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Why the HELL does this have so much praise?

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Can someone PLEASE explain to me why the hell this show's reboot has good reviews so far? It is a pile of psychedelic bullshit that has NO explanation and little cohesion. Kind of like ... THE END OF THE SECOND SEASON. YOUR THOUGHTS?

>but anon, the cinematography and delivery are so original

BULLSHIT. That doesn't make up for all of the ambiguous crap they throw in all the time, and the images of free association all over the damn place (yeah, I'm looking at you, Mr. Unicorn). Honestly I'd be happy if someone could change my mind.
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>>83182153
You are babby
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>>83182153
Because people pretend to like Lynch tlo appar smart.
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>>83182153
Look at big babby man haha
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>>83182178
/thread
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>waaaah i dun gedit plz spoonfeed me
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>>83182153
Did the man take babby's lolipop or what is the reason
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Honestly 80% of the show is dragged out lacky content, fucking shit

You can delude yourself that there's art and deeper meaning into staring at nothing happening for 5 minutes in every scene but thats just fucking retarded
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watch out OP you're gonna get attacked by then redditors from the subgeneral. lynchbabbys can't handle criticism
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>>83182176
/thread
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>>83182153
>another pleb Lynched
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>>83182250
I know they can't, that's why I put it here. But I forgot the Reddit invasion is all but over...
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OP more retarded than dougie jones lmao
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It's actually very straightforward with some surreal stuff added in. And we still have 14 episodes left for the plot threads shown in the first 4 episodes to be resolved. It's getting good reviews just like most things Lynch has put out because people like Lynch's style.
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>>83182153
>Can someone PLEASE explain to me why the hell this show's reboot has good reviews so far?
I think it's much better than most people expected it to be.

>bullshit that has NO explanation and little cohesion
Oh boy.
Season 3 actually explains A LOT in comparison to the original or other surreal/Lynch movies.
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>>83182367
The random jive in the Black Lodge with the women with no eyes and his descent through space and pretty much EVERYTHING in episode 3 so far seems to be oddball spontaneous crap like the stuff in the second season, like the way Packard gets turned into a freaking doorknob and the whole Giant thing.

...

I guess I mean they just insert whatever they feel like it because it's some supernatural realm and so it's really boring because it's just whatever they wanna throw up on the screen.
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>>83182449
What's much more bizarre is how utterly weird you write.
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>>83182354
I did notice that some things are made a little more obvious, with less beat-around-the-bush dialogue than in the original series. But the surreal stuff really gets on my nerves, it seems to be an easy crutch for the writers whenever they need to make plot points meet. I hope, like you say, the remaining episodes make sense of it...
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>>83182449
>expecting an interdimensional space that is basically hell to not be weird

Go away retard.
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>>83182496
Just look at my writing as a derivative of Lynchian style.... JUST AS COHERENT AS THE PLOT...
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>>83182550
Look, Mac, it's a given it's weird. I'm saying it's easy to make up whatever you want to suit the narrative with it. It ruins the integrity of the plot, for me, because there's no meaningful thought thrown at plot developments, it could now be
> "We need Cooper back in the story."
> "Well, he has to make it out of the Black Lodge."
> "Okay, make a freaky trip through some other dimension that eventually leads him through an outlet into some doppelganger's apartment. Oh, never mind the fact he now has two doppelgangers."

I like Season 1 better...
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>>83182672
You sound like a pleb. The Black Lodge shouldn't make sense.
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>>83182153
Because it's good and most of all, original
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>>83182727
hahahahahahahah
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>>83182672
The way you're arguing makes me think that despite you saying that you like season 1 that you would be arguing that Cooper's dream of the Black Lodge was also random bullshit that doesn't serve the plot, among other parts of it. You're only okay with it now because you've seen all the episodes while you're saying stuff doesn't make sense now after watching 4 of 18 episodes.
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>>83182774
I thought about that, too. The dream really threw me off, and I watched onward because I didn't think there'd be such a huge dependency on the stuff in it. But then it became the center point in the second season. The first season seemed really focused on the more corporeal connections, i.e., the drug ring, One-Eyed Jack's. I never said Season 1 was flawless, but the style and the character dynamics kept me hooked, and also the legitimate, non-supernatural developments.
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>>83182153
I have watched most of Lynch's productions, but it IS rated too high. I think it's because of the memes (pic related). There is some terrible acting by some cast members, and the back half of season two is tedious to view (especially a second time).

