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Does forced diversity hurt the quality of films?

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Does forced diversity hurt the quality of films?
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>>82986711
Yes
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Depends.

>wouldn't it be cool if he had a bunch of buff dudes from different backgrounds coming together to fight a predator

That's neat

>We need a few minorities to balance out our white lead, that will do well with the test audiences.

That's gay
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>>82986743
idk apparently things that are diversity do better than things that aren't.
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>>82986788
This, also if you are adapting existing work its usually a bad idea. Historical pieces are probably the worst though, having niggers in medieval europe playing kings and shit is retarded, why not make stories about africa or something with all black cast.
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>>82986711

Yes, because it's always niggers, other minorities exist too but of course Asians and Hispanics don't exist for these retards.
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>>82986836
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>>82986711
It does when minorities are shoehorned into historical pieces where they wouldn't have been, like black people in Beauty and the Beast.
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No we are objectively in the golden age of film. Mad white boys and r/theDonald fags are just pmsing
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>>82986862
Uh, black people literally taught Europeans how to bathe
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>>82986890
https://youtu.be/ANj9JBjrRB4

The guy from Izombie says it.
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>>82986992
is that why our skin is white?
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yeah I literally couldn't understand that indian guy in Jurassic world
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Yes because it inherently makes the movie a vehicle for politics of the director.
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>>82986711
Shitty nostalgia for dead IPs is the bigger criminal.
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>>82986711
Why the fuck is there a kid in a predator movie?
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>Olivia Munn
>black funny man
>ginger kid

They're never going to succeed where the first Predator did because they don't understand why it was so great. It was just an insane testosterone fueled crazy good time. The only woman is an attractive one that exists to be yelled at.
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That pic has zero charisma compared to the first one
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i liked predators (2010)
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>>82987256
so did I
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The original cast of Predator was equally diverse. Having a cast of 10 white males isn't interesting. You're a retard. Get fucked.
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>>82987349
Carl Weathers is an honorary white man.
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>>82987349
You fucking idiot. It wasn't forced. That's the difference
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>>82987001
He actually says something interesting in that video. it annoys him that white people can play any type of white person, but people will get offended if he as an indian played an egyptian or some other brown role. As long as he's convincing it shouldn't matter.
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>>82986836
they do, look at all the recent flops with white male leads like king arthur while movies with women or non white male leads are performing great (star wars, get out, fast 8 etc)
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>>82987435
he's a shit actor though
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>>82987256
you aren't alone
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>>82986711
Yes

>>82986788
This
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>>82987455
they could have replaced everyone with snails star wars box office result would have been the same
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>>82987414
Is it forced in the new one? When I look at the picture I don't think "Shane Black is trying to appeal to everyone", I just think it looks like a bunch of soldiers.
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>>82987477
Idk I only seen him act in one thing and he does that well.
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>>82987477
Never watched iZombie so I wouldn't know. I like him in the youtube videos though.
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>>82987560
>smart black guy that does computers well
>badass black guy that veers close to the stereotype they want
>white man
>asian/hispanic/some kind of european woman that don't need no man and don't take no shit from no one nuh uh
>black funny man make joke
>retard kid that is secretly a genius and has the cure to the predator virus in his boypussy
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>>82987600
no you don't you dumb faget
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>>82986711

Nevermind diversity, this has to be the saddest movie cast I've seen in ages. It's like they're not even trying, is this one of those 'need to make a movie which loses money for tax reasons' type shit ?

Seriously, this looks like the cast of a low budget Sy-fy series, not something that will try to compete at the box office.

Predator franchise is officially dead.
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>>82987256
>>82987277
>>82987490
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the cast isn't even the worst part about this shitflick

literally PREDATORS THAT JOIN THE HUMAN RACE AGAINST OTHER PREDATORS
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I thought it was dumb they had two flying black guys in the avengers movie or whatever. I couldn't even tell them apart. Didn't Ike say something like that and people got all triggered? He was right
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>>82987746
>Hating a movie for not having enough big names
You're the reason Hollywood is dying you fucking faggot
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>>82986711
How does one define forced diversity?
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The problem isn't the races of these people, the problem is they look like they're in line for starbucks, not like they're battling predators
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>>82986992
and yet black people still smell.
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>>82987800
It's gonna be hilarious in the final Avengers movies when they have to squeeze in the diversity, but the movie has too many characters already so Falcon, War Machine and Black Panther are gonna be small cameos.
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>>82987746
I laughed so hard at this. He's right
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The tank is cool, but I don't know.
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>>82987995
the fuck
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>>82987635
Ah yes, gotta tap that Black hacker in a predator movie market, dumbo
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>>82987635
None of those things are new except maybe the tech savy black guy, and even then this is not such a huge cliche, is it?
You faggots are just desperate to get outraged
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>>82987435
>brown playing other type of brown
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>>82987817

>You're the reason Hollywood is dying you fucking faggot

Yeah, because having actors that draw audiences is some recent concept in Hollywood you dumb fuck.

