Do you blame the actor or the script?

i blame god

The script. Even Daniel Day Lewis couldn't make that asinine dialogue sound villainous.

I thought he was good.

>>83198114
Blompf

I blame the jug of piss

I genuinely believe Eisenberg would've made a great young Luthor.
If only he had been played straight, serious and to the point instead of this... ADHD mess.

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>or

I understand what they were going for with this version of Lex. The ultra-smart, ADHD tech mogul. Eisenburg was incredibly annoying but I think that was on purpose. The script wasn't great but I see what they were going for.

It was a terrible choice though. It's obvious to us in hindsight, and might not be obvious if we went back to pre-production.

I want a suave businessman Idris Elba Lex like from the animated series

>>83198114

I thought he was great. It convinced me that he needs to take darker roles similar to how Jake Gyllen-whatever seems to favor them now. He has the charisma for being puerile and villainous at the same time.

>>83198400
>I want a suave businessman Idris Elba Lex like from the animated series
You had me believing you until you had to bring in your BLACKED cuck bullshit

>>83198114
Both were on point desu

I liked him

>>83198114
I liked it

>>83198225
This

>13 replies
>all are positive
>2 posters

I want Zach Snyder to leave.

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Do you blame the actor or the script.

actor

both

>>83198906
the director, the script, the actor

in this order

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I can't say because I haven't seen him act as punshied luther yet.

>>83198114

I blame the critics for not getting it.

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>>83198114
Billy Zane is the only choice for a modern Lex.
He can achieve the physical body (see Phantom)[90s Capeshit, before standards set by Thor, Wolverine and Supes]
The look [Bald for the last 15 years easily]
The deep voice and most of all articulate.

He is balls deep in B Grade kino for a decade now, but he could have a Downey Jnr/Rourke reprisal just as easily.

>>83199070
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>>83198114
Both were great my family.

>>83198463
Idris Elba can actually pull off a suave yet cold and calculating business-man/villain though. He would be perfect.

>>83198114
The Jews, so both him and the scriptwriter.

>>83198463
He's the villain.
How is it cucked to make him black?

>>83198114
In this case, both.

>>83198114
Both, they're both responsible for making this god-tier character.

Literally one of the best villans ever imo

>>83198114
Do you blame the bell or the one who dings it?

I enjoyed Lex, but holy hell whiever approved that Jolly Rancher scene schould be blacklisted.

>>83198114
Both. The writing was shit tier, and Eisenbergs mannerisms just didn't fit the character of Lex at all.

>>83198114
The script was horrendous but eisenberg just came off as a 12 year old trying to annoy someone into paying attention to him. So i also blame snyder since that isn't even what the shit story called for.

>>83199083
Perfect casting choice

Luthor was great, what was wrong with him?

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>>83198136
Balme yourself for not getting a god-tier movie with a god-tier script and god-tier acting

>>83199083
he looks the part but he cant act for shit

>83199632
What did anon mean by this?

>>83199658
His butt is in terrible pain.

>>83199632
>couldn't even get dubs

Bad meme anon

>>83199657
>Can't act for shit.

Tombstone.
The first sniper.
Titanic.

It depends on the director. He can act, they just have to push him to decent performance.

>>83198114
Neither, we need more kino representations of extreme high functioning autism.

>>83199658
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>>83199972
>b-but muh memes!
It's an actually good movie.

>>83198114
He is a great actor and he did a good job playing the role the way he was directed to do so.
Problem is, what they were going for was at its core a really shitty idea so it was going to be off no matter what.
I think Eisenberg is a great actor but his Lex is the only thing not fixed by the Ultimate Edition

neither, you blame the director

>>83200210
Him and Doomsday.

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>>83200361
Can you actually back any of that up with facts?

hell no.

>>83198114
I genuinely enjoyed his performance and lex as a whole. There were some parts that were cringe worthy like the ding ding scene.

