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Why is no one hyped for this?

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Why is no one hyped for this?
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>>83164571
Because The Force Awakens was stupid.
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>>83164591
fpbp
came here to say this
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>>83164571
TFA and Rogue One were dull as all hell. After three shit prequels and two bad sequels, I think it's time we all got over Star Wars.
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>>83164571
No one really likes the direction Disney is taking this tired franchise and whatever """hype""" people have for it is forced to save face.

Only the most die-hard numale faggots and retarded women are legitimately excited for it. No one else cares.
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>>83164646
>>83164632
>>83164624
>>83164591
fuck off pol, tv loves TFA
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It'll still gross over $2B
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>>83164591
>>83164624
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>Why is no one hyped for this?

Citation needed.
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>>83164571
I used to be obsessed with star wars but now I'm kinda fed up with it. Also, I don't like the direction it's taking.
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>>83164571
Because Star Wars is the most over hyped and overrated franchise in "Nerd Culture".
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>>83164673
/tv/ = /pol/

Lurk more newfag
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>>83164571
trailer was underwhelming. too similar to TFA's and the hype for TLJ was based around that it would be different.
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Literally 2 decent movies out of 8.
Stop watching star wars
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The new film looks so tired. The swashbuckling adventure of IV and V is long gone.
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>>83164761

Yeah, maybe if /pol/ had their way. But they don't.

Now fuck off back to /pol/.
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It hard to get hyped for Star Wars when we're getting one every 12 months.

It used to be a very special occasion because they rarely came out.
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>>83164703
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>>83164673
You don't have to be pol to think TFA sucks. It's just plain a bad movie.
>>83164761
Haha, no. Back to your containment board, poltard.
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>>83164591
>>83164591
>>83164591
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>>83164571
Because it looks like mediocre disneyshit.
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>>83164571
The only reason I really want to see it is to spoil it for friends and random people on the internet
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I'm literally more excited to watch good-quality critical reviews of TLJ than I am to watch TLJ itself, that's how likely I think it is that it's going to suck.
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>>83164813
This. It's only been two years and I already have Star Wars fatigue setting in. No way in hell i will see the Han Solo movie. I would see an Obi wan solo, but not Han Solo. Basically, I'm already done with the new movies. Hollywood is cancer.
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>>83164892
No thanks I was here first. You're more than welcome to leave.
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>>83164907
No one will even care. People cared about TFA spoilers, somewhat. The series is so out of touch that I wouldn't care if the whole script leaked. I'd rather read that than pay to see it at this point.
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>>83164571
let me fix that poster for you
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>>83164907
This.
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What I don't understand is why like 80% of people online like TFA and are excited about TLJ. I don't think it takes that much intelligence to see that TFA sucks. You just have to not be an imbecile. What explains TFA's appeal to all these people?
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And why the fuck does Daisy Ridley think that gaping like a fish = acting?
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>>83164571
I'm assblasted by TFA, but I'll still probably see this on opening night because I've been a fan since a child. But if it's as awful as the previous, I may not see 9.
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>disney will never make a star wars film that aspires to be more than a cash cow

a movie about thrawn or soontir fel or kreia would be the greatest scifi kinoflick ever
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>>83165085
A combination of mouthbreathing numale drones, geeky gurl women trying to look appealing, and paid shills/bots, and young kids are the ones regurgitating phony positivisty for this garbage
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>>83165085
You could say the exact same thing about Marvel or DC. Terrible movies that people cannot wait to see.
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>>83164907
Luke dies
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>>83165291
agreed. utter, mindless, video game cutscene bullshit
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>>83164571
Because Star Wars is for faggots.
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V > VI >VII >IV > I > III > II
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>>83164571

The Force Awakens wrecked the original beloved characters. Turning Luke, Han, and Leia into buffoons who helped raise the new Darth Vader.

Also the movie was a clone of Star Wars 1977.

It does not need to exist and killed the good ending of Return of the Jedi just for $$$.
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>>83165356
It's another over-arching sign of societal decline and collapse. Empires usually only last about 250 years. We're in our decline. In the decline stages you get rise in degeneracy (transgender, sjws), and a rise of "bread and circus", entertainment to keep the masses docile. That's what the influx of mindless hollywood movies is. Bread and Circus. Trump is our Caligula. We're riding a horse on it's last legs, it's written on the walls.
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>>83165448
>The Age of Pioneers
>The Age of Conquest
>The Age of Commerce
>The Age of Affluence
>The Age of Intellectualism
>The Age of Decadence

The 6 ages of an empire. We're fully in the sixth age of decadence.
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>>83165433
Luke - "the galaxy is in trouble, but I'm gonna go live on an island"
Han - "I'm a hero of the war that saved the galaxy, but somehow I owe people money again and have gone back to smuggling"
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>>83164571
I'm hyped for Reylo
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>>83165076
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>>83164571
Star Wars is nothing special anymore.
It's practically a Marvel capeshit with more feminism.
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>>83165433
This, so much this.
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>>83164591
fpbp. absolutely mediocre. all that hype for nothing
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>>83165433

>killed the good ending of Return of the Jedi

This shit hurts the most.
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>>83164809
But we do. Reddit took over /pol/, we came as refugees.
We will go back to /pol/ when Reddit leaves. That means you too.
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>>83164571
Because 7 was meh and Rogue One was a disaster.
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>>83165448
>dolan drumpf is evil!!!!!! we cant let him get the nukeler kill streak
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>>83164571
Because TFA and how Disney treated the IP has got me not wanting to see another SW again
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>>83164571
because we aren't children?
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>>83164571
because it isn't part of my head canon
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Neodisney Wars can fuck off hard. Everything about is so underwhelming and half assed and obvious.

