Don't mind me, i'm just pirating this pizza.

>>83260451
>Canadian bacon

No thanks.

so the pizza will still be there after you leave? go ahead

>>83260639
If you knew that then why are you crying and peeing yourself?

pirate one out of the dumpster at papa johns or little caesars for me

how is this the same argument if the pizza is physical, pirating involves copies of the original. So in order for this to make sense, you'd have to have copies of pizza pies, and the original still exists to be sold

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don't mind me just pirating lisa

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>>83260762
The point is piracy is theft, so stealing this pizza is piracy.

Just as kidnapping this kid is stealing this kid is pirating this kid.

Piracy is morally wrong, please don't post obviously false analogies to discredit this position OP.

Hey, I still pirate. But why bullshit? You know that copying intellectual property is a form of theft. It deprives the owners of sales that otherwise might have been made.

>>83260827
I was going to give you a legitimate reply but you're a tripfag so nevermind

>>83260451
what kind of crazy situation is this stock photo for?

>>83260857
So long as my (You):post ratio remains positive, that's all that matters.

>>83260877
To show you that piracy hurts the pizza industry

Regardless of what you say or not, 4chan, if you have the money to support a good movie please do so.

>>83260929
you can't tell me what to do, shlomo

>>83260827
>implying you would buy overpriced Blu-ray or legally download movie otherwise
>implying you're not getting exposed to advertising with product placement

Piracy doesn't apply to things like this. Piracy is theft, but that doesn't mean theft is piracy. This is not a difficult concept to grasp. Pirating pizza would involve making a copy of it (not cooking another pizza, that is just more production) and taking it without paying for it.

>>83260827
Watching movies with your friends and family that didn't pay for it is also morally wrong then.
Checkmate.

>>83260976
I'm not implying that I would, all of the time. But if piracy wasn't available I'm sure there are movies I would have spent money on rather than just pirate them. Off the top of my head, Fury Road, Gone Girl and The Force Awakens are three movies I've seen multiple times since their intitial release, but I watched them by pirating. If the option wasn't available I probably would have bought them.

If that's the case for even a single movie, by even a single person, then piracy must be wrong because it deprived the owners of intellectual property of a sale they would have made but for piracy.

I pay for a PSVue subscription and then I torrent my shit anyway

So I'm paying for it but I hate commercials and it's just easier to torrent them. Best of both worlds.

>>83261042
You're not giving them extra copies of it that weren't paid for.

>>83261057
Wait you get advertisements in your subscription service?

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Dont panic honkey i's jus piratin' yo life bitch.

>order a pizza
>tell them something is wrong
>pizza is remade for you
>go home and eat pizza
>first pizza sits on a heating rack for a couple hours ending up in a dumpster
>go back and get your other pizza

is this a form of piracy?

>>83261078
You gotta buy a blu ray to rip it.
You can't keep movies you're streaming either.

>>83260805
But the point for the pizza/kid can't be the same as movies if they don't have the same results

Theft leads to mass depletion, piracy doesn't.
People who pirate aren't likely to pay for any of it if piracy didn't exist

>>83261042
Incorrect, because what makes piracy wrong is the sale prevention. It will never be the case that there's a movie or album you otherwise would have purchased, but you knew that a friend of yours would play that movie or music for you freely at one point in the future.

Additionally, the owners consent to the private exhibition of films in making the sale, so they do so with the permission of the owners of the IP.

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>>83261120
Stand down, Tyrone

>>83261136
And only a few people do. The rest download the copies of it. It's just stupid and people do it either because they're poor or they're greedy. Those are the only 2 reasons people pirate.

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>>83261139
Well in that case
>kidnap child
>do what you want with it
>let the child go free to find his way home
>the child was never depleted, therefore it's piracy

checkmate'd

>buy a pizza and pay for it
>tell the guy my friends want a pizza just like mine too
>he makes ten more pizzas for me
>walk out without paying because I already paid for the first and they're all the same
Piratefags will defend this.

>>83261139
>People who pirate aren't likely to pay for any of it if piracy didn't exist
I don't think this is a plausible proposition, specifically the "any" part. It would be more accurate to say "people who pirate aren't likely to pay for most of it if piracy didn't exist". I'm sure there are movie purchases you would have made if piracy didn't exist, unless you're not a fan of movies at all.

>>83261249
Can't argue with that.

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>>83260669
>fbi is the gun-toting thug
>((((((((pirate)))))))) is being needlessly victimized by greedy multimedia conglomerates' thugs for victimless ((((((((((crimes))))))))))
Looks about right

>order a pizza
>eat most of the pizza
>call the pizza store
>tell them something is wrong
>they send a remade pizza
>they don't want the old one back since you ate it you fucking animal

is this a form of piracy?