I think people hate him because
1. Its eisenberg
2. Its twink lex not JLU lex
3. Its not Brian Cranston meme

>>83200192
No it's not

>>83200404
>>83200394

Sperging out as his own party was the last straw. Snyder/Goyer/whoever really let that shit in the final draft? Not even Zuckerberg is that embarrassing in public.

>>83200404
Not that anon but Imo its the best capeshit in a very long time

>>83200394
why is cavil so CUTE!

>>83200433
That's because Zuckerberg is a jew, not an autist.

The fact he was played like an autist in a movie by the same actor is merely an attempt to portray Zuckerberg's pathological contempt for others as cutesy nerd shit.

>>83200394
Nigga all they has to do is dump wheel chair guy in that baby juice then make doomsday purple and call him parasite. But they fucked that up

>>83199070

FUCKING THIS.


Also the sheep for following.

>>83201022
Sounds like you could use a cherry jolly rancher.

>>83200394
Either God it's present and he allowed this piece of shit to exist.

Or he doesn't exist creating a directioneless universe that births this kind of crap.

Either way it's his fault.

>>83201068

Thank you.

>>83201095
Or maybe god has a plan

>>83201095
>>83200963
Literally non-arguments.

How much are you being paid?

BOTH

Knowing this was a troubled production, I could believe that the movie could have started with 'Lex is this ADHD weirdo who doesn't know why he has these impulses to fuck with people' and I could see the scene where Lex trails off awkwardly during his speech as 'Okay Jessie, the people are going to see this is a different Lex Luthor now, make him robotic and distracted'. Then later they came back with MORE revisions and MORE rewrites and said 'Okay Jessie, Lex is actually now a guy grasping at intense judeo christian religious symbology and fuels his hate for Superman through that lens, also he was maybe beaten/molested by his father? I dunno, we're on complete rewrite eight now, read the damn lines, I know this is a another scene we've filmed but we'll pick the Lex we want to use in post'.

At the same time, I watch Raul Julia as M. Bison in that terrible Street Fighter movie and he is immaculate, just delivering lines one after the other that are mind bogglingly silly with gravitas. Jessie Eisenberg was a complete miscasting, even for the Mark Zuckerburg version of Lex Luthor. Hey! I got an idea! Lets cast one of the kids from Stranger Things as Jonah Hex! This idea isn't doomed from the start!

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He was perfect.

>>83201351
>Lex is this ADHD weirdo who doesn't know why he has these impulses to fuck with people
Lex's motivation for pitting Batman against Superman was quite simply that both were a pain in his ass, systemically disrupting his criminal underground.

>>83201330
Not enough considering I thought of a better way to introduce a secondary villain than people who are getting paid millions of dollars did.

>>83201351

>t. someone who didn't ge the character or the movie AT ALL

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>>83201420
Also, not an argument.

>>83201351
I guess its Both Raul Julia is proof that you can work through a shot script.

>>83201641
Raul Julia lines were perfect.

OF COURSE.

>>83201715
For him it was only Tuesday.

>>83198114
I blame the people who go to see this movies

>>83198114
Actor. Although in this case there was definitely some problems with the script

>>83199563
It was a power move desu. Showed that by getting him to eat a candy, he could get him to do whatever he wanted. Including approving zods body and private access to the ship.

>>83200394
Wh...whats he doing to that batbooty?

>>83199632
>>83200394
>being this assblasted because not everyone shares your stupid opinion
top kek

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>>83202067
what do you think?

>>83202458
>I just dislike it cuz REASONS lmao

>>83202613
Beating a dead horse is significantly more difficult when you are typing on a cell phone.

I liked him. A lot, actually. He wasn't intimidating but he played the entitled dweeby rich kid with delusions of grandeur pretty well.

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>>83202726
>phoneposter
kys right now

Character.

Lex Luthor would have been fine if someone like an actor the same age as Ben like if Billy Crudup got the role. I could see him pulling those lines off with ease.

>>83198114
The script and the director. For all we know Eisenberg had a great Lex in him, but we got what Snyder wanted.

>>83198225
How do you know it wasn't actually tea?