Needless to say though, we'll get like two movies each year until we're all dead which hopefully is very soon :^)
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>>83164591
fuckin this
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I just want to see Laura Dern's parts.
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>>83164571
because the force awakens was a fucking abortion

disney and these 'writers' who prioritise marketing and politics over telling a cogent and interesting story can fuck off

how jew jew managed to blow the ONLY opportunity to have han, luke and leia all reunited is unforgivable

>>83167904
take me back to when dark forces and kotor were canon
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>>83165235

In other words, 80% of the world's entire population
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Fuck, Marry, Kill?
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>>83166867
I voted for Trump. You still can't actually say he isn't a sign of the end. Or at least the beginning of the end.
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>>83168113
Phasma actually looks memorable without her helmet. Usually I love characters having helmets and not enough movies let their characters wear helmets anymore. But she still looks cooler without it.
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>>83168113
Why did they pick such unattractive people for this movie?
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If Rey is killed and Finn turns out to be the one, maybe it'll be good. Virtually everything else will be predictable, overblown, manufactured drama garbage.

And that's not an anti-woman thing, it's an "unstoppable badass instantly good at everything already hyped up to be the savoir of the universe and probably also a Kenobi or Skywalker vs. legitimate nobody who could rise to power and struggle with himself along the way like the original" thing.

(Ok, maybe not killed, there's too much money to be made, but y'know, taken down.)
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>>83168113
fuck Phasma, cos she is a she. Marry Kylo cos I'm assuming he is the richest out of these three and kill the guy who's name I don't know and which I'm not even going to bother googling.
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If Finn isn't force-sensitive in this one, I'm done.
I liked him with a lightsaber and having Rey be the action lead is just bland, even though I like her too. What's wrong with two Jedi?
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after TFA and Battlefront I no longer can feel hype for upcoming star wars media
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>>83165231
this I'll only watch it because Luke is in again in proper form (alteast that's what is promised) but just as you I may not see 9 on the theater, maybe when it's on the internet at good quality but not before
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I am. The teaser pictures that came out recently look neat. And I'm eager to see what they'll do with Luke's character.
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>>83168113
>not posting the original version
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>>83168660
His name is Hux because he gives no fux.

Truth be told he was one of the most entertaining things about TFA. He hitlers around in front of stormtroopers and he has this weird playground rivalry with Kylo over who's the bigger dick.
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>>83169709
I
AM
ACK
TING!
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>>83169697
Why the hell does he still have the wonky lightsaber? I thought the only reason he had it is because he jury-rigged it out of spare parts, and it got destroyed at the end of the last movie. Why doesn't he make himself an proper one already?
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>redditors still dont understand that /tv/ = /pol/

This has literally been in the news before. Mods have admitted it.
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>more focus grouped pre-digested bland mush

no thanks
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>>83168113
>>83169697
>Phasma isn't attractive
Fuck this gay earth
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>>83169736
To be fair the script for that scene probably called for him to ham it up as much as physically possible.
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>>83169782
I mean we've known who the actress was since way before the first movie came out.
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>>83165085
Maybe TFA is actually good and you're just a cynical contrarian autist?
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>>83169800
I legit had no idea, I was hoping she'd be some evil Samus aran type
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The poster alone is already a turn off. You can tell they have nothing new to bring on the table, let's change the logo's colour! It reminds of C3PO's red-arm. There's absolutely no legitimate reason, just to make people talk about it and create buzz.
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>>83169744
It's completely retarded that the First Order can build a gigantic sun sucking battle station but can't build him a proper lightsaber. This is just a stupid gimmick from the early concepts and they kept it because they thought "it was cool", just like wearing a helmet for no reason
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>>83164571
Are you nuts? I'm hella hyped.

I just wish it was coming out this weekend.
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>>83164591
>>83164632
This. The last great star wars movie was made in 1980. I have no further interest in seeing more movies in the series
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>>83169893
>It's completely retarded that the First Order can build a gigantic sun sucking battle station period
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>>83168770
>If Finn isn't force-sensitive in this one, I'm done
give it up you retarded nigger, he's not and never will be.
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>>83164571
>"no one hyped for this"
>literally multiple +300 post threads about it every single day

you're all just acting like you don't care while you post your next autistic Star Wars essay post about all the little details and intricacies you gather from a fucking promo picture or whatever
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>>83170044
I care enough to post about how shit disney wars is but no enough to pay to watch it.
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>>83164571
I like rian johnson, but I will probably not love it partly because I didn't like tfa or rogue one
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>>83170085
I'm pretty sure you payed off your cinema ticket just by the sheer amount of posts and threads you made about it.
You're just doing the marketing for them for free, there is no "bad marketing.

Disney execs are laughing right now.
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>>83170044
dude what? i don't watch movies
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>>83168113
Damn, Phasma looks like THAT?
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Lots of people are. But it's just been turned in to nu-male cuck shit by (((Disney))), so essentially it's yearly release consumer garbage now like Marvel capeshit.
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>>83170134
>ou're just doing the marketing for them for free, there is no "bad marketing.

I beg to differ, why do you think they shut down imdb boards?
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>>83170329
It's not something I made up, there is no bad marketing, it's free attention which can be used in their advantage.
Justin Bieber became one of the most popular pop stars of our time just because of the sheer amount of hate towards him that spread like wildfire. for every hater he gained one fan too.

Your thread about how the new trailer/promo pic/script leak/whatever is looking really bad is just promoting Star Wars and more people know about the upcoming release and the exact date.
And it's not like the Plinkett anymore, for most of your hate posts there are just as autistic (You)'s defending it and all that is left is free marketing.
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two words: hype inflation
the more you hype in a given time frame, the less the hype hypes
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>>83170484
I heard this "no publicity is bad publicity" before. It doesn't mean that's true. Just one example : Ghostbusters or BvS. The studios learned their lesson and realize negtivity can build up and make people run away from their crappy movies. I have no doubt Disney forced imdb to shut their boards down, the proof is that they used bogus different reason to justify the shutdown. One time it was the troll, other time it was because it was underused. BS, it was because of the negativity.
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>>83168113
Fuck Phasma, Marry Phasma, Kill Myself
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>>83170044
Just because people are talking about it doesn't mean they're going to see it. The last movie I saw was Deadpool when it came out and it was terrible. I haven't watched a single movie/tv show since then (and I don't regret it)
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>>83170885
>Just because people are talking about it doesn't mean they're going to see it.