Also the original cast looked like they could take on a Predator and a small guerilla army, these fuckers looks like social workers.

And that kid, wtf...
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>>82988085
>reddit spacing
How about suicide?
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>>82988131

Snappy comeback...
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>>82988131
pathetic forced meme
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>>82988085
>Social workers vs Predator

sounds like what they would have done if Predator 2 had been a hit
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I like the helmet
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>>82988131
>wanting to save hollywood
you first lad
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>>82986836
Hm, wonder where you heard that.
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>>82986711
there needs to be at least 3 more black men in that picture. what a racist film
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and the last one.
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http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2017/02/20/first-look-at-the-predator-cast-r-rating-confirmed

hate the casting
still intrested
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>>82986711
>>82987841

To me, forced diversity is when you can tell that the only reason there is a black/hispanic/asian person playing a character is because the ((studio execs)) want to play up the SJW crowd, even at the cost of the script.

Examples: The most recent Magnificent Seven reboot is not forced diversity. I have no problem believing the cast for this movie because the characters are appropriate to the time period the movie is set in.

The King Arthur movie, however, is forced diversity. It is extremely doubtful that A) a black man would be a knight of a medieval court, B) several free black people would be just sprinkled around Medieval England, and C) that there would be a Chinese martial arts master in medieval London.

Now, that doesn't mean that black people/minorities have to be excluded from all medieval/high fantasy movies. In the Kevin Costner Robin Hood adaption, for example, Morgan Freeman plays a Moorish soldier. This is a believable character, and adds to the story rather than takes away from it.
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3 black guys and 1 white guy

reminder that black guys are 6 percent of the US population, even less in Europe and like .01 percent of China's population.

Blacks are WAY over represented in film.
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>>82988187
>jamaicanmilitaryexercise.jpg
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>>82988292
>reminder that black guys are 6 percent of the US population,

what
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>>82988279
Nigger, that movie had demons and all kinds of shit, they didn't even have Levis in their day and everyone was wearing levis and shit. I thought I was watching Christopher Lambert's Beowulf or something.
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>>82986711
3 blacks out 5 mains excluding the kid......

You'd think we were majority black here in the states if your only American knowledge was watching movies and tv shows.

An Asian girl in my class said she used to think the US was like 50 50 white and black. Then she came here and realized it absolutely fucking isn't.
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obviously just by saying something is "forced" implies the writing is bad

however, just because there is more than 1 minority in the cast doesn't automatically mean its forced
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>>82988333
Blacks are around 13 percent of the US population give or take. Black males are around half of that.

Stay in school, Carl.
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>>82988333
I think he meant black men.
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>>82988398
What about when the cast in majority non white and all the non whites are black males?

(excluding Munn who is a hapa)
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>>82988279
I kinda agree with you, but Magnificent Seven looks like it has forced diversity. I look at that group and I don't believe it for a god damn second.
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>>82986711
Does Shane have a nigger fetish or something?

Or is he forced to use this cast? 3 nigger guys? They look the fucking same.
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>Hugely successful franchise
>Popular in Asia
>Barely any whites

REALLY makes me think
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>>82988483
>People see Fast and Furious for the actors

You really are dumb.
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>>82986711
This topic is discussed every day here... meanwhile 90% of the movies discussed here are from the last 40 years or so, and one barely ever sees any discussion of movies from the incredible 1940s-1980s time period. Television & Film, my ass.
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>>82986711
It is when you consciously try keeping score and sacrafice artistic integrity for the sake of statement.
It's "good" when nobody gives af like pic related
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>>82988499
watching old flicks is such a huge waste of time

at least read a book or something
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>>82987349
>Having a cast of 10 white males isn't interesting
Agreed, 10 is not nearly enough.
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>>82988431
the point is the makeup of a cast doesn't automatically mean anything but is instead about how the story/characters are written
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>>82988499
But we have to have 5 threads at all times talking about how there's too many black actors.
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>>82988465
Tyler Perry is secretly producing the film.
They were THIS close to a Madea Vs Predator movie.
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I want to see what would happen to Japanese films if whites just started mass migrating there until we were like 15 percent of their population.

I wonder if they would start putting a shit ton of us in their movies like Jews do non whites.

What do you guys think?
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>>82986711
Of course it does, Djimon Hounsou should know better than to sign on to King Arthur... imagine if Michael Fassbender played Kunta Kinte?
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No, Forced Munn hurts films.
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>>82988530
In this case it looks kind of stupid. 3 similar looking nigger males in a cast of 5 and a kid?

It sounds like you're trying to excuse this shit.
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>>82988529
Tbf, if you get 10 buff, white Hollywood action stars they would all pretty much look and act the same. It's different in a drama with actual actors.
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>>82987800
>I thought it was dumb they had two flying black guys in the avengers movie or whatever.
That's the opposite of forced diversity though. It's forced when there's one member of a group put in as a token. If you just chose heroes at random, you could easily end up with 2 flying black guys.
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>>82988633
The 3 niggers in this movie look the same too.

