How exactly is this the "perfect organism"?

>>82995473
>muh acid blood

>>82995473
It's a survivor. Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.

>>82995473
I think the only thing that can save this franchise is somebody from Weyland-Yutani appearing in the next film talking about how they always send complete morons into space and their entire goal was the creation of the Xenomorphs.

It would be an amazing scene with the execs confronting David congratulating him for fluffing his programming completely shitting on his self indulged image of being a god.

It perfectly turns me on

>>82995473

It's perfect in terms of essence. It exists and lives solely for the purpose of killing fucking everything.

alien was cool because the aliens were silent, intelligent, and occasionally walked on two legs instead of REEEEEEEE frothing at the mouth monsters

>>82995576
You admire it

DUDE SYMBOLISM LMAO

DUDE JUST BECAUSE I WRITE IT IN A SCRIPT IT MAKES IT TRUE AND SMART LMAO

DUDE SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF FOR AN ULTRA-HACK LMAO

>>82995602
I admire its purity.

>neomorphs seem infinitely more dangerous
lmao good job Ridley

>>82995473
When you choke yourself like Chris Cornell, but cut yourself free at the same time you cum harder than ever before, because you escape the grasp of Jesus Christ

>>82995773
>"perfect organism"
Oh, I read orgasm. Never mind.

>>82995773
>>82995814
I'm sure this was funnier in your head.

>>82995814
You don't bother with quotation marks when greentexting. Please enjoy your stay though.

Bear in mind that it's a perfect organism based on David's perception.

David is a being designed from scratch by Weyland, who tasked him with figuring out how to live forever based on ancient aliens tech.

To make matters worse David is abused by Weyland's real daughter and filled with various frustrations by Weyland who never fails to mention he's only a creation and an instrument.

Additionally he cannot understand love or sex, because those are alien concepts to him.

Thus he makes an organism that can withstand severe punishment, is generated in a grotesque manner and is both shaped like a dick and uses penetration to violate its victims.

Essentially the xeno is David's Id.

>>82995473
Son of a bitch can survive in the vacuum of space

>>82995473
>Quotes shelley and claims it's the best thing that's ever come out of creation and admires humanity this achievement.
>Wants to kill all humans and replace them for creatures that cant't think of anything beyond eat and reproduce let alone read or write a meaningful piece of pottery
What did he mean by this?

>>82995473
armor skin
doesnt need to breath
armor piercing second mouth/tail
doesnt need to eat to live or grow
can see without light
climb any surface
communicate without words
acid blood

>>82995950
Fucking this, for shitting on humanity he sure enjoyed a bunch of shit created by it

>>82995978
But can a nigga do genetical engineering?

Pleb tier IQ I'd wager

>>82995576
oh, it's got autism.

but who planted the wheat?

>>82995473
>perfect organism

Perfect from David's point of view. David was literally created to make Weyland immortal. Th way David sees things, the xenomorph is the perfect organism, it's virtually unkillable.

>>82995950
Tbf, we don't know that this is all the xenomorphs were capable of. We have never seen them past the earliest stages. If you took the earliest human ancestors, basically bipedal chimpanzees, would you have ever thought "one day they'll land on the moon"? Of course not.

Imagine xenomorphs with 100,000+ years of evolution. Ones who can think in abstract terms, create art, etc. . That would truly be the perfect organism. Physically and mentally perfect.

.....or maybe David just wanted to kill humanity, idk.

>>82995950

My only conclusion is that (ignoring Aliens) we've never seen a civilization xenomorphs would make if left alone to their own devices.

In earlier versions of Alien the xenomorph was just stage 2 in the alien's development cycle where it was feral basically and if left to grow would eventually reach a mature stage where it develops intelligence.
Essentially their growth cycle has phases and once it reaches a mature form you're dealing with an intelligent organism.

Maybe David has that in mind as the final product so to speak and the xenomorph we end up getting is just an unfinished version he managed before he gets stopped.

>>82995590
The xenomorphs in Covenant aren't the same ones from Alien, it's obvious David pumped those eggs full of testosterone.

>>82996155
>it's virtually unkillable
>Cameron's Aliens has them bite it by the hundreds

Fuck Ridley Scott and fuck Alien

>>82996049
not beholden to the laws of thermodynamics > ability to do science

>>82995950
The Shelley quotes should make it obvious. David hates his creators. In Prometheus, especially, they make this very clear. He is furious that his entire existence boils down to:

1. Humans thought it would be fun to make him
2. Humans thought he would be useful

And that is it. He revels in the idea of making humans as helpless and worthless as he has been in his entire existence. That's part of the reason why he maliciously infected Holloway in Prometheus, after having the conversation with him about the Engineers ("what if your creators made you 'because they could', how angry would that make you?"). Human scientists unintentionally gave David real, human emotions, like Dr. Frankenstein in Shelley's book.

The Alien series has really fallen. Alien was great, Aliens was great and Alien 3 was great if you watched the assembly cut. Resurrection was "meh" but still fun.

Everything after Aliens has just been downhill though. I love Alien 3 and it's probably my favorite, but I can see why people hate it. It's a shame, though. Such a wonderful, iconic series destroyed by one of it's original artists. So very, very dishearteningly sad.

>>82996187
*James Cameron

Scott always wanted the xenomorph to be a nearly unkillable creature that's always taken out by strenuous methods.

>>82996331
>it's fun!
Get fucked Whedon apologist

>>82996279
>engineers create advanced AI
>advanced AI create other advanced AI
>other advanced AI destroy engineers

like

p o t t e r y

>>82995875
autistic newfag

>>82996344
Cameron made the Alien concept interesting.
As fun as the first film is, it's doesn't carry as much weight. Of course the Alien would be "unkillable" to a bunch of unarmed, ignorant space truckers. The true horror is realized when an entire team of well-armed and trained professionals take on the fully realized threat (multiple xenomorphs) and fail.