sure thing buddy
come back here when it's released and there will be nothing but fucking star wars threads for a month straight
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>>83170885
I hated Deadpool too, but slightly less than you because i grabbed the torrent. I still don't understand why it good such good reviews. I think it was disgusting movie
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>>83170918
a lot of the retarded kids that post here will spam threads about it but there will also be a large amount of people who wait for the torrent. just like rogue one.
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>>83170708
ENGLISH DOC
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>>83171024
fuck you, 4chan is an AMERICAN website!
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>>83164673
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>>83164632
>two bad sequels
You meant one bad sequel - and its not bad. RO IS a prequel.
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Kylo Ren has to be the most disappointing villain. His existence is what's wrong with the new reboot. That and its nothing more than normie cash grab shitty sci fi. Star wars died galaxies ago.
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>>83164571
Its in December, dood.
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>>83164571
Maybe because there's no trailer yet faggoite
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>>83165231
You're the cancer
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>>83171479
Kylo Ren is the only redeeming factor of the new trilogy, go look for your one dimensional cool badass 10/10 Chad evil villain #5477 elsewhere
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If you think this movie won't make at least 1.5 billion dollars, you're delusional.

It's still pretty far away. Once they release a story trailer, people will start losing their shit.
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>>83171492
but there was and it was garbage
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>>83164571
Because I already saw Empire Strikes Back
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Yeah, I am surprised too.
Even Rogue One had more hype.
And almost all posts are negative.
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>>83164571
Because Thor Ragnarok looks better and more fun.
Also Episode 7 was the most hyped movie since possibly the phantom menace. people might be "hyped out" for star wars.
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>>83164571
fool me once shame one you, fool me twice,,, we won't be fooled again
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Force Awakens would've been amazing if there were no real hard ties to the first three movies.

Just have Luke as an echo.
Rey trying to find the Jedi Temple, but Laan Empootah or whatever is there instead, a Jedi trained under Luke 50 years ago.
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>>83169697
Kylo's a pretty big guy
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>>83173176
for you
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>>83164571

TFA killed my interest in the franchise. No young and handsome main character like Luke Skywalker or Anakin Skywalker. Instead we get a mtf tranny manly-jaw mary sue. Both Luke and Anakin gained their skills through training not by taking a deep mary sue breath.
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>>83169777
I wish it had more of a cyberpunk flair to it, but I think you're right. Recent photographs from VF make the movie look like a dull Halloween party that you'd leave after thirty minutes. It's not exactly the AKIRA-style sequel trilogy I had pictured in my head back in the 90's. It's more of a Saturday morning cartoon show of SW.
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>>83164591
This. FA killed all of my hype for the future of this series
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>>83164632
I think Rogue One can be classified as one of those movies
>oh yeah, THAT happened
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>>83164677
It was the most anticipated movie in film history. Yes, it would have made 2billion. Let's see it make 2billion again.
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They made Star Wars bland, generic, and mediocre.
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>>83168113
How is Phasma not executed yet? She must have been questioned about what happened.
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>>83168427
>strong WOMYN is killed but black male takes her place
The left would implode
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2bh all star wars movies in the last couple of decades sucked. TFA and R1 are no exception.
The only thing decent in the franchise were the games and EA made sure to kill that too.
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>>83173237
>>83173339

This

This force is female shit will backfire, bigtime!
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>>83164907
>friends
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>Dude let's watch the third Meme Wars movie in three years bro, haha c'mon it'll be fun :^)

This is what reddi/tv/ermin actually believe
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>>83173441
But the prequels nor Rogue One wasn't the most anticipated Movie of all time. The Force Awakens only made money because of that. It'll probably make a billion dollars when its released again, but it won't make two billion or even close to two billion.
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>>83164591
This desu
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>>83164571
Normies are hyped for it. People here know better after seeing TFA.
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>>83173508
Shit! I committed a grave Grammatical offense, I used a double negative.
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Will he ever be stopped?
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>>83173593
Based George Lucas.
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>>83173593
Did George finally got his neck fixed? about time.
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I like the sound of a more Medieval look to SW, but they still have to prove that they can do things on a larger scale.
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>>83164571
Because we saw episode 7.
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In all honesty, I don't think I have ever been "hyped" for a film in my life. I really feel like I've missed out on something in life, and sometimes just wish I could be normal.
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>>83168221
Everyone knows her already as the big bitch from game of thrones
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>>83173701
there's nothing to be impressed about because It's all turned to shit, sadly.
It's a lot like putting a diamond nose ring on a pig in a pink tutu. Or putting an elegant gown on a rotted corpse. Just why would you?
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You can only do "A Star Wars Storyâ„¢" every so often before everyone gets bored from oversaturation and realises how bland and uninspiring the whole thing actually is,
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Why do they have stories now where everyone is just sort of "like the hero" or "like the villain"...with everything tied together with jokes?
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>>83169744
Well if he doesn't know how, he doesn't know how. Without anyone to teach him how to make a proper saber hell just keep making shitty ones like that over and over
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>>83173354
I liked Rogue One. The second half was great.
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>>83164571
Rogue One kind of killed my interest in Star Wars.
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>>83165407
V>IV>>VI>RO=III>I>VII>II
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>>83164673
>/tv/ is RLM
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>>83166530
You invited Reddit, now deal with them instead of being /pol/fugees all over the site
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>>83164673
No dude you fuck off.
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>>83171458
Probably talking about ROTJ
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One artless aspect about these Neo-Conservative morality plays is the nakedness with which policy is presented on the screen. Africa, Latin America, Arabia and China are good guys but Western Europeans, Slavic characters (Kylo Ren), and Japanese (Kanjiklub) are depicted as being very bad. There's even a direct reference aimed at North Korea.
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>>83173427
>muh Left
You need to go back >>>/pol/
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>>83174403
Rey, Leia, Solo are the good guys and they are white caucasians, what's your point?
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>>83174409
What's going on with Disney shills calling /pol/ everyone who dislikes your movies.
That won't certainly increase the hype for them.
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>>83174471
>white caucasians

lmao

Not him but that's only because their leftovers from a bygone era. Once they're all killed off the heroes will be multiracial and 50/50 men and women, there will probably be a gay/bi/whatever character (good guy of course), and all the bad guys will be solely white people.
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>>83174471
Well, the story is a little vague beyond those points... Is FN a good guy because he has resources? Can we trust everyone we can trade with? Those are interesting questions that might expand the screenplay and hopefully TLJ will manage to do that.

