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friendly and civilised discussion edition
previously on /got/ >>83245356
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>>83252070
I just hope the trollocs don't look too fake.
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>>83252070
not a looker in the bunch

sad
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>>83252070
Yet another cancer thread.
God how long can we endure this?!
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This is the only real god in the whole series, repent and say something nice to him
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Drogon is the best character.
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Based NK
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Why is no one making /asoiaf/ thread on /lit/? /lit/ is the right place for a /asoiaf/ threads
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thank you OP
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>>83252139
something nice to him
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>>83251708
>People actually think the Anti-War, author who has a history of distain towards inherited positions is going to let Dany live at the end of Spring

But Dany doesn't inherit anything. She's taking it all with fire and blud.
The fact that (if you take that side over that other side) on some line of succession she would be #1, doesn't really mean shit unless the throne is given to her because she's #1.
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George RR Martin
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Euron King
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>>83252139
I would like to watch him get raped by the mountain
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>>83252139
i hope this retarded faggot character dies and all his retarded faggot fans off themselves in pain.
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>>83252234
why don't you write next book faggot?
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Reposting from last thread:

So what do you think was in the dornish letter that made aegon the conquer bleed? Was it possibly them saying they knew of his infertility and that aenys wasn't his real son? That rhaenys was being reeked? That they would deliever rhaenys ashes to dragonstone? Maybe that she had fallen for another? That could explain the targ features in house dayne.


But one thing is clear, aegon was either infertile or had low fetility. So if aenys was his any threat to him would freak him the hell out but if it wasn't that means all targshits after him were bastards. With maegor being a magic spawned creature
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>>83252255
Just like God king bran, we are immortal
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>>83252252
>>83252255
>friendly and civilised discussion edition
pls be nice
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>>83252235
Can't wait for the Silence wrecking Yara and Dorne shits in season seven
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GEMMA WHELAN CONFIRMED /OURGIRL/

>If Gemma could kill a character, it'd be Sansa.
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Do you guys agree with this meme?
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>>83252312
Suddenly gemma is my new favorite cast member
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>>83252312
>If Alfie could kill one character it would be Arya
THANK GOD FINALLY SOMEONE IN THE CAST WHO ISN'T STARKFAG!
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>>83252323
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YAAAAS QUEEEN
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>>83252312
Damn these two are going into the absokutely based folder with Finn jones and Kristian nairn
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>>83252139
he was a pretty good camera in S6, finding out about Lyanna's giving birth.

I expect that, with his experience, he'll be an even better camera in S7 and find out about the tourney at harrenhal or somethinig similar so he can tell Jon about his parentage.
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>>83252328
stannis wasn't king
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>>83252255
This 100% this
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>>83252312
Is this new? Someone please post it on reddit, I want to see people getting triggered!
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>>83252432
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>>83252312
>gemma and alfie would kill arya & sansa

GREYJOY ACTORS BEST OPINIONS.
99% of the cast would've named a clear cut villain, and certainly not fan favorites. Ballsy!
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>>83252262
Busy with fucking my wife, eating kapsalon, watching and blogging about football, writing wild cards and going for a walk.

Do you like salad?
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>>83252312
>both were asked who's worse, ramsay or joffrey
>Alfie chose joffrey
Interesting choice
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>>83252328
And where is Balon Greyjoy?!
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>>83252401
YAAAAAS KWAAAAYN YAAAAAAS
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I love you deeply
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>>83252301
uuuHHUUUUUU
Did you forget that "All MEN MUST DIE"

This is a time for queens.
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>>83252432
Regardless of objective inheritance, if you have no problem with anyone else on that list, it means you accept that people saying "You're the king!" actually makes that person the king.

There are people who say Stannis is the king, so he is.
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>>83252540
>implying normies who make make facebook memes remember him
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>>83252606
lel i don't care just trying to piss of stannisfags
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Daily reminder that the show doesn't mean shit
>show-Theon is going to die saving Yara from ebil Euron
>bookTheon is going to rise harder and stronger and become King of the Iron Islands
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>>83252139
He's the only stark worth shit including jon
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>>83252513
No I drink ranch dip by the glass full. Can we be best friends? I'll clean your office.
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>>83252648
I know but I still had to reply because butthurt
>t.pissed off stannisfag
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>there won't be a scene where Euron rapes Ellaria and the sand snakes

why live?
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Based greyjoys
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>>83252756
I'm ok with it if the leashing scene is long enough/has some petplay involved.
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>>83252699
You hired!

No, we can't be friends! For I have already many friends.
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>>83252273
Please respond
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I really don't get Ellaria's appeal. The actress I mean.

I'd fuck emilia at her worse over Ellaria at her best.
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>>83252803

has long as possible please
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>>83252856

Yes she's ugly

so are the sandsnakes - dirty, ugly little girls

the type of girls that make great whores
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>>83252756
There might be
D&D have no restraint or subtlety
Normies don't like the Sand Sneks
So they're gonna try to pander hard to that
They already killed Doran stupidly
Now they're going to have the Sneks die horribly in an attempt to get the monkeys to clap and cheer.

D&D also loves having stupid cartoonishly evil villains. With Ramsay out of the way, Ser Fat Cock will need to replace him.

