When will we have another movie about the crusades?

How about a crusade to unJUST Nic Cage?

>>83212475
Hopefully never. It'd just be leftist 'the Christians were the devil attacking the peaceful Muslims who are good boys who didnu nuffin

Only if a country like Poland makes one.

>>83212712
Instead of what?

>>83212770
Instead of what actually happened historically?

>>83212812
Which is?

>>83212945
cucktolics going on crusade in the name of God but instead of defending the city of God they go to Constantinople, siege it, kill almost all of its population, loot everything, melt all the golden crosses and holy relics and go back home full of shekels leaving not only Jerusalem, but the Byzantine Empire too to fall into the hands of mudslimes

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>>83212475
>Hayden Christensen

>>83213058
(((you)))

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>>83213058
Will Byzantiboos ever recover?

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>>83212812
Protecting and freeing christians from muslim enslavement and occupation. Islam has always been a religion of conquest.

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>>83213132
>that crusade that had a lot of merchants involvement..
>mm really makes you wonder

>>83212945
christians were really mad that muslims were invading everything all the time for hundreds of years so they sperged out and started going to the holy lands to fight muslims a few times then went back home to europe to participate in the turmoil that was inherent to feudal europe at the time

what you have to remember is that muslims have pretty much always been massive pieces of shit. Contemporary european christians weren't much better, but they had pretty solid reasons to go on crusade against the muslims and take a big fat shit in the holy land to piss off and scare the muslims for centuries to come. In case you didn't guess the reason yet, it's because muslims were pieces of shit.

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>>83212475
movie?

>>83212945
>Muslims conquer middle-east, north africa and Persia in a few years
>Invade and conquer most of Iberia, attack France, all this is unprovoked mind you
>Take Sicily and launch pirate raids on Rome
>Christians finally have had enough and answer a plea from the Byzantine Emperor for help against the Turks who have taken most of asia minor
>Christendom goes to war, takes back Sicily and Iberia and holds the holy land for a few years

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>>83214556
Lol, is this a mockup for a manga?

Michael Fassbender has one in production. It's about a Hiberno-Norman Crusader (Irish Norman).

>>83214498
>what you have to remember is that muslims have pretty much always been massive pieces of shit.
Not really. Its hard to adequately explain the damage the mongolians did to the entire middle east. They smashed the cradle of civilization back to square one and the region is still recovering.

>>83212945
>byzantines getting rekt by muslims
>dial the pope for help
>pope makes up some shit like "your sins will be forgiven" to get dummies over there
>spend the next 300 years attempting to gain control over the holy lands
>fail

Now internet christian larpers conflate it with modern sentiments of islam

>>83214781
first crusade was kińó
the rest wast beyond stupidity
especially that loli one

>>83214916
its like when they make a masterpiece movie and then keep trying to ape the success of the first one

and what was with that fourth one? Sheesh those idiots crusaded themselves!

>>83212945
A peaceful pilgrimage

>>83214916
I've always thought the children's crusade would make a really great premise for a black comedy.

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BYZANTINE MOVIE WHEN

>>83215185
Probably never.
I don't understand why its such an overlooked period of pop-history.

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>>83212945
An invasion launched to defend Christendom from the continued ravages of Islam.

Syria, Egypt, Palestine, Turkey, etc. were all Christian lands. The Muslims invaded and enslaved/raped/force-converted the local population by spending a bunch of bird mana. They were on the doorstep of Constantinople and there were no longer any Surprise-Bulgarians left to attack the Muslims in the back, so the Emperor, Alexius Comnenus, sent word to the Pope (Urban II).

Urban II went all "GONDOR CALLS FOR AID" to the various Lords and Kings of Europe. The Kings all told him to eat a fat dick because they were busy with other shit. A few guys, the most famous being Godfrey de Bouillon and Raymond of Toulouse (great lords of their time from Frankish lands -- modern day Belgium/Luxenburg and France) said they'd go along, though. And they attracted a number of other men to come.