However, IMDB, like many similar Internet rating systems, is really poor at properly adjudicating quality of anything.
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>>83182153
>NO explanation and little cohesion
Seriously? Some of the sequences are a little out there, but after they're over the overall purpose is pretty clear if not exactly what everything in them means. But aside from that I'd say 90% of what's happening is pretty straight forward if you watched the original show
>Murder Investigation that was most likely done by BOB
>Bad Cooper is being bad and trying to avoid being pulled back into the lodge
>Good Cooper got out of the Lodge but it fucked him up
>Log Lady lets Hawk know that things are going to start happening again, even if he doesn't know exactly what
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>>83183039
You've got a good point there, there is more explanation than I thought. Albeit, Cooper acting weird (pic related) was vague to me. What kind of teases me off is the small amount of the show these developments actually take up, 'cuz the rest, besides the investigation of Ruth Davenport, seems like a boatload of filler that puts me to sleep.
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>>83182153
>THE END OF THE SECOND SEASON
That's not fair - it went downhill before that
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>>83182153
It wasn't a unicorn it was a white steed. That's usually symbolic for death
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>>83182153
>NO explanation and little cohesion

It's very simple my friend. You are just dumb as bricks. Not literally you are just too stupid to compherend it. Not your fault. You dad had bad genes. You are a human waste.
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>>83183268
Alright, then explain it to an idiot like me.
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>>83182153
i sure hope we get le retard Cooper doing stuff for 4 more episodes! it's so wacky n goofy just like fargo! helloooooo xD maybe lucy can eat another chocolate bunny in the 5 min twin peaks section
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>>83182153
you just got LYNCHED, boi
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>>83183285
why don't you stop judging the first 4 episodes of an 18 episode mystery like it's already finished? God damn
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>>83182994
>There is some terrible acting by some cast members, and the back half of season two is tedious to view (especially a second time).
this is acknowledged by literally every tp fan
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>>83182672
I think that other doppelganger is something Bob did so that he didn't have to return to the black lodge, so it's possible that we'll get that explained by him or someone else. But if you look at it as Cooper has to escape the black lodge, then this is pretty good. The black lodge is a nonsensical place, so if he escaped the black lodge easily in one episode I would've been pissed, it would've almost contradicted it, that's why I liked it, kinda made the black lodge seem like an actual place with its own rules, which made Cooper being let out that much weirder. If it was rushed it would've probably made less sense
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>>83183493
You make a lot of sense. I hope it pans out to make sense by the end, because the artistic value thus far seems sparse to me.
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>>83182153
>It is a pile of psychedelic bullshit that has NO explanation and little cohesion

There's actually quite a lot of cohesion to the mystical shit in the show.
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>>83183478
not an argument
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>>83183774
yes, because it literally means it is not overrated
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>>83182672
>Bob-Cooper says he is due to be sent back to the Black Lodge, but he has a plan for it
>Dougie gets sent to the Lodge when Goog Cooper returns
>"I think you were made for a purpose, and that purpose has been fulfilled"

They could not have made it any clearer that Dougie was a decoy created by Bob-Cooper so he can avoid being sent back to the lodge.
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>>83183819
It's good, but not 9.5

Internet group rating systems are inherently broken.
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>>83183833
I hope they explain HOW he made Dougie, otherwise it's a throwaway plot point.
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>>83182336
Lmaoooooooo
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to understand season 3, you'd have to watch the first 2 seasons, and the movie. Once you've seen them, the show is pretty easy to digest
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Daily remidner that Bob is actually in Shaggy now. Doppelcoop is another character altogether.
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The original is dreadful as well. It just hasn't held up
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>>83184011
Shit, what? Who the hell is Shaggy? Did I miss something? I swear if this is a Scooby joke...
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>>83183929
Jesus Christ...
Just kill yourself man, not everything has to be explained, very few things in our life are explained.
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>>83184041
...................
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>>83184041
??? are you watching the show?

the principle who killed his lady and the ther guy, is the guy who played shaggy in the live action scooby doo films

see
>>83184119
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>>83184145
>>83184119
...............................................................................................................................................................................................................

Well, shoot.
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>>83184119
FUCK for a sec I thought this could be that guy that played shaggy but I was like

nah
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>>83182153
Twin Peaks itself is incredibly overrated.

I slogged through the first season trying to find what the fuck people go apeshit over, never did. I guess if I'd watched it live when it aired it would've been incredibly original television, but the medium has incorporated TP and moved so far beyond that its just weird 90s camp now.
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>>83182153
Call for help.
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>series just starting
>imma put a 10 on imdb
why do people do this?
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>>83184119
Wait so he got out after him and billy killed all those kids?
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>>83184355
To say they were on the bandwagon first
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>>83184011
Double Zoinks!
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>>83184334
Hell-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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>>83182296
Priceless
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>>83182153
OK, open mouth, spoon is coming....
While I agree Lynch is on the wrong border of surreal content in s03, its not random or plain dumb.
If you look closely , you will see solid plot happens between all the bullshit,
honestly, I feel Lynch wants to force this surreal stuff so people get tired of it so real show can start, because biggest critic about old Twin Peaks was:" why so little black cabin, why so little surreal dwarfs who talk backwards."
Twin Peaks was just soap opera with quirky characters,little crime and humor.
If you watched original Twin Peaks and you remember Mulder cameo from back then, and now, just that was hilarious enough to approve this whole new revival .
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>>83182153
>>83182244
>i need INSTANT action and accessibility!

