Who was in the wrong here?

The guy on the left
These moves are criminal

the dog warned the spiclet. should have respected him now he got rabies and dies. his fault one hundered per cent.

I know this is a bait thread, but...

"Who was in the wrong here?" implies that it's possible for the dog to be "in the wrong." Even if Cesar did nothing wrong, the dog didn't bite just to be a dick, she bit because she felt threatened

Moving on to the actual answer to your question: Cesar was absolutely in the wrong here. If you watch that whole scene, the dog is clearly very nervous, and gives Cesar every possible signal of "please leave me alone" as possible. She even backs away from him and tries to get out of the interaction several times, but he keeps menacing over her and coming at her. She was afraid, he was physically intimidating her and even "attacked" her (I know his little jab probably wasn't "painful" but it was aggressive and scary to the dog,) and after giving him every opportunity to leave her alone and he still didn't let up (she knew he wasn't going to stop,) she bit him to defend herself.

A professional should not be making dogs react like this. Whether it was just Cesar's actions, or his actions plus the presence of the camera crew that were making the dog uncomfortable, he should've read her behavior better and knew not to put her in that situation and push her into biting.* The goal (especially for potentially "dangerous" dogs) should be to work under the dog's threshold and set them up for success; care should be taken not to create situations where a dog feels they have no choice but to bite.

*I say he "should've read her behavior better," but it is my opinion that Cesar knew the dog was feeling threatened and was intentionally making her lash out because it makes for ~dramatic TV~. Cesar intentionally makes dogs react in order to show what a "huge difference" his "training" made after he bullies the dogs into a state of learned helplessness. This is not only irresponsible (comes with the potential of a dog later lashing out/attacking without giving warning signs since those warning signs were previously punished,) but also unethical.

>>83400952
None of them

https://youtu.be/wlN6NsbWAQg

>>83400981
How can anyone be this insufferable?

I bet you read Dogs Weekly or something.

>asian man boiling dog alive.webm

shame /tv/ is a blue board. would end these fucking dog threads. dogs are vermins that need to die out. I tortured a dog when I was younger.

>>83401207
Actually, I subscribe Canine Quarterly.

>>83401265
>dog are vermins
Don't you mean cats

>>83401265
>le attention-seeking edgelord xD

>>83401265
t. severely autistic and/or serial killer

>>83400997
top ten anime villains that become allies

>>83400981

this.

cesar should be put down. he's an idiot. his stupid genes should not be allowed to pollute humanity's future.

>>83400952
Dog owner

>>83401265

cancer vermin detected

>>83400975
Actually he ended up training the dog fine, theres a follow up video where the dogs all friendly

>>83400981
unironically this

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>>83400952

>>83401540
the dog didnt become friendly, it was beaten into submission. dogs and other animals understand one language, and thats the language of power. as soon as that dog see any sort of weakness, it will revert back to being aggressive.

When I was a kid, my grandma had a medium sized dog who also was not trained to allow anyone near him if he had food, and my stupid parents always brought him a bloody lamb chop or some such, then he would just lie down in the yard somewhere and chew on it and nobody would be allowed to go anywhere near him or they would definitely get growled at or even attacked. I remember he once grabbed a cookie I had left on a bench and chased me off with teeth and everythin when I tried to take it back (not to eat it anyways but just out of principle). I always assumed it was normal that dogs would always defend their food but I heard it a couple of times at school and internet that a trained dog would allow humans to take food from them which makes complete sense, having a psychotic mutt around that will defend everything he sees as his food to the death is just beyond stupid.

>>83401540

the dog is just pretending to be friendly. dogs know that revenge is a dish best served cold.

>>83400981
If a dog kills a small child we should blame the child?

>>83401540

and did not show what happened prior to follow up video. they could have electro-shocked doggo, got another doggo that looks the same or forcefed doggo with weed and horse tranquilizers.

>>83401659
no, the parents

>>83401659
In that case, you should blame whoever let the child near the dog.

>>83401659

the child's parent, imbecile. if an escalator maims a child do you blame the escalator?