The crusaders were made up of a mixed bunch. You had truly pious men, like Godfrey, willing to fight and die to save their fellow christians. And then you had opportunistic fighters who saw the chance for wealth and glory (like Godfrey's brother, Baldwin). The crusaders make their way down to Italy, recruiting people on the way, and they meet BOHEMOND OF ANTIOCH-- well, he was just Bohemond d'Hauteville of Taranto at this point. Bohemond was an absolute BAMF that gave no fucks, renowned for his good looks, cruelty, and extreme competence when it came to the art of murder and battle.

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>>83215246

Bohemond, you see, was a Norman. And not just any Norman. He was one of the Normans whose family invaded and conquered Sicily/Southern Italy away from the Muslims as a practice run before the other Normans invaded England. Turns out Normans were taking islands and carving kingdoms out of them left and right in the 11th century. After taking Sicily and Naples, the Normans got bored and they'd regularly launch attacks on their neighbors and demand tribute for sport. For example, Bohemond sailed to Epirus (modern-day Albania; controlled by the Byzantines at the time) and took their shit just to fuck with them and demand money. He was a warrior extraordinaire, and he knew it.

Bohemond decides to join the Crusaders with his knights and immediately becomes the nominal leader of the crusade, because he was the only of the great lords with any amount of experience kicking ass, taking names, and skinning people alive. But it's still technically led by a council consisting of Godfrey, Raymond, Bohemond, and some other noblemen (including a French prince, Hugh de Vermandois).

Eventually, the crusaders make it to Constantinople, which is quite the surprise and embarrassment. First of all, Emperor Alexius was not expecting literally fucking thousands of knights and soldiers from Western Europe to show up on his doorstep. Secondly, he sure as fuck didn't expect them to be led by the dude that had been invading Albania and killing Alexius's men for sport. But Alexius was a canny ruler and he realized he should probably forget that.

(A side note: one of the best contemporary sources from the time period is the Alexiad, a history of the Byzantine Empire, written by Alexius's teenage daughter, Anna Comnena. She included a passage describing how utterly smitten she was with Bohemond and how handsome he was and how she wondered what color his beard would be if he didn't shave and how he was shaped like a Greek god yadda yadda. Bohemond was already forty at this point).

>>83214694
they were pieces of shit to anyone not muslim way before that. You can argue that there were a lot of other worse people, but that doesn't make them any less shit. The muslims got their start by invading literally everyone, remember, and their golden age was founded on the Jizya and the accomplishments of people they practically enslaved.

>>83214781
You can't just forget the sentiments held by christians with regards to muslim invasions, though. There's always been a lot of rivalry between christians and muslims, and it had a lot to be with muslims being kind of dicks.

>>83214916
Third crusade is goat crusade faggot

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>>83215246
>>83215270

Alexius has all of the crusader lords swear fealty to him an promise to return the lands conquered by the Muslims to the Byzantine Empire. These had all been Roman, Christian lands. And he was the Emperor of Byzantium, the successor of Eastern Rome.

Bohemond's like "yeah, sure, bud. Whatever." The other crusader lords do the same -- kneel, swear fealty, etc. And head on out into Turkey. In Turkey, the crusaders already face resistance, but Bohemond kicks ass and takes names and defeats the "Danishmeds" at a big battle that kinda scatters the Turks to the winds and leaves their path open to the Holy Land. This was compounded by the fact that, like in feudal Europe, all of the muslim lords were constantly competing with and fighting eachother.

Baldwin, good old Godfrey's brother, senses opportunity. He takes his knights and heads off into the middle of fucking nowhere, going east instead of south. The other crusaders are all "BRO, THE FUCK" but he just lays siege to and takes over Edessa, establishing the first Crusader State, the County of Edessa.

Bohemond leads the crusaders to Antioch, one of the great cities of the holy land and center of one of the Patriarchates of the Church. He lays siege to the city, takes it over, and promptly gives Alexius the bird, saying he is the Prince of Antioch now, ruling it for himself, and deciding to give no tribute to Alexius. The other crusaders are kind of at a loss for what to do now. They'd been relying on the Byzantine navy and Byzantine troop support, and now their leading officer has singlehandedly shat all over that support and washed it down the drain. But Godfrey was not to be deterred. He was a man who believed in the cause, in God, and in the importance of saving Christendom from the muslim invaders. So he kept going.