It's interesting however that Luke is not even the last Jedi, he's "like a Jedi" but probably closer to being the last Libertarian. It's thought-provoking stuff.
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A thread that is just about the hype of a movie that will come out in a six months already has +150 posts.

You're all delusional autists who pretend not to care about Star Wars while knowing every single ndetail about the most meaningless news that get's released for it.
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>>83164571
Star Wars movies stopped being a special thing much faster than I thought they would. Look at Star Wars vidya, nobody cares about it unless it's good. Movies are treated the same way now because they're the same kind of fanfiction spin off thing.
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>>83172865
Doesn't Thor have more trailer views than Jedi? I think Justice League will be a better movie too.
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>>83174600

And this is bad because?
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>>83174655
I'm still not paying anything for SW related things, so I guess Disney should be cashing in the (You)s.
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>>83174712
>I think Justice League will be a better movie too.
Lol
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>>83174712
>Doesn't Thor have more trailer views than Jedi
It does. How is that even possible?
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>>83174719
3/10. Tired meme retort. Work on it.
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>>83174764

its a good ass trailer
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I wasn't much hyped for TFA, but then I was pleasantly surprised. The characters were fun to watch (wish Rey had more to her & wish Poe had been in the whole movie) and although the movie was a retread of ANH, so was ROTJ so not a deal breaker for me.

I don't know what to think of TLJ. I honestly don't think it will be a retread of TESB. However, if it turns out to be shit, I might prefer a retread.
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>>83174721
You're actually doing free marketing for them, the purpose of all the trailers/teasers/promos is to start discussion.
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>>83174691
I'm curious if it's just people on the internet or if it's settling in for everyone. My father was so excited to go see TFA with me, seemed to feel obligated to see Rogue One, and with Last Jedi has flat-out said something to the effect of "there's ANOTHER one already?..." in a non-positive way.
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>>83164591
This, plus Star Wars is a yearly thing now. It isn't like TFA where people were shitting their pants over the RETURN OF STAR WARS.
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>>83174882
It's not even on the internet, only4chan is negative towards it.
The normie world (99% of people) absolutely love it and can't wait for it.

1 billion box office easy.
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>>83168113
Perhaps he's wondering why someone would throw a woman into a garbage chute, before blowing up her entire planet?
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>>83174866
Yes I'm sure us shitting on the movie will make more people see the movie. Because Star Wars needs awareness. People just don't know what Star Wars is, they need brand awareness even if it's from people who shit on the movie.
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>>83174991
>1 billion box office
That's very bad for numbered SW actually. And before you bring out the numbers, adjust for inflation
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>>83168113
I hope there show nazis more this time around. They're the only half decent thing in nuT, just didn't have enough screen time
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>>83174991
>1 billion

TLJ will make 1.5 bare minimum, even if it sucks. It might not break 2 unless it's somehow really good.
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>>83175016
>Yes I'm sure us shitting on the movie will make more people see the movie

Yes, that's exactly right. Justin Bieber wouldn't be the biggest pop star if it wasn't for the mass global hate that helped him become famous.
And for your every hate post there are other autists that will defend it to death, so all that is left is free marketing.

I could now make a thread with a TLJ poster and just say DUDE STARWARS LMAO and I'll get +100 posts easily.
And the movie isn't out in six months so it will only get even worse.
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It would be interesting if there was some screen time devoted to showing the proliferation of think tanks in the Resistance.
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>6 months away
>no new big news releases in the last few weeks
>why do we not have 20 threads about it
Gee I wonder
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>>83164571
why?
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>>83175367
We pretty much have atleast 3 active star wars threads going on at all times even now.
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>>83175462
Luke single handedly saved the Rebellion when he landed that one in a million shot that blew up the Death Star. What did Rey do?
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>>83175954
Nothing, yet she gained everyone's love and trust
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>>83175954
>What did Rey do?
Defeated the top of Luke's students without even a scratch despite having actual training.

Reminder that THIS STUDENT killed all the others, has been training since he was kid and not even luke could've stopped him.
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>>83174164
Literally this.

>>83174814
Said no one ever. Good job shill.

>>83174866
Nice reverse psychology, shill.
>>83174991
>>83175191
The last white man will make upwards of 1.25 billion worldwide, and not a penny more.

>>83175954
They were homing missiles, you absolute asshole. the only problem was the obstacle course before the chute. It was well armed and had struts that blocked its view. You couldn't fly in their vicariously because the port guns would shoot you to shit, so you had to move fast, really fast. So you literally had to take in a squadron to protect the guy who had the Homing Missiles. And then the Targeting computer would do the rest. They miscalculated and the Targeting computer couldn't account for all the variables, the struts, the speed, the anti weapon batteries that was constantly firing. Obi Wan begged Luke to use the force and in so doing Luke used Force Danger sense, or force Prescience to aide him in firing the homing missiles at the right time.

I hate you Rey defenders so much.
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>>83164673
Because if anyone has an opinion contrary to yours, they must be from /pol/

Fuck you
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>>83176564
Get a load of this autismo. Force Danger? Lmao fuck off already.
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>>83176564
this is autism kino
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>>83164571
Nobody on /tv/ is hyped for it. But normies are, i hope the normies think this sucks.
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WHY WOULD I EVER BE HYPED FOR A PRODUCT DESIGNED JUST FOR MAKING MONEY
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>>83164591
fpbp
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>>83175462
>first time she flys at all
Someone didn't watch the movie.
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All the people blaming SJWs, "degeneracy", and so on for why Disney Wars sucks are off the mark. These are just simply bad movies. They're badly made. Even if every single SJW-type element was removed from them, they would still suck.
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Because its fanfiction Star Wars ended in Return of the Jedi
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>>83174882
Same, I went to see TFA with my dad and we both left horribly let down.
Which sucks because a new hope is one of his favourite films
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>>83169709
>Guys, guys, I have this great idea!!
>What if, now hear me out
>The Empire is actually


>NAZIS!