So Euron is going to do evil shit to the Sneks.
And then a proud woman will kill him.
Maybe Danny will get to it while she says something "clever" like "it's unfortunate for you... Dragons love fried calamari" .
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>>83252273
>>83252837
>paying attention to anything dorne or anything targaryen

dorne is just ooga booga I'm the grass see me scheming oh please soemone rape me in the desert

targaryen is just FIRE AND BLOOD MUH DRAGON MUH PROPHECY
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>>83252756
It will happen since Euron is based
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>>83252892

jokes on them, i'll just stop watching after that scene and pretend he lives happily ever after, eventually taking the throne and danny as his fat bride.
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Stannis is dead and jaime is a baby flinging rapist
Winds of winter never, only show is canon
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>>83252837
Impossible to know because that answer wasn't written

Why didn't Aegon conquer Dorne? Because uh.... Scary latter, yes.

The real reason was that George was cribbing more from history, and the Cornish (see, it's like Dornish) weren't conquered by the Anglo-Saxons.
That's the real reason but then they had to make up something to explain why Dragon man didn't just kill them all with magic castle melting dragons
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>>83252997
you forgot:
blackfish is irrelevant
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Seriously though does anyone know if Alfie has ever dated a girl
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>>83253149
He is too bully by sister
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>>83253149

I guarantee he fucked his sister at some point, it's probably a part of why she got so messed up
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>>83253149
Yeah, his tsundere sister.

Those weren't miscarriages *cough*
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>>83252997
>>83253056
George better have a fucking letter to his fans in his will explaining his intended ends for all his characters
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>>83253198
post yfw Jonerys as King and Queen with Tyrion as Hand and Samsan
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It's a friendly thread say something nice about him
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>>83253491
You cucked the shit out of a whole lotta nerds
That takes something special
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CANON
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Are you ready for jonerys(best ship)
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>>83253491

He will spare us the misery of finishing his shitty books by dying soon.
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>>83253594
yes please!
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>>83252312
goddamnit why couldnt we they have let her play asha instead of another lgbtwxyz tv quota
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>>83253594
Always
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>>83253708
so much wrong with this chart I don't even know where to begin
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>>83253798
I just want them to be together irl is that so much to ask
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNIer1zUgGQ
>When will you finish the books.
>Next year!
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reminder that twow will never be finished. george most definitely wants to an hero after the show finishes his story
>b-but he fed d&d fake info
yeah how about fake news. george isn't smart enough to do that. also, because of how the show blew up theres now like 1000x more people who will read the books eventually. old george can't handle criticism and if the book is not perfect everyone will trash it and he will an hero anyway.
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>>83253926
I haven't finished that game because of clunky and shitty the gameplay was 2bh
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>>83253846
Don't be like sansa stans who want Kit and Sophie or Richard and Sophie to hook up irl
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>>83253476
>mfw
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>>83253708
Jesus christ this is the worst chart I've literally ever seen
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>>83253846
they love each other, just not romantically
hope that makes you feel better
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>>83254055
They want that?
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>>83254199
Yes, I'm literally not joking, there's fic about both,

They don't like Jon with Ygritte and they don't like Kit with Rose. And find Richard hot so they want him and Sophie to fuck and like Robb x Sansa.
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>>83253792
>>83254090
it's a showfag chart, of course it's gonna be retarded.
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59
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>>83254783

http://www.hbo.com/search?type=schedule&focusId=799557
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>>83254783
>>83254842
59 minutes til what? not a burgerbro HBO won't tell me their secrets
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>>83255038
season premiere running time

its the second longest ever after the pilot - winter is coming
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>>83254167
they've definitely fucked though

I bet most of the hotties on the GOT cast have done at least a bit of kinky shit with each other
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>>83253708
>tyrion is competent
>aside of the blackwater battle, 90% of what he did was to fight his sister while 2 different guys were trying to remove their family from power

>tyrion is popular
>literally the most hated person in kingslanding from the time he arrived as Hand, to the time he left as an exile, and this by the nobility AND smallfolks both.

Unless it was "popular with the fans" but even if that was, it's still extremely wrong (tywin is popular, literally no one but the 2-3 pedofaggots on /got/ gives a fuck about bran, Robert is not nearly that popular (I like him but most showfags probably don't even remember him)
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>>83252837
What happened to Rhaenys is my favorite ASOIAF mystery and if I could ask Grrm a question this would be it. I think they kept her alive and tourtued her and possibly bred her. Why wouldn't you if she way alive? She has the golden genes right there in your keep. So I think the Dornish have more Targ blood than just Dornish Dany.
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>>83255192
That's true for 90% of hot people
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>>83255285
>I think they kept her alive and tourtued her and possibly bred her.

Wouldn't that give Aegon less reason to make peace with them though?

lol just let us keep torturing and raping your favorite wife you faggot
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How to pee like someone on GoT.

