tolkien lore and future adaptions discussion

They should make a two-season television series out of the Noldor's journey in The Silmarillion.

That's not how you start a comfy LotR thread tho. it needs to be dumb bait

I'd prefer an adaption of Children of Hurin

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>>83437418
let me try
>stop caring about childish banalities

>>83437186
What characters do you think they would change into black people for diversity?

Best case scenario: everyone in hollywood forgets tolkien exists

because after what happened with the hobbit I don't want any of them touching the rest of his works

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>>83437461
Idris Elba would play Beren

Thingol would oppose his romance with Luthien because he a rayciss ass cracka

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>>83437864
kek

>>83437186
I loved this story in The Silmarillion. I'll read it when it comes out in paperback. Children of Hurin was very good, I thought.

>Luthien described as the most beautiful being ever to grace middle-earth
>that cover art

Alan Lee pls

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>future adaptations

We were lucky we got the LotR movies we did, none of these people should touch anything related to the first or second age after what happened with The Hobbit. Hopefully the next in line after Chris dies is as autistic about keeping everyone away from it as he is.

>>83438348
kek

>>83438337
Yeah, he's got some good illustrations but I'm more of a John Howe man myself. I love his ominous and sharp tones. I'd love to find an artist who does good character art though, like someone who does Luthien or a Turin justice

>men in holes
when are you nerds killing yourself?

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>>83437186
Got this genuine prop from a friend who worked on the set. Wasn't used in the actual movie but I think there may have been a line referencing it.

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>>83437186
>future adaptions discussion
You can't adapt the silmarillion, the same way you can't really adapt the old testament. Audiences are not ready for so many narratives and characters at once. Beren and Luthien alone would easily take 15 hours of film if not more. To script this is a inhuman task, not to mention the loss of intellectual depth present in the original books. You won't get the chants or poems, you won't get the linguistics richness, you will definitely not get close to the elegant literature and poetry of JRRT's prose.
And even if you somehow did, getting the rights would be nearly impossible to begin with.
It's probably better this way. This is a case where it's better to have nothing than something mediocre. See the Hobbit.

The Silmarillion sucks as a whole but some of the individual stories (Fall of Gondolin) are good.

>>83438695
>This is a case where it's better to have nothing than something mediocre. See the Hobbit.

Hobbit should've been a cakewalk of an adaptation. It's happier, easier and more self-contained than LotR. The reason why it sucked was purely monetary.

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>>83437186
>She was already a quadroon.
>She has to pay the toll and follow him to the grave.
>Her family has to leave her behind as they travel to better places because she can no longer go with them.
>Even her half breed Dad doesn't want it to happen because he will have to give her up forever.

Pretty cautionary tale really.

>>83438812
>The reason why it sucked was purely monetary.
And how would this be any different with the Silmarillion?

If anything it was serendipity that fellowship of the ring was so good. Jackson was lucky. And his luck is now completely gone.

>>83437445
>complains about bringing Gandalf back
>brings Jon back
hmmm

>>83438867
>how would this be any different with the Silmarillion?

Hobbit should've been good. With Silmarillion, there's doubt it could ever be good.

>>83437186
If anybody other than John Boorman is put in charge it'll be garbage.

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>>83437186
>does Tolkien infer that the Gods are Goys?

Pretty much all of Aule's followers or creations seem to suffer from covetousness and desire for power and treasures.
Sauron and Sauruman are his Maiar, the dwarves who bring so much chaos to the world are his creation.
Aule is seen as good but his creations all seem flawed.

>>83437461
Eol
he will literally be a Dark Elf.

what should Jackson tackle next?

>The Search for Gollum Trilogy between The Hobbit and LOTR
>Barliman Butterbur: A Lord of the Rings Story
>The Lord of the Rings Episode IV: The Shadow Awakens (based on some notes on the events after ROTK found scribbled on one of Tolkien's napkins)

>>83437186
Wait is this out yet?

