career, which is more focused on the political. The aesthetic or narrative approach isn't nearly similar.

I mean, the film's dramatically silly, but so is 300 and Watchmen.
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>>83558172
The film still has its flaws but the ultimate cut is fantastic and if you have 3 hours to spare its worth watching I'll never watch the theatrical cut again, a complete butcher of Snyders vision.

its just such a bizarre film so nihilistic and depressing but I can't help but love it.

BvS is up there as one of my favorite CBM's.

Unbreakable>MOS>Watchmen>BvS>Spiderman1/2
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>>83543026
What the fuck is suicide squad about then
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>>83558150
I always thought that moment was supposed to be a call back to the "make the world smaller" scene with his mom when he was a kid. In both scenes he's being overwhelmed by something that he couldn't prevent because he didn't know how to yet. In both scenes he's brought back by a woman having him focus entirely on her.
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>>83543512
Thats Junkie Xls Wonder woman theme you cuck
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BvS UC >> Wonder Woman >>> Man of Steel

All 3 are kino

Suicide shit isn't worth ranking.
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>>83540023
BvS ultimate > WW > MoS > BvS > powergap > garbage > SS
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>>83558582
Family
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>>83558498
Yeah I'm sure the shot of Jesus behind Clark Kent really got your pseud neurons going.

Also, any "deep" meanings you try to instill into you're favorite capeshit become dead when the director implements shots of IHOPs and Turkish Airlines in the backgrounds of the films.

Snyder literally looks up to Nolan. He wishes he was half the filmmaker he was. Get real.
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>>83558568
Unbreakable is so fucking good.
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>>83543196
In the movie clay version can be interpeted as Diana's mother making shit up.
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>>83558589
The kiss kills that. It comes off as selfish and Supes just trying to get his dick wet. It's Snyder's fuccboi frat sensibilities bleeding into the film.
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>>83558691
Kek snyderlet
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>>83545803
Conservatives will take offense to everything because they are subhuman.
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>>83558691
redditor nolan fanboys need to leave

/tv/: snyder, cameron

reddit: nolan, tarantino
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>>83558725
>interpeted
Are's flat out reveals that was bullshit. Zues fucked Hippolyta in the DCEU.

He also has a cameo at the start of JL
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>>83558925
>I have daddy issues: the post
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>>83558691
You're not trying to respond to my message. I'm not saying Snyder is superior or in any way deeper. In fact, I think his narrative approach is sillier than what his images tell (I do enjoy his pictures more than I do Nolan's, who has very little interest to me outside of the raw time plays he makes with his films, which are so overblown by his complete inability to use images in any interesting way but the most linear and simplistic).

I'm just saying his directorial approach is completely different. It doesn't take that much effort to notice; just compare how they handle battle scenes if general movies are that difficult.
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>>83558937
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>>83558925
This.

friendly reminder that Zack inspired based Cameron
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>>83558980
>i go on /r/movies: the post
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>>83558983
Stop moving goalposts you cowardly swine.
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>>83559016
>with an iconic style of filmmaking
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>>83559177
How the fuck am I moving the goalposts if my original post was this:

It delved more into mythological figures and models than Nolan has ever done in his entire career, which is more focused on the political. The aesthetic or narrative approach isn't nearly similar.

I mean, the film's dramatically silly, but so is 300 and Watchmen.

?

I mean, "in his entire career" can sound crass, but I'm talking about the themes that each director is interested in.
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>>83559217
post a screenshot from the russo brothers, bitchboy
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>>83559217
>its a director decides what product placement is in his film episode

the DCEU wasn't a thing yet and Snyder was trying to make MOS exist in our actual world. product placement sucks but both sides are guilty.
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>>83559313
>that grid

Like I said, he's a glorified music video director.
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>>83559355
you're an idiot and you know nothing about film
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>>83559355
So is David Fincher, you need to talk more about your point.
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>>83559338
I kek'd hard in the cinema when that shot came on screen.
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>>83559338
The thing is, Captain America isn't pretending to be a film at the pinnacle of filmmaking.

Snydershits parade MoS and BvS like they're the citizen kane of capeshit when in reality they're just grimdark messes
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>>83559385
David Fincher can tell an actual story, retard.
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>>83559411
>being ambitious is a bad thing

could you make it any more obvious that you're a pleb?
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>>83559449
so why are Watchmen, BvS and MoS not actual stories? Because your friends on /r/movies and left-wing, post-modernist film critics told you they weren't?
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>>83559411
Has Snyder ever said he feels his films are "the pinnacle of filmmaking." ?

