CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES THIS IS MY LAST RESORT

>>83099698
I don't think Lynch minds. He always had and knows he has a small niche audience, despite how vocal that audience is about him.

This show is just OMG SO RANDUMB XD in digital format

>>83099698
>showtime

this is why

I dont have that shit so I'm just gunna have to torrent it

>>83099775
It's only random if you haven't watched the previous material

>>83099800
No all of it is random, David Lynch can't think of a coherent story so he just throws loads of ideas together and hope they sticks

it's not popular with normalfaggots so that means it's kino here

BETTER CALL SAUL WINS AGAIN

TWIN Cucks BTFO!

>>83099815
literally all of it makes sense (besides the asian lady part)

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>>83099698
>implying this isn't exactly what Lynch wanted and what we wanted.

Fuck fairweather fans, this is kino for us and us alone and fuck the ratings, it's all done and its all coming out we're just in for the ride.

>>83099815
lmao I remember when I thought this too

I don't care

>>83099760
Lynch has said that he can accept something flopping or being disliked as long as he got a chance to do exactly what he wanted. He got that here, and he's getting good reviews. He'll be happy with that.

i am completely satisfied with the season so far

>>83099815
His background is as a surrealist painter. He's fused that style with narrative filmmaking, but it's still a part of his system. You don't expect surrealist visual art to make literal sense. That's not what it's trying to do.

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The most discriminating audience on earth, /tv/.

Be proud, shitpost loud.

Don't most people stream anyways? I don't even own a tv anymore.

Because it's on Shittime. Showtime is the literal who of paid channels.

I don't think Showtime were expecting large numbers.

>>83100029
the rankings are
>HBO
>Showtime
>Starz and Cinemax tied

>>83099990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=402rRmsWrAQ

>>83100071
What about amc and netflix?

>>83099815
>David Lynch can't think of a coherent story
The Straight Story, The Elephant Man and Blue Velvet prove you wrong

>>83100129
What about FX?

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>>83099698
>lynch
>caring about numbers

>>83100150
Dunno i'm just asking i just thought that amc was higher. I'm not american.

You faggot. You're misleading anons. It also saw Showtimes largest single new subscription surge. People are streaming it through Amazon and whatnot, not watching on TV.

I know it might come as a surprise to you, but people prefer four hours of unadulterated LYNCH KINO rather than just two.

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>>83099698
http://deadline.com/2017/05/twin-peaks-showtime-streaming-service-signups-record-1202100511/

>>83100187
AMC had Mad Men which was top tier, but FX has done well w/ telekinos like The Americans, Louie, Baskets

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>>83100159
>mfw Chrysta Bell's booty first swayed onscreen

>>83100233
This. Ratings don't mean shit anymore. Nobody watches TV, everybody just streams.

>>83099698
I want to see the stat on new Showtime subscriptions.

That is the actual measure. No one fucking watches live tv anymore. Everyone streams.

>>83099698
TWIN PEAKS IS A MEME

IT WAS NEVER GOOD

>>83099879
>what we wanted.
Kys

>>83099698
Good. That means it won't be milked to death.

>talking about first 4 episodes with normie coworkers
>they shit on it, saying that it's weir for the sake of being weird
>tell them that I acutally enjoyed it
>they get really buthurt, call me mr.pretentious and mr.contrain the whole day
Jesus Christ, you can not like the show but why get so aggresive about it?

>>83099698
>linear TV
>mattering in this day and age

>>83100499
They're threatened by you

>>83100499
Other way around on here.

>>83100499
>talking about first 4 episodes with anons on /tv/
>they love it, saying that it's pure kino
>tell them that I acutally disliked it it
>they get really buthurt, call me a btfo normie and a pleb
Jesus Christ, you can like the show but why get so aggresive about it?

>>83099775
Anyone who has to talk like that, ironically or not, must be 15

>>83099854

So does subtle character portraits BTFO puking creamed corn? I thought so.

i don't trust any show that has a reddit subgeneral on this board

>>83100499

I am thinking that the people that get butthurt about it are the type that can't sit and watch a show truly focused or have all of these thoughts and distractions in their heads. Or do other things when they watch shows or movies. Lynch's shows can get people antsy with the pacing between parts of dialogue or a scene and the bizarre things he puts in his work and Twin Peaks. A lot of things Lynch has said he puts in off the cuff but there is an interesting relationship and actually quality relationship or symbol that develops a lot from these. And a lot of it, and the central stuff, has many good symbols in it that are intended.