>>82996370
It's not a great movie but I can say some parts are fun. The part with the aquatic scenes I liked. It's mediocre at best and a lot of it is pretty bad.

It's more parody of the first three.

I still think Alien 3 is the best if you watch the assembly cut. Theatrically, I'm stuck between Aliens and Alien. I think Aliens leaves more of an impression because I saw it when I was younger and couldn't stop watching it.

I appreciate Alien more as I got older, though.

It ended at Alien 3.

>>82996331
I don't really agree. I think Alien and Aliens were great, Aliens 3 was mediocre but watchable. Resurrection was bad, AVP was mediocre but "dumb fun"...... but I genuinely like this new direction that they're going in. Prometheus was really entertaining, although I think Ridley was constrained by the corporate guys (who wanted him to make the movie more "Alien"), and I liked Covenant as well. The series definitely fell with Resurrection and AVP, but I think it's taking a new direction and I love it.

But for fuck's sake, can we stop having alien infestation scenes that look like deepthroat pornography?

>>82995473

The really ironic thing is that wheat is the perfect organism.

>>82996419
except the Marines were sent to fail in Aliens

>>82996458
It seems like he went the exact opposite direction of Prometheus with this one. They abandoned almost every plot thread from Prometheus in minutes and just went generic Alien horror mode.

>>82995602
I want to fuck it

>>82996458
I actually agree with you. I think Resurrection was the worst out of the first four, but I still liked a few of the characters and a couple scenes. Don't get me wrong, out of all four original Alien movies, it's the worst.

I did not like AVP. Prometheus was okay in a couple parts but the story was really bad.

Did you try to watch the assembly cut of Alien 3? You really need to.

>>82996389
>pottery

Maybe. The confusing part is the "black goo", and what it does. Is it meant to create xenomorphs? Or did David just alter it that way? But yes, the whole cycle is deliciously ironic. Especially the way that humans create AI which is so advanced, that it doesn't even really care about humans. It wants to kill the Engineers.

>>82996509
Their corporate overlords anticipated their failure, yes, but the viewer doesn't exactly know this for sure until it is revealed. Furthermore, you still see the Marines get their asses kicked the whole film despite their fully functional equipment and training.

>>82995602
You must make a friend of horror.

>>82996331
You cant fucking say this and defend alien 3 and resurrection in the same post

>>82996556
i understand it now

>Engineers create black goo to wipe out humans
>Humans create robot which wipes out engineers

it's like poetry, it rhymes. the creations killing the creators.

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>>82996155
>virtually unkillable
>gets btfo by 100lb women in literally every encounter

>>82996535
>I did not like AVP.

AVP is a guilty pleasure movie for me. It makes no sense and ruins the Alien timeline (to the point that Scott and Cameron both declare it non-canon), but it's dumb fun.

>Prometheus was okay in a couple parts but the story was really bad.

Fair, but as weird as this sounds, what I love about Prometheus is what they were *trying* to do. The dialogue was not strong, and they wasted some excellent actors (the two best actors, Elba and Theron, have what, like 10 minutes of screentime?), but the concept was fantastic. And I was fascinated by David, Fassbender did an incredible job with that character and really stole the show.

>Did you try to watch the assembly cut of Alien 3? You really need to.

I didn't. I have to be honest, I watched the regular cut once (I think it was DVD or VCR) and never went back. Just wasn't a great movie, never caught my attention.

>>82996556

it's an all-purpose mutagen

>>82996562
>their fully functional equipment
canon USCM gets hand me down Army gear
>and training
they were weekend warrior tier at best

>>82995950
Ridley has already confirmed that Lord Byron was a xenomorph.

>>82995950
I believe it is a transparent reference to Frankenstein's monster, who also quoted lots of poetry and wanted to exterminate humanity.

>>82996680
I agree with all of your opinions. I think you're pretty intelligent and we agree on quite a bit.

I'd highly recommend that you watch the assembly cut of Alien 3. It's almost 40 minutes longer, continues a new subplot and a lot of restored music and footage. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt it's a fantastic film. The only thing I didn't like was some questionable VFX work, but seeing more of Clemens, the prisoners (you get to learn a lot more about their names), more about the company, Ripley, the xenomorph, excellent Fincher direction and dark humor, it's just great. You won't regret watching it.

You're right on the theatrical though. I did like it a lot when it came out because I felt like there was more to it and, when the new version came out, it really vindicated my thoughts.

>>82996634
I think it's more than that. The humans created a robot that wants to wipe out ALL of its creators*. That includes humans, and the creators of humans, the Engineers. David is visibly irritated by the way he's dismissed by humans, and even more than that, he's irritated by the idea that humans themselves, his creators, are nothing more than a race of "Davids" for the Engineers.
*IIRC, the exact line from David in Prometheus is "don't we all want to surpass our parents?" .

>>82996640
>gets btfo by 100lb women in literally every encounter

By sheer dumb luck....and come on, Ripley is clearly not normal. Not only for a woman, but for a human. She's a legit action hero.

>>82995814
>>82995773

Autism/10

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>>82996730
citation needed

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I don't get it, how does Covenant connect to Alien? Like, what's the speculated sequence of events?

>>82996856
Let me give you advice

Stop. There are no answers. There will never be answers.

>>82996846
that very same book

>If it can murder a lot of shit it's perfect organism
Lmao not really, if we consider that the main mission is to survive and reproduce. One can argue that water bears are much more sophisticated than ayliens just based on how awesome they feel on earth and how many there are of them.

>Spend years forging the perfect organism
>Have to watch it run face-first into the maw of an inorganic crane

Being David is suffering.

>>82996961
How did the second xeno end up on the ship?