>>>/xmen/
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>>83183340
yah
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>>83182153
>needing to be spoonfed

Holy shit I'm sick of these low IQ reddit retards who can't pay fucking attention.
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>>83182153
you're just genuinely a pleb
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Fags like OP are the reason the network forced Lynch to reveal Laura's killer so early the first time around.

Kill yourself you dumb pussy
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>>83182153
>under 25 pleb problems

try going to film school
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>>83182153
>psychedelic bullshit that has NO explanation and little cohesion
filter'd and lynch'd
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>>83183929
>he didnt see the gold ignot

fucking generation pleb doesnt know about alchemy.. and paid no attention to wyndham earle either it seems. moron.
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lmao at this drive by shitpost replies from the subgeneral posters. lynch could film someone taking a slow motion shit under a strobe light for an hour and you fags would spout LYNCH'D PLEB
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>>83185326
Enlighten me, then, oh genius of the board.
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>>83182153
I hoping it slowly goes back to comfy coffee and doughnuts.
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>>83185633
Exactly my thoughts.
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Real question and not even directly talking about twin peaks.

Can autists handle surrealism?
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>>83185600
Oh shit, lemme just go read up on some alchemy, that'll REALLY fix the whole show won't it?
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>>83185633
your mother is a whore

there. i just said as much about film as you did. fucking twelve year old. go to school.
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>>83185958
>>AGAIN he paid no attention to wyndham earle

just kys.
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>>83185633
>Lynch could do [something not even remotely similar to what is being complained about] and people would still defend it
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>>83186030
Referencing another shit character from the shit half of the second season. Thanks for playing into my narrative.
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>>83182153
There are enough Twin Peaks fans that will just smash that 10-star button no matter what.

I don't believe in reviews but I'm personally enjoying the season more than any other show on right now, for what it's worth
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the fact that is is so different from anything else alone is enough to praise it.
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>>83183833
>They could not have made it any clearer that Dougie was a decoy created by Bob-Cooper so he can avoid being sent back to the lodge.
Except for the part where Dougie was actually possessed by Mike (the green ring, the dead arm).
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>>83186202
So if anyone did something like what's said here >>83185633
then it's praiseworthy right off the bat, right?
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>>83185633
>someone taking a slow motion shit under a strobe light for an hour
Hey, SPOILERS!
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The best part of Lynch's work is laughing at the butthurt reactions from fags who didn't like it.
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>>83186254
you know, harmony korine gets a lot of praise, but no one cares about trash humpers. if its shit its shit, but saying lynch doesnt know what hes doing and hes just doing weird shit for the sake of being weird then i cant take you serious. even if his storys are not as coherent as people want them to be there is no denying that there are a lot of elements that do have meaning. and there is also no denying that he is able to create a very unique atmosphere that gets to people.

lynch also has made some original music that no one praises or even cares about, but he simply does good work with his films and if you dont see the appeal its maybe not for you.
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>>83182516
>But the surreal stuff really gets on my nerves, it seems to be an easy crutch for the writers whenever they need to make plot points meet.
Holy fuck you never once in your life watched anything made by lynch? That his style, he is like a painter that uses video... oftentimes with very obvious symbolism trown in. He wants you to expieience his show and not just follow some "plot".

Never go full pleb
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>>83182153
same reason X-Files got a good rating

nostalgia by faggots who never really were in to it

god that X-Files reboot was hot garbage, plus the last movie after it
fight the future was the only good one
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>>83186631
This isn't just about following a plot. This is about the actual VALUE behind the show. If I wanted a series of shitty surreal images and events meant to convey some """deep""" meaning, I'd go to a public art gallery in West Hollywood or some other snowflake town. Have YOU derived ANY plausible messages from this show so far that are relevant to you in any way?
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>>83183862
oh the rating debate. I see..

well if we have to rate tv series, I'd rather see Twin Peaks with a 9.5 than fucking Lost or GoT that's for sure. I mean what is a 9.5 tv series anyway? Is there a consensus here to be found?
Twilight Zone? The Simpsons s2? The Sopranos?

Personally I don't care about IMDB's rating. Twin Peaks for me has always been a 10/10 if I must put it this way. It is completely unique and awesomely satisfying for me. that's all I need to know. I am biased of course as I have always loved almost anything by Lynch. Couldn't care less about ratings on popular websites when it comes to Lynch.