>>83439059
>Barliman Butterbur: A Lord of the Rings Story
Fuck yes

>>83439020
More than three decades after publishing “The Hobbit,” Tolkien spoke about the Jewish-dwarvish connection during a BBC interview.

“I didn’t intend it, but when you’ve got these people on your hands, you’ve got to make them different, haven’t you?” said Tolkien during the 1971 interview. “The dwarves of course are quite obviously, wouldn’t you say that in many ways they remind you of the Jews? Their words are Semitic, obviously, constructed to be Semitic. The hobbits are just rustic English people,”

https://youtu.be/9-G_v6-u3hg?t=418

>>83438395
>people used to hate on Chris for being so autistically protective of his father's legacy
>the hobbit happens
Apologise

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>>83439059
a tv series about the sackville-bagginses in the style of keeping up appearances

>>83437186
Regular reminder that beren and luthien is based on the GOAT and his wife Edith:

>"I never called Edith Luthien – but she was the source of the story that in time became the chief part of the Silmarillion. It was first conceived in a small woodland glade filled with hemlocks at Roos in Yorkshire (where I was for a brief time in command of an outpost of the Humber Garrison in 1917, and she was able to live with me for a while). In those days her hair was raven, her skin clear, her eyes brighter than you have seen them, and she could sing – and dance. But the story has gone crooked, & I am left, and I cannot plead before the inexorable Mandos."

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>Aule was always faithful to Eru and submitted all his creations to His will. He was never jealous of others' creations, but sought and gave counsel. He enjoyed in the things he made and in the making itself and passed ever to some new work, without hoarding or possessing. For this, there was much strife between him and Melkor who envied him; Melkor always marred his work and Aule always sought to repair them.[1][2]

Aule is basically the embodiment of the white European cuck, creating for others to steal and corrupt and destroy yet always being a good goy and fixing shit for it to be destroyed again

>>83439245
>But the story has gone crooked, & I am left, and I cannot plead before the inexorable Mandos.

Fuck, imagine coming back from the most disgusting and brutal war and witnessing your literal soul mate dancing in prairies. Imagine the happiness that JRR Tolkien felt and now imagine how he felt when she was gone.

>>83439249
you could say that about any valar, Melkor is the the others you are alluding to. In Tolkien's lore destruction always breeds creation and vice versa. The silmarils themselves are the ultimate example of this duality.

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>The world is black and white

Imagine being this retarded.

>>83437461
I don't. I do think you're a whinging, virtue-signaling cockfaggot though.

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>>83439402
welcome to /tv/, where there's no need to imagine!

>>83437186
>future adaptions
Please no more. We have suffered enough.
Finance original scripts for a change ffs

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>>83439402
Guarantee you think this way too, only the colours are reversed

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I wonder where the rights fetch up when CJRT dies. Which he will eventually, although distaste for Jackson's overrated rubbish and the desire to stop him creating more of it is probably what's keeping him alive.

>>83439402
are you implying blacks do not exist? Stop exerting your privilege, racist

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>>83437864
does /pol/ have to ruin EVERYTHING?

Why did Isildur get a bad reputation for keeping the ring? Sauron was the only one who had it up until that point. There was no way to know it would corrupt the wearer.

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>>83439509
based

>>83437186
>The audio book will not be narrated by Christopher Lee
It hurts

>>83439551
there was. Celebrimor warned the elves that Sauron would create a master ring

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>>83437440
Anon

Children of Hurin has been out for years

>>83439585
So it's a master ring. Big deal. Isildur had proved himself to be a pretty decent guy. A good person could use the ring to make the world a better place.

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>>83439519
They overshit their own cage. People like that tend not to be sympathetic.

The next adaption will not be the Silmarillion

Its very likely that, if the current trends continue, we will see LOTR remade in the next 5-10 years, if not sooner

They are already remaking movies from the early 2000s, its inevitable they will cash in on the Tolkien buxx again

>>83439509
WOAH! Excellent comeback bro! wew you really showed that cuck by trying to use SJW cliche tactics on him!