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>>82995626
>DUDE A THIN GLAZE OF RELIGIOUS ICONOGRAPHY IS ENOUGH TO COVER A WEAK PLOT AND NONSENSICAL CHARACTER MOTIVATIONS
>DUDE IT WORKS FOR EVANGELION

>>82996929
>if we consider that the main mission is to survive and reproduce

But what if that isn't its main mission? If that was the point, why not just make some bacteria? There is more to it than that. I don't pretend to know what, exactly, but it's not just survival. IMO, there is a real symbolic aspect to it. David wants to create the monsters that kill his creators.

>>82996846
I know this is autistic, but I am genuinely interested in the USCM's backstory. Surely the US does not dominate the globe, so at "best" they're just the strongest part of a global force. The humans in Alien are clearly a multicultural group. The only thing they have in common is English (which is already the "global language" in 2017 and only growing stronger). Again, I know it's autistic but I would love to see the backstory of how that all came together.

>>82996961
>make perfect organism
>don't put eyes on it

>>82997006
When was there another xeno that grew up? I thought they managed to kill them all, excluding the one crushed by a crane.

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>>82996929
Water bears don't look like penises enough

>>82997006
David vomited it

>>82995473
>talking about how they always send complete morons into space and their entire goal was the creation of the Xenomorphs.
genius

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Anyone else feel really sad when Oram shot the neomorph when David calmed it down?

Was it Scott's intention to make you feel for the creatures' plight?

>3/4 of the way through movie
>Writers suddenly remember this is an Alien movie so they need a tuff female protagonist
>Daniels jarringly morphs into quip-spouting female Rambo

Considering this comes on the heels of two female crew members going full panic mode and dying to an alien the size of a rabid cat - it felt a bit out of place.

>>82996155
Why wouldn't David see robots like himself as the ultimate organism? 1000 Davids would be a lot more dangerous than 1000 xenos. The xenos are basically just animals. More dangerous than any lion or tiger, but still just animals. An army of humans could easily wipe out a horde of xenos. Humans are a stronger organism than xenos, because of their intelligence. Xenos are not virtually unkillable - guns kill them easily enough. David already exists, and he doesn't need thousands of more years of evolution to become more dangerous than humans.

>>82997006
it popped out of the injured dude's chest.
he got raped by a facehugger earlier. his buddy ripped the facehugger off him, but he had already been impregnated

>>82995473
It feeds on life. Dormant till whenever.

Like a god damn tulip.

>>82997110
Surely this was the actual intention, right? A consistent them in these movies is to send an idealist+a bunch of idiots+one Weyland shill (usually an android).

Also, can anybody else explain Idris Elba's pseudo-American accent in in Prometheus? I'm American and I thought he did a great "black American" accent in The Wire, but in Prometheus it just felt wrong, like he was trying to copy a white Texan. Who told him to do that? And where can I send them a complaint letter?

>>82996923
control-F Army
>one result
>"the Marines work for the US, and so does the Army"
Really bursts my chest there.

>>82997173
>chestbursters fuck off ASAP to grow into a monster
>backbursters murder everyone nearby
Honestly the only flaw that the neomorphs seemed to have is that they don't attack gay robots

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>Willingly allowing yourself to be put into a stasis pod that is only one bad bump away from flooding your environment with oxygen until it ignites and burns you alive

>>82996419
It's just a small group of well-armed and trained professionals that unexpectedly have to face a much greater number of xenos than they are ready for. There's nothing in Aliens which suggests that the xenos would be able to take down a properly sized force of humans, or to stop the humans from just nuking them from orbit.

>>82997179
Right? All I could think of throughout the movie was how they could use much more of these android, considering they have CPU up in their head, are highly moral and strong af. All they lack is a line of code that prevents them from harming the crew I suppose.

>>82997013
The US doesn't have to dominate the globe, because American corporations already dominate space.

>>82997289
Maybe it was some bastardized attempt at a new accent, considering culture is likely much different in the 2090's or whenever the movie takes place.

>>82997321
To the movies credit, I really liked how the neomorph went into a sort of calm humanoid stance before it attacked. The idea that it was trying to mimic human appearance is very unsettling.

>>82997324
It's why the crew was so quick to check out the planet

>>82997161
>Was it Scott's intention to make you feel for the creatures' plight?
wtf? the creature was a complete asshole. fuck that albino, moms gonna freak teeth having, skinny bitch alien. Faith Captain killing it was the only right thing he ever did

>>82997179
>Why wouldn't David see robots like himself as the ultimate organism?

David was programmed as a servant. It's easy for us to see David as the ultimate organism, he got his head ripped off and was still working, but David himself is fundamentally incapable of seeing himself that way. This is only my dumbass self's opinion, but I thin David simply cannot think of himself as "above" humans. He can hate them, he can hurt them, he can make monsters to kill them, but on his own? Nothing. The best he can do is what he did to Holloway in Prometheus (poisoning a human on the orders of another human).

Let's give human scientists of the future some credit, do you think they would design an AI who could deliberately harm a human of its own volition? No. David infects Holloway and causes all this because of what his human programmers (acting on orders from Weyland) told him to do.

>>82997179
He's less special if he isn't an only child

>>82997329
You have a point, in that we both agree Alien is not a very "scary" franchise. John Carpenter's The Thing handled alien horror in a much more brutal and yet also psychological way. Instead of having a monster that purposefully resembles genitals (and having the audience get "creeped out" because muh sex, rape, and Freud), Carpenter envisioned a truly grotesque creature that is almost indescribable in both the visceral and literal senses.

>>82997367
I thought the neomorphs were pretty cool in general, they just clash with the rest of the series in my view since they seem more effective than the xenos despite the audience being told the opposite.

>>82997380
I figured it was because the captain was a Christfag and thought the message was a 'Sign' or something.

