>THE OLD GUARD HAVE BROKEN

>>83379515
objectively the most retarded moment of this entire film
cinematography was fucking gorgeous, but editing, at times, is ridiculously bad

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>>83379515

THEY'VE BROKEN THE CONDITIONING

>scenes women won't understand

>>83379515
>the old guard never actually broke
shit movie, inaccurate movie

>MERDE!

>>83379694
Why? That's what happened in real life.

>>83380306
Wrong. They cried "La Garde Recule!". Which is literally "The Guard Retreats".

>>83380306
yea they did

If I ever saw 30,000 men run a race before

>mfw Wellington requested 10,000 longbowmen to fight in the Battle of Waterloo
>mfw he was denied

Didn't matter. Good ol' Jack 'Mad' Churchill killed a German with his longbow in WW2.

>>83380484
>>83380500
No, the Middle Guard broke. The 1st and 2nd Guard Grenadiers, the 'actual' Old Guard, did not.

>>83380788
oh ok my bad

>>83380788
They were literally called The Old Guard. The term Middle Guard was a term nobody used bar the soldiers themselves trying to be superior. The 1st and 2nd were 12 year servicemen and the others were 4 year. They were still called The Old Guard. The Young Guard were made up of deserters, volunteers and shit.

But if you want to play the semantics game. They still fucking broke, according to Marshall Ney himself

>"There remained to us still four squares of the Old Guard to protect the retreat. These brave grenadiers, the choice of the army, forced successively to retire, yielded ground foot by foot, till, overwhelmed by numbers, they were almost entirely annihilated. From that moment, a retrograde movement was declared, and the army formed nothing but a confused mass. There was not, however, a total rout, nor the cry of sauve qui peut, as has been calumniously stated in the bulletin."

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>TFW you've lost your leg

>>83380484
did you even read my post? i was complaining about the editing - did you even see this scene? it's horrible

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Which was more kino /tv/ Waterloo, or Sharpe's Waterloo?

https://strawpoll.com/c76dz4b

>>83381276
>"My God sir... I think I've lost my leg"
>"y-you too"

>>83381396
Waterloo is more epic. Sharpe has more feels.

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>Waahaaa! The French champagne has always been celebrated for its excellence. There is a California champagne by Paul Masson, inspired by that same French excellence. It's fermented in the bottle and, like the best French champagne, is vintage dated, so Paul Masson....

>>83379515
Entire Old Guard and Young Gaurd except 1 batalion that served as perosnal guard for the Nap was fighting the prussians. The final atack was made by medium guard but british are cucks that got their asses saved by dutch and purssians

>>83380484
The thing is it was the medium guard not old guard which along wiht the young guard was fighting prussians

>>83381249
When people think of the Old Guard, they think of the 1st and 2nd Imperial Guard Grenadiers, the ones with the tall bearskins. The Middle Guard at Waterloo were the random veterans from other regiments slapped together and formed into the 3rd and 4th. They didn't even have the bearskin caps. They were definitely not the Old Guard.

The actual Old Guard didn't take part in the assault on the British line, they were mostly fighting the Prussians in Plancenoit.

Also, a fighting retreat after the battle has ended is not a rout.

>>83381249
>they still broke
>quote plainly says they didn't break

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>>83381396
>Waterloo on an ITV budget

Compare the cavalry charge scenes FFS.

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>>83380645
The debate about bringing back longbows was going on throughout the Napoleonic wars. It would have made the British infantry absolutely invincible.

Unfortunately there just wasn't time to train an army of bowmen, so they settled for the musket instead.

>inb4 the British infantry were invincible anyway

>>83384534
>muh bowfags

Literally the most overrated weapon in history. Here's a fun fact: the French actually faced bow armed Tatars that served in the Russian army as irregular cavalry. They found them a complete joke who accomplished nothing.

>>83379515
Am I getting monitored? 5 minutes ago I was listening to La victoire est a nous and now this thread pops up

>>83381780
>medium guard

>>83384599
>not knowing the difference beween a trained English longbowman and some pissy-arsed horse archer

Ask any French knight, circa 1415.

>>83384823
They weren't nearly as cool as the Large Guard

>>83384823
Kek. They're brown on the outside but still pink on the inside.

>>83379515
Waterloo didn't even fucking matter. Even if Napoleon had won he still would have had to face a far larger Austrian/Russian force that was heading for France. And hell , it wouldn't have even knocked Britain and Prussia out of the war, since both had plenty of more forces at home (the "British" army at Waterloo of course being mostly foreign allies). 1814 had shown Napoleon could win all the local tactical victories he wanted, it wouldn't stop an overwhelming invasion of France.

>>83384908
>le agincourt memes
Fucking britbongers. Read some actual scholarship on the effectiveness on bows compared to guns (hint: you better speak German) rather than your circlejerking nationalism retardness.

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>>83385151
>implying a musket could hit a barn door at 30 paces
Why do you think they massed all the infantry together and fired in volleys? So they would have a chance of hitting something, faggot.

Longbows >>>> muskets.