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>>83438348
this is so raciss dude!

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>>83439645
That's Galadriel's point. it would be nothing but a tyranny. The one ring is a deception, dare I say it? A trap.There's no good that could come from Sauron's creation.

Wasnt there an actual story about elf racism in the Silmarillion

Some dark elf motherfucker who went to a hidden city with another kind of elf ruling it and they all hated his ass?

I dont remember what the story was called

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>>83439784
This is the worst fucking autism. It's no different from the "TRUMP IS VULDAMURT" gaggle of idiots.

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>>83439732
kekek spicy as fuck memes

I wish I could go back in time Abduct Tolkein and show him the Trilogy and ask his opinion

do blacks exist in the world of middle earth?

>>83437440
Can't show incest

>>83439853
yeah they're the haradrim, sauron's operation get behind the darkies

>>83439853
yes. south of mordor. They exist but there is no tale about them. Just a few allusions here and there.

>>83439794
>taking the bait this fucking hard

Kek, oh anon! I happen to personally know 7 of the posters on you've referenced and can assure you quite confidently they are nearly jesting for good sport :€)

>>83439853
yeah he described black skinned men with red tongues and eyes like coals, as well as 'half-trolls'.

>>83439648
Please be more tolerant to /pol/ refugees. Accept their culture. If you don't like it then it's your problem, not theirs.

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>>83439914
contributions like yours should be banned from /tv/
I'd rather see porn pictures posted here than your childish pointless pseudo memes

>>83439794
if your such a big fan of j.r.r.tolkien then please describe in intricate detail the hobbits tax policies

>>83439519
not your safespace - sin't that what you lot have been copying recently?

>>83439771
France in the early 19th century loved Napoleon so much that they gladly accepted him as a dictator shortly after they deposed their monarchy for a democratic republic. Tyrants can be the best form of government.

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wow mods are really cleaning up

>capthca

>>83440034
Napoleon had a mind and a charisma, not a magical ring in a fantasy world. Your argument is precisely Boromir's pov. it's a fallacy, a mistake, it leads to nothing but misery. The whole 3 books are about how your pov is an error. Gollum himself is what happens when you keep the One ring. It's even written on the bloody thing:

>Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
>Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
>Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
>One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
>In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
>One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
>One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
>In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

But please keep bringing real life example to demonstrate your lack of reading comprehension. It is amusing to observe such stubbornness.

>>83439914
Aww now he's really angry! What's matte?? Poor little baby's first time browsing a Lithuanian Ant Farming forum?

Don't worry, your season stay here will all be over soon. Just try and keep to observing rather than posting while visiting ;]

Is there 4k Edition for LotR?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVMq7ynj_64

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>>83437186
being huan is suffering

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>>83440200
>One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne

eh? eh?

>>83440200
My point is how would they have known the ring was bad once Isildur kept it? He would not have seen the words because they only appear in fire. All they have is a ring they know gives great power to the wearer. They also have monarchies in middle earth. What's wrong about a monarch (especially a good monarch) getting more power to make his kingdom better? You're using information obtained after Isildur took the ring to say why it was a bad idea to take the ring.

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>>83440510
did sauron use the toilet when he was corporeal?

does aragon need to make dookie?

what about the lady Gabrielle, does she push logs on the daily?


i dont think i've seen toilets or portapotties in middle.earth so do they dig wholes or something?

>>83440579
If a Single bite from a Lembas can fill your stomach what did Pippin shit out after he eat 4 whole bread

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>>83440627
woah

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does tolkien lore have any robots characters? metal-golem or something?

>>83440627
if I eat a lembas and wait for a while a shit comes out my ass hole. but if I eat a shit why doesn't a lembas come out my ass hole?

>>83439086
out today

>>83440627
A loaf, obviously.

>>83437186
How long until they adapt Tolkien's shopping lists?