>>82997312
in mentioned in the part where theyre talking about tanks

>>82997398
>do you think they'd design an AI that could deliberately harm a human
You do realize one of the major themes since the very first movie was the moral ambiguity of artificial intelligence right?

>>82997442
Well consider that 'NEOmorphs' come canonically BEFORE the Xenomorphs.

So why the fuck are they referred to as 'Neo'?

It's just dumb writing for a quick franchise cashgrab so best not to look too deeply.

>(((Weyland)))
>(((Synthetics)))
Poor Shaw

>>82997348
Lol, that's a very fair point. It would also explain why "Elizabeth Shaw" sounds like she is from a Latin country (Latin America or Southern Europe). But everyone else talks "normally". Shaw sounds like an American who grew up in a "latino" area (she sounds like my little sister from Miami. Even Charlize Theron, who is from South Africa, speaks in a perfect American accent.

But Elba....wtf. I like the guy, I thought he was great in Luther, great in The Wire, but somebody should have told him to switch to a normal accent. It actually bothered me in the movie, it was just that bad.

>>82997457
I thought it was really cool that being 'a person of faith' was cause for discrimination in the future. That seems entirely realistic.

>>82997475

Yes, but that doesn't invalidate that they were working on specific orders from someone high-er up.

Ash in Alien was working on behalf of W-Y.
Bishop was a subversion of that since his loyalty stayed with the people he worked with (as he got no specific orders from elsewhere to act otherwise).
David works on behalf of Weyland himself, and once Weyland dies he goes rampant and starts experimenting on his on behalf. David is also unique and was likely given more independence since Weyland had him as his agent and Weyland was desperate for results.

>>82995473
still got nothing on tardigrades

>>82997457
Oram says the neutrino spooked the crew and they didn't want to go back to hypersleep. The new planet found was close enough that they didn't need to go back to sleep and was suitable for colonization.

>>82997544
I think that in Dracula 3000 they did that too

>>82997442
A neo couldn't see or sense a dude from 5 meters away and got fucked up fairly easy by a rifle.

>>82997457
it was both

>>82997475
.....no? The first alien movie came out in 1979, 16 years before I was born, and I saw it at a very young age (I think in 2003 or 2004, when I was 8 or 9), so I guess I missed that meaning. But seriously, isn't that the #1 failsafe any engineer would put into an AI? Don't harm humans?

>>82997544
That is a really depressing thought but probably true.... :(

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>>82995473

The final act of the movie is just so weird, all the actors seem totally nonplussed by the aliens at this point. I mean, Franco's first look at the alien and his only comment is a highly generic 'We've got company!'

Meanwhile Daniels seems to have gotten a triple dose of testosterone and is basically chomping at the bit to 1v1 the alien. Amazing what almost getting raped by an android does to a girl I guess.

I would just like to remind everyone that androids being unable to harm humans is considered a new development in Aliens.

What happened to the other Neomorph? Did the one that Walter punched die? I only remember the first one getting shot by Oram.

>>82997544
And considering how things played out that prejudice was entirely justified.

Was the neomorph that came to David's hideout the same that popped from the gay dude earlier? Why does the script force them to grow so fast?

>>82997544
No shit, Christfags are fucking annoying.

>>82997633
>Aliens are dindus
I like it.

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>man was the real perfect organism all along

>>82997677
The one Walter punched died and the one that got shoot ran off and came after them in the city.

>>82997641
>The final act of the movie is just so weird, all the actors seem totally nonplussed by the aliens at this point.

There are many real-life examples of people becoming desensitized to dangerous situations thanks to adrenaline. Not 100% unrealistic. If you read the diaries of soldiers in the World Wars, you'll notice that they quickly developed a gung-ho attitude towards all that death.

>>82997740
Not really. If we take all alien movies I bet xenos killed way more people than people killed xenos.

>>82997677
One ran away and became the big one that killed the girl with the tits.

>>82997641
I think Ridley just had the xenos show up so the movie can have a climax and because he thinks them not being in Prometheus was why people didn't like it. They felt like an afterthought in the movie based around their creation.

>>82997641
>asks for space axe
>does nothing with it

what was the point of that line and how did she turn into Sara Conner?

>>82997012
>>DUDE IT WORKS FOR EVANGELION
That's a bizarre comparison, but it doesn't.

>>82997752

>Shit we've been in the world war for awhile now, enemy forces literally breathing down our neck, who knows if we'll ever be safe
>Wanna fuck in the shower?
>Sure

>>82997790
Only if they get surprised. A group of marines could take dozens of them, and ripley took out their whole hive alone somehow.

>>82997815
Having a MUH STRONG FEMALE PROTAG in an alien movie is about as mandatory as having an interracial sex scene in a movie made past 2016.

>>82995473
>How exactly is this the "perfect organism"?
It's black.

>>82997790
That's cause the fights always took place on xeno turf. If a small group of xenos came to Earth they would get wrecked.

>>82997840
>A group of marines could take dozens of them
You mean their automated turrets.

Where did david get the eggs from? Some random goo mutation from Elizabeth?
Then why are there eggs in the ancient alien ship in alien 1?

>>82996856
He used colonists to create eggs?
Then somehow found another engineer ship, somehow gets a facehugger onto an engineer and have it chesburst.
Then put eggs on to engineer ship? And sent out a distress beacon?

Wow its so stupid its like someone came up with after the fact

>>82996279
>Shelley's book
His wife wrote Frankenstein, not him, but point taken. That's probably what Ridley was going for.

>what did you do to shaw
>the same thing I'm gonna do to you

>doesn't do the same thing to her

Why did he lie?

>>82997932
But the engineer in alien 1 died a long time ago anon.

>>82997738
>Creative people make up awesome story collaborating with Giger, first artist to get an Academy Award
>your stupid /pol/ mouth
massive gap there, it must make you consider suicide.