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>>83215270
>>83215246
>>83215299

Eventually, the Crusaders manage to take control of nearly the entire coastal area of Lebanon, Syria, Israel, etc. as well as parts of Jordan. They realize there's no hope the Byzantines will treat with them, so they choose to establish a Kingdom of God... but a kingdom needs a king. And who better than Godfrey?

Godfrey says 'No.' The Kingdom of God has a King and his name is Jesus Christ, Our Savior. Instead, Gofrey allows them to give him the title of "Defender of the Holy Sepulchre," a sort of "Steward Denethor" until the return of God-King Jesus. The Muslims are pissed because all of this rich land they just took is now back in Christian hands. Even more embarrassing, contemporary Muslim scholars note that Muslim farmers actually seem happier and more productive under crusader lords than under the Muslim despots who treated them like slaves.

Eventually, Raymond dies, then Godfrey too. And for lack of a better alternative, the crusaders turn to Godfrey's brother, Baldwin, as his successor. Baldwin has no problem being crowned "King of Jerusalem," and so begins the line of Kings, ruling from Jerusalem, and the Crusader States are well and truly formed.

DUDE DEUS VULT LMAO!
IS ANYONE HERE REDPILLED ON MUDSLIMS (HAHA GOTTEM) TOO???
ANYWAY ARYAN CHRISTIAN 4EVER LOVE /POL/.
DEUS VULT HAIL GOD EMPEROR DRUMPF!!
LAUREN SOUTHERN BEST WAIFU, MSM KEKS BTFO.
FUCK CROOKED KILLARY AMIRIGHT???
BLACKED DEUS VULT DEUS VULT LOL LMAO.

>>83215351
shut up fag

>>83215270
>Alexius's teenage daughter, Anna Comnena.
I'd cum on that nina, if you know what I mean.

>>83212475
>tfw there will never be a movie about the northern crusades

>>83215243
Don't want to show a prospering Christian empire in the middle ages now would we, goy?

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>>83215487
this saddens me the most. I love the Teutonic knights

>>83215283
>Third crusade is goat crusade
>failed to capture Jerusalem
>goat
lmao

>>83215351
>LAUREN SOUTHERN BEST WAIFU
Lauren is a man, you retard. He's husbando.

>>83215487
Alexander Nevsky?

DAYUS BULT xD xD

lol fuck off you alt right larpers

>>83215626
>not appreciating the bromance rivalry between Richard and Saladin
>not appreciating the fine art of warfare perfected ti the degree it was by two master tacticians and strategists
>not appreciating that Richard regained control of at least some of the holy land despite going up against one of the finest military commanders and politicians of that age

faggot

>>83215838
calm down

The Crusaders will literally nothing more than a bunch of religious fanatics, that made a failed attempt at taking back the middle east back from the muslims, but instead they sacked Istanbul and paved the way for The Turks to BTFO the Byzantine Empire. ''Deus Vult'' is the Christian version of ''Allah Akbar'' also, contrary to the whitewashing they get from the people who Lionize them, they were just as barbaric and savage as modern day ISIS.
>Many Muslims sought shelter in the Al-Aqsa Mosque, the Dome of the Rock, and the Temple Mount area generally. According to the Gesta Francorum, speaking only of the Temple Mount area, "...[our men] were killing and slaying even to the Temple of Solomon, where the slaughter was so great that our men waded in blood up to their ankles..." According to Raymond of Aguilers, also writing solely of the Temple Mount area, " in the Temple and porch of Solomon men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins." Writing about the Temple Mount area alone Fulcher of Chartres, who was not an eyewitness to the Jerusalem siege because he had stayed with Baldwin in Edessa at the time, says: "In this temple 10,000 were killed. Indeed, if you had been there you would have seen our feet coloured to our ankles with the blood of the slain. But what more shall I relate? None of them were left alive; neither women nor children were spared."
The eyewitness Gesta Francorum states that some people were spared. Its anonymous author wrote, "When the pagans had been overcome, our men seized great numbers, both men and women, either killing them or keeping them captive, as they wished." Later the same source writes, "[Our leaders] also ordered all the Saracen dead to be cast outside because of the great stench, since the whole city was filled with their corpses; and so the living Saracens dragged the dead before the exits of the gates and arranged them in heaps, as if they were houses. No one ever saw or heard of such slaughter of pagan people.