I can't believe they somehow made the Nazi influence in the OT look subtle in comparison. Fuck the hack writers that shat out this ass stew of a film.
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>>83177301
You can tell TFA is a piece of shit since all the merchandise you see everywhere these days is all about the original trilogy and a bit from the prequels. You never see First Order action figures or Kylo or even Jyn Erso, nobody really likes the new Star Wars, people just look at it with nostalgia goggles and Disney knows this, it's all an excuse to keep selling old trilogy shit forever and ever.
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Name one memorable scene from tfa or rogue one
I'll wait
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>>83177407
Exactly. Only there's absolutely no prequel merchandise. It's all OT shit.
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>>83177408
the scene where the blow up the death star... oh wait
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I actually blame Gen Xers for Star Wars' current state. They're the ones who can't get over "how good" the OT is. They're the ones that need "muh Han Solo and Tie Fighterz" and need to "relive muh childhood with muh kidz"

They fucked Star Waes up badd.
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>>83164591
FPBP!
The Farce Engorges was one of- if not the- worst movie of all time, definitely the worst Star Wars movie. And everything I've seen of TLJ shows that they've clearly not learned from the mistakes of TFA and it's going to suck just as bad. Not gonna see it, gonna enjoy shitposting about it on /tv/ tho.
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>>83177286
The star wars name alone will guarantee most of them adoring it regardless of the quality of the movie.
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>>83177455
Yeah except for some clone trooper maybe
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>>83177378
The thing is, they were made from the beginning with the goal to appeal to a certain crowd, and that crowd isn't Star Wars fans or people that care about well-made films. If you "took out the SJW stuff," I would argue there wouldn't be enough there for a trailer, much less a bad movie. Like all things now, it has been made from the beginning to be irredeemable shit.
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>>83173367
It will.
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>>83177408
The lip bite scene where Poe gives Finn his jacket, thus proving he's gay for Finn
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>>83164673
If you unironically like TFA you don't belong on /tv/, you belong on a Facebook group with your other normalfag compatriots.
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>>83169802
Maybe you're wrong?
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>>83164673
Fuck off reddit. You faggots are worse than /pol/fags
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>>83164571
>no one

W
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>>83164571
>being hyped about a series of mediocre space operas that appear far too often on cinema screens and are directed exactly the same as any other blockbuster
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>>83166530
>we came as refugees.
I hate refugees as much as /pol/ does
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The mouse is very strong in this thread
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Disney Wars every 6 months
you are EXPECTED to be hype like a sad little consumer monkey you are

fuck that shit
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>>83169744
Because then it wouldn't be a giant laser crucifix and the New Order as Nazis would be the only heavy handed metaphor throughout the movie. And they would be lonely.
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>>83169757
They don't seem to understand that normies think theyre nazis either way.
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>>83177408
>name one memorable scene from RO
The death star blowing up space Aleppo

Vader meeting with Krennic on Mustafar

Asian guy using the Force to get to the detonators safely

Hammerhead killing 2 star destroyers

Death star arriving at final battle and nuking Scariff

Vaders ship showing up to btfo the rebel fleet

Vader killing the rebels in the hallway

Honestly, the last ~40 minutes of RO were kino.
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Because the last one was trash and this one looks to be even worse feminist garbage. Everybody is tired of the liberal agenda.
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>>83164571
It sounds as exciting as avengers movie.
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>>83164571
ask me that 3 years ago and my answer would probably be different but now I'm just burned out with all these action-adventure movies.
I couldn't even stay awake during TFA, Rogue One and even though it's apparently really good, Logan.
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>>83174600
Sounds a making of KINO to me senpai
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>>83171577
How? Enjoying something because it has been a television staple for his whole life and doesn't quite want to give it up isn't cancer. You're cancer for being a mouth breathing non-opinion forming faggot
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>>83177654
>dude I noticed the movie had an X-wing and a death star in it I'm SO SMART they're the EXACT same movie!!!

fuck off
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>>83178191
>Hammerhead killing 2 star destroyers

I still think this is retarded. That is not what the did in KotOR. I guess it could make sense if the rebels modified them, but knowing disney, they'll just say that all hammerheads can do that.
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>>83178650
>dude I literally did not read anything from that pic and am desparetly trying to preserve my narrative that TFA isn't derivative even though it's a fucking well accepted fact by even its fans AND director
KYS
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>>83178979
>basic plot structure is similar
>dude they're the exact same movie lmao

and let's just ignore that the image you posted gets quite a number of things blatantly wrong

maybe YOU should kys
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>"Why is no one hyped about this?"
>+230 posts discussing that subject alone of a movie that will come out in half a year

REALLY makes me think
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>>83179035
How about this JJ, tell me THREE, just THREE new concepts TFA introduced to the star wars universe. And I don't mean a new planet that looks exactly like tatooine or a ship that looks slightly different. NEW concepts. Should be easy to find just three new things in a 2 hour movie, right?
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>manchildren wars
REDDIT YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
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I'm still irritated at Disney over muh Expanded Universe.
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>>83179665
A conflicted fleshed out villain that isn't a one dimensional 11/10 Chad evil badass villain #5477
A stormtrooper going rogue.
A girl with high Force capabilities.
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>>83179856
>conflicted fleshed out villain that isn't a one dimensional 11/10 Chad evil badass villain #5477
Darth Vader, you retard.
>stormtrooper going rogue
General Crix Madine, Kallus, dozens of others in the novels/comics.
>Girl with high Force capabilities
Mara Jade, Darth Maladi, Adi Gallia, Aayla Secura, Shaak Ti, Luminara Unduli, Yaddle, Depa Billaba, Ahsoka Tano
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>>83180245
protip: no one cares about the novels/comics but "autistic fucks" like you

You think anyone in the cast/crew can name a single character you mentioned in your post besides Darth Vader?
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>>83180430
>Zero cast/crew members watched The Clone Wars cartoon or Episode II
You're probably right desu.
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>>83177169
It was called, Force Danger Sense, you absolute asshole. They upgraded the term to Prescience.