But hey if you choose to let ratings ruin your opinion it's your own choice I mean. You care about it and I don't. If Imdb's rating for Twin Peaks was 0/10 it wouldn't affect me one fucking bit, I would still watch the fuck out of it and I certainly wouldn't create a thread about how fucking offended my feelings are with a negative IMDB rating. I mean seriously who the fuck cares? You don't like it then move on anon. The menu is vast nowadays when it comes to tv series. Just be cool anon.
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>>83186919
You're good, anon. I watch it from my own viewpoint and actually do like the newest episodes a good amount. The only thing I don't understand are the people circlejerking on other sites about how awesome the show is, and when asked WHY they think it's awesome so far, all I get is "Uh, well, it's Twin Peaks. Duh." Besides wanting to see what people were thinking, I also wanted to weed out as many Reddit shills as I could for free salt.
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>>83186821
> If I wanted a series of shitty surreal images and events meant to convey some """deep""" meaning, I'd go to a public art gallery in West Hollywood

And why not as a tv series? whats wrong with that? who is the special snowflake really here?

Surrealism for you is exclusively meant in a pedantic art gallery? Dali, Cocteau and Breton would defecate in your mouth if they could hear you say such a cliché.
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>>83182236
what is there to get? it's just a bunch of incoherent shit?
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>>83187174
I didn't know that Twin Peaks was solely meant to be a shithole for surreal imagery now. I thought it was a spectrum of genres all panned out in an idiosyncratic format. Guess it's to hell with the feel of the original first season, huh?

NOW it all makes sense.....
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>>83187170
people waited 25 years for this. it feels like lynch and it brings back some twin peaks memories. so why wouldnt they praise it.
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>>83186919
>I would rather rate something because it's known than try to understand why it's rated that way

typical fucking nigger cattle opinion
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>>83186220
Laura had a dead arm before being killed by Bob, it doesn't imply possession by Mike. It's unclear for now why he had the ring (which protects against possession) but that doesn't in any way mean he's a creation of Mike.

Mike was clearly expecting Bob-Cooper to show up in the Red Room. He even told Good Cooper that he got duped and showed him the gold ball.
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>>83187329
I'm not a sucker for overrating a show because of nostalgia, so you got me there.
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>>83187170
Fair enough anon. I know what you mean. I'm afraid though that in this day and age this type of circle jerking without any substance is pretty common unfortunately. People want to belong so they do these pseudo nerdy amalgams. It can be annoying ofc, but it's mostly harmless imo.
Keep weeding out man, once in a while I'm sure you'll find some anon with pertinent reasoning to share for a change
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I wish I took a screenshot of the post I saw the other day.

Guy said that Twin Peaks was shit and that it explained everything to you, leaving you with nothing to figure out yourself.

Meanwhile this guy says that it has no explanation.

Really makes me think
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>>83187544
You hit it right on the head.

> you'll find some anon with pertinent reasoning to share for a change

And I just did.
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>>83182153
i honestly feel like lynch is using ideas he kept after his mulholland drive series didn't go ahead and became a film. twin peaks season 3 so far has been what i would imagine that mulholland drive series to be.

which is great if you loved mulholland drive but i wonder how the twin peaks 'fandom' is dealing with it
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>>83187609
I've really been talking about the new season 95% of the time. Thing explains shit.
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>>83185436
>film school
Kek
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>>83182178
And people pretend to hate lynch in order to appear smarter whats your point? There is no such thing as genuine admiration and sincere appreciation everything is an empty power game if you want to go down that road.
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>>83187300
>I thought it was a spectrum of genres all panned out in an idiosyncratic format.

Granted the first 3 episodes have been pretty hardcore on the surrealism side. Pleb filter as some anon wrote. However maybe your opinion would benefit from judging the whole 18 hours series after finishing watching it? Usually it is not a good idea to judge anything made by Lynch until I've seen it in it's entirety.
Consider judging Lost highway after 25 mn of film. You can I mean, but quite fucking honestly you really shouldn't.
The idiosyncratic format is still there anon, already by ep 4 it's coming back with a vengeance but you're too busy being angry to notice apparently.
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>>83186821
Try to watch this. You will maybe "understand" what Lynch is about. He is an acquired taste... like smelly cheese. At first you don`t like it, but trough exposure you will get hooked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxKPBLjHAEA
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>>83182153
Honestly 9.5 is way too low.
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>>83187831
My point isn't that the show is shit, my point is that it's getting so overhyped and overrated for what they've barely given us so far. I don't understand why on so many sites people are having seizures over how """amazing""" a comeback this is when it's barely started and, like you said, the first three episodes were HEAVY surrealism.
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>>83182153
white people gonna white
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>>83182354
>It's actually very straightforward
Then kindly explain the plot so far from the first 4 episodes, in your own words.
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>>83187735