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>>83215487
>>83215619
but there is dingus, and its fucking great
>>83215799

>>83213782
That crusade was revenge for Massacre of the Latins. Byzbos were worse that muslims.

>>83217003
ok Ahmed, calm down.

>>83212475
when will we see a 4th crusade movie that depicts the venitians as they really were, bastard jews

>>83217003
What's your point? Men were savage back then and insensitive, they were born and bred to fight and kill, and instill fear and doubt into their enemies. And if due payments are not handed over to such people, they will surely protest in a grotesque way. The Byzantines should have paid the Venetians if they didn't want their city to get sacked.

>>83217249
Not an ahmed nor an a Muslim. i'm an a atheist.

>>83215322
Thanks for the rundown senpai. How were the crusader states eventually lost to muslims again?

>>83217321
>What's your point?
Don't try to glorify armed religious thugs just because they are from the same side you are, The Crusaders you love were just as batshit insane and cruel as the Islamists you hate.

>>83217163
>russian propaganda
>great

>>83217003
>Istanbul

>>83217639
Yes Istanbul, the name the people who currently own it call it. Is there a problem?

>>83215351
>all this unrepentant butt rage
Quite uncivilized I do say.

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How would a Hollywood film about the Reconquista be if made today?

>>83217432
I'm a non-christian middle eastern.

If anything I should be siding with Muslim Conquestors. Yet I too know they were just as ruthless. Because if they weren't, they would have never been able to take back Jerusalem. Yet in the midst of all that, Saladin and King Baldwin II could talk to each other as human beings.

Wanting to know more about the lives of such men is not the same as glorifying them. There is some level of respect to be held.

>>83217681
Istanbul wasn't a thing before 1923. It's proper name is Constantinople

>>83217432
>The Crusaders you love were just as batshit insane and cruel as the Islamists you hate.
Guess that's why Muslim farmers preferred crusader rule over the Muslim Lords.

>>83215243
1) most people are too stupid to even understand something like the byzantine empire even existed, let alone existed for 1500 years.

2) The empire was heavily religious. It was also filled to the brim with intrigue, betrayal, backstabbing, palace murders, torture brutality etc. This kind of moral duality does not sit well with people

3) Non-stop warfare with invaders (esp muslims)

4) Non-stop civil wars for the throne

last and most important:
5) "what ever happened to the byzantine empire"? Oh. It fell to a muslim invasion. Its people were subject to occupation for 400 years. Other christian nations only sent almost no help to their coreligionists.
"How did it happen?" A western christian joint army, a crusader force attacked Byzantium and damaged it permanently.

Any story about Byzantium has elements in it that do not fit today's pushed narratives.
Ultimately however, any story you tell on the empire would be about moral decay, betrayal and the fall of Christianity.

Christian ideological underpinnings form the basis of modern-day western thought. To make a movie about the fall of Christianity to outsiders is to make a movie about the death of love, the death of kindness, the death of morality, the death of the west.

>>83217900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi0Rt0slfy4

>>83212475
unlikely given the current political climate

>>83217916
>Guess that's why Muslim farmers preferred crusader rule over the Muslim Lords.
Yes, i'm sure they loved the foreign thugs that were slaughtering them left and right.

>>83212945
Europeans wasting their time and money trying to conquer shitty desert lands due to their devotion to a Semitic religion that came from those shitty desert lands.

>>83218016
>foreign thugs
You just described the Arabs

>>83217900
>stanbul wasn't a thing before 1923. It's proper name is Constantinople
Doesn't matter, Istanbul is it's modern name. You want it to be called Constantinople? then try to take it back.

>>83214556
Outcast. 5% on Rotten Tomatoes.