>place hand over crotch
>jump up slightly a couple times
>proceed to pee for a fucking minute
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>>83255079
>its the second longest ever after the pilot - winter is coming
you're forgetting that the Season 6 finale was 69 minutes.
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>>83255449
you are forgetting that i mean its the second longest season premiere ep
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>>83255367
I don't think they told him that. I think the letter said she was still alive and she would be tourtured if he didn't stop trying to invade. Making peace wouldn't get her back. If he made peace and got her back he would have burnt there shit up with a new fervor. So I don't see any reason they would ever give her back.
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>>83253188
His sister said he has a giant wang and he would shit in front of her while she took showers
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Can't wait to see myself on screen :)

I should be in episode 3 as an extra
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I was only 16 years old I loved Stannis so much, I had all the banners and murals I pray to R’hllor every night before bed, thanking him for the life I’ve been given "Stannis is love" I say; “Stannis is life” My dad hears me and calls me a faggot I know he was just jealous of my devotion for Stannis I called him a usurper He slaps me and sends me to Dragonstone I’m crying now, and my face hurts I lay in bed and it’s really cold Suddenly, a warmth is moving towards me It’s Stannis I am so happy He whispers into my ear “The Iron Throne is mine, by right” He grabs me with his powerful Baratheon hands and puts me down onto my knees I’m ready I swear my fealty for Stannis He penetrates my butt-hole It hurts so much but I do it for Stannis I can feel my butt burning as my eyes start to water I push against his fury I want to please Stannis He grinds his teeth as he fills my butt with his love My dad walks in Stannis looks him straight in the eyes and says “Go on, do your duty” Stannis leaves through my window Stannis is love. Stanni
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>>83256034
EBIN XD
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>>83255999
What do you play?
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>>83255999
trips for ep 3
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>>83256104
Lannister footman, more than just background though. It's a banter type scene in the camp and then Jaime comes along.
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S E V E N E P I S O D E S
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>>83255999
do you get rapped anally?
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>>83255920
>she was still alive and she would be tourtured if he didn't stop trying to invade.

And the alternative is to let her stay in Dorne where they can also keep torturing, raping or breeding her?

What does he even get from that?
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>>83256161
W-what happens next?
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>>83256200
I'm not going to spoil but let's say he asserts his authority (non gay)
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Does anyone actually like Sam?
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>>83256239
George does
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>>83256239
no, fuckin self insert character
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>>83256164
Means less filler you moron
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>>83256238
>on 4chan
>not going to spoil
fuck off fakefag
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>>83256239
My sister does.
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>>83255274
he simply doesn't give a fuck about muh family
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>>83256239
George
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do you faggots browse /tv/ or only /got/?
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>>83256310
RR Martin
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>>83256365
will never finish the books.
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>>83252070

I always feel bad for Robb

By all means, he's better than Kit in every way, as an actor and as the characters they play, but he really got the shaft
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>>83256272
famous words right there
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>>83255192
>hotties
so Oona, Carice, and who? I guess some of the whores were pretty hot too, but main cast?
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>>83256180
She fell from the sky on a dragon into fire I think she was fucked up and that they said they would give her the mercy of a quick death if he stood down but instead they nursed her back to health and kept her prisoner for themselves. They may have even done some mountain like experiments on her.
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>>83256425
There was def something between kit and emilia in the past I don't know about now though
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>>83256239
>>83256265
Sam is such a fucking cop out. If GRRM had real balls and was really aboud "deconstructing" fantasy he'd portray him honestly as a coward.
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>>83256425
Emilia, Kit, Nikolaj, Nathalie, Lena, Jason just to name a few
Oona is nothing special, unless you judge someones beauty only by their ass.
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>>83256265
>>83256239
sam is grrrrrrrms self insert and he is triggered no one likes the fat, shy, nice guy who is raising a cuck baby
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>>83256533
>they said they would give her the mercy of a quick death

And he's supposed to believe them based on what that they'd do that or had done it after he stood down?
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>>83256425
A lot of people find Sophie very attractive
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>>83256667
She looked prettier when she was younger imo. Now her face is kinda chunky.
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>>83256738
It's weird, her face used to be skinny, then she got a bit chubby and her face got chunky, but when she lost the weight her face stayed the same
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>>83256839
Cocaine its a hell of a drug...
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>>83256839
bones thicken as maturity is reached
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>>83256630
What else can he do? He doesn't believe them and goes at Dorne again and bad things happen to Rhaenys and the Relm. It's a case of Dorne out smarting the Targs and Westeros. I believe George is really trying to pound that point home with Dorne.
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>>83256942
She looks well in recent pics
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>>83252312

Joff being worse than Ramsay makes no sense
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There's an army on the dance floor
It's a fashion with a gun my love
In a room without a door
A kiss is not enough in
Love my way, it's a new road
I follow where my mind goes
They'd put us on a railroad
They'd dearly make us pay
For laughing in their faces
And making it our way
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all
And take us all apart
But not in
Love my way, it's a new road
I follow where my mind goes
Love my…
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>>83256942
C O K E
O
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BLOAT
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>>83256994
She can't get rid of her double chin lol

Even with all the coke and gym in the world
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>>83256985
But it's literally on nothing but their word that hey they have Rhaenys and she's definitely still alive, and hey we'll definitely give her a mercy killing if you step down.

That'd be retarded
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>Me on the far left
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Season 7 premieres in
50 Days 03 Hours 17 Minutes
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>>83257019
It's probably all about perspective.

Joffrey is bad for the whole of the kingdoms and bled Westeros, Ramsay is a terrible person who'll do a lot more terrible shit to you and get some of his men to personally, but his influence is a lot less and whether or not he'll get his people starving or lead to a lot of war while relying on others to fix things is anybody's guess.
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>>83257238
Is this recent
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Robb is more attractive than Jon. That is all.
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>>83252312
>says "D&D" instead of "David and Dan"
>alfie would kill arya
>gemma would kill sansa
>alfie would want theon to drown if he died
>gemma says ramsay is worse

so many good opinions
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>>83257358
I think he's definitely supposed to be.