>>82998059
tell that to ridley scott

he looks like hes been there awhile but thats still 90 years from covenant isnt it?
obviously the intention in '79 is that its ancient but its not explicit and not clearly stated that its been a longer than 100 years

>>82997877
>Retards don't get that the movies are dealing with some of the same material
>not at all intended as parts of some autistic linear canon including video games and comics
>Scott loved the 'Aliens as astronaut visitors' stuff from the 70s
>and Lovecraft
>and generally is motivated by an existential fear of approaching death
Shit is going over your potato heads i swear, just be happy with some explosions and gunshots.

>>82998059
You don't know how desperate people are for consistent lore in these movies.

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>James Franco in it for only one minute

>>82997641
>The final act of the movie is just so weird, all the actors seem totally nonplussed by the aliens at this point. I mean, Franco's first look at the alien and his only comment is a highly generic 'We've got company!'
yes good point. It's easy for the audience to miss because we're so accustomed to the xenos at this point, but the characters are meeting them for the first time and seem completely detached and display fake emotions. The fucking xeno was like 1 foot away from the guy's face smashing his head on the glass and he didn't flinch at all

>>82998186
Covenant (2104) is 18 years before Alien (2122).

>>82998059
He could've fossilized in 70 years

can anyone explain the neutrino burst.

was it planned or random?

>>82998273
Covenant is less than 20 years before Alien.

>>82998186
>>82998229
>>82998273


Mmh I remember the engineer already being fossilized. But the crew just saw the exoskin from him. It could be that he did just a short time ago. And the retarded crew(as proven in the movies) didn't notice it.

>>82995773
sorry, but could you write it again? I just don't follow

>>82998313
How the fuck would Walter/Weyland engineer a solar event effecting a ship, moron?

>>82998321
Could be, or you could ignore Prometheus and its shit show sequel by a different name,

>>82998341

deus ex machina, my ape friend.

>>82998321
The Space Jockey in the original alien was a shitload bigger than the engineers in Prometheus. I half expect Ridley to sidestep that issue by having it being some other breed of engineer that is bigger ... somehow. God, just let it end.

>>82998362
Nothing suggests that.

>>82998317
He could've fossilized in 18 years.
Maybe the engineer spacesuits have an emergency self-fossilization mechanism

>>82998341
Same way David sent the distress message from LV426 and snuck a facehugger onto the ship at the end of Aliens

>>82995473
Perfect wheat farming organism.

>>82998046

He's going to now that's she sleep bruh

>>82995473
It's black.

>>82998046
Shaw went back into hypersleep after she fixed David and got fucked over.

>>82997179

Ridleys Xenos aren't cannon fodder, the crew had a hard enough time killing the unarmored Neomorphs, I imagine the Xenos could shrug off most weapons with ease.

>>82998313
David probably used some super wicked Engineer tech to produce it

>>82998433
Did she thought? David used her womb to create life, something she herself was incapable of. I imagine a sensation of gratitude wouldn't have been terribly unlikely.

>>82998434
>Neos get BTFO by 5.56 NATO in the 22nd century
>the crew had a hard enough time killing the unarmored Neomorphs
top wew

You now realize that David is most likely going to wake up colonists one by one and have conversations and shit before shoving ayy lmaos into them

You now realize that based Danny McBride will be reduced to an ayy lmao host and will have no idea what David is planning when he wakes him up

>>82998455
She only repaired his ass because only he could pilot the Engineer ship. She ends up experimented and dissected on.

So how the fuck is computing technology going to regress significantly while firearms go from M4s to fucking pulse rifles and shit in like, seventy years?

>>82998523
>pulse rifles
They weren't that advanced. They were still ballistic firearms.

>>82996856
>being this retarded

>>82997012
delet

>>82997226
i thought he clearly put his hand/s in front of his face to defend himself when it jumped onto him so he basically had his hands stuck between his mouth and the face hugger...

>>82998476
Good thing its gonna amount to literally nothing when humans colonize all over them anyway.

What the fuck was Ridley thinking?

>>82998476
>Wake up
>Uhh what's going on why am I the only one awake
>Get quizzed on classical literature, opera, theater and general philosophy
>Get awkwardly kissed
>Get impregnated by alien
>Repeat x2000

>>82998625
It locked onto his face and had to be cut off...

The only one I've seen is Resurrection and I'm assuming it's an indication of series quality, therefore I will not be watching further.

>>82998317
oh wow, god these prequels are retarded

>>82995576
oy vey

>>82998667
yeah but i could have sworn one of his hands got stuck in between. thats why so many people were confused about how a xeno ended up in the ship

>>82998685
Hello underage

Does Walter know about the bonus situation?

>>82998260
yeah he shouts

HOLY SHIT

or something

>>82998733
Fuck off I'm 19

>>82998667
I was surprised he got off so easy when his buddy cut it, I was fully prepared for an awful death where the dudes face gets melted off entirely by acid but apparently that defensive mechanic isn't such a big deal anymore.

I was also under the impression from the first film that the facehugger would snap the hosts neck if threatened but apparently that's not a thing anymore.

>>82998717
Kane had a helmet between him and a facehugger and still got impregnated. A hand won't do shit.

>>82998763
>I was fully prepared for an awful death where the dudes face gets melted off entirely by acid
Only in AvP:R

>>82995576
but it never aspires to more than that.. its just the same as any other dumbass animal just trying to survive at all costs

>>82998760
itty bitty babby

>>82998760
>dipshit millennial doesn't see the first movie in the series
lel

>>82995588

why make this monster when you can create a pathogen that kills everyone?

>Faggot couple focused on in the trailer
>Barely acknowledged in the actual movie aside from the dude touching the other dudes wedding ring after he dies

Kek. Faggots BTFO.