Depends what you mean by fans. If you mean the people who picked up the show because of coffee and donut memes, no. If you mean people who watched Fire Walk with Me (at the least), then they've been prepared for weirdness from the start. The only people who don't like the current series are literal plebs.
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>>83187957
it's the circle jerking over-hyping phenomenon this other anon was pointing at >>83187544.
Ignore the morons, weed out the trash and don't let stupids affect your sensibility. one needs some mental armor nowadays dealing with such phenomenons it's true. Be like James anon!
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>>83187831
>watch 4 hours of show
>wow it's shit
>"no no no you should watch all 18 hours because maybe its not all shit"
>"that's how we 'Lynchers' like to do it"
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>>83187260
YET
ANOTHER
NORMALFAG
BTFO
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>>83188208
I'll try, anon! I admit, I have been prone to their whims and baits, but ... I SHALL HANG TIGHT. You gotta admit, the know-it-all shills are fun to make salty, though.
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Because:
James is still cool! He's always been cool!
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>>83187609
>>83087132
>>83087132 ?
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>>83188320
My sides are in orbit...
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>>83188023
25 years after Cooper is stuck in the lodge, it's opening back up and is going to suck not-Coop back in and let Coop out. Not-Coop planned for this and created Dougie to switch with Coop instead. So now Coop and not-Coop are out at the same time and the Mike is wanting to get not-Coop back in. Some part of the getting out of the Lodge fucked Coop's brains though so he's not himself. Meanwhile not-Coop is working with some people to get some unspecified information to whatever end. The people he was working with betrayed him though, but one ended up in prison and not-Coop was going to get the info from him. It's unclear whether he intended to get arrested though. In New York someone set up a box to try and tap into the Black Lodge. One thing I'm unclear on is what side Jeffries is actually working for since he seems to be playing both sides.
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>>83187170
Are you really so autistic that other people not being able to articulate why they like something triggers you?
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>>83182153
>THE END OF THE SECOND SEASON.

The end of the second season is superb, Lynch redeeming the show after it had lost its way in his absense.

>they

This is why you're confused. This is not television produced to a formula by an amorphous collective "they" like the guys who work for the water company. This is an authored piece of work with a complete meaning and a shape.
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>>83187300
>Guess it's to hell with the feel of the original first season, huh?

That's right. It's like you have no sense of the dignity of an artist. Lynch isn't Harrison Ford, giving you nostalgic handjobs until you or he keels over.
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>>83189965
Exactly. It's Art. For smart and discerning people who appreciate art and the finer things in life.
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>>83190160
Okay, then. Allow me some enlightenment as to the "meaning" and "shape" of the new season so far?
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>>83182153
HelllooOOOOOooooOOOOOooOooh plebfilter.
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>>83190230
It's wasted on plebs, you wouldn't even understand
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>>83190422
Uh huh. SURE it is. If you don't wanna explain, gtfo my thread.
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>>83190230
Holy fuck normies get so mad when something isn`t easily digestible. Should they cut in bits of Morgan Freeman explaining the plot for you?
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>>83190485
I'm still waiting on someone to actually back up your kind of claim with some explanation of the "indigestible" bits. Until then. gtfo my thread and go overhype your show.
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>>83182153

Because it's interesting and filled with intetesting characters.

I'm not one of those who think Lynch is some god of the cinematic arts, but he certainly is never boring, and he never panders to some current social politics, he just tells the story he wants to tell.

Compare that to some of the shit that is currently running and recieving just as good and even better praise, like American Gods (prententious shit with boring one-dimensional characters), Better Call Saul etc.

Twin Peaks the Return is like a fresh breath of air, no fucking diversity based casting where someone is a specific ethnicity in accordance with a checkbox, no forced subplot/imagery which mirrors some racial/social controversy in real life etc.

Thank you BASED Lynch!
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An honest review by a DIE HARD Twin Peaks fan.
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>>83190606
>gtfo my thread and go overhype your show
no

and now I`m going to sage it
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>>83190831

Another one.

>"If you are growing a beard, like bad music, wearing skinny jeans and pretending you watched the original one, even though you weren't even born back then, have horrible style and no substance, then yeah, you're gonna like the new one."