>>83440521
Someone hasn't read the silmarillion. Every reader knew, but nearly everyone in the lore had forgotten about it or were dead by the time of the trilogy.

You're assuming the ring didn't exist before the trilogy while in truth it was forged during the second age and it directly lead to the fall of Numenor, thousand of years before bilbo. The Ring helped Sauron after his defeat against the numenorean fleet. Sauron was able to use the Númenóreans' fear of death as a way to turn them against the Valar, and manipulate them into worshiping his master, Morgoth, and performing human sacrifice. This led to the complete demise and flooding of Numenor by the Valar.
Later the Ring indirectly caused Isildur's death, it was known in Gondorian lore as "Isildur's Bane".

The Ring's primary power was control of the other Rings of Power and domination of the wills of their users.
As the Ring contained a large part of Sauron's power, it was endowed with a malevolent sentience of sorts. While separated from Sauron, the Ring would strive to return to him by manipulating its bearer to claim ownership of it, or by abandoning the bearer at an opportune moment.

Despite its power, the Ring did not render its bearer omnipotent. Three times Sauron suffered military defeat while bearing the Ring, first by Gil-galad in the War of Sauron and the Elves, again by Ar-Pharazôn when Númenórean power so overawed his armies that they deserted him, and again at the end of the Second Age with his personal defeat by Gil-galad and Elendil.

>>83440678
Legolas is obvisously a steampowered elvish-bot

Make the elves black men who keep taking the women away from pathetic white human "men".

>>83439788
Ëol maybe

>>83439648
this picture is depressing AF

LOTR reboot WHEN

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>>83440903
not him, just need to say that these posts are why i come here.

there's always someone that knows so much about the lore and can condense it and retell it so eloquently that my babby brain can comprehend it and appreciate it.

>>83441031
Absolutely not. They'd ruin it and you know it.

>>83440903
>Isildur's BANE?

>>83439723
woah. Your analysis is so deep, I bet you study post-modern thought and social sciences. One can only bow before such intellectual superiority

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>>83441066
Oh jeez...what have I done

>>83441054
how about an all-female cast?

>>83440521
>how would they have known the ring was bad once Isildur kept it? He would not have seen the words because they only appear in fire.


well here's a funny thing.
When Isildur took the Ring from Sauron's hand, it was burning hot, so the letters were legible. Isildur was able to transcribe the inscription before it faded as the Ring cooled. This transcription survived in a document Isildur left himself in Gondor before marching north to the Gladden Fields, where he was killed and the Ring lost. That document is the one Gandalf discovers in the first movie.

>>83441344
delete this please

>>83440903
I feel like I'm making the same argument over and over again and you just aren't understanding.

>You're assuming the ring didn't exist before the trilogy
Of course I know it existed before the trilogy.

>The Ring's primary power was control of the other Rings of Power and domination of the wills of their users.
>As the Ring contained a large part of Sauron's power, it was endowed with a malevolent sentience of sorts. While separated from Sauron, the Ring would strive to return to him by manipulating its bearer to claim ownership of it, or by abandoning the bearer at an opportune moment.

This is all stuff made known to the reader. Would Isildur, at the time, have known the ring was evil or would he just have known it was powerful? The 7 and the 9 rings of power were already in the hands of Sauron's minions when Isildur took the one ring. So if all he knew was that he would have control over the wills of the 16 ringbearers, then I don't see how that's a bad thing. If he knew it was powerful, I don't see how it's bad that he took it either. It's like knowledge of nuclear physics. In the hands of a bad guy it can be used to make a weapon. In the hands of a good guy it can be used to create energy. If Isildur knew that it contained part of Sauron's soul for lack of a better word, then sure, it would be dumb to take it.

So once again. The only question I have, and the only thing you have not addressed in all your posts, is:

Would Isildur, at the time of taking the ring, have known the ring was evil or would he just have known it was powerful?

>>83441369
Okay. This helps to answer my question.