War's made him lean and strong or something like that I think Cat thought, plus he got the Tully height and bulk.

Meanwhile Jon's skinny and looks like Ned who's not handsome.
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>>83257238
Me on the right...... :3
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>>83252328
Night's King will die, Winter will end but the last episode of S7 will have a shot of a bunch of ships arriving from Braavos. The Iron Bank are starting up a new War of the Ninepenny Kings and all the Eastern Jews will buy out every Sellsword Company to take over Westeros.

Euron Greyjoy will team up with Cersei, Jon and Daenerys will team up. Get ready for #TheFinalShowdown #GoTS8
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>>83252756
I hope Euron at least takes snek tits as his concubine. Give us one final decent sex scene Dabid...
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Jaqen H'ghar = The Alchemist = Pate
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>>83256585
>lists Emilia
>Oona is nothing special
get better taste
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>>83257630
Braavos - Westeros ( King's Landing) - Harrenhal - Oldtown
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Reminder that in the D&D universe, the Meereenese society flourish with former slaves and former masters working hand in hand under the wise guidance of Daario Naharis and the cult of the red god.
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What does /got/ think of other /tv/ generals?
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Daenerys Stormborn
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>>83257168
What if they used her handwriting? Similar to Cersei having Sansa write that message to Robb, it would make sense to have full confirmation that your bargaining/threat chip is actually with you.

I think Aegon's decision to not invade again continues with the theme of "love or duty" in which case Aegon clearly chose love over duty.
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>>83257861
>What if they used her handwriting?

Then that still gets into the problem so any assurances and why he'd feel comfortable just leaving her in Dorne as a prisoner forever.

If they're capable of forcing her to write a letter to him, they can certainly make her lie about any injury or lie themselves about any mercy killing.

What assurances could they provide that they'll do any of the things Aegon was to agree to?
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>>83257935
*of any assurances
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Smell ma fanneh John Snor
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Euron & Victarion
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>Jon kills the night king with a crayon
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Mother of dragons
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>>83258066
Tywin & Tyrion
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>>83258253
Devourer of hams
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Khaleesi
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And rightful queen of the seven kingdoms
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HELP ME GREY NIGGER
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>>83257630
Jaqeb H'ghar = rapist
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>>83253996
kek
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>>83257935
>they can certainly make her lie about any injury or lie themselves about any mercy killing.

Didn't think about that. I don't doubt GRRM has a logical explanation for this, more than enough time to come up with something. Then again, maybe I have too much faith in the fat fuck.
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>>83258546
Jaqen H'ghar = assassin
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>>83258833
ass-ass-in
anal rapist confirmed
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>>83258698
>I don't doubt GRRM has a logical explanation for this

I highly doubt he does.

Somethings are just meant for plot and to make things more interesting.

Mysterious letter from Dorne that gets dragonrider king to stand down. Weird oily stones scattered around the world. Nagga's bones. The Doom. Sothoryos. Why Tyrion doesn't tell anyone about Petyr fucking him over. How Petyr plans to marry a married woman to an heir. etc.
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>>83258851
No-no-in
No raping not a rapist confirmed
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>>83253726
Do you think the normies would be mature enough to handle another rape scene? Hey iron islanders are just fucked up. It's the Middle Ages this shit happens. Asha is still a strong character in other ways or something.
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>>83258939
Asha wasnt raped though unless you're talking about Euron grabbing her then i dont think D&D have any balls to do that
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>>83258546
>>83258851
Despite everything, I think you are a sweet and cute anon, kind of.
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>>83258939
Nope normie are weak
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Azor Jaqen
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>>83258995
I thought her fuckbuddy did it in dance of dragons, she tried to grab her axe. After he falls asleep she fucks him again. Like even though she's balons designated heir she normalized or accepted her culture of submitting after being beaten as a respect of strength? Maybe she will succeed in resisting the next time she's not in the mood. I don't really remember her mindset after it happened.
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Reminder that lemons don't grow in Braavos
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>>83259253
it was just a playful bit of fucking that do
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>>83252139
i love him
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>>83257737
I only post on /got/ and better call saul threads desu.
well I browse the 'body of work' threads sometime
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>>83259281
Maybe but the internet exploded after the jaime cersei scene that was slightly unclear b/c Lena got caught up in the heat of the moment.
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I'm almost finished rereading a Clash of Kings and I just got to the last Jon chapter and found this gem

>Ghost sat on his haunches, watching, silent as ever. Will he howl for me when I'm dead, as Bran's wolf howled when he fell? Jon wondered. Will Shaggydog howl, far off in Winterfell, and Grey Wind and Nymeria, wherever they might be?

Jon thinks about every wolf EXCEPT for Sansa's wolf, Lady. How could he know that Lady is dead when he wasn't there to see it, nor is it ever implied that he's been informed about it?
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>>83259400
Alex greaves isnt very bright
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>>83259437
Sansa and her wolf are uptight and hate that lil bastard it is known
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>>83259437
>How could he know that Lady is dead when he wasn't there to see it,

The dogs can sense each other.