CAN LYNCHFAGLETS EVER RECOVER?
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>>83190908
>A story-line that feels like you are watching something between CSI, Dexter and desperate sex and the city. not twin peaks. not by a long shot

actually how i feel, jesus christ

first four hours of season 1 and i really did enjoy it

first four hours of season 2 and i loved it

the whole of FWWM felt great and was premium lynch horror

and now we have season 3, four hours of which felt so fucking badly directed/thought out. feel so low budget too.
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>>83191016
You just don't understand Lynch, he creates very challenging material. Perhaps watch some Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones instead.
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>>83191191
i love lynch

i love blue velvet, i love lost highway, i love mulholland drive, i love everything about twin peaks apart from the rocky middle of season 2

season 3 of twin peaks feels so fucking weird and different and not the good kind. the weird surreal stuff before coop comes to the real world during his non existence etc is fantastic. but so much is TRASH in season 3, gordan cole stuff is decent and a lot of the stuff in twin peaks is good, but so much is awful in this seaosn.
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>>83191288
>read wikipedia article about lynch
>come to /tv/ and pretend you know what you are talking about
It`s so obvious it hurts
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>>83191383
copy that, 10-4
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>>83191288

I was a bit on the fence after watching the two first episodes, but with the last two I'm back in the trap, particularly since it's clear that we'll see more of actual Twin Peaks from now on.

Also, consider that it is 18 episodes, we've seen 4 sofar, and the last episode is a two-hour finale, so there's 15 hours left of this series, the majority of which will most likely take place in Twin Peaks.
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>>83191500
thats what im hoping

next episode will probably have Laura Derne as Diane and im hoping cooper stops being retarded

the only bit i enjoyed of spaced out cooper was hellooooo and when he drank the coffee, just want him to be back to cooper we all know and meet up with cole
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>>83191016
>the whole of FWWM felt great and was premium lynch horror
But season 3 so far is literally more of the same FWWM lynch horror wtf?
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>>83190831
>too large dose

Right, so this guy is a pleb.

I watch Twin Peaks as a Lynch fan, not as a TV viewer - I only usually use my TV to watch movies - and I'm pleased as punch with the new season.
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>>83191880
lol season 3 is not the same as FWWM
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>>83192330
>lol no
So you haven't actually watched it and you're one of those donuts and coffee bandwagoning hipsters? Alright.
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>>83182153
>episode 4 of 18
>why don't I understand everything right away?
take a wild guess
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>>83192466
the difference is FWWM is very well put to together even with its weird first 20 minutes

season 3 is all over the place, it has albert/cole doing FBI stuff which is cool, cooper is being retarded and its dragging on.

first 20 minutes of FWWM is far more weird and entertaining at the same time than the whole of season 3, then the rest of FWWM is extremely dark and extreme. season 3 is barely any of that, just weird as fuck surreal scenes with cooper in the black lodge and non-existence and a shit ton of side plots with barely any substance or quality

FWWM is far superior to season 3 so far

people seem to be rabid fanboys who think that lynch cant make a bad decision when he can do plenty while at the same time do some fantastic material
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>>83192555
>i-it gets good 9 hours in
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>>83192597
>just weird as fuck surreal scenes
By the words you use it becomes clear Lynch isn`t for you, just give up. This isn`t a show for <100 IQ... it`s not your fault. There a plently of shows being producet that should suit you. now.
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>>83192597
>season 3 is all over the place,
>only four episodes are out
>most of them are centered around Coop trying to get out

>just weird as fuck surreal scenes with cooper
How can you pretend to be a TP fan and be so unavare of it's lore at the same time is beyond me. Nothing is weird about what's happening to Coop, everything is consistent.

>people seem to be rabid fanboys who think that lynch cant make a bad decision
I don't think Lynch is infallible, I just think you're a bandwaggoning hipster who read a short plot on a wiki article and know jack shit what you're talking about.
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>>83182153
no1 curr

David Lynch don't fuckign care about youre opnion.
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>>83192951
>>83192939


lol i have watched twin peaks fully, even the awful sections of season 2

i get the concept of the black lodge etc, im just using weird and surreal to quickly describe the scenes we have seen so far

i think the scenes with the black lodge and non existence in season 3 are some of the best stuff because thats what lynch does so right, the surreal stuff with abstract themes and concepts. lynch can make an atmosphere but this new season feels so weak so far because of everything else. the dougie stuff dragged on so much it hurt. i really cant wait for cooper to get back to twin peaks and focus on the black lodge and everything surrounding it and interacting with the characters of the town and seeing where things have changed for good or bad, its the only stuff ive liked so far. I know its coming but christ is it slow.

people loved twin peaks for its characters and their stories and the feel of the town with the brimming undercurrent of tragedy and evil, four hours in and i dont give a shit about any of the new characters and im waiting for a cooper to be cooper again, or at least be able to fucking speak.
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>>83182153
Fuck off OP, you simply don't get it, thats all there is to it. There's a reason the pleb/patrician meme became so popular, it's the best and quickest way to convey the idea that certain films are incomprehensible to certain people because their taste is garbage, your taste is garbage.