>>83218055
Nobody cares what you think either, especially when historians prefer to call it Constantinople instead of Istanbul when referring to historical context.

Related question: are there any movie I can watch about mudslims and shitskins getting killed, possibly by swords?

>>83218055
>take it back

Dubs speak truth. It's time for a new crusade.

>>83218054
Nah i just described the european christians, also the muslims that were ruling them weren't Arab. They were Turks and Kurds like Saladin and Nur al Din Zengi.

>>83218150
And who were the ones who were ruling the area before the Turks came?

>>83217361
See Kingdom of Heaven

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>>83218202
The Egyptian Shia Fatimids that ruled from Cairo.

>>83218042
I. You are a retard.
II. The Fertile Crescent is not exactly a desert.
III. Christianity is logos, it isn't and never was just a "Semitic" or "Abrahamic" religion, they started using the term Judaeo-Christian only in the latter half of the 20th century.
IV. Territorial expansion and spreading of civilisation is never a waste of resources.
V. You are a retard. (bis)

>>83217900
Why did Constantinople get the works? Thats nobody's business but the turks!

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>>83218313
...who were Arabs

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>>83218314
>it isn't and never was just a "Semitic" or "Abrahamic" religion

>>83218150
What kind of stupid do you have to be to try to dissociate Islam from Arabs?

>>83217698
reconquista took place over centuries

>>83218400
And that doesn't because bu that time, the Arab conquests have happend more than 300 years ago, everybody they ruled over was Arabized and related more to their Muslim fellows then to the foreign european christians.

>>83217941
>filled to the brim with intrigue, betrayal, backstabbing, palace murders, torture brutality etc. This kind of moral duality does not sit well with people
That's the kind of shit people love. The average Joe doesn't know Caesar because his military campaigns but because he was stabbed in the back by a friend acting at the behest of a conspiracy.
Fuck intrigue is the most interesting thing about ANY royal court, religious or otherwise.
And if its an issue of christianity/Catholicism then why hasn't that stopped movies from being made about Henry VIII (i am i am) and the anglican church?

>>83218451
Arabs are a particular group of peoples, islam is an evangelical religion.
Not all muslims are arab.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo
(you)

>>83218451
Nothing Idiotic about what i said. The majority of Muslims are non-Arab, and most of the people who fought for Islam weren't Arab. Saladin was a Kurd, Nur al din Zengi was a Turk, and Ali ibn Tariq was a Berber.

>>83218424
From the moment the Christ trascends the material, which is a central point of all Semitic religions, Christianity stops being a traditional Semitic religion. Your point?

>>83218533
Actually it does matter, the Arabs managed to hold on their claims so long and assimilate the natives because they had no opposition, while the Crusaders were already facing a powerful and united enemy. They're both foreign thugs to the area and one of them got away with it because they took advantage of two weakened entities

>>83218123
Bump

>>83218314

You're an idiot, Christianity is literally a religion from slaves. Gnostic's are some of the first encounters in europe while Romans were feeding these fuckers to lions.

Go read Nietzsche if you think so highly of Christianity.

>>83217481
>Battleship Potemkin
>Not great
Imagine being this much of a cinematic pleb.
https://youtu.be/7TgWoSHUn8c

>>83218713
Yeah right, but culturally how would describe these people? Even if they are ethnically not Arabs, Islam was unlike Christianity in that it highly shaped the secular culture of those peoples Arabizing it.

>>83218314
>II. The Fertile Crescent is not exactly a desert.
Literally climate change, and several thousand years of aggregated irrigation (backfilled by goddamn mongorians) is what made it the fertile crescent.

>>83218818
>hey're both foreign thugs to the area and one of them got away with it
Not really, by the time the first crusade happend, the muslims from the levant spoke Arab and identified as Arab. They saw the Crusaders as foreign thugs who are slaughtering them and fellow Muslims like Saladin and Nur al din Zengi as saviors.

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>>83212475
Which crusade went to Tatooine?

>>83218872
>Go read Nietzsche

lmao, what are you, 12 or fedora?