You know how Star Wars has the Force? The wolves have something like it
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So season 7 will be white woman killing white men with her nigger army?
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>>83256573
GRRM did it's the show that made him grow a pair
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>>83259607
>Valyrians
>white

They're from Essos you fuck
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>Preston thinks L + R = D because of Ned's strange obsession with not killing Dany in aGoT
>Ned played Dany marrying Khal Drogo as no big deal
>Ned's first order after Robert die was not to protect his daughters, but to go to Varys and renege Robert's move to kill Dany
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>>83256573
Sam is a coward though
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>>83259628
>Magical purple eyed platinum blonde group of people in a fantasy series
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my girlfriend downloaded the last season of this shit and my ISP sent me an email

i hate this show
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>>83259732
Cuck
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>>83257474
Girls can't resist the BIG TULLY DICK
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>>83259732
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>>83259695
young griff is lyannas son and dany is a blackfyre
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>>83259703
>magical purple eyed people with silver hair who can commit incest for centuries but still product 10/10s must be white

lol
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>>83259762
>Edmure was single before fucking Roslin

lol sure
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>>83259732
I hope the internet police take you out
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>>83259752
>>83259763
where are the spoilers/leaks? i want to ruin this shit for her. especially after i sat through that last walking dead season with her
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How would Ramsay react when he finds out that Roose Bolton is an immortal skin stealing vampire
creature?

Why does Roose hide his true identity? What's the matter if the people finds out that he is a immortal vampire?
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>>83259816
He got cucked by some effeminate bard b/c of weak dick game
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>>83259816
>banging wenches every day because dad can't be fucked finding you a wife
Nothing wrong with that
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>>83259852
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3915320/SPOILER-ALERT-Entire-plot-Game-Thrones-season-7-leaked-online-story-insane.html
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>>83259864
He probably could have found a sympathetic targaryean king. The starks would want him dead for being an abomination though
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>>83259852
Dany takes Westeros. Goes mad. Jorah kills her to save the realm. Sam figures out in the library that the Others/wights are just a jewish trick by the Iron Bank to get their dragon shillings back. The End.
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>>83259937
How many times this will be posted I wonder
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>>83259980
she really dies? or do main characters always come back in this universe
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Did you know
>George R. R. Martin does not like HBO's arakh's which looks like a Khopesh. While the book Arakh is descriped like an Scimitar
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>>83259903
lol sure tullyfag.

Edmure's pathetic
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>>83260039
fascinating. have a secret agent frogfu
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>>83260031
Those aren't the real leaks
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>In b4 anons constantly bitch and moan about how the got leddit normies are starting to flood the board.
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>>83260072
>bride is basically in love with you after 1 night
Edmure is alpha
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>>83260039
Doesn't look as cool.
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>>83260186
>in love
>implying Roselyn isn't just a decent person in a shit family
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>>83259864
you answered your own stupid question you fucking retard. 'hur why does this immortal reverse vampire hide his identity'

what the fuck..are you a mexican?
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>>83260229
and she just loved the cock that much
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>>83260284
So good it couldn't even stop her crying
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>>83257935

I don't think she was left alive in Dorne, I don't think they had threat of torture or death looming over either. You make the next generation invade Dorne then, you don't have peace standing based on hostage situation. It seems very likely the letter involved Rhaenys, more likely her death than her life. She is thought to have died in battle and that's the story they want. I think its far more likely she did not die in battle and rather than shamming her head or body in someway they chose to let Aegon give her a proper burial, which is cremation for Targs.

No theory that looms a threat over Aegon makes sense. The blood magic theories sort of make sense, if blood from Rhaenys could be used to hurt Aegon, they basically buy peace that way. Still, I think Rhaenys was tortured, as the ullers did and the martells saw to end that. Any threat made would be ass crappingly stupid with the martell princess there. They'd have taken her hostage. The war would not have ended, Dorne wanted peace, not more petty revenge.
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>>83260116
>starting
this is a reddit board
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>>83260375
>they chose to let Aegon give her a proper burial, which is cremation for Targs.

Like how?

Brought her body to Dragonstone?

>blood magic theories sort of make sense

I don't give any credence to blood magic theories in general..
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>>83259768
young griff is Varys and Illyrio's Blackfyre son. Varys is a fat woman who's been posing as a eunuch since his birth.
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>>83260788
my guess was he was oberyn and mel's son
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>>83260487

Blood magic is interesting, but you don't need to bring the dragon skull and send the princess to make a threat. Thats how you get a princess killed.

I think they stored her body somewhere, yea. It may have been beaten and beheaded already, or buried, or not taken care of in the way Targs would want. Like when Mussolini died, they dragged his body everyone and shamed his ass something awful. You don't want word your queen was tortured, beheaded, or whatever. I think the martells would have given her a warriors death and killed the queen, but rumors the ullers got her, they would not have. I think they allowed her body brought there, or did it, sure. It makes more sense then "kept alive as a hostage"
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>>83260073
lmao
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>>83258253
>gave birth to dragons in S1
>still morbidly obese in S7

how?
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>>83261093
The delusion is real
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did you guys ever discuss what the 6 spin-offs are going to be?

i'd be really pissed if the aegon the conqueror arc isn't one of them
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>>83260073
this is one of the rare picture of her where I find here reasonably attractive.
like, close to a 7/10.

guess it's the hair.
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>>83261157
5.