>>83441412
all right I see. in context for the character is the the war nerve then.
well I guess this is comes down to the literature interpretation one makes.

As the reader it is absolutely clear the ring is a tool for evil, it is deceptive and treacherous. Also the only surviving ring bearers are all Hobbits (which only strengthens the claim Gandalf makes about the exceptional nature of hobbits's resiliency and the big role of small folks in the grand scheme of things).

The Ring slowly but inevitably corrupted its bearer, regardless of the bearer's initial intent. For this reason the Wise, including Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel, refused to wield it themselves, but determined instead that it should be destroyed. The corrupting power of the ring was apparently stronger on individuals more inclined to evil and selfishness: it took almost immediate hold of the greedy Sméagol as soon as he saw it, and corrupted Boromir after a few months of near proximity, while its effects were only starting to be seen in the well-meaning Bilbo after his sixty years' possession.

Now Isildur is a whole another matter. Isildur was there when Numenor fell. He saw first hand what Sauron had achieved as he fled the great flooding on a boat. Though counselled to destroy the Ring notably by GilGalad and Elrond, he was swayed by its power and kept it safe instead, "as weregild for my father, and my brother". A few years later, Isildur was ambushed by orcs by the River Anduin near the Gladden Fields; he put on the Ring to escape, but it slipped from his finger as he swam across the river, and, suddenly visible, he was killed by the orcs.

So IMO he knew, but he was corrupted rather easily and fast by it as all mortal men have.

>>83441388
the ring could be reinterpreted as symbolizing the oppressive patriarchal institution of marriage from which Freda must save the She-ire

>>83441879
No dude the ring is the atomic bomb, sauron is Hitler and saruman is Mussolini

>>83441862
small addendum:

the elves knew since the beginning about the true evil nature of the One ring.

Tolkien's essay "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age" in The Silmarillion gives the background of the making of the rings. At the end of the First Age, Sauron evaded the call of the Valar to surrender, and fled to Middle-earth. Midway through the Second Age he came in disguise as Annatar ("Lord of Gifts") to the Elven smiths of Eregion, who were led by Celebrimbor, and taught them the craft of forging magic rings. Tolkien writes that the Elves made many lesser rings as essays in the craft, but eventually with Sauron's assistance they forged the Seven and the Nine. The Three were made by Celebrimbor himself without Sauron's assistance; they remained unsullied by his touch.

When the Elves wearing the rings discerned Sauron's intention, they immediately removed them and hid them. Sauron invaded the West to recover the rings that the Elves had made; much of the West, including Eregion, was destroyed before he was driven back to Mordor. Sauron recovered the Nine and the Seven, but not the Three, which remained hidden and unsullied.

>>83439551
>Why did Isildur get a bad reputation for keeping the ring?

He didn't. It wasn't known how dangerous the One Ring was at the time or what a big mistake not destroying it was (in fact, Gandalf said that Sauron believed that the Ring HAD been destroyed back then at first, so the fatal effects of destroying the Ring on Sauron were unknown back then) and Isildur didn't live long enough for it to corrupt him.

>>83441066
If I pull that Ring off, will you die?

>>83442463
Nah, not really

Beren and Lúthien is out today.

Amazon has it for next day delivery.
Wh Smiths has it for 1-2 weeks delivery.

I have some book tokens I wanted to use for Smiths.
Why?

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>>83442842
I don't know

>>83442842
I don't know either

>>83439059
Aragon's Tax Policy: A Lord of the Rings Story.

>>83442842
>tfw greek
>tfw the only reason we have Tolkien translations in the first place is because some chick in the 70s found a forgotten english version of LotR left back by a tourist, loved it, and went on a publication house and literally convinced them to let her translate it

I will just wait until it hits the tourist bookshop shelves and buy it from there
No way I am waiting until based ms Kolia manages to convince some moronic publisher, it took her almost 20 years for unfinished tales and only because of the movie hype

>>83438879
Technically he hasn't brought Jon back yet

>>83437445
>gets rich by shitty series adaptations
>abandons fanbase and project alike
>meanwhile Tolkien is publishing book from the fucking grave

>>83442842
I got a used hardback copy of Children of Hurin for cheap from Amazon, this was after a few years though. i suggest waiting a while.