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>>83212475
The crusades are a shit setting. I say this while larping as deus vult (also crusaders did virtually nothing wrong, especially taking over the Greek capital which more than asked for it).
The recent resurgence in interest is wholly due to the clash-of-culture element to it, which is quite awful if you are not either passionate about diplomacy or a postmodern leftist.

If you want a medieval subject, there is so much to be done, both historical and fiction of the time, and more interesting than the crusades.

>>83217361
Corruption, incompetence, and infighting. Antioch kept quarreling with Byzantium. They were no longer led by crusading lords but by the sons and daughters and descendants of those original lords.

>>83217432
This is a fallacy. The crusader lords were far better.

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>>83212511
Cage has never been JUST

>worshipping a dead guy on a stick

lol you guys

>>83219147
>This is a fallacy. The crusader lords were far better.
>Lol what you said is a fallacy because i said so.
Bravo sir. You have truely refuted my point.

>>83212945

Christcucks getting trolled into risking their lives for a bowl of sand that is important to the (((people))) who send them there to do the fighting for them.

>>83218904
It's mediocre Soviet propaganda. There's much better propaganda and non-propaganda films from the Soviet Union. If you shill for Eisenstein you are probably a commie, a pleb or both.

>>83217361
>Thanks for the rundown senpai. How were the crusader states eventually lost to muslims again?
Crusaders had to face 20 muslim armies in the space between the first and second crusade, all of them more numerous than them.
The miracle is how they even fucking stayed 200 years there.
Crusaders failed because they followed a mix of conciliation (instead of just purging left and right, which meant their lands were always unstable) and failure to reach critical mass (the actual Frank population in the Levant was small, and most of them married levantine women) which combined with their conciliatory attitude meant that the "activist" part of the crusader state was always very weak.

Joshua Prawer is probably the best historian about this subject. He goes on a long comparison with the conditions, objectives and means of the crusaders and the state of Israel, and why the second managed to do what the previous failed.

>>83219256
Why would there be any need for an argument when you just bluntly stated they were worse? The burden of proof is on you.

>>83212475
That was terrible. It's like Hayden Christensen was determined not to improve anyone's expectations of him

>>83219333
Trips of truth. I get that Eisenstein was the first to use a few tricks and he made one kino scene (the army chasing the protest on the marches in Potemkin, which ironically is the one scene that never happened). But overall he's shit.

>>83212945

A conflict provoked by the instigation of a Pope which glorified the killing of those who weren't part of the christian faith with the aim of ''''recovering'''' lands that weren't theirs in the first place.

Ironically, what started as a disorganized mob of warriors (Islam during the first crusade) ended like the most powerful army in the world, defeating the Mongols by the seventh.

So not only couldn't they weak Islam they made it stronger in the end.

>>83219454
I proofed my point in this post>>83217003
The Crusaders that you glorify and whitewash were just as barbaric and cruel as modern ISIS. Now provide me with proof that the Crusaders were ''better''.

>>83219265
Did you feel smarter while you were writing this post?

>>83219755

Well hes partially telling the truth.

What, you think the crusades were amazing and that those christian warriors dindu nothing?

>>83219411
>objectives and means of the crusaders and the state of Israel, and why the second managed to do what the previous failed.
Israel has only survived for 75 thus far, the Crusader state survived for more than 200 years. Lets see if Israel will exist 130 years from now.

>>83218123
you're an edgy guy

This it's the most intellectual non porn thread, I ever seen on /tv/.

>>83219826
the whole point of the Crusades were to aid the Byzantines against the Seljuks and they did, but what happened later wasn't part of the plan

>>83219947
Was getting sacked part of their plan?

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daily reminder you cant not deus vult if your are protestant

Catholics only

>>83220215
you mean only catholics can not deus vult?