>>83177253
So in lieu of actual rebuttals we get

>Because you're autistic your relevant points are hereby rescinded.

Nice rebuttal, asshole.
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>>83178652
The rogue one hammerhead isn't the Kotor hammerhead
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>>83180430
No one gives about Stroink wymen. Rey won't sell a toy. Women won't support her and in time, young men and boys will move on from the series. Shit's about to get real, son.
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>>83181261
Women will support her in solidarity, but they'll lose interest quickly.
Star Wars isn't really a thing that girls like and they'll lose the interest of males soon.
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>>83164571
Cause /tv/ is contrarian as fuck and cannot enjoy a simple space fantasy adventure cause it panders to women now
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>>83181400
Highly doubt it, han solo standalone film, rumored obi wan standalone and the rest of the male main cast in the big episodes are more than enough for 99% of the general public.
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>>83181400
Girls don't give a shit about star wars. At every convention there's literally a difference of ten to one. You're welcomed to lie though.
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>>83181674
Women will support her, not go to neckbeard conventions ya dummy.
By that I mean the same women that painted the Ghostbusters remake as a strong woman movement obviously say the same about Rey and women that feel indifferent about SW will just go along and agree.
Also read the second half of the post
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>>83169920
back in the day you had to wait 3 years. be happy it's only 2.
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>>83177408
TFA
>The opening scene where Finn has a PTSD attack
>Rey's Introduction
>Han confirming the force is real
>Kylo mind raping Rey, then Rey mind rapes him
>Kylo killing Han
>The forest Duel
>Luke reveal

RO:
>When they first fire the death star
>The entire third act
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>>83169554
>alteast that's what is promised
That hasn't been promised at all. In fact Mark Hamill makes it sound like he doesn't do shit.
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>>83181907
Really, women are going to support Mary Sue Rey?
I read the second half. They were never there. They're not there. And if the guys gave up, The women wouldn't give a shit. It would bomb. Most of the young guys are there with their mothers. You see mothers buys the toys for their sons. their daughters want something else. Make it about women. Mothers, the majority of the females who entertain shit wars. Will stop. It will bomb.
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>>83173237
>No young and handsome main character like Luke Skywalker or Anakin Skywalker. Instead we get a mtf tranny manly-jaw mary sue.

Ugghhh, stop being so insensitive you cis shitlord!!! Don't you know what year it is?

I really hope that Rey's backstory involves her being part of Snokes crew or something dark side related and somehow got her mind wiped
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>>83182079
You're retarded.
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>>83165085
>What explains TFA's appeal to all these people?
Because, despite TFA being bad/medicore, the prequels are infinitely worse. The were so bad and damaged the brand, that Disney figured a soft ANH reboot would the only way to get people back on board the star wars saga

All anybody wanted was another star wars film without Lucas-tier directing. JJ is a hack, but he still way a more competent film maker than Lucas. How do you turbo autists not realize this?

>inb4 prequels are a kino and George is a misunderstood genius
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>>83182681
The prequels were not at all, infinitely worse. Despite being poorly done. They were logical. There's nothing at all logical about the shit awakens. Rey can fly a custom made freighter, Ren destroys and kills everyone and captures a visitor to mind read him. Why didn't he read the man who had the map, or read the people who lived with the man who had the map, or search the village or search the visitor's ship you just blew up---none of that. He arrives, kills everyone, burns down everything, looks for the visitor to mind read him. Finn saves Poe, Poe and Finn argue about the map and of how it's more important than everyone and without it, the Resistance will fail. Ship crashes Poe disappears. Finn finds Rey. Rey flies the Falcon even though she had never flown it before. Rey flies the falcon in a dog fight two minutes after driving it for the first time. The falcon has custom made controls. Luke look at the controls and didn't know what he was looking at. Rey and Finn makes in into out of space. Han is conveniently there and he's a smuggler again. Han takes a liking to Rey. Han takes the robot with him, the robot the Empire rip off is looking for. "Oh, there's the droid that we're all apparently looking for." Shit ensues. Monster eats everyone it grabs. It has finn, doesn't eat it. Bobs him around for a bit, Rey saves finn. Go to Rip off Yoda an orange thing that has to be older than Yoda and wiser than Yoda because its a female. HAN, the jackass yells. Wiser than Yoda my ass. Takes a liking to Rey. Rey is called by Anakin's saber that mysteriously is in a box behind a door that's not locked in a bar filled with cut throats and thieves. Disney magic happens and the saber that was supposed to have been destroyed falling into a gas giant is not only there but tells Rey a story. Finn looks up and sees the ten times bigger and dumber and more expensive death Star Destroy an entire solar system from light years away.
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>>83182681
More shit ensues. Rey mary sues, mind reads, reverse mind interrogates, uses force suggestion, shoots blaster for the first time shoots eight guys. bullshit, more bullshit. Resistance trust Rey, sends her to aide in death star destruction, more bullshit. Rey mary sues some more, blah blah blah. Resistance trust Rey to find Luke. A mission that is vital to the Resistance they trust to someone they just met. This movie is shit, and you're shit for defending. it.

I forgot. Finn and Poe meets again. "Hey my good friend." "What's up my best pal."