>>82998260
it takes more than a nigger space bug to scare a Texan like Tennessee

>>82998837
David wanted to create life for reasons.

>>82998853

who were any of the characters.

only one I recognized and liked was Tennessee.

>>82998853
They really focused on the death of one of them, but the lack of character development meant they felt like faceless goons to show off some CGI deaths.
This movie will really benefit from the director's cut I reckon.

>>82998234


Poor guy, dies in the first act.

>>82998234
Good, he's a shitty actor.

>>82998234
>>82998957
>>82998992
>jew dies by incineration
lel

>>82998144
Did space niggers rob you or something?

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>Things go slightly wrong
>One chick starts screeching in pure panic and fires into fuel storage
>Other one dies to an alien which probably only weighs 25kg and is the size of a house cat
>Religious fag makes horrible decisions
>Black male/white female couple simply have to fuck immediately after the deaths of a dozen crewmates and die because of their own degeneracy

Is Ridley secretly red pilled?

>>82998992


His stupid fat friend result more good actor, and survive along the movie.

>>82998853

still had to squirm through that fucking flute scene

>>82997633
That is so much more interesting then them being designed by a robot

>>82999040


>The christian guy dies

Nope, i tough he would live until the end.

>>82996556
To my understanding, they recorded a part in Covenant to explain why David carpet bombs the "Engineers". but due to time constraints they cut it out.

The black goo is a catalyst to promote new life. Just like in the beginning of Prometheus, the Engineer kills himself with the goo to promote new life.

David learns of this on the ship before arriving and figures if he kills all of the engineers, it will bring forth a new species that he can eventually study and hopefully engineer a version that isn't susceptible to light like the white neomorphs are.

>>82999084
You'll take this unnecessary prequel trilogy and you'll fucking like it.

>>82999088
>still believing in jewish fairytales after finding life on other planets
lmao @ Oram's life

>>82998853
>gay couple in trailer
>REEEEEEE WHY BRING THEM IF THEY CAN'T REPRODUCE
>there's literally a thousand other couples on the ship


Alt-right fuckboys BTFO.

>>82999133
yes yes, they are easily triggered children. We're well aware.

>>82999133
>Bring couples
>A single death is monumentally more jarring and destructive to crew psyche than it would be otherwise

Genius ;)

>>82999129


So, father. You create me, David. Who create you? The engineers, but.......... Who create the engineers?


God create all living criature.

Never ever trust the AI, folks. That's the whole point of movie.

I hope we'll never create the advanced AI like David or Walter in the future

>>82999193
Jesus isn't the Son of God in Alien universe though :^).

>>82999133
Except the gay couple ends up being brushed discreetly under the rug in the film, proving that the producers responsible for the movie are much more homophobic than your dreaded 'alt-right' boogeyman?

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>>82999225
>brushed discreetly under the rug in the film

Yeah, I'm sure between the trailer and release they reedited the entire film just for you.

>>82999270
Well, I don't choke on dick 24/7 so maybe I missed the memo about how one guy telling another guy he needs to do more yoga is secret fag terminology only used between deeply intimate gay couples.

>>82999224

If they investigate the engineers. They would have their own form of god.

>>82998829
We're animals. Aspirations beyond survival are a social construct. Aliens are the best at survival.

>>82999225
Is it even explicitly stated that they're a couple in the final cut?

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how did david manage to kill walter when he was a weaker model?

>>82995473

because he's intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor

>>82999364
>Aliens are the best at survival.
>consistently outwitted by rednecks and muhreens in space
lmao

>>82995588

>It exists and lives solely for the purpose of killing fucking everything.

What separates them from every other non-sentient predator

>>82999214
Coward

>>82999364
>Aliens are the best at survival.

>HOLY SHIT IS THAT A DEADLY CRANE CLAW?
>I BETTER CHARGE RIGHT INTO THAT SHIT

>best at survival

The Planet wasnt the engineers Planet. But just another experiment similiar to earth.
But the race living there was "worthy" and were contacted peacefully from the engineers for reasons.

This Explains:
Why it was a "backward" world with large forests and little infrastructure.
The engi ship was welcomed in the main square by a large happy crowd and no security
The big religious stone buildings.

>>82999384
With the knife he was reaching for.
He won a fight against a stronger opponent by using a weapon.

>>82999377
As one is dying they get rather intimate.

>>82999413

nope, it's called being smart

The sad thing is that David's 'perfect organism' doesn't happen until Alien Resurrection when Ripley is cloned with alien DNA and mad basketball skills.

Too bad he wasn't around to enjoy the fruits of his labor.

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>>82999418
Why is it so hard to believe that Ridley is just a hack man?

>>82998560
They still had a very futuristic aesthetic. Additionally, why is everything gonna go from holographic touch screen bullshit to the analog industrial style somehow? Tech style is fucking super inconsistent.

>>82999407
>>consistently outwitted by rednecks and muhreens in space

With the exception of Aliens, the Xenos always have inferior numbers yet rack up a much higher kill count.

>>82999418
So why David wasted most of his precious nigger semen on th backwards planet?

>>82999443
>Husband dies
>Touch his wedding ring and go in for kiss

Apparently death makes the crew extremely horny, as evidenced by the navigators shower shagging.

>>82999468
>With the exception of Aliens, the Xenos always have inferior numbers yet rack up a much higher kill count.
Only due to muh acid blood bullshit.

>>82999443
I know, but that came off like they're just really good mates. I didn't even realise they were meant to be a couple until I saw people losing their shit over 'the fags' when I got home.

>>82999407
>>82999414
They don't need food, are extremely sturdy, can survive in almost any environment, even space.

Ants are "stupid" to us and yet they're way more prevalent, sturdy, and will be around long after we are.