>The Crusaders looted, terrorized, and vandalized Constantinople for three days, during which many ancient and medieval Roman and Greek works were either stolen or destroyed. The famous bronze horses from the Hippodrome were sent back to adorn the façade of St Mark's Basilica in Venice, where they remain. As well as being stolen, works of immeasurable artistic value were destroyed merely for their material value. One of the most precious works to suffer such a fate was a large bronze statue of Hercules, created by the legendary Lysippos, court sculptor of Alexander the Great. Like so many other priceless artworks made of bronze, the statue was melted down for its content by the Crusaders. The great Library of Constantinople was destroyed as well.
Despite their oaths and the threat of excommunication, the Crusaders systematically violated the city's holy sanctuaries, destroying or stealing all they could lay hands on; nothing was spared, not even the tombs of the emperors inside the St Apostles church. The civilian population of Constantinople were subject to the Crusaders' ruthless lust for spoils and glory; thousands of them were killed in cold blood. Women, even nuns, were raped by the Crusader army, which also sacked churches, monasteries and convents. The very altars of these churches were smashed and torn to pieces for their gold and marble by the warriors. Although the Venetians engaged in looting too, their actions were far more restrained. Doge Dandolo still appeared to have far more control over his men. Rather than wantonly destroying all around like their comrades, the Venetians stole religious relics and works of art, which they would later take to Venice to adorn their own churches,
It was said that the total amount looted from Constantinople was about 900,000 silver marks, or 600,000 troy pounds. The Venetians received 150,000 silver marks that was their due and the Crusaders received 50,000 silver marks.
What a bunch of fucking thugs.

>>83220384
tl;dr
Not gonna read this shit form this fucking Turkroach.

>>83220428

>LARPing

Ah you only read the stuff posted by your other friends in your echo chamber so you can perpetuate the fantasy world you live in?

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>>83220473
>Turkroach
>Talking about "fantasy world"
Fucking lmao. Fuck off, Muslim shit.

I think a good movie based on the crusades would be the Knights Templar.

The Knights Templar was set up in the crusader states after the first crusade. And as you can imagine, many Christians from Europe would begin pilgrimages to Jerusalem during this time. The main issue with this was the length of the journey and the dangers involved going across multiple kingdoms on the way there, many pilgrims were robbed and killed on the way there.

In 1119, a small group of knights led by Hughes de Payens propose to King Baldwin II of Jerusalem to build a headquarters there for their group.

Initially the Knights Templar were poor but over time gained recognition for their assistance in journeys embarked by European pilgrims to the holy land. They eventually become an important institution throughout the entire history of the crusader states, for around 200 years. They become renown through medieval Europe receiving many donations from various kingdoms.

At some point they formed an institution and sprawling financial enterprise, including the worlds first banking system. Pilgrims could deposit gold at their headquarters in London, and were given a note (essentially an IOU), which could be exchanged at Jerusalem for all their gold back. It was quite a powerful idea at the time, considering the level of trust it would take to go ahead with such a thing.

Eventually they had many deposits at their headquarters from various pilgrims, this gave them the ability to provide loans to some powerful individuals such as kings and nobles. By 1244, the Muslims had taken back Jerusalem for good, so the initial purposes of the Knights Templar was lost. But they still carried on as a financial institution in Europe.

>>83218614
Based Bill Warner

>>83220384
That's what you get for the Latin Massacre, pay debts.

>>83218872
Yes read the great prophet Nietzsche Goy

>>83213058
Literally did not happen, please pick up a book for once

Spoiler: Byzantines were treacherous, devious cunts since before the first crusade, and constantly stabbed them in the back.

>>83213058
>falling for the Byzantine meme
>STILL blaming Catholicism

>>83217003
>they were just as barbaric and savage as modern day ISIS.
Stop looking at history through contemporary morality. They were no less savage than any other army of the time.

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>>83221206
In the early 14th century, King Philip IV of France who had accumulated a vast amount of debt going to war with English, approaches the Knights Templar for a loan to finance his war. Infact, he had taken many loans from various people. He eventually realised that not only can he arrest the people he owes money to, he can seize their assets. This is exactly what he does to the Knights Templar on a Friday 13th in 1307 he arrests many Knights Templars, including the grand master of the knights, Jacques de Molay.

The king tortured them, forcing them to confess that Philip IV doesn't owe them any money. The Knights decide to retract this statement, and basically all get burnt alive on the stake.

just dust off walon green's screenplay CRUSADE (once a schwarzenegger/verhoeven project) and get neil marshall on that shit if you are too afraid to get verhoeven back. not sure who'd be able to pull off Hagen though now that the Schwarz is a flabby grandpa. certainly none of the numale "action stars" we have now.