His works and Twin Peaks are meant to be disjointed to show the many meanings for different symbols and also to find more.

>>83099698
Everyone I know streamed it

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This show breached 200k viewers once in its 8 ep runtime yet it was the best show of 2016

Showtime aren't really ones to care about ratings
A lot of their shows don't have massive ratings but get great critical reception and award buzz
If TP has that then it's great for them.

>>83099698
>implying this auteur cares if his work gets good ratings

Honestly, if Lynch was truly able to create his series as he envisioned it, then he'd be happy just knowing that.

>>83101836
Were there any black characters in eps 1 and 2? Don't think I've noticed any.

>>83100499
I fucking hate normies

>>83102201
>>83101836
D-didn't mean to reply. S-sorry.

>>83099698
Bane ?

>>83099698

Twin peaks is for hipsters and faux-intellectuals anyways.

>>83102888
t. brainlet

ZOMG

LE GOOB GUP OF COFFEE

XDD

HAHA HE'S JUST LIKE ME

XD

I DRINK COFEEE TOO!!!!


HOLY FACK HAHA

DOUGHNUTS YASS!

ITS FUCKIN BLEBBIC!

ITS TWIN PEAKS1!!!

90S KIDS UNITE *FIST PUMPS*

X------D

>>83102201
The whore Dougie was fucking

>>83103321
What kind of autism do you have to have to post this

why is everyone saying Showtime "doesn't care about ratings"... are you fucking retarded, of course they care about ratings

The better comparison is that it was well beaten by both American Gods & The Leftovers on the same night. They're both "prestige" shows that you could trot out the "Everybody just streams them!" line about but when the live audience is doubled for those its a bad sign.

They only had 440k for the on demand/streaming service anyway so even combined with the cable viewers it still didn't beat Leftovers cable audience.

>>83099698
SUFFOCATION
NO BREATHING

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>tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com

You faggots are a bunch of blind followers of Lynch who won't accept that "Twin Peaks: The Return" is a total disaster. This is the final proof that rebooting old series is a really *really* bad idea, since not even Lynch can do it right.

TPTR is not Twin Peaks: it's a bland, sad, and pathetic attempt of self-celebration in the form of an artificial continuation of an unfinished old work. So old that you, the creator, can't even remember correctly. Ironically, at a metalanguage level, the topics of this reboot perfectly reflect what reboots per se are: concretely, a doppelganger, product of a creative void. It's not Cooper who is lost here, it's David Lynch himself. Maybe this is his unconscientious talking...

I will tell you one thing: after watching the first episode I was actually deceived for a moment, as I thought it was going to be great; maybe it was going to be more in the direction of FWWM, but I was OK with that. But then, after episode two I started to realize what was really going on here. At episode three, I started to cry and almost turned off my TV, as I finally understood what was happening here: it was the dead of one of the greatest artists of the 20th century.

>>83100499
this literally didn't happen

>>83103876

Is this a Dugpa post

>>83100100
idk how that's tp relevant but thank you

>>83100357
retard Coper was cool.

but how is there TWO Cooper now IRL? I thought Evil Cooper/Bob took over Coopers body, replacing his soul. But who is this Gougie Jones??

>>83101026
>can't sit and watch a show truly focused or have all of these thoughts and distractions in their heads. Or do other things when they watch shows or movies

thats literally what the glass box in epsiode one killing those people is about. A critique on the netflix and chill culture

>>83100129
you don't fucking nigger amc is a basic cable and netflix is not a fucking tv channel

amc and fx are basic cable
hbo showtime starz and cinemax are all premium

as for viewers, they don't MEAN SHIT. look at homeland viewers, or shameless. they wouldn't renew these shows if they weren't successful, right?

Good I don't want the GoT faggots ruining Twin Peaks

>>83104292
Except it's not. You are reading too much into it.

>>83103321
that's a great impression of a fat internet piece of shit, now do walken

>>83104292

I didn't post this>>83104723 and I think that it does probably have some intended reference to that and there are many meanings to it as well that are deeper.

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>>83099815
wow check out this retard

>>83099983
Not the anon you replied to, but I feel like you can still critique Lynch's work regardless of his origins with abstract art and analysis. I don't buy that he gets a pass while other filmmakers get shit on for arguably doing some of the same things Lynch does.