>>83401659

#justice4harambe

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Dogs are pack animals. Aggressive dogs feel like they are the leaders of their owners. This is unacceptable. Cesar dominates them and assumes the leader role, then teaches the owners to do the same. Very seldom does this mean harmful physical contact, most of the time he just acts dominant and confident around the dog, at most making a hissing sound, or stabbing his finger into their neck which makes the dog feel like as if another dog bit their neck, forcing them to submit. Since dogs are pack animals, once the dog accepts he's not the leader he is a content and happy dog. And the owners are happy to have a nice and obedient dog too.

>>83401592
They're dumb cunts that can be broken down far more than that.
I assume you've never owned a dog.

You can break a pitbull until it's terrified of a Chihuahua

>>83401265
>*sick guitar riff*

>>83401793

of course a cat would say that.

>>83401659
Apparently yes according to the comments section of every facebook article on pitbulls attacking children.

>>83401721
>>83401735
>>83401742
>blame the kid's parents not the dog owner

Dog owners, everyone! Mental issues.

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>>83401805

yes.

you can also break an anon until it's terrified of a squirrel

where do you live, anon? let me demonstrate on you.

Honestly

What I see from Cesar is that he just acts the way a dog would to another dog in every situation. all of his psychology is based off how dogs do it to each other

>>83401850

#justice4harambe

>>83401267
>he doesn't read The Monthly Mutt

>>83401721
>>83401735
>>83401742
lmao

>>83401850
>blames escalator

blithering idiot

>>83401899
>>83401899
Exactly

>>83401918

immature teenager detected

>>83400981
Fuck dogs

>>83401934
>if an escalator maims a child do you blame the escalator

Yes, you blame the escalator, or the people responsible for it! What world do you come from where escalators normally are maiming death traps that are unsafe for kids?

>>83400952
The dog
Dogs are evil
I hate dogs

>>83401899
>act like an animal not like a human

Cesar is a fake.

>>83401265
OH I'M SAYIN' IT!

>>83401877
Gonna be hard to get squirrels past quarantine.
You don't have to pretend to be retarded, just dedicate another second to your attention span.

The dogs that pounce on weaker pack members are those that are either very close to feral breeds, or are adopted out of a life where pack dynamics exist.

If you raise a puppy you can basically eliminate aggression from its psyche until you start torturing the fuckers.

>>83401978

stop molesting innocent animals, you sick deviant

>>83401981

cat propaganda

>>83401979

there was a kid that climbed over railing and fell off escalator. just today there was a kid on news who poked his finger into the gap between escalator steps. in both cases, parent wasn't paying attention to kid.

>>83401963
jokes on you my 20th birthday was last week

>>83402054

something is wrong with your reading comprehension

>>83402003
>Cesar is a fake
nothing about it is fake, the psychology is real.

there are just much better ways of doing it tho. and you get 1000x the performance out of your dogs when you teach them the right way to think about how to get what they want

>>83401979
China would be one such place

>>83402135

for some strange reason, china has a lot of kids who fall off windows (or are discovered dangling on a window ledge) of tall residential buildings.

>>83400952
dog original owner

>>83401653
thats why you dont use terror to dominate a dog

>>83401981
You've only met absolutely shit dog owners. I hate those cocksuckers too.

>>83402184
Poor design and population density I'd imagine.

The image I have in my mind right now was a woman carrying her toddler up an escalator, got to the top, stepped forwards, protective plate fell away, she got pulled underneath, she basically threw her kid forward to the shocked people ahead of her, people tried to tug her out but machines are stronger and she got pulled down and died.

kill all pitbulls

>>83401659
blame the creature without intelligence.

So, yes.

Problem with dogs is that everyone who gets their first dog is a novice dog trainer, they can and often will completely fuck up raising it properly.
Then if the dog they get happens to be intrinsicly aggressive and violen accidents happen.

>>83402234

the escalator mishaps (and one revolving door mishap) i hear about in the news always involve a child doing something they're not supposed to do like inserting finger in the gap between steps in an escalator or climbing over handrail or pushing head in area forward of a revolving door getting stuck in door.