>>82999420
yet walter stabbed and slashed david multiple times and beat his face so much that his voice started to get distorted

>>82999445
By that logic the caveman should have forever feared fire

>>82999463
>They still had a very futuristic aesthetic.
That means nothing. We have futuristic looking firearms right now.

>>82995473
muh wheat

>>82999497
its only a film.

>>82999482
>Apparently death makes the crew extremely horny, as evidenced by the navigators shower shagging.
They didn't know the security captain was pregnant and David was impersonating Walter. For all intents and purposes they were safe, so why not fuck before hypersleep one more time?

>>82999088
>Christian
He wasn't Christian. He's obviously some kind of nondescript future religion.

>>82995849
>>82995875
>>82996833
I love it when a plan comes together

>>82999461
i like alien :)
>>82999470
Perhaps this world was enough for him. He just wanted to create something on his own and fuck some humans. A planet with zero resistence, close to the mankind sector is perfect for this.
Also he has enough black goo for his "reasearch".

>>82999418
Not sure I buy it, but it would explain why they looked so different from Prometheus engineer.

>>82995895
>Weyland's real daughter

Dude, Vickers was as much of a daughter to Weyland as Roy Batty was a son to Tyrell.

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>>82999490
>really good mates

>>82999596
Really, really good mates.

I want an android/xeno hybrid already.

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>mfw you could see Daniel's nipples poking through her shirt when they were chasing the xenomorph through the ship

>>82999418
To add one more thing:
it could also explain why this planet was overlooked by the humans. No radio emissions, because the race doesn't have the technology.

And the humans didnt find the planet because the engineers hid it.

>>82999497
autism

>>82996187
>complains that Cameron's aliens die too easily
>blames Scott

This isn't even autism, it's something else, like you were deprived of oxygen at birth or something

>>82996155
>Imagine xenomorphs with 100,000+ years of evolution.

If the extended universe counts, then the Xenomorphs were around since forever. The Ancient Preadtors hunted them and spread them in many planets.

Guess what? They didn't evolve to be anything else. Not even on their homeworlds Xenomorpth prime did they change to anything other than what they are.

>>82996037
>for shitting on humanity he sure enjoyed a bunch of shit created by it
Was David a nigger?

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>>82995576
>>82995602
>>82995657

Everyone in this thread is an endomorph.

>>82999998
so close to a nice get

>>82997012
Why are you even bringing Eva to this thread you dummy.
Symbolism is not what works for Eva,
there's a lot more.

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>yfw Shaw got fucking Newt'd

>>82996256
Except very xeno in the entire franchise is killed by weak nerds who can do science.

>>82995576
>Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.
Just like its father.

What about the scar under davids chin from the cheezus nail? Wouldn't that beeen a dead give away it wasnt walter

>>83000500
Eventually, after lots of struggle and casualties.

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>>82995473

WOW, so after just getting back from seeing the film i can safely say that i agree with /tv/ for once on how fucking DULL the film is.

The film doesn't even stand on its own 2 feet and borrows most of its main moments from the previous alien films.

The good
>Walter: but humans created us
>david:........ Even monkeys eventually learned to walk up right
>the white neomorph that sneaks up on the bitch and rips her head off
>davids interaction with the above neomorph and his reaction after its killed
>David not giving a single fuck about who or what the engineers were and nuked them the moment he got to the planet

Ridley really is out of ideas for this dead ass franchise.
The neomorphs were pretty damn awsmoe i have to admit,but they are only in the film for a short while and the movie doesn't even explain or show anything about how are created and what makes them different from the Xeno we are accustomed to.
>DAVID/FASSBENDER IS LITERALLY THE ONLY SAVING GRACE OF THE DULL AS ENTRY TO THE ALIENS FRANCHISE

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This got me thinking David shouldve aimed for a life form that assimilated and destroyed from within thats what the best pathogens do- they spread easily and leave the host alive and feeling fine.
Shouldve made the aliens fucking machines where breeding with them feels much better than fucking a human like you get addicted to fucking them and then the aliens give birth or humans have nonlethal nonpainful births
sounds a lot like getting BLACKED though

>>82996049
Low cunning, take all the mean shit that nature can do and make a Man sized monster that just fucks shit up.

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what did Ridley mean with this?

>>82995576
Good answer.

>>82995602
The perfect response.

This was the perfect organism of shit posting on 4chan.

The movie makes a powerful argument against reproduction of whites.

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>>83000921

sounds like what happened in the movie Species

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>>82995602
>>82995576

>Yeah, yeah, yeah dats all good n errythang, but can we talk about the bonus situation?

>>83000783
Nerds still win. It's only ever a close battle because the xenos surprise an unequipped band of civilians in almost every film. Because a movie about killing aliens safely from orbit would suck.

>>83000921
Also instead of being acidic their fluids are made of a substance similar to heroin

>>82998853
>>82999133

Who the fuck was gay?? Didnt even notice?

>>83001065
What would Parker have done with his bonus?

>>82999384
dat extra hand

>>83001254
Malt liquor and dem hoes i'd wager.

>>82999193
Then who creates God?

>>83001330
Ridley Scott

>>82995576
So it's edgy as fuck?

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>>83001195
the two guys on the left next to Franco

>>83001060
Or that one episode in futurama where you can download sexbots

>>83001411
Fucking hell I dont even remember them. And why was james franco in it?

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>>82996824
>don't we all want to surpass our parents

>>83001516
This line bothered me. It's absolutely correct but there is no way he would know that. Ever. That would be like him saying "dont we all want to be understood to the deepest core of our being?"