And look, I like Lynch. Blue Velvet is great, Eraserhead is great, I just never thought Twin Peaks as his best work. It has flaws, and arguably most of them are what makes the show memorable. But his approach to making movies, which certainly is an art form with a basis on telling a narrative, lacks in certain films, in my opinion. But this is /tv/ so I guess it's wishful thinking to expect reasonable discussions and just call David Lynch an undeniable genius and spout shitty memes like KINO

>>83104723
And you reading too little on a series created by guy who goes heavy on allegories, metaphores and tv/film industry critique.

If I had a brainlet image I would be posting that. So imagine I just did.

It was painfully obvious and borderline unsubtle. The guy watching an empty box couldnt see shit and when he gets distracted by a female normie he misses an important thing. Then they get destroyed for not paying attention to the fucking box in which Cooper appeared some minutes before.

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>>83099698

I hope he is forced to release all his catalogue on Bluray now because of this.

>Niche director pulls in niche audience on a niche premium cable network

What are they gonna do, cancel the 14 episodes already made?
Lmao.

>>83103768
>They only had 440k for the on demand/streaming service anyway so even combined with the cable viewers it still didn't beat Leftovers cable audience.

That must be really bad then because The Leftovers was doing terrible numbers viewer wise last season, no clue if it has went up due to how acclaimed it is.

I think most people my age (early 20's) don't care / know about Twin Peaks, sucks to be them.

>>83099815

go back to the capeshit thread, kiddo

but James is cool he's always been cool

>>83106135
WHENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN?

I haven't watched it yet but I've seen some reviews that don't seem glowing. I'll have to decide for myself. It's one of those shows that needs my full attention and not just on in the background.

>>83105956
But why criticise abstract art for a lack of narrative? Would you criticise mainstream art for an abundance of narrative? It's self-defeating. It's like criticising the colour blue for not being red. Also, Un Chien Andalou. Cinema's origins are in abstract spectacle as much as in narrative. It's like the difference between a poem and a novel.

Also, I find it strange that you think Eraserhead is great, despite almost totally lacking in a coherent plot or arc, but criticise Twin Peaks on the same grounds, despite Twin Peaks having an entirely coherent narrative that's easily intuited.

I don't know if it's age or it's just too different but I was just kind of :O the whole time and I'm not sure if it was in a good way

I long ago decided to give up on decoding David Lynch since he's a surrealist but Twin Peaks has always kind of been the easy one to follow

Gonna stick with it though because I've loved Twin Peaks since forever

>>83106349
I've always found tp easy to follow too, I still find that with the new series. I think once you know or figured out what blue rose means it all falls into place. have you seen eps 3 and 4 yet bc some scenes in those definitely show it going back to its routes

>>83106394
I am about to start ep 3. I didn't DISLIKE it, but man, it is not palatable to the masses. I've seen most of Lynch's work and I appreciate it for all its weird surrealism but I did find the premiere to be pretty strangely different. And I think it'll be SUPER off-putting to people who just go in for the buzz.

>>83106394
>blue rose
and... what is the blue rose exactly?

>>83099698
You know what gets good ratings? The Big Bang Theory

>>83106475
supernatural case

>>83106475
Code for a case with paranormal elements, basically an X file. It's from FWWM

>>83099990
This is what Danzig should've become. Not the blubbering mess he is now.

james being cool was the most unbelievable thing in whole 4 episodes

I feel like they did an awful job promoting it? The last thing I remember about it was when they posted the cast list like a year ago and soooooo many names were on the list but that's all I remember

Its almost as if it wasn't heavily advertised

>>83106436
Why should it be palatable to the masses? This is probably one of the last things Lynch will ever make and he's making it into a continuation of all of his previous work, not trying to make a mainstream commercial success.

a continuation of a weird show that wasn't that popular in the first place airing on showtime bombed? what a surprise.

>>83106712
it was a phenomenon when it first came on.

>>83106712
>wasn't that popular in the first place
why do people on here always make this mistake

I watched Twin Peaks years ago and I really liked it, but even I don't give a shit about the new season. Like, what story is there even left to tell? This is just like that new X-files season that had no reason to exist.

>>83106712
it was SUPER popular in its first season.

second season, not so much.

I bet you it got as many viewers on Showtime Anytime

This isn't going to be a ratings juggernaut because it's Lynch unfiltered

It's all hype. Wait for the dust to settle.
Once all the females and ledditors leave, we can have a proper discussion about the show.