>>83402269
I've only known one pitbull my whole life, friend of mine in high school had a female pit named Sugar.

... Who for some reason was only interested in humping my leg when I was over. Yeah man, those pits. REALLY gotta look out for those. God help me if I didn't fight her off as adamantly as I did, or I'd have lost a leg to that lockjawed puss.

If you raise a dog without beating the shit out of him sometime you raise him wrong. (like childs)

>>83400952

Society.

That dog would never be what they made him to be.

>>83400952

the cat was in the wrong. it's always the cat.

>>83402332
Oh for sure, I wasn't aiming to contradict anything anyone has said, just literally answering the question where escalators are that shit, and the clearest answer to that is China.

Whats the point in arguing, dogs
>contribute more to society than cats
>have helped humanity more
>are more similar to humans than cats
>on the whole less aggressive, but obviously far more dangerous when aggressive
>are factually smarter
>are more fun
>are more loving
>do not give you brain parasites
>are not effeminate
>encourage not being an autistic neet

>>83402412
You forgot
>Dogs have bigger dicks than cats

Which I honestly think that alone settles this shit.

>>83402412
That's the thing, dogs are respectable as being able to perform tasks. They're more successful as humans than our more mentally challenged cousins.

But very few people need working dogs. They just want pets because of whatever stupid reason they happen to have. As a slave creature that lives a pointless existence for base desires of companionship, there isn't much difference between cats and dogs. But then there isn't much difference between cats, dogs or a plush doll in the role that pets fill.

>>83402412
I got a cat as well as a few doggos and the cat is by far the biggest cunt of them all. It'll walk up to me purring, wait for me to pet it and then it claws the shit out of me. Then it uses its back claws to claw the shit out of me some more. It somehow learned how to mimic a humans cry too so whenever it wants to go outside at 3 in the morning it just makes a guttural noise that sounds like an autistic child going "HEWALLP" and I hate it so much. fuck cats

>>83402412
>contribute more to society than cats
Cats got rid of mice for generations, they can also pretty much feed themselves if you let them go outside
>on the whole less aggressive, but obviously far more dangerous when aggressive
lmao

>>83402668
>they can also pretty much feed themselves if you let them go outside

cat owners are lazy landwhales who insist cats need to freerange because they're too lazy to walk their cats

>>83402688
Either way owning one or the other is pathetic.

>>83402714
>cat owners are lazy landwhales who insist cats need to freerange because they're too lazy to walk their cats
More like cats have the agency to not attack humans and make a mess when they are outside

>>83402184
>fall

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>>83402688
>tfw trying to scratch cats stomach

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Fuck all of you.

>>83402767

ha!

cats poop their extremely smelly poop everywhere i want to kill them in the most painful way

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>>83402930
>not teaching the cat to use a litter box
no one to blame but yourself, retard

>>83402930
Why dogfags are always the edgiest the most butthurt people ever?

>>83402978
>provides litter box for other people's cats

beta maggot detected

>>83402835
>>83402688
Cats won't do shit if they trust and like you just like dogs. It's a bit harder to earn a Cat's trust, though.

>>83403020
>thinks people who don't like stray cats pooping on their porch are edgy butthurt

filthy cesspool dweller detected

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>>83403065

cats only trust no one not even other cats. their only loyalty is to their stomach.

>>83403060
Who the fuck are you quoting you stupid cuck? Also, nice reddit spacing. Its time to go back.

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>cats
>dogs
you plebs

>>83403103
>he has shit on his porch
pathetic

>>83403103
>living in a third world shit hole where stray cats are a problem
lmao @ your life kiddo

>>83403137
>no reading comprehension

redditter detected

>>83403198
Try finishing your ESL classes first, you shitskin cuck.

>>83403164
>>83403187

covfefe

>>83402668
>eating mice is an equal contribution to that of dogs
lol?

>>83403236
>triggered illiterate baboon

>>83400981
Wow, how do I give this guy gold???