And duh newfag
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>>83252273
That seems reasonable. We know Targ fucking shits have fertility issues. Also, it would be rather appropriate if the family that's obsessed with the purity of their blood was entirely wrong about who they were from the start.

Or maybe the letter reminded him that he promoted the Tully's to a major house and that one day Catlyn Tully would be in a position of power.
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>>83261296
George loves the targshits
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>>83261157
The Tales of Drogon the Dragon
The Mad Queen
Lyanna, The Queen of Love and Beauty
Brann, The Builder
Animal Planet: Dothraki Hordes
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I'm at the American version of the tourney of the hand
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>>83259986
What will the next thread be about I wonder.
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>>83260271
No! I did not answer my own question you fucking retard!

Eat shit...fucking paki!
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>>83261466
Probably threadly reposts.
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>>83261157
Robert's Rebellion
Aegon's Conquest
The Dance of the Dragons
The Blackfyre Rebellions
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>>83261545
Robert's Rebellion is confirmed out by George, as are Dunk and Egg, who were instrumental to a couple Blackfyre rebellions
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>>83261531
What threadly reposts I wonder.
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>>83255274
>aside of the blackwater battle, 90% of what he did was to fight his sister
To be fair, Feast showed us what happens when no-one is fighting Cersei. Tyrion kept her under control admirably, and was competent enough Varys and Littlefinger didn't feel the need to fuck everything up.
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>>83261617
Why didn't Tyrion deal with Littlefinger?!
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>>83260039
Khopesh are a million times cooler than fucking scimitars, what the hell grrrrm.
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Anyone got the interview where George says that the song of ice and fire is about Dany and her dragons as fire and the Others as ice?

I think it was a video.
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>Renly is not white

What did the northern man mean by this? Are stormlanders the Westeros version of Italians?
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>>83257935
It is worth remembering that the letter made him cry then give up, not enter into protracted and logical negotiation. Yes, logically you have no certainty about anything when it comes to hostages, but people handle it emotionally. Some people refuse to fight at all because of one hostage, like Wyman Manderly, while some people fight despite multiple hostages, like Robb Stark.
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>>83262031
ONE DROP
northerners are /pol/
He probably has a black ancestor 30 generations back.

That's why the greatjon didn't want to back stannis neither. Same blood.
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Cast her /got/
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I cast her as DELET
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>>83261672
Littlefinger was the only person who could understand the government accounts. Also, Tyrion got out-played. Littlefinger and Varys had almost total control over what he was doing.

Apart from taking Harrenhal off the table of coursh. No-one saw that coming.
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Modern day Isaac Hempstead Wright
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which 2 characters in asoiaf ( linked or not ) would you like as your dad and your mommy?
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So what did Littlefinger do with all the realm's money? Apparently Littlefinger's governance had everyone generating more money than ever before, but they were still borrowing millions from everyone. Even Robert couldn't drink that much wine.
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>>83262380
Viserys and Shireen
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>>83262380
i would just be bran without changing anything else
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>>83262452
Wasn't he just borrowing money whenever it was needed? I know he himself made himself wealthy, but when it came to managing the realm's money I thought he just purposefully ran up the debt.
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>>83262185
>the letter made him cry then give up

lol wot?

>Swayed by such considerations, it is said, King Aegon was determined to refuse the offer until Princess Deria placed in his hands a private letter from her father, Prince Nymor. Aegon read it upon the Iron Throne, and men say that when he rose, his hand was bleeding, so hard had he clenched it. He burned the letter and departed immediately on Balerion's back for Dragonstone. When he returned the next morning, he agreed to the peace and signed a treaty to that effect.
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>>83262679
You got me, it made him clench his hand so hard it bled then give up. It's anger more than sadness, but it's still not the behavior of a rational man.
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>>83262573
mommy
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>>83262734
only mummy's favourite gets the mouth-to-mouth
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>>83262724
Anger isn't the behavior of a rational conqueror who burns people to get them to bend the knee?

Who would've thought?

And lol at you thinking Aegon would just take it like a bitch that they'd have his favorite wife as a hostage and just not give a shit about getting her back especially after making peace. Wyman still tried to get his son back m8. Robb was still fighting a war to get his sisters back and get revenge too.
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>>83258546
How are you doing my friend?
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>>83262593
He borrowed a whole load of money.

When Robert announced that the Tourney of the Hand would have a 25,000 dragon reward, everyone thought it was ridiculous, but somehow the realm has a six million dragon debt. That's 240 Tourneys of the Hand. What are they doing with the money?

Then again Anguy spent 10000 dragons on whores, so maybe Robert did spend six million.
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>>83262380
Stannis and Mel
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>>83262380
Jaqen & Melissandre (or Arya/Joanna)
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>>83262960
Well, over 17 years or whatever his reign was. At 17 years, that's 14 tourney's of the hand per year. So probably a lot of feasting, partying, and the largest money sink of all empires, public works projects. Usually in the form of monuments or statues that don't actually do much for most of the population, but require hundreds of thousands of dollars to complete.
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>>83262980
Playing with fire there.
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Maybe perhaps they did have rahaela and maybe the letter itself was poisoned and it was written on the letter itself that is was and that the cure was somewhere in dragonstone showing aegon that the targaryans had nowhere to hide or run if they continued attacking dorne and lost. And that their home was compromised.