>>83261249
Stop saying checkmate when it obviously ain't

Now that the child is gone, there's permanent mental damage or parents are scared shitless + bunch of state fees for search

Piracy will lead to minor sales loss, but nothing up to scale of what that actual real depletion would've

Also taking something and giving it back when you are done isn't even close to what piracy actually is

>>83261302
that isn't the same as pirating because pirating does not cost the producer time and resources such as making 10 pizzas. fucking jew

>Anne Erin shows up
This thread is officially kino

>>83261359
It's a mutual exchange, the parents for the time being don't have to pay for the child's food, shelter, clothing, or bathing needs.

It evens out.

>call up a pizza place
>tell them you have a "buy one get one" coupon
>they don't verify it
>only pay for one pizza

is this a form of pirzzcy?

>>83260827
intellectual property is the biggest spook I've ever heard of. also tripfag get of my board

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don't mind me just pirating your time

>>83261415
But paying for all of those things will usually take weeks and months to be significant in comparison to sales loss

If you are saying holding a child hostage for months before release is justified in terms of piracy, you are wrong.
The effects are much larger, and what you described are, in fact by definition, kidnapping, not piracy

>>83261539
When parents have a children they are indirectly consenting the possibility of the child getting kidnapped.

>>83261562
have children*

Copyright is there to protect people from having someone else make money from their labor.
Bootlegging or selling someone elses work for a profit is theft.
Copying their work for personal use is just utilitarian.

>get carryout at pizza place during rush time
>order a simple pizza
>pick up your pizza but tell them you said you ordered something else
>they remake your pizza and comp the first one

is this a form of piracy?

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>>83261562
>When parents have a children they are indirectly consenting the possibility of the child getting kidnapped.

>>83261631
please stop

>>83261562
I honestly don't think you understand what we're debating.

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>>83261637
You know i'm right, Bill.

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>>83260451
OP BTFO

>>83260451
stop stealing the merchant

>>83261763
but he intended to originally pay for it.

had piracy not been an option he would've came back later with more money.

Your logic is flawed, piracy is theft

>>83261807
>why dont poor people just buy more money

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>>83261865
>what is investing

>>83261807
>At store
>Black Friday
>Everyone wants the same movie because it's good and cheap
>Only 1 copy left
>Only you and a younger, poor boy who's only option to get this movie is now is left at the store
>You decide to let him have it because you know how to pirate

VS

>Instead of paying, you sneak the movie out for free
>Now the boy will never have it because he can never afford it except for on black friday

>>83261891
Well explain what it is to us if that's the cure for poverty.

>>83261982
>At store
>Black Friday
>Everyone wants the same movie because it's good and cheap
>Only 1 copy left
>Only you and a younger, poor boy who's only option to get this movie is now is left at the store
>You decide to let him have it because you know how to pirate

VS

>Instead of paying, you sneak the movie out for free
>Now the boy will never have it because he can never afford it except for on black friday

VS

>letting the boy have it
>coming back when it's in stock at a later time and buying it for full price

VS

>joining the boy for movie night

>>83262044
I'd rather download the movie than step in a store during black Friday.

>>83261891
>JUST BUY MORE MONEY

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>>83261998
>>83262100
>convert your burger bux into a bong bux
>charge people a premium to convert their burger bux into your bong bux
>literally buy money

BTFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>order delivery
>guy shows up with pizzas
>pull a gun on him
>"gimme that pizza whiteboy"
>he leaves the pizza and runs

is this a form of piracy?

>>83262348
why does the person with the gun have to be black

>>83261865
>if someone can't afford something they should be entitled to receive it for free
Die lefty

>>83262044
>joining the boy for movie night

BUUURP ey, kid *hicccc* how 'bout u n me go watch that movie togetha, EHHH? BUUUURP that way i can spare me money and get some nice, fresh young boy puss- friend. anyway im 34

>>83262387

The post doesn't state this. Why do you assume he's black?

Only actual sub intelligent hood niggers think that theft is only stealing physical things from a physical store.

>>83262425
>>"gimme that pizza whiteboy"

>>83262444
>Sub intelligent hood nigger
You just described yourself
Look up any common definition of theft

>>83262489
>assuming race and gender in 2017

>>83262407
*burrrrrp* lets watch that movie morty

>>83262705
well that guy is assuming the pizza delivery man is white

>order pizza
>delivery guy is black
>tell them you never saw him
>they send you a free pizza
>he loses his job