>>83001411
>>83001515
Here's all I can remember from watching it a few hours ago.

left to right
>another female protagonist
>crying retard fucks everyone over
>obligatory tits
>gay
>gay
>literally who
>climbed a mountain and then died in his sleep
>space cowboy
>two more literal whos
>girl on ship that doesn't do anything
>BLACKED.com
>dies to a bug
>captain fuckup
>David's autistic brother

>>82995590
It REEEEEEs a few times in the original too. They also tried to make it more mobile in the original, but cut it when they realized that it looked goofy as shit, and was blatantly a guy in a suit. It's an "art from adversity" situation, similar to Jaws.

>>83001195
>>83001411
WHAT BLATANT SJW PROPAGANDA!!!!

Would this be an appropriate time to discuss Parker & Brett's bonus situation?

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>tfw you realize alien is literally sonic tier

>>82995576

This. It's autistic.

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>>82997685
>>82997677

THISSSSSSSSSSS

And shouldn't there have been more neomorphs on the planet based on the fact that david said the spores can either kill their host or mutate them?

That means we should have seen many differnt types of neomorphs in the film,but the one we see are the same ones that spawns from the infected memebers

>>83001967
The concept of the "Ultimate Lifeform" being an anthropomorphic cartoon hedgehog who acts like an edgy teenager is beyond autistic.

>>82995576
does it have a wicked sense of humor as well?

>>83002030
almost as bad as a giant anthropomorphic parasitoid wasp being the perfect organism

>>83002115
>in Covenant thread
>hasn't seen Alien

>>82999482
Isn't this a steadfast rule in hollywood at this point? It's pretty routine, and constantly ticks me off.

>>82999496
So David's more on the quantity side in quantity vs quality. Some great creator he is.

>>83002030
this post made me laugh a lot

>>83001547
I though the point was to show how he nuts in the head, since Shaw retorts that she didn't. Showing the separation between believer and non believer, between human and automaton, soul and no soul, and so on. I mean, he certainly does make an effort to kill his creator and his creator's creator. It seems like a pivotal line to me.

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>Race mix
>Die

>>83002393
>he certainly does make an effort to kill his creator

Not Weyland though.

In Prometheus he's Weyland's obedient lapdog to the end.

It's just that Weyland sanctioned him to experiment on humans on his behalf so when Weyland died and David lived there is no more safeguard about David honoring human life.

>>83002458
Makes sense, Weyland seems the type to not use the Three Laws of Robotics.

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>>82996077

>>83001060
I busted so many nuts to that movie.

>>83001857
I was just saying i didnt even know about it when i watched the film. Sounds to me like they were pandering to progressives in the trailer and exploiting them for jewbucks. Like always.

>>83001254
Gone home and partied

>>82999193
Is God in on the bonus situation?

>>82999631
welcome to alien. There are no bras in space.

Stupid ass movie, worse than Prometheus.

People in the cinema disliked it.

>mfw after black screen a "in memory of ...." pops up

say out loud, it should've said "in the memory of Alien franchise" and hear people laugh at my remark

>>83003184
never happened

>>83003184
they were probably laughing at your display of autism

>>83001195
>Didnt even notice?
that's because you actually had to pay attention to the dialogue to notice it

>>82997012
yeah but what does Zach Snyder have to do with anything?

>>83002004
because they probably died off with nothing to eat but themselves?

>>82995473
It looks cool

Can alien have prostatitis?

>>82995814
xD
Oh MAN
lmao to the lmFao haha woah

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Why does David have an egg stash when there's no queen to be found?

How the fuck did he get ahold of that ship?

Was I supposed to watch Prometheus and A3 first?

>>83003518
The egg stash is how own creation (he is literally bragging about creating it), but yeah, watching prometheus would have explained the ship

>>83003518
>Why does David have an egg stash when there's no queen to be found?
as much as I enjoy Aliens, fuck James Cameron for turning them into giant space ants

>>82999082
You sound a bit insecure. Here, I'll do the fingering and you blow me.

>>82999082
A dude making out with himself isn't gay, it is more akin to masturbation

No one seemed really shocked at seeing that one chick's decapitated corpse, especially considering the gullible face hugged retard was religious.

>OK clearly evil synthetic who was taming an alien, I'll follow you into this deep dark pit

>>82997609

I thought that was because he was pulled into a false sense of security by Horse Whisperer Bot.

>>82995473
>humans can colonize space and prevent asteroid strikes
>xeno quickly uses up/kills all hosts, animal life dies out, eggs lie dormant until extinction level event
"perfect"

>>82997834
The two who died in the shower never touched down on the planet, never had contact with the alien, didn't even know one was on board, and just generally didn't know how fucked it things were as they were essentially removed from the whole situation. Using them as an example is unfair to the movie and just an example of your childish nitpicking.

One thing that especially pissed me off about this movie was the bitch who locked her friend in the med-bay with the first neomorph and started crying and panicking. If the fucking retard had only just let her friend out while the entire spectacle was happening, before the neomorph even got its bearings (WHICH WAS A LONG ASS TIME) then she would've never had gotten her friend killed, blown up the ship, and they could've all gotten to the ship without any problems while taking care of the generally squishier Neo-morphs later. That woman essentially killed herself and all her friends.

>>83004770
>entrusting women with anything important

>>83004770
>If the fucking retard had only just let her friend out
Letting out person who was in contact with another person who got some unknown disease on unknown planet sound fucking dumb to me. So locking them two in med bay was only smart decision in the whole movie, and should she do otherwise you would've been bitching about it even harder.

>>82995473

Why do people still praise the series? The first two movies best aspects are the visuals and monster design. It's only iconic because it was the first to do a few things (do them well and in a popular medium). The story and characters are nothing remarkable at all.

Why are they always drooling?
Do they have an excessive salivation problem?

>>83003518
have people just missed the entire film? the whole second act post-david being introduced centers around davids experiments where he explains how he developed the xeno's and etc. the eggs are from shaw's reproductive system (which we are told was removed)

>>83005573
braces