But I do like the idea of aenys being aegons biological son just showing how foolish it is to bed siblings and how weak targshits actually were
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>>83263092
i like to walk with fire
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>>83263138
So you'd rather have aegon the conquerer, the best targaryan having weak ass sperm and producing a frail child than the frailty of the child not be the fault of aegons genes? Fuck you aegon had powerful sperm
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>>83263244
Same anon

Its as bad as that I theory tywin is tyrions real father. It can't be true such a great man can't produce such bad offspring. Just like aegon. He couldn't have produce such fragile a child as aenys it had to be someone else's. He was too great for that
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>>83262809
He's no Danaerys. Aegon was rational and intelligent in the way he conquered six of the seven kingdoms, making alliances when he could and aiming for isolated devastating blows rather than protracted wars.

Aegon was losing the war with Dorne anyway. It had turned into his Vietnam and he'd lost one dragon/sister already. What would he gain from continuing the war beyond the chance to lose his other sister/dragon?
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Threadly reminder that Biter was a Squisher.
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>>83262980
>tfw you're a shadowbabby and all you have to do is kill renly and your existence is over

I mean it,d still be a great life, but a bit short
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>>83263534
shadow meeseeks
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>>83263387
I'm not saying he'd wage war but it's retarded that he'd learn his sister is a hostage, sign a peace treaty and apparently just stop giving a shit about her.
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>>83263309
>his bastard status gave him little options in life

HE COULD'VE DONE 99.9% OF WHAT HE WANTED TO DO LITERALLY ANY JOB IN THE ENTIRE WORLD BESIDE KING/LORD.

Normies pretending Jon Snu is a rags-to-riches story pisses me off. The "bastard" of the lord of a major family is the next best thing to the rightful son of a major family.

Hell some even become lords or landed knights.
>poor jon snu with no options he'll probably turn out to be a beggar because he's bastard born
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>>83263361
>>83263244
Fuck off aegon shitter your entire argument is that aenys is a bastard all because aegon produced a shit heir. Targaryans had horrid sperm and low birth rates, the founder of the dynasty was no different. Aegon was an incestuous pompus ass who thought he was immortal until his slut of a favorite wife died in dorne or was getting DORNISHED hard. Aegon and his baby dick couldn't produce a good heir in decades he was married to his sisters, he only made a shitty sickly child that shouldn't have lived even his better wife, based visenya had to use magic to make their offspring not aenys tier.
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>>83263309
I thought he's going by Jon Stark now
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>>83263616
Its possible she fell in love with her captors or that she was killed and her ashes were going to be delivered to dragon stone.
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>>83263643
It does limit who he gets to marry usually, since any noble woman wouldn't marry a bastard. It also make shim unlikely to get inheritance.

He's better off than like 95% of Westeros, but most of his options were military in nature. That is, if you fetishize glory and honor like he did.
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>>83263733
so his options were practically the same as bran or rickon's
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>>83263706
You mean jaeherys/aegon/aemone snow-stark-targaryan right? Goddamn Jon sounds like a donut steal fan fic character from sonic. And like sonic fan fic characters are canon
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>>83263721
>she fell in love with her captors

lol no

>her ashes were going to be delivered to dragon stone.'

That's what I discussed with the other anon and could explain why he went to Dragonstone
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>>83263754
Eh, no see they could also have become maesters or land holding lords, or most likely have married to other noble women and lived wherever they were. They would also have been in line for Winterfell succession.

Jon's upbringing sort of makes him the king of peasants. He can't marry into wealth or status and he would never rule, and he likely wouldn't have been given any significant command in an army but he could read and write and use mathematics, as well as having riding and martial training.
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>>83263816
I'm certain she was being dornished hard like that other anon said. It could explain why the daynes have valyrian features. Perhaps they wanted to keep the origin of them a secret just in case
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>>83263755
Well, he is basically an Aragorn/Arthur expy, so there's going to be a bit of "my character is secretly from all the coolest houses and has a really super special sword and an albino wolf best friend", since those old myths of chosen kings don't really have too much separating them from oc donut steels.
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>>83263864
>they could also have become maesters or land holding lords
Maesters can be bastards. Also Ned planned to make Jon a lord of some new holdfast in the gift as part of giving the NW more support or something.
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>>83263903
>why the daynes have valyrian features.

No it wouldn;t.

George explained that the Daynes have Valyrian like features separate from being actual Valyrians or having Valyrian blood.

And it wouldn't make sense anyway unless the Dayne also did a LOT of incest to keep Valyrian traits.
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>>83263940
Isn't the gift under the control of the NW? How could Ned make anyone a lord of anywhere in the gift?
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Gerion Lannister will return to save Westeros from the second long night with the knowledge of how to make Valyrian Steel.
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>>83263940
>Also Ned planned to make Jon a lord of some new holdfast in the gift

Not that anon but no he didn't. Ned just talked about resettling the Gift, not that Jon would be made a Lord. No chance Cat would let him do that. Fuck letting Jon be a Lord, have men of his own, show how well he can rule, marry a Lady, gain allies and endear himself to the other Lords.
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>>83264101
>His lord father had once talked about raising new lords and settling them in the abandoned holdfasts as a shield against wildlings. The plan would have required the Watch to yield back a large part of the Gift, but his uncle Benjen believed the Lord Commander could be won around, so long as the new lordlings paid taxes to Castle Black rather than Winterfell.
>If winter had come and gone more quickly and spring had followed in its turn, I might have been chosen to hold one of these towers in my father's name.
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>>83264154
So that's more Jon considering the possibility that he might have selected as one of the new gift lords?

