Alien: Covenant Thread

Everything wrong with Covenant:
-The first scene is cringe as fuck when he walks over to the statue and looks up to say his name. It's a lazy and overly simple way to establish that he was created, yet he is perfection so that he will eventually rebel. I absolutely loved his hesitation of listening to Weyland when he asks to bring him tea however. This was way more subtle and already instills a menacing tone, which should be held throughout the movie, but sadly we do not get this.
-Set the captain immediately on fire, sure, plot device to make a more insecure and naive/impulsive person the new leader. The woman cries, why should we feel sorry for her? Why should we be invested in her loss? We don't know these people. It sets the tone for not caring for the crew.
-The entire ship doesn't have energy because one piece of the entire sail is busted? This is supposed to be high tech shit? Why is there orchestral music playing for a mundane task like fixing the solar shield by cutting a steel cord and hanging a new cord on it? This entire scene is overblown.
-Take Me Home, REALLY? People think this is going to be a classic in .. 87 years? Give me a break. Even if it will be a classic (I guess I just don't like the song), it's a poor choice imo. It's probably a David setup, but who knows at this point, right?
-Why COMPLETELY ignore your mission's objective because you have a hunch? Wouldn't it be suspicious to find a message like that? Why do you care about your crew not wanting to go back in cryosleep when you have this massive mission responsibility with clear content on how to execute it. Surely the insecurities of one person shouldn't result in a massive logical flaw like that?
-Why don't they wear their helmets when entering a new world? Sure, it's breathable, but why should you assume there aren't any micro-organisms that can fuck you up? There's already vegetation!! T H I N K.
-You're really not able to knife the creature when he's on your face? Come on woman.
(1/x)

>>83264634
Cont.
-Why does this woman in the ship after the guy was infected shoot a shotgun inside her ship (which can cause malfunction) and doesn't she run outside to find her crew members? She'll have a better chance of shooting it, there's only one way where it can come out of AND she can potentially find immediate back up. But no, she stays inside of the ship and blows it up instead. NICE.
-That small beast is resilient as fuck. And grows like a motherfucker. HOW? In every movie before this they didn't grow that fast. They grew fast, but not. that. fast. I'm pretty sure they fucked him up, yet they didn't. I'm pretty sure I saw them putting bullets inside of it, but whatever. Perhaps they didn't. I guess I can let this one slide because it's nighttime, it's a weird thing attacking and it's strong as fuck.
-David runs super duper fast into the dome. The rest is like: wtf is this shit? But they're slow as fuck, who knows what else is out there. One thing wrecked half your crew, better chill the fuck out following the strange man (where you have no knowledge of) in a very, very slow pace.
-Boring shit inside the dome, no connections established, Tennessee is arguing with the rest of the crew on Covenant, because he's emotionally invested, but the rest of the (pilots I guess?) are sensible by not letting him go down with the giant ass ship in an ionic storm that can wreck it.
-People wandering off one by one. Why? Stupid David - Walter one on one. Bad sexual joke (if it was one at all, or just bad choice of words, of my mind being too sexual too fast). It's supposed to establish a bond between the characters or a rivalry or to show that David is superior or whatever, or that humans are lesser than the synthetics, but it's just a clumsy way of portraying that with the flute playing. It was like two people going on their very first date ever.
(2/4)

>>83264659
Cont.
-How does shooting and screaming of people not echo through where the gathering point was? Why does the captain trust David after he's shown to peacefully "communicate" with the beast? Why do people keep wandering off 1 by 1?
-How does David make the eggs? Did he sculpt them out of organic material? Where did he get that organic material? How does he perform genetic engineering and/or molecular studies?
-The goddamn part where I completely stopped taking this movie serious was when the chestburster stood up and mimicked David's posture. This scene could've been great, but they completely butchered it with that kind of imagery. Yes, I get it, David is the creator, but you do not need to have the chestburster mimic the God of the species to establish that. This part made me realize the series has become a mockery of itself.
-Somehow the reasoning of Tennessee gets through the 2 copilots. Why? How? He hasn't made any arguments other than: we need to save them. Why does it work now when it didn't before? What has convinced them? It's lazy plot progression that's what it is.
-The synthetic fight should've been portrayed better, or at least the obvious win of David pretending to be Walter should've been way more subtle. The "twist" wasn't a twist at all, even if he played along until the very end. Hollywood, have you forgotten how to make something entirely believable?
-Non suspenseful shower scene. This could've been waaaaaay more dark. Instead you get the blood from the medical bay (how does the alien get out? wouldn't something like that cause for immediate quarantine of the subject? wouldn't they suspect that the synthetic isn't Walter but David or that there is at least a traitor on board?), transitioning into the xenomorph getting behind the couple. Of course there needs to be an obligatory hint at the sexual nature of the entire thing, but it's -again- portrayed so badly. Just stick your tail in her pussy, yeh.
(3/4)