>>83182178
Nice projection retard
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>>83182153
Why do plebs like OP always get so angry when directors enable them their imagination by making their work ambiguous? The only logical explanation I can think of is these people hate themselves and would prefer to consume everyone else's ideas than explore their own.
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>>83193239
>people loved twin peaks for its characters and their stories
I SAW LOG WOMAN AND I CLAPPED

DO-NUTS DO-NUTS

You are literally LYNCHED my friend. Final (You) for you, shitty pseud.
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>>83193239
>four hours in and i dont give a shit about any of the new characters and im waiting for a cooper to be cooper again, or at least be able to fucking speak.

Lynch got you by the balls anon. And don't pretend you aren't curious about seeing wally brando or the scoobydoo guy again at the fucking least. you sound like a children who doesn't care about what's on the menu and wants to jump straight to the dessert. Lynch knows better, he will give you sweets rest assured.

And it is sort of slowin a way, but is it S3 that is slow or is it all the fast paced garbage that you've been fed with by tv networks for years that has shaped your taste anon? food for thought.
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>>83193478
if they didnt love it for the characters and stories of the town then what did they love it for?

if they didnt love it for the quirky weirdness then season 3 is a failure entirely, large chunks of scenes have quirky weirdness and not only does it fail, it fails harder because its not what people loved about twin peaks???

so they must have loved it for the black lodge and other weird pieces, despite the fact they only feature in short intense groupings throughout season 1 and 2?

oh but do they love the murder plot that was never the main content of the show? which many people say was the plebs section that people watched to find out?

which is it then?

>>83193636
the scooby doo side plot had potential and seems like bob is in him / someone else like bob, but knowing lynch its going to throw a curve ball.

wally brando made me cringe super hard desu

I have nothing against slow television, considering ive re-watched mad men and sopranos 2-3 times out of pure enjoyment for them, slow TV isnt an issue for me.
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>>83193704

>dat pacing
go back to plebbit
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>>83182153
people who say there's no plot and it's difficult to understand are retards.

i just think it's all very boring. 4 episodes have passed and basically nothing happened. the charm that twin peaks had was the strangeness yes but also the relationships beatween the characters.

it had
>sexual tension between coop and audrey
>wacky stuff happening between james-dana
>all that shit between shelly bobby and that guy who was married to shelly
>all the secondary characters were funny and lighthearted

it was comfy

this season is dark and depressing and not in a good way
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>>83193993
nice
counter
argument
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>>83192632
That's not what I said at all
However a mistery show that reveals everything less than 1/4 in is worthless
I don't understand if people are trolling or if they are seriously pushing the argument that a story that doesen't explain everything right away is inherently bad
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>>83194036
go

back

to

reddit
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@83193704
Lynch is a genius and constructaed season 3 in such a way to harvest maximum garmonbozia off backwards, nostalgia googled, change fearing, trope loving fucks such as yourself.

>the murder plot that was never the main content of the show? which many people say was the plebs section that people watched to find out?
No, plebs watched it for quirky lil town soap opera.
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>>83194071
there is a difference between explaining the story at the start and having nothing to latch onto

episode 4 had something, now they are investigating bob cooper. the scooby doo sub-plot has so little to grab onto, nobody gives a shit about the characters

4 hours into season 3 and the only characters to really care about are the ones from the previous seasons. its so spread-out and dis-jointed, im really glad he made them release four episodes at once, jesus christ if we had to wait 4 weeks for this lol hopefully it picks up now hes spent 4 hours fucking around with setting things up
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failing to mention what people did watch it for
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Holy fuck this thread is so full of brainlets and newfags it hurts

>>83194264
lurk more faggot if you don`t even know how to reply probably
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>>83194195
Season 3 is terrible so far. I'm not sure it can recover unless something actually happens in the plot.
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>>83194372
literally doing the same thing as the person responding to me did as stupid gesture, calm down
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>>83194195
I don't necessarily agree with you anon, however I respect the fact that for once someone can actually explain intelligibly why the show isn't satisfying without using reddit level slang.

And you are right by episode 4 we're starting to get into the familiar groove a bit more. We'll get there pretty soon imo.
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@83194264
but i did, plebs like you watched it for the soap opera with quirky characters

>moooom i want more of the same goofy village people stuff even tho half of those village people are dead irl
>why this new season contains new things i want more turtlenecks and cherry pie
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***83194401
no I won`t calm down we need camps to "concentrate" all newfags and teach them how to LURK and REPLY and SAGE

NO MORE IRONIC SHITPOSTING!

AM I THE ONLY SANE PERSON HERE?
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>>83184236
Wrong. Holds up perfectly! Is endlessly charming and the mystery is very well paced. Kill your own self HEHLLLOOOOO
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>>83194501
so what? the murder of laura palmer was the reason to watch the show? despite its always sited to be just a vessel to explore the town and characters (which it was)? and was solved mid way through because thats all plebs talked about and the studio execs were scared to bore people because lynch never wanted to solve it?

what about season 3 being described as a personal story of cooper returning to twin peaks?