>>83220547
I wonder how much Turk propaganda must be in this movie.

I guess they don't show the bit where they massacre everyone in the city, rape all the women, sell children to slave merchants and burn everything to the ground in the span of 3 days?

>>83221304
>>83221339
t. (((Venetians)))

>>83217361
What everyone else said + lack of numbers
Despite claims that the crusades were opportunists and early colonizers, most of the surviving soldiers and knights went home.

Some of the later crusades were done with the intent of delivering a "knock-out blow" to the anti-christian nations in order to make the crusader states become self-sufficient. A lot of tax money in europe went to the crusades, after all, and people were getting fed up.

>>83221484
Greeks conspired with muslims against crusaders all the time, orthodox christians often despised catholics and the treatment of the Greeks to the catholics during the 4th crusade can easily be considered treachery

Constantinople had been sacked plenty of times before the fourth crusade and often far worse. The idea that this one act single handedly weakened the empire forever, opening the door to the Turkish invasion is laughable at best

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>anakin has a boyband haircut in a movie about the crusades

>>83215185
a fucking saber in armoured combat? wheew

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>>83215185

I too would like a film about Byzantines getting repeatedly BTFO by adherents of the true faith

>>83221875
>Turkish scum shitposting
Kys. How's that Ottoman Empire? Oh wait.

>>83218400
There is any kino about Carlos el Hechizado?

>>83218123
Oh come on, there's gotta be something. At least a flash cartoon or sth

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>>83221671
>Constantinople had been sacked plenty of times before the fourth crusade and often far worse.
prove it

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>>83221875
I'd rather see a movie about how the Arabs got their shit pushed in after the Byzantines got themselves together.

When will we get a film that protrays the Muslims as they truely were, black africans

>>83220109
OF COURSH

>>83220215
>Being a papist
>Ever
Get fucked, you idolatrous whores of Babylon.

>>83212812
Pope wanted to channel the militaristic feudal lord's bloodlust into something more constructive. It could also be seen as a reconquest of Christian lands lost during the Arab invasion into the Eastern Roman Empire.

>instead of killing each other you bastards, go kill some Muslims and steal their gold

>>83219617
>recovering'''' lands that weren't theirs in the first place

It wasn't the Muslims land in the first place either. That is a contentious and pointless statement to make because we don't know who the original inhabitants of the Levant were and if we did they were probably just goat hearders that don't exist anymore. The Romans owned the land before the Arabs, Jews before the Romans, Hellenes before the Jews, Persians before the Hellenes, ad nauseum.

>>83215322
Good shit any books you recommend on the crusades? It's one of my favorite periods in history.

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>>83215322
>Even more embarrassing, contemporary Muslim scholars note that Muslim farmers actually seem happier and more productive under crusader lords than under the Muslim despots who treated them like slaves.

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>ITT

why don't you betas go back to /pol/?

>>83215487
Man, I just want a Reconquista movie. Sadly nobody cares about the Iberian kingdoms of that age.

>>83225419
>Triggered Turkroach
Lmao.

>>83225482
Watch El Cid.

>deus vult larpers claiming that their holy war to conquer land that they're not indigenous to was justified while getting asspained at rapefugees

really activates my almonds

>>83217346
God you're even worse then. War sucks and it's pointless to kill for the same god, we get it. Now don't go all intelrectal on those of us who have someone to pray to.

>>83225649
>arabs were indigenous to the Levant

LMAO my sides

>>83226543
>That scene
My benis, a thousand shimmering diamonds.

>>83226543
Can you imagine the heat. How are you supposed to fight and kill in such conditions?

>>83226863
The armour usually weight somewhere between 10-20kg

Hopefully not for a very long, I would hate to see them be degenerated like everything else in this modern age.

>wanting CURRENT Hollywood to make a movie about a topic out of a right-wing fantasy without corrupting it
They'd corrupt it on purpose just to fuck with history.