fuck this movie.
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>>83183174
>"Watch out for that vicious bounty hunter Boba Fett, Luke. Did I ever tell you I fought his dad? He was hired to assassinate a senator me and your father were guarding. We kept bringing her around open windows and public areas in order to draw the would-be assassin out because we knew he had too much pride to just shoot her from long range. He had used his payment to hire another bounty hunter to kill the senator for him while he sent us on a wild bantha chase. Also the 2nd assassin used her payment to buy a robot to assassinate the senator for her. Did I mention the 2nd assassin was a shapeshifter? She could have been a good friend in disguise and just shot the senator for all we knew! Then the robot used its payment to buy poisonous bugs to release into the senator's room while she slept after lasering a hole through the window. It could have just lasered her too after that because we we weren't watching her at all, but it already bought the bugs. So we sense the hostile life forms (not the robot) in the room and rush in and save the senator in the nick of time! Then I jumped out the window to chase the robot back to its owner! Luckily it didn't have a self-destruct function. Then we found the 2nd assassin and chased her across the planet, and caught her when she tried to kill us instead of shapeshifting and escaping. But to our surprise, Jango Fett was watching the whole thing instead of going to kill the senator while we were away chasing the bugs chasing the robot chasing the shapeshifter. He shot her with a poisonous dart instead of sniper blaster, and only her instead of shooting all of us or blowing all of us with a rocket or something, then he escaped with his tiny jetpack. Luckily for the senator, my good friend Dexterr Jettster owned a 50s dinner on Courscant that had Republic secrets on the menu along with cheeseburgers and malt shakes. We found the assassin and Mace Window killed him later, right in front of Boba. And he was a good friend."
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>>83173760
It's not worth it. Usually when you're hype about something, it ends up being a disappointment, or you have to pretend like it met your overblown expectations/fantasies to spare your poor psyche.
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>>83173941
It worked for Marvel. Seeing how dumb the general audience is, I wouldn't be surprised if they got another 9-12 movies ahead of them until the crowd dwindles down enough for them to stop..
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>>83182079
Not him but none of those scenes were memorable to me. I think the only one that stood out were the scenes mindrape scene and maybe Kylo killing Han. The rest don't have any tension to it and nothing much dramatic happens, so they're pretty forgettable.

Personally I didn't find anything that made me emotionally invested in this movie. I am, however, curious about what direction Kylo's character will take. Probably the only reason I'm going to bother with TLJ.
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>>83173955
Purely good/evil characters offer little to work with for unimaginative writers
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>>83165232
Nah, you want KotOR as a semi-edgy 10 episode, 5 season streaming kino. A trilogy would be a mess, but there's too much to stuff into one film.
Knowing Disney, they'd make it into a cartoon show like TCW or Rebels.
The first one would center around Mission Vao, who would turn out to be Revan's moral center or some gay shit like that.
The second one would center around OC kid character trying to get the Exile to become a Jedi again with Kreia as an antagonistic cunt. There'd be good stuff, sure, but you'd have to play the games to get a better version of the story anyways.
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>>83165407
>>83174164
IV=V>RO=VI>I>TFA=II>III
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>>83164673
Dank post my man
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Just an observation but:

It's funny that a mary sue is being branded as feminist, because a mary sue isn't about how women are strong. A mary sue is about how one character, in particular, is a super special snowflake.

Are there any other female characters in TFA (sans Leia) that are as a capable as Rey? No. I mean, we have yet to see how the whole thing with Rose goes, but so far the message isn't "women are strong too". The message is clearly "Rey is super strong and special", which is basically reducing her to be an ideal no ordinary women can relate to. She's a power fantasy, okay, but that isn't necessarily feminist. It's just that, a fantasy. She doesn't have anything that could be relatable to women, or doesn't feel like a human. Isn't that the main complain of feminists? That idealized women put unreasonable standards that no one could live up to? Why when it has the word "feminist" slapped onto it is suddenly ok to put a heavily idealized woman as the protagonist? I mean, shit, other Disney movies make way better female protagonists that are reasonably flawed, and it's those flaws that make them feel like humans. Rey just feels like a perfect mary sue machine.

TL;DR Feminists are hypocrites. This is clearly a power fantasy and nothing else.
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>>83183412
Keep trying Shit Awakens apologist, in time you'll believe your own shit.

>>83184268
>>83184268
Feminist doesn't want equality. They're like the fags, they shout for equality but what they really want is for you to treat them better than you.
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>>83164571
Entire thing has already been spoiled and it's fucking retarded
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>>83184268

Feminists idolize themselves too, it is human nature, Rey is what they want to be whether they say it or not
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>>83184268
>Feminists are hypocrites
Which is what makes them so Goddamned frustrating. The fact that anybody takes modern first world feminism seriously is sad in itself.
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>>83164673

>tv loves TFA
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>>83164571
Fuck Star Wars and fuck you too.
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Remember what you felt when you watched the trailer.
Now, remember what you felt when you watched TFA.
Let down.
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>>83182681
The prequels were slightly worse than TFA from the standpoint of filmmaking, but they were much more entertaining than TFA because they were so bad that they entered the MST3K-worthy zone and became fun to watch precisely because they were bad. Disney Wars is almost as badly made as the prequels, but without the campy "holy shit this is bad" fun. Disney Wars is also more soulless and uninspired than the prequels. Don't get me wrong - the prequels were bad bad bad movies. But they actually had a tiny fleck of life somewhere inside the crap, a bit of fire. Disney Wars is just cardboard.

>All anybody wanted was another star wars film without Lucas-tier directing.
No, many people wanted a star wars film that would actually be good. JJ's film was not good.

>JJ is a hack, but he still way a more competent film maker than Lucas.
He is competent in a disgustingly boring, vapid, and uninspired way. He epitomizes modern Hollywood. Lucas is at least a bad director in a funny, campy way.
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>>83184523
Which is why I say it's funny.

> Feminists: we are tired that women in media are idealized and don't act at all like real women, we want women that feel like real human beings
> TFA: Rey is a perfect lightsaber user and pilot, is a genius at everything, can do everything perfectly and is basically flawless, there is literally nothing she can't do
> Feminists: Perfect! A clear example of a strong female character built for equality

I mean, c'mon. Just come on.
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>>83184503
>Feminist doesn't want equality. They're like the fags, they shout for equality but what they really want is for you to treat them better than you.
Back to /pol/, retard. Or at least keep quiet when your betters are speaking. Disney Wars sucks, but it's not because of feminism.
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>>83170885
>hasn't seen any TV or film in over a year
>frequents a television and film board

kek
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>>83184877
Feminists want to be in charge, same with the gays. The only change they want is a flipping of the poles rather than actual change in the system. Equality is a false god and diversity is a lie. Back to /co/mblr with you.
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>>83184565
You know, the whole trying to defend Rey by comparing her to Luke and Anaking by saying they were perfect too is kinda ironic, because it's implying that the problem isn't that Luke or Anakin were "perfect" too, the problem is that they also wanted a perfect character to self-insert and didn't had one until now, as if they wanted to join the party as well.