>wow why would they go back to twin peaks in twin peaks season 3?

i dont want more meme cherry pie and coffee with goofy gimmick trash, which spoiler, the show is trying to do, badly.

i was more fire walk with me desu and season 3 isnt it.
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Sure is samefag in here.
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@83194639
>after 20 something years i want the same characters and same tropes again
i mean i would sorta agree with you if you said that new show lacked any interesting new characters, which is still too early to tell

but demanding a luke and leia from the get go is childish as fuck
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>>83194933
i dont want the same characters and the same tropes again

because thats what we have got so far, andy and lucy are the same characters they were 25 years ago and its trash. Hawk is just meh because he wasnt that big of a character anyways. shelly seems alright, james looks retarded

bobby seems interesting since he went from a drug dealing asshole who did have a glimmer of hope to police officer.

im all for new plots, new characters etc, i want that, but in twin peaks and more gripping shit outside, scooby has potential but too early to tell

all this cooper being warped stuff feels so crine worthy and an attempt to grab the so quirky crowd with hellooooo and other crap.
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>>83195059
>andy and lucy are the same characters they were 25 years ago and its trash
they suck balls and so does wally brando, all of their scenes are cringey rubbish
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>>83195156
this
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@83195059
>i watched and loved a show with quirky shit and loved it before but now since you made fun of it i'm suddenly allergic to it although it's a staple of the series
your hypocritic goal poast moving lead you to a dead end

you literally say yourself that it's too early to tell and fail to produce any actual well constructed criticisms

mcfucking kill yourself you waste of oxygen
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>>83182153

It's like your expecting answers in the first 4 hours of 18.
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>>83182250
We can handle criticism... You just didn't give us criticism
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>>83195286
i loved it in season 1 and 2

its now 25 years later

show me twin peaks 25 years later and the effect of the laura palmer case and everything around it has had on the town of twin peaks

its too early to know yeh, but what ive seen so far has been a mix of boring, fun and weird, cringeworthy and confusing how it made it in
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@83195438
>i don't want old shit, i want new shit that's actually old shit
>i want a "this what happened to billy", "this what happened to jill"
>this garbage is implied to be better than quirky or wierd stuff
literally lynched soap opera watching roastie

drink bleach you soccer mom
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>>83186153
You obviously haven't watched season 2 in a long long time 'cuz if you did you would know that not only is Windom Earle one of the greatest characters in the series, but also that the last 5 or so episodes of season 2 were some of the best in the series

Fuckin' Lynched
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>>83195438
It's working its way there, but it doesn't make sense that Cooper's doppleganger would have just been chilling in Twin Peaks for 25 years, so we're catching up with people as they are and then the core mystery is going to center back into Twin Peaks probably.
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>>83195286
>not giving (you)s

Rude.
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>>83195294
Shit, this thread is still alive? Alright, now look, my main issue was with people having seizures over how "AMAZING THIS SHOW'S RETURN HAS BEEN OMG SUCH A DEEP AND COMPLEX PLOT AND IT'S ONLY BEEN 4 EPISODES". Yeah, bull-SHEEAT, it's ONLY BEEN 4 episodes. These people have barely seen ANYTHING and they're giving it huge praise. I don't get the mentality.
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>>83196168

The way you reply is weird. Take your meds, calm down. Or rant this level of autism in any comic book thread. People just be hype over it returning, give it a few weeks to let things sink in and let the overly sensational hype die down. No need to REEEEEE.
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>>83196482
*huff*

Thanks. You da man.
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>>83195668
>Windom Earle one of the greatest characters in the series
ahahaha
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The plot of Twin Peaks is actually extremely straightforward for a Lynch work.

What is there not to get, there is some surrealism here and there but >60 IQ people like the OP expect to be spoon fed from the first 4 episodes on the plot, like this some kind of Breaking Bad kind of show, where you get the general outline on what its going to be on episode 1.

>inb4 deep fag

You can enjoy the show without any such pretensions of deeper meaning, but retards here actually expect to understand this series without watching season 1&2 and FWWM, if you do that, you have no one to blame but yourself.
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>>83182153
DARK FREAKIN SHADOWS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpr6IfYW5Lg

I tell you... I used to watch this as a kid in its original broadcast TV airing and listening to this opening theme sends me into a state such wonderment its amazing.
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>>83182153
Thanks for your hot take
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>>83183229
>Albeit, Cooper acting weird (pic related) was vague to me
he just escaped another dimension, man. he was falling through empty space for god knows how long
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