>>83443099
That's the problem, I don't want to wait.
Normally I'm a paperback person because of space but I'm still waiting for The Story of Kullervo in paperback.

>>83443142
Why not pirate e-book, and then acquire paperback when available

>>83443176
Because I respect Tolkien enough to buy the works and if I don't the company is less inclined to produce more books in the future.

>>83443252
Yeah, I understand that, but you are going to buy the paperback when it comes out anyway

>>83443142
I've got the same problem. All my Tolkien books are paperback so I don't want a hardback. I'm just going to wait.

So is lotr basically just a bunch of fap fics involvling male Human female elf?

>>83443273
But Investment cycles etc.
If they see this underperformed by the time the paperback comes out they could have had a new book in the works but decide not to release it because of poor sales.

>>83443361
Yeah, its like Les Onze Mille Verges but on a fantasy setting

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Can't let this thread die.

Who would you cast as Melkor?

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>>83443924
>be me
>be very dark and pretty boring
>be hanging around with my bros
>dad says we are going to create a world by singing
>neat, I love singing
>singing starts, throw my sick jams
>everyone gets angry over it and say they are ugly
>fuck you guys I liek my jams
>dad kicks me out of the band wtf
>leave home and be emo about it singing by myself
>meet this big ass spider and hang around because at least she is some kind of company
>hear everyone talking about those amazing gems and want to see them too but I am banned
>friendly spider says will help me sneak in to have a look
>get in, turns out big spider is crazy bitch, kills the Two Trees and wants to eat the Silmarils
>wtf I didnt want this
>grab silmaris and run away, bitch spider chases me around
>manage to save 3 of them
>everyone thinks I stole them
>everyone hates me
>want to kill self but cant because immortal
>fuck this gay earth
>fuck everyone
>I just wanted to jam with my bros

>>83439794
>It's no different from the "TRUMP IS VULDAMURT"
That's the joke. Maybe you should get yourself checked for autism.

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Boromir was the best character

Is Gollum a tragic character?

>>83445250
He's potentially a great character in the books but doesn't get much exposition. Wonder how he'd feel if he discovered Aragorn was the one who fucked his life over though.

They should make a sitcom about Sam and his fat nagging wife

Bump for casting on Beren and Lúthien

>>83442993
>shitty little country populated by illiterate apes and market so tiny and feeble every publisher is constantly circling the drain and a single bad move could kill them
>why aren't they willing to publish genre fiction doorstoppers
Come to Serbia, I'll show you my collection of science fiction novels translated by Google because hiring a professional would cost 10 euros per page.

>>83437186
Another trash book by Christopher "butthurt" Tolkien

>>83444003
>this gayboy from arts & crafts class is crawling all over me

>>83448117
He's a good editor and he was right about keeping his father's legacy away from Hollywood

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>>83437186
Why didn't the Elves just shoot the Dwarves in the back and run away with the Arkenstone?

>>83437186
id really like a sequel to the lord of the rings that goes into aragorns tax policy and baby orc extermination camps

>>83437461

Eol and Maeglin for sure.

Probably Elwe Singollo, Melian obviously white, and luthien black.

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so what happened to hobbits when they died? was it a mystery like with humans?

>>83445250

>I would have followed you, my brother... My captain... My king.

>>83449472
Hobbits are just a branch of Men so they go to the same place.

>>83449504
ok then what happened with dwarves

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>>83439195
meh, context. lotr was very good and only fucked up the story a little bit. brought in probably millions if not tens of millions of new tolkien fans. chris needed to recognize this shit.

the hobbit...pic very related. complete rape and murder of the source material, michael bay tier. chris had every reason to hate this shit.

>>83449548
Now that's a mystery.