The whole "if she was a male you'd be praising her instead" argument falls apart when you realize they are only arguing that they wanted their own flawless protagonist to self-insert into all this time. And now that they did no one can complain because they already have Luke and Anakin.

They were never arguing that they wanted a reasonable flawed protagonist, just a perfect one to self-insert because they felt left out. Good writing was never the goal here.
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>>83173441
>The only thing decent in the franchise were the games
You think the games are better than Empire Strikes Back?
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>>83179755
>galaxy gun
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>>83171479
Kylo is the one aspect of the new movies that has promise. His character builds off the previous movies while introducing interesting wrinkles to the themes. He's the one place TFA feels like an intelligent sequel.
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>>83185055
"Feminists" are millions of different people. So are "gays". The individuals who make up these groups don't all share the same desires and philosophies.
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>>83164591
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>>83185225
True. But staying in topic, this is true when feminists defend Rey. She isn't a character, she's just a power fantasy. A heavily idealized one. There is no feminism here.

And don't say she is because she's inhumanly capable and strong, other female Disney protagonist feel a million times more human than Rey without having to rub on your face how perfect and strong they are.
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>"why the heck is no one hyped about this!?!?!"
>nearly 300 posts discussing it

wew lad
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>>83164632
>lumping the prequals in with Disneywars shit
End yourself senpai, the prequels were deeply flawed, at times outright bad, but they had heart. 7 and R1 have no soul, and it shows.

>>83164571
>Why is no one hyped for this?
Because 7 and R1 were massive let downs. Lazy cash cows with as many "did you get that referance?" moments as possible.
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>>83185943
I think VII has heart in a few places; it's just lost in all the self-conscious pandering and lazy writing.

I wouldn't say the prequels have anymore "soul."
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>>83186180
All the relationships in TFA are empty and feel devoid of heart, though. It's all because it happens too fast.

> Anyone/Rey
Too fast. There's no impact because everyone likes her within 5 minutes of knowing her, for no reason. No build up whatsoever.

>Kylo/Han
They haven't seen each other in more than a decade and they weren't very close to begin with.

> Any of the rebels
Not enough screentime, barely any at all. Rose could change something but it's yet to be seen.

> First Order
Dead inside. All of them. Villains are not allowed to have friends.

The only thing that could have an impact is Leia/Kylo, because it was implied he was closer to her than to Han. And the thing with Kylo and Rey could go places. Probably the only interesting relationship is Finn and Poe, if they both come out of the closet.
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>>83186399
So are the relationships in the prequels. I felt more warmth and nuance in Han's final caressing of his son than anything in the prequel trilogy.
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>>83164571

Reylo.

Rey Kenobi.

FinnPoe.
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>>83186524
I'm not defending the prequels. I'm just pointing out TFA was empty when it came to character interactions. The only real friendship felt was the Finn/Poe thing, the rest are lacking.

I wasn't particularly moved with Han, specially because I saw it coming from a mile away.

> Hey son I came to say that I love you and want you back home after all these years of not being in touch with you
> Gee thanks dad, I'll go back, sure

It was obvious this wasn't going to happen.
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>>83164673
Sorry, but I unironically think The Phantom Menace was a more enjoyable movie than TFA. At least it had memorable set pieces like Duel of the Fates and the podrace.
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>>83186180
>I wouldn't say the prequels have anymore "soul."
Nah, Lucas was trying. I'm not going to bullshit and say he wasn't in it for the money or merch either but that was at least equal with the story he was telling.
For VII and R1 story, setting and character was placed far behind making money.
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>>83184815
> No, no, no, you see, being bad is good
> No, no, Lucas is good because he is bad

Kys, also
>Disney Wars is just cardboard
Thanks for the kek
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>>83186892
>Lucas was trying
Maybe. Either way, the prequels felt just as unnecessary as these new movies do.
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>>83186909
Not an argument.
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CTRL + F = Tree (0 resultus)

A
FUCKING
TREE
DISNEY?
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>>83186947
Oh no doubt, I can't argue with that. But I'd take them over this shlock anyday.
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>>83165407
>VII above IV and III
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>83164571
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me
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>>83165407
V > IV > III > VI > I > II > RO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TFA
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>>83187283
>including RO and TFA
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>>83187212
Putting it above III is pretty understandable, though neither are any good.
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>>83164571
Written and directed by a cuck.
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Because tfa and rogue one was trash. Selling the franchise to disney was a mistake.
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>>83187409
He looks like a child molester
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>>83186909
Where did I praise Lucas? I'm saying that the prequels are worse movies than TFA, but both the prequels and TFA are so bad that they enter that zone where the only way they can be entertaining is by being hilariously bad. And the prequels, unlike TFA, are hilariously bad. They are bad in a way that's entertaining.
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>>83187324
Fuck you got me.
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>>83164673
fuck outta here
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TFA has a story with clues and untold stories everywhere
It sucks because you lack the ability to read between the lines
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>>83189045
>TFA has a story with clues and untold stories everywhere
Well a movie missing out most of the plot and background information for effects and cheap nostalgia fanwank is going to have plenty of untold stories to follow up on.
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>>83164571
I'm hyped. I would like to see more first.
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>>83186524

You can say anything about Padme and Anakin but at least we see them doing things together, as well as Obi Wan and Anakin

I prefer a failed execution than no execution at all
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>>83164571

I'm actually tired of Star Wars now. We've had so many misses compared to big hits.

I've always felt the original trilogy was all that's needed. Say what you want about them they work pretty well together.

The Prequels were a clusterfuck.

The Force Awakens felt like a remix of A New Hope. Rogue One felt like pure nostalgia pandering.

Ironically the best thing since the original trilogy were the games. KOTOR and KOTOR 2 expanded far more on lore than the movies have even attempted. The movies feel like safe-bet pandering now.

I plain don't give a fuck now.
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>>83189200
As of the structure of the movie, it's completely logical that the First Order would copy everything the Empire did, so as a result it pans out similarly.

What exactly do you dislike?
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>>83164571
Because when we found out that our untainted, unvarnished CUTE Daisy had already been BLACKED in a Britbong movie prior to TFA, nobody cares for her or the franchise anymore.
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