>>83103547
Literally what i thought when i read that

>>83104292
>>83105980

>you have to watch tv 24/7 and if you look away for just a minute for the sake of love and relationships you deserve to die a horrible violent death

okay cool

>>83099815
It really is not that complicated it's just surreal. I don't know how people watch lynch stuff and think he's just being random. It's hardly even cryptic.

>>83099815
It's just not evident, and might recquire a rewatch to understand, which i appreciate.
If you're checking whatsapp or doing something else while you watch you won't fin out what's going on

lynch is garbage, always has been
only decent one is inland empire
the rest is memekino

>>83100145
So does Twin Peaks desu

>>83103876
>unconscientious
way to lose all credibility friendo

>>83099698
>mde got better ratings than TP

jesus...

>>83108205
Weird how they end their episodes the same way

>>83104125
didn't notice the parallel with the one armed man and Dougie? he was wearing the protective ring from the movie...

Dougie was split off by the real doppleganger as as a way to not be sent back to the black lodge. 'evolution of the arm'

>>83099698
What difference does it make, it's not like we were ever going to get a 4th season anyway.

because most people dont have showtime

I dont know why the fuck they put it on a P2W channel when its a huge hit on amazon already

>>83109519

netflix*

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angelo thats gret

>>83109918
fuck off faggotboy

>>83099698

Wait, does anyone actually still own a TV? I haven't had one since 2005.

They made this show for the niche Twin Peaks fandom audience. I really don't think they expected a huge audience.

>>83103994
The girl from the picture is in the video.

>>83100499
They are right

>>83103139
>n-no you
Pathetic anon

>>83101298
I love you, man.

>>83107147
well you are right but inland empire is shit

>>83100246
Don't forget The Shield and Justified.

Twin Peaks is a shitty show.

>>83112888
wtf i hate twin peaks now
fuck drumpf and fuck cooper

>>83113007
Cooper would've voted Johnson

>>83100159

This man has patrician taste in women

Just every single movie he makes

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>>83113007
tfw Lana dating Trump is canon

>>83100499
This didn't happen.

Likelihood of any of your coworkers let alone multiple of them watching Twin Peaks is slim. Odds of you having a job are slimmer.

>>83113227
she was hot af

>>83099698
should have put sam hyde into it instead of brett gelman

>>83099698
>The heavily hyped return of “Twin Peaks” on Showtime didn’t draw much of an audience

You wouldn't know that based on the amount of redditors spamming threads about it here

Never use online faggottry as a test for somethings popularity

i like that the normies aren't watching.

>>83104292
see
That's why I fucking hate surrealism

>>83107095
yes, you fucking casual

>2017
>still caring about ratings

ISHYGDDT

>>83099897
>lol im so smart i got it you didn't xD
there is nothing to get

https://twitter.com/SHO_PR/status/867161803654135809
>has the highest percentage of streaming viewership of any Showtime original series to-date.

>>83099698

>caring about ratings on live TV when it's being simultaneously streamed online from multiple paid sources

The real question is, how many people signed up for Showtime's streaming service in preparation for Twin Peaks?

the new series has probably the best use of CGI I have ever seen. I don't mean 'best CGI', as the images themselves are Doctor-who tier in quality, but instead of trying hard to make uncanny images pretend they are the real thing - like basically 99% of visual effects do - i think Lynch has fully exploited how fake CGI looks to create creepy and uncanny imagery.

It's like with paintings - people had been developing perspective, realistic colors, studied anatomy to get closer and closer to photorealism - untill impressionists, surrealists, cubists etc. came along and played with the medium.

Kyle talked about this in a video a while ago, especially at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV2fHf76uiI

>>83099698
>Showtime
Wait that still exists?

>>83117676
Plus, this style is something Lynch has been doing for years. Only the children of /tv/ are surprised about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msMehuZo3x8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7P1AO6Bm98

I'd like to say I'm surprised that this board is filled with idiots, but these are the same people who make fun of Reddit while being barely more culturally aware.

>>83099815
literally just think about the movies for a second and a coherent narrative is obvious

>>83113262
Yeah I forgot how Twin Peaks was this obscure TV show that no one has ever heard of

>>83118853
The kids on here think that because it was on way before they were born. Give it a few years and The Sopranos will be talked about like a hidden super secret show, too.

>>83099698
>implying this is supposed to be the next big series

>>83106630
This. When Shelley said that shit I was like did Leo and Bobby's blow rot her fucking brain?