I think that's you projecting when you see Snyder having a bit of integrity and respect towards film as an artform.

so what if his film has forced product placement by WB?

the rest of it is incredible in my and a bunch of other peoples opinion so why even bother debating capeshit if all it boils down to you is "its not the pinnacle of filmmaking."

just fucking go watch Memories of Murder for the 1000th time instead of arguing with comic book fans.
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>>83559557
lol
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>>83559509
The email attachment scene in BvS was so cool. Le Capebino! xD
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>>83559509
Serious question, is Zach actually not a leftist? I'm fairly centrist but I can't stand Hollywood political culture.
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>>83559638
i agree that WB forced snyder to put in a bad scene, yes
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>>83540069
I hate this meme
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>>83558937
>amazons are senile bitches who making shit up
>germans did nothing wrong and were affected by the God of War, who is literally apears as british

I remember all those threads "germans will be depicted as hitlers". Well they were wrong.
DCEU at it again.
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>>83559557
>Snyder is cluttering the frame so that means it's better
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>>83559557
>a bit of integrity and respect towards film as an artform


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVIB9sGYeUw
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>>83559449
Pretty much null points. How does Snyder not know how to tell a story, and how does his personal composition style get in the way of narrative? Talk about things, please.
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>>83559788
top fucking kek.
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>>83559788
>Look this ad that Snyder was forced to do proves he is a hack
are you going to say that Based Cameron is a hack for taking money to shill that terrible Terminator film? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAGS0G2i7UY
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>>83540023
MoS is virtually unwatchable because of the camera.
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>>83559949
fool, see >>83559380
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>>83540023
yep
>>
>be WB
>MoS was pretty ok
>Can release some few origin movie like WW, Flash etc
>Nah,.we are too lazy for that, let's cachgrab Batman and Superman in literally Super Power Beat Down the movie
>it makes as much money as fucking Antman
>amm...let's do films about actual hero for once
>WW is success
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>>83559654

He's an objectivist, so a rightist but at least one with a bit of a brain. While Ayn Rand was wrong about almost everything, unlike the rest of the political right at least she had the opinion that one needs to accomplish something before they feel superior where your average rightist starts with the assumption they're superior and then try to come up with a rationalization.

>>83559509

Honestly, I feel like BvS is meant to be looked at through a post modernist lense, most of the subtext would be lost if you didn't.
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>>83559921
Yeah, "Based" Cameron is a hack too. A pochahontos reskin riding on a 3D gimmick doesn't warrant you into the conversation of best directors of all time

Zack Snyder, Michael Bay, and Cameron are all in the same tier of directors.
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>>83555195
Margot is the normie choice
Amy is the MOMMY poster choice
Faora is the "That guy" choice
Katana is the yellow fever choice
Amber is the masochist choice
Gal is the patrician choice
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>>83560345
>Zack Snyder, Michael Bay, and Cameron are all in the same tier of directors.

i agree
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Is Snyder religious?
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>>83560345
>Wah I didnt like Avatar
neither did I but i'm not going to act like Cameron didn't direct incredible films before it.

doesn't matter though I now realize the kind of person I'm debating... please fuck off, go watch a Tarantino flick or something.
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>>83560548
Yes
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>>83560636
Wrong. sacreligious for someone who is Christian. Only an athiest would like that
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>>83560636
Anyone mildly religious would punch the shit out of the other if the shopped his face onto Jesus, I think.
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>>83560713
Zack is part of the Church of Snyder
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>>83560713
>>83560768
Maybe Zack just isn't a cunt about it?
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>>83560768
It's jesus, not Mohamed. Lots of Christians have a sense of humor about this. I'm Catholic, I wouldn't mind
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>>83560850
This
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>>83560567
..Are you trying to make fun of ME while posting a photoshopped superhero movie image?

Don't choke on that contrarianism.
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>>83560038
That doesn't address the problems of the camera in movement.
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Is there anything more pathetic than actually taking a side in the corporate capeshit wars?
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>>83560883
Yeah I am making fun of YOU, are you crying?
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>>83560979
Yes.. siding with Marvel
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DChads, why is the DC subreddut so shitty. They like WW more than BvS, want a kinder Batman, and constantly post shitty marvel 13 year old tier memes about stuff like superman farting

It's only useful to read news
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>>83561085
You should go to the DC Cinematic subreddit.
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>>83561197
That's the one I'm referring to. The discussions on here are so much better than most of the ones there.


They unironically use the phrase "badassery"
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DC BTFO !!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>83561330
CRINGE
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Will we ever get the Suicide Squad kinocut with all the deleted Joker scenes?
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>>83561277
>reddit
there's your problem. reddit is one of the main reasons we have a circle jerk of the same opinions and social engineering of the DCEU is bad meme
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>>83561407
>Mfw the "extended cut" was only 11 minutes longer

when the trailer for it first came out I actually thought WB went ahead and were going to release the original cut.
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league is going to blow my dick off
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>>83561804
bottom left is BvS, not JL
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>>83561924
...yeah

only the middle row is league
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>>83543026
this. we are going backwards
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>>83543026
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>>83544779
>DUDE HUMOR LMAO
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>>83542904
>>83542904
This

Also, I had second hand embarrassment watching the opening act. Every single line of dialogue, every single """actor""" every shot of action, all of it was fucking abysmal. Ive never seen something so poorly made. I felt like I was watching a Hallmark channel production.
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>>83561804
and people say dc capeshit looks trash baka
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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