>>83443361
MANNED

>>83437566
/thread

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has lotr ever been more relevant?

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>>83440579
Angels don't poop, silly. It's explained in Paradise Lost. I assume Tolkienverse angels are roughly the same as ours. Also in Dogma it's shown they don't have dicks, so lewd fic writers BTFO. Galadriel doesn't poop because see pic.

Viggo made some good points about Jackson during an interview. Fellowship was absolute kino. Everything about it was well done. With each new film, Viggo said Jackson became more obsessed with CGI and action. More video game stunts and Legolas ignoring physics. Then the Hobbit happened. The Hobbit was basically a cartoon with the amount of CGI and over-the-top action. It seems like every other scene needed to have a retarded action sequence featuring an "omg some of the dwarves died off camera, jk they're okay" (like the mountain giant battle, the wolves and the tree, etc.). Complete shit-tier adaptation.

>>83449548
The Elves believe they just turn into stone. The Dwarves believe there's a place in the Hall of Mandos for them where their souls can hang out with Aule.

>>83449895
Speaking from experience my sister poops logs big enough to sink Númenor.

>>83441879
>>83442169
No, you dumb cucks. The whole franchise is liberal propaganda about accepting homosexuality and running away from the responsibilities of marriage. You see, that party they threw at the beginning of the movie was actually the wedding for Frodo, but him and his gay lover Sam ran away to destroy the wedding ring. Merry and Pippen were the groomsmen tasked with bringing them back. And the bad guy is a giant flaming vagina. Also Tolkien is one of the biggest cucks among fantasy writers. The hottest chick in the history of his universe has an interracial relationship. He tried to pretend he self-inserts as her bull but it's pretty obvious he self-inserts as the elves she cucked.

>>83449990
It's also possible that, being essentially longer-lived mortals, they just go to the same place as Men.

Alas, nobody ever asked where Ents or the talking and/or sentient animals (Eagles, ravens, spiders, and that random fox who wondered WTF was up with three Hobbits sleeping out of doors in the woods) go.

And then there's Tom Bombadil who's not going anywhere.

>>83446188
Yes

>>83446188
No

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>>83444003
>WAAH IMMORTAL BEING WITH EVERYTHING INCLUDING A QT3.14 MAIA BF WANT HUG

I actually wouldn't mind a new hobbit sometime if only it was completely faithful to the story and tone of the source.
Jackson's second trilogy is really a total failure as an adaptation. The book deserved much better

>>83447903
Idris Elba

>>83444003

>manage to save 3 of them

there were only ever 3

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>>83449999
Your sister must be a trap, but checked

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>>83437721
muh oath muthafucka

>>83444003
VERY dark lord corrupting at incredible hihg speed

>>83450380
Not a trap I swear.

>>83437186
How is this book? Bought it today. I've read the Silmirillion so I know the story

>>83450679
Apparently it's more like Unfinished Tales, a bunch of collected writing with commentary by CT, rather than Children of Hurin and a single complete narrative edited together.

>>83437186
No future adaptations, ever, please.

>>83438636
Heh

>>83449939
And Hobbit happened in the worst way, at the worst time, dumped on Jackson when he already wasn't interested in doing it, at the last minute, no time to extensively plan & prep like he did for years with LOTR even if he wanted to.

>>83441879
>>83442169
>>83450072
>Tolkien fucking HATED allegory & refused to implant his stories with it, preferring the reader be able to apply their own experiences to them in order to connect.
He even fucking went on a rant about it in one of the prefaces.

>>83439059
T. Bomb prancing around in the woods talking to rabbits and birds for nine hours, a trilogy. In the very end of the second movie he rescues some hobbits from a tree which takes about four minutes on screen, then it's back to prancing.

>>83446188
Maybe

>>83449939
Agree with fellowship being kino. There was so many scenes shot on location showing the landscape of new Zealand. I dont remember anything from the hobbit films that try to show how beautiful the scenery was. All it was cgi