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>>83119722
>1992+25
>still thinking james wasn't cool

Grow up lol

>>83100499

>they shit on it

So I guess they just started at season 3 because it was the trendy thing to do?

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The average person says they like "weird" stuff because they think it makes them different, but the "weird" stuff they actually like is the norm. They don't want true surreal avant-garde David Lynch shit, their definition of "weird" is Stranger Things.

It's why Reddit culture is made fun of on here. They think they're into subversive counterculture shit, but their interests are actually as mainstream as you can get.

And I'm not saying Twin Peaks wasn't mainstream, but this iteration is definitely not. The average person is not interested in stuff like this because they don't have the level of taste they claim to have.

>>83120202
>And I'm not saying Twin Peaks wasn't mainstream, but this iteration is definitely not.
Okaaaay...

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>>83100233
no more Tumblr gifs in this brave new era of Twin Peaks threads please

>>83120273
The brand is mainstream, the content isn't. David Lynch is mainstream as far as surrealist filmmakers go, but this season is not something the average person is going to latch onto.

>>83120318
>but this season is not something the average person is going to latch onto
Yikes...

For someone who comments on pop culture you sure as fuck don't know how it works as of lately.

>>83120346
This is a thread about Twin Peaks having 500000 viewers. I don't give a shit about the stream numbers. It's still a show with a preexisting audience, that got a SHITLOAD of promotion from Showtime. The viewership was extremely low, most likely lower than they really expected. Just on ShowTime, pretty much every single episode of Billions had double the viewers of Twin Peaks.

When Curb Your Enthusiasm comes back for example, it will have many more viewers, with decidedly less promotion by HBO.

Twin Peaks will only go down in viewers. Not that it will matter, it's still going to finish, but this is not a moneymaker because it's just too "out there" for the average viewer. This is not a debate.

>>83117676
not only that but the way he is still finding ways to innovate with more traditional editing and composition technics are noteworthy too. For example that scene at the beginning of ep3 with the lady and the way he uses still frames and jumpcuts to distort time is something I never seen before and its incredibly disorienting and confusing in a good way. You really feel like you are in another dimension

>>83100044
nobody watches anything when they are "supposed" to now, only when they want to and have the time

>>83120707
This doesn't explain how the much-hyped debut of Twin Peaks, which Showtime spent months marketing both online and in-between their own programming, had less live viewers upon its debut than any of Showtime's other current dramas did in any of their episodes ever.

The show is doing decently enough critically, but viewership-wise, it's a flop so far, and it's not going to get better. Viewers don't determine the quality of a show, though. It's still the best thing on TV this year. But the mainstream appeal of Twin Peaks ended in 1992.

>>83117676
Ah! So there is a deeper meaning to why all of the corpses are incredibly phony looking.

>>83120846
>but viewership-wise, it's a flop so far

it's a good thing the fans and the creator have no interest in any more twin peaks after this season then, isn't it?

art isn't measured by its popularity, certainly not its popularity when it hasnt even been fully released, it is measured by its quality

i dont think anyone thought or argued that twin peaks s3 would be some kind of massive ratings success

>>83120975
Well yeah, nobody expected it to be Game of Thrones, but the numbers are still lower than expected.

And like I said, viewers don't determine quality. I don't think Lynch or anyone else involved gives a fuck. They made the show they wanted. He's never cared about mass appeal, which makes his success in the industry even more remarkable, in my opinion.

>it's a good thing the fans and the creator have no interest in any more twin peaks after this season then, isn't it?

You're naive as fuck if you think this series is going to end with complete resolution + explanation of the lore. Fans will always be clamoring for more. Lynch and Frost I'm not so sure of, but they haven't said it's out of the question either, even if it seems unlikely.

Getting it done would be difficult, though, because ShowTime or any other network isn't going to give him complete control for a show that doesn't bring in money.

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>>83100499
you think that is bad?

I'm 24 years old

a coworker brought up televisions shows like breaking bad , walking dead and some abc shit about dating

one brought up twin peaks(in my head I said my nigga) , I said I enjoy that show too

4 normies were asking about it but essentially I said the show is a fun ride and on netflix with the new season on showtime

the 4 turned to me and said " what a show from like the early 90s? how can it be good if it is soo old"

I laughed it off and said "heh you'd be surprised" but inside I felt pic related

>>83121408
>when you're empty inside so you construct your identity around the entertainment you mindlessly consume

Twin Peaks exceeded all my expectations

Absolute kino