>>83264693
-The typical: blow it out into space logic. Seen that, done that. It's old. I liked how she jumped out of the way and it got impaled, but that scene was derivative at best.
-How does David not play along with her when she asks about the cabin? Is he like: wtf you on about? Is it difficult for him to just say yes? Wouldn't you be able to abort the onset of cryosleep from the inside if things were about to go awry? Seems like very bad design of a cryopod to be honest. Was it his plan to reveal himself as the true mastermind of it all when she drifts into sleep? Very confusing.
-Why do logs only get sent when someone sends them? You'd think that a ship with this important mission would automatically send everything that happens to home base so people can evaluate what's actually going on instead of relying on 14? crew members and a robot to take care of things and then report about it. Seems extremely flimsy to me. You'd think that an override by David would trigger a signal to home, but whatever right?
-What were the names of the people of the crew again?
-I will not accept that David is the creator of this species. I thought the xenomorphs were an ancient race that wiped out planet after planet by infesting living things like a parasite. Not like this.

Things that Covenant did right:
-The initiation of the scene when the guy gets sick and put in the med bay. The woman gets locked in and dies as well. It's all good until the point she decides to shoot inside of the ship. There was real tension. The cries for help and for the crew to come had me invested in the character.
-The CGI, ofcourse, was great. But I didn't like all that drool coming out of the xenomorph. Just seemed a bit excessive.
I guess that's about it. It was all bombastic over the top, yet hollow dialogue and gestures, thematics and symbolism.

>>83264544
Also let's not forget:
>second in command talks about how he was not trustworthy to get the captains job because he's religious/christian
>it's also insinuated the only religious person from the crew was probably molested during childhood and refers to it as "meeting the devil once"

Okay I messed up with my post, it wasn't comedian John C. Reilly who was in it, it was comedian Danny McBride who was in it. Still a comedian nevertheless and an awful casting choice.

>>83264634
>>83264659
>>83264693
>>83264731
nice stuff my guy, but, did you like Daniels? how do you feel about her? would you take her in a date?

>>83264634
>-Take Me Home, REALLY?
implying this wasnt Ridley kino: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFRjP_J0o3U

>>83265205
Ridley Scott-
>“There will be another one before we kind of literally and logically, clockwise, back into the rear back head of [the original] ‘Alien,'”

This is how people with dementia talk

>>83264777

What gets me is that Scott had literally kino gold on his hands that he could weave into a brilliant modern day scifi classic but instead we got two movies full of stale horror shlock tropes and characters

>>83264544
>The ending to this movie was easily the best ending of the whole series and most movies that have come out in recent years, it left the whole audience with their jaws dropped.
sarchasm? it was painfully obvious what was going to happen, as soon as they encounter David and see he is glitchy.

>>83264544

the ending is objectively the worst part of the movie

zero tension from the second they get back on the ship. even with the supposed twist that walter is now david, which is broadcasted very clearly many times before the reveal

>>83266629
I knew exactly what was happening when we didnt see either android explicitly die.

The huge shocking twist for me was the ending. David was smart and he didnt reveal the lie until everyone was in their cryo chamber.

I thought for sure somebody was going to catch on and stop him.

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>>83264544
>The ending to this movie was easily the best ending of the whole series and most movies that have come out in recent years, it left the whole audience with their jaws dropped.

>>83266779
Seriously, when I went after that ending there was a lot of "HOLY FUCKING SHIT" being said as they left. Even if I expected the switch, it was well done.