I strongly doubt Ned would ever do that. It seems incredibly dangerous giving the potential true heir to the iron throne land and men, allowing him the possibility of gaining highborn allies. After all, it isn't like Ned thought Robert would be assassinated/usurped.
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>>83264236
Should've just married Ned to Mya to be perfectly honest.

Join their houses unofficially and make it so Robert would have to be a full fledged kinslayer to kill dragon spawn
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>>83263986
Good point. I completely forgot about that. But I'm keeping to my theory that she was still being dornished and that aegon's seed could only produce a weak malformed child like aenys which is why visenya used magic to crest magor. Because fuck targshits and their shitty genes.
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>>83264298
*Jon to Mya
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>>83252449
>tfw want lannisters to win but we all know independed dragon mom fat bitch is going to come out on top some how
fuck the direction this show is going
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>>83264321
That's a very, very weird "theory", but you do you I guess
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>>83264371
So do you think aenys wasn't aegons son?
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>>83264298
Probably a good idea in truth. Though that would make Cercsei worried in and of itself, and if the truth regarding Jon and her kids ever came out it would make her go ballistic. Child of Robert and child of Rhaegar and Lyanna Stark, even if both bastards (and Jon might not be a bastard), could gain a lot of political and military support, especially if its revealed that Robert's children aren't actually his. Hell, Robert might prefer Jon and Mya ruling at that point.

Basically, Jon's origins fucks most relationships he could have been in pre-Robert's death, which is why him going to the wall was probably such a load off for Ned.
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>>83264402
I don't see reason to doubt it that's not "tinfoil" reddit tier shit
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>>83264323
The Lannisters as they are have been fucked for a while anon. Maggie's prophecy basically guaranteed them being wrecked.
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>>83264483
I think itd be funny but I doubt George would do that because he loves targshits
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>>83264461
>Cercsei worried in and of itself

Why?

Ned's marrying a bastard to another bastard.

Not like it fucks over Joffrey and Sansa's engagement.

>Child of Robert and child of Rhaegar and Lyanna Stark, even if both bastards (and Jon might not be a bastard)

Which should be a good thing for Jon from Ned's pov cause less chance of getting killed

>Hell, Robert might prefer Jon and Mya ruling at that point.

Makes it even better to be honest from Ned's pov.

Cersei may take issue because of what she knows if the bastardry gets out, though I still don't see Robert handing the kingdom over to dragon spawn and not killing Cersei and marrying and knocking someone else up or just having Stannis as heir, but I see a lot of upsides from Ned's view.

Gives Jon allies should he need it, makes Robert wary of killing him, protect him and his kids cause they're still Robert's blood from a kid he cares about.
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>>83263534
kek semen demons ftw
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>>83264323
you fucking retard stop pretending that d&d dont love the lannisters or arent going to buttfuck everyone for them next season.
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>>83264661
Allow me to substantiate a bit of what I was saying.

>Cersei worried
Entirely depends on if she knows Mya was a bastard of Roberts, which I thought she did. The instant Joffrey become king she had as many of Robert's bastards killed as possible. It stands to reason that the idea of one of Robert's bastards marrying someone with strong connections to the Northern families, even if he was a bastard himself, would put her a bit on edge.

It's also true that that arrangement would decrease the chance of Robert killing Jon significantly, though it would be interesting to see how he reacts to Lyanna having a kid with someone other than him (and Rheagar, of all people).

>Robert preferring Jon and Myra
Robert was ready to abdicate the throne to Ned. Hell, he thought Ned should have sat on it originally anyways. he definitely didn't want Joffrey to be king, and he didn't like Stannis or Renly either. having the son of his beloved and nephew of them man he thought of as his one true brother marry his favorite daughter and rule would likely have been appealing, especially if it meant he could leave and go fighting and whoring in Essos like he wanted to. Of course that predicates on him finding out about Cersei's children.

Again, I don't think it's a bad idea, actually I think it's a good idea, but there are things to consider with it as well. Honestly Ned was just terrified of Jon being found out.
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new thread when
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>>83265119
New thread
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>>83264959
>The instant Joffrey become king she had as many of Robert's bastards killed as possible.

Not Mya though. Mya's safe in the Vale, where now Jon could be.

>marrying someone with strong connections to the Northern families

No matter what, Mya's a bastard, and a woman at that, she'd still have no claim or right to the throne and unlike a lot of Robert's bastards, she's not an affront against Cersei because Robert wasn't even with her. And Jon himself is also still a bastard as far as she knows, no one's gonna seat a bastard much less two.

>he definitely didn't want Joffrey to be king, and he didn't like Stannis or Renly either.

Yes, but he still didn't choose to skip his kids of give the throne to Ned though did he? And no chance he'll give the throne to a bastard of his other than maybe Edric who's like him, who's a male, and not married to dragonspawn. He may not kill Jon since he'd be married to his daughter and be father to his grandkids, but he's not gonna fuck his House and the kingdoms over by putting a Targaryen back on the throne.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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