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>>83401267
>>83401905

>>83403317
>uneducated brown redditor

>>83400981
Karen is that you

>>83403304
>eating parasites that consume your food is not an contribution
lol?
I lived in farm myself for some time, dogs are mostly useless food consumers, (they sometimes kill chickens too) while you hardly need to feed cats and they kill mice for you.

>>83403367

go back to mexico, illiterate redditor

>>83400981
> implies that it's possible for the dog to be "in the wrong.
When a Pitbull mutilated a baby, the dog could be in the wrong

>burrito twink vs (white) man's best friend

made me think

>>83403304
>killing disease carrying vermin which leads to thousands of lives being saved and prevent spread of disease
how the fuck do dogs contribute again? helping people hunt? though it might be harder, it can still be done without dogs.

>>83401742
>inanimate objects and dogs are comparable
>b-but wait! dogs are people too! j-just not when they are doing bad things! they din do nuffin!

You people and your nature's niggers.

>my friend has a big ass labrador that every time I come over just waggles his tail, wait for me to sit down and then puts his head on my lap to pet him
>other friend had york that goes spasmatic,keeps barking, biting my jeans/shoes and growling nonstop

Little dogs are such garbage.

>>83401265
nice you got everybody to reply to you what thinskinned faggots most people shouldnt have doggos

>>83400981
This. The thread can now pass on to the afterlife.

>>83403456
right back at you Juan

>>83400981
>>83403469
I grew up on a farm, I just shot any dog that was aggressive towards familiar people or people it should have known were permitted. Instincts like the ones on display in this situation need to be culled.

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>>83401793
Why are people still posting? This was /thread

>>83401265
What a poof. "Oh i'm hard picking on a dog"

Go naked head to.head with a pitbull and see who wins, then post a webm of that buddy ;)

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>>83403547
I second this.

>Big dogs are for the most part simple minded and tend to be very lovable

>Little dogs are little cunts that never stop barking, bite a lot and everyone that I know owns one shit and piss inside even though they are house broken

The day of the leash can't come soon enough.

>>83403469
>>83400952

the dog was in the wrong. dog bit hand instead of the idiot's face. dog should have learned how to use sledgehammer and hit idiot's face with a sledgehammer.

>>83400981
>after he bullies the dogs into a state of learned helplessness.

dogs and wolves are all about this though.
what's the difference between "learned helplessness" and an established role in the pecking order?

and if all he was doing was making dramatic tv, how is he so competent and effective at this form of bullying?

as far as punishing warning signs, ive got nothin.
seems fair to assume a dog that's learned helplessness wouldn't accidentally lash out at his leader.

>>83401659
Depends on the situation. Most likely you should blame the dog's owners, however it might be best to blame the child's parents if they are letting the kid fuck with the dog. Even if the kid is fucking with the dog in anything but the most violent ways though, the dog should not bite and the primary blame is on the owner's shoulders.

>>83403985
It's because no one bothers training them. If you have even a dog the size of a medium poodle, a bite can do serious damage especially to a child. Training them is a necessity since walking them will be a very difficult chore if you don't, and letting them off leash to run (which they need to be healthy, unlike little dogs as much) will result in them taking off or fucking with other people/animals.

With little dogs though, they can't do shit. Worst case scenario is that you get a small bite which draws blood that is almost "cute". You can overpower them while walking them, and they don't need to be let off the leash (even though you really should). This means that most people don't even give a shit about training them.

>>83400981
This.

Bravo, anon.

>>83403666

farm dogs tend to get shot by the neighbors

>>83403065
It's not necessarily a matter of trust, it's a matter of them playing. Some cats don't give a fuck, but a lot of the times cat etiquette dictates that going for their stomach is an invitation to wrestle. You can see this amongst cats themselves too, they'll be grooming each other and all of the sudden they're chasing each other around and trying to murder the other one.

>>83400952
IIRC the family had a little baby and Cesar had to see what the dog was capable of, otherwise he left a little baby at risk, so he was glad te be bitten.

Could have been another episode but I thought it was this one.

>>83400952
the cameraman for insulting both and starting the fight

>>83400981

>she

i'm sorry, but did you just assume their gender?