You can give them different characters. To say white male stars would act the same is stupid.
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>>82988567
I went to Japan and I'm 5'4 and towered over everyone. Impregnated 16 women on my first day, the men as well they wanted it the japanese will die at my hands
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>>82987800
m8, you're just stupid
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>>82988635
Nothing in movies is random you dumb fuck.

They purposely chose 2 flying black guys and it was fucking stupid.
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>>82988635
no way. There are way more super heroes that aren't black guys. They just didn't want to turn down any black guy they already forced into another movie
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>>82986862
WHAT stories about Africa, they couldn't read or write before slavery!
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>>82987256
I did too, in fact I liked it much more than Predator 2
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>>82988673
not an argument
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>>82988635
It's actually not. They have a bunch of well liked white characters and then throw in the black B-team so that people won't get upset.
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>>82988610
Who cares honestly
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>>82988755
Of course you don't care, Schlomo.
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>>82988755
I love it.

Majority white Chads
>wheres the diversity reeeeeeeee

Majority nigs in a country where they are 13 percent of the pop.
>Who cares, goyim?
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>>82988676
>>82988702
They are comic book accurate and made sense for the story, choosing them for any other reason would be "forced"
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>>82988660
And some of the people in 12 angry men look the same. Doesn't matter cause they have distinctive characters, which was done pretty well in the original Predator. And Key doesn't even look like the other two.
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>>82988828
The original was great.

Having 5 members and 3 being black males that look similar is fucking stupid and smells like politics.

And Key looks like ever other bald nigger. He needs to quit crying about Trump too.
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>>82988825
>made sense for the story

lol they totally needed two black guys to fly around and barely do anything important
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>>82988497
>People see predators for the actors and not the predator

k
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>>82988828
Comparing an old ass movie nobody cares about to a new Predator remake?

Try harder leftist faggot.
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>>82986711
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>>82986711
no because forced diversity only exists for mainstream blockbuster trash that would be shit either way
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>>82988903
>Nobody cared about the cast of the original Predator.

Damn, you are dumb as fuck. The actors are what made the show so great. Predator 2 sucked ass.
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>>82988921
>When you don't have an argument and Russia isn't an option.
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What I have a problem with is how fucking retarded the plot of the new Predator sounds and that Oliva Munn keeps getting work from sucking dick
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>>82988813
>Implying I'm the one going "reeeeeee" in this discussion while you're crying about 3 black men
I really don't care. They look convincing enough as soldiers, no Liam Hemsworth or Ricky Whittle.
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>>82988906
I wasn't even the one who brought up 12 angry men you fucking retard
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>>82988970
1 white guy in an American movie with the rest of the male cast being black.

You faggots only defend this shit when its whites being under represented.
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>>82986711
Man, they went way over the top with the nigger casting.

Guess America is like 70 percent nigger now.
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FUCK DONALD DRUMPF

AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE
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>>82986872
Niggers make easier pawns in the political game.
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>>82986711
That dad always gets me
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>>82989093
And now the casting totally makes sense.

Gonna save my money on this one.
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>>82988876
>It's the horrible year of 2017
>Can't have a conversation with an American without it turning to politics
I hope this Trump guy makes America great again soon so everyone stops whining on the internet
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>>82986711
I think so, that kid simply doesn't belong.
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>>82989114
Nice argument.
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>>82989127
I'm sorry what I meant to say was:
13% BLACK PEOPLE REEEEEEEEEE
THEY AREN'T EVEN TRUMP SUPPORTERS
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>>82986711
I have no idea what criteria you use to figure out when diversity is forced or natural. The original one had diversity. Is this one forced just because it's new? What's a modern movie without forced diversity in your view?
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>>82986711
This cast looks atrocious regardless of race.
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>5 POC 1 white guy.

You guys realize that the white guy is the forced race right?
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>>82989182
Reminder that the original Predator was a (((Joel Silver))) production

Reminder that Predator 2 had a black lead
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>>82989221
Is Shane a cuck?
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>>82989229
Reminder that Predator 2 sucked ass
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>>82986836
>CITATION NEEDED
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>>82986836
>1 white guy
>3 near identicle niggers
>diverse
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>anon, why are you so racist?
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>>82986711
I wonder what its like to be black and get jobs just for being black.

Sounds easy.
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>>82986862
>why not make stories about africa or something with all black cast?

Better yet, why not make a movie about Africa with an all white cast?
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>>82987256
I also liked it.

>five o'clock? bitch-rapin' time
>fuck you space faggot
>the stereotypical russian guy
>that awful adrian brody rehash of schwarzenegger's dialogue

Don't know why people didn't like it, desu.
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>>82986711
Why would you add a kid to a fucking Predator movie. You just know he's going to be one of those annoying kid characters that make you hope the Predator fucking scalps him.
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>>82987256
>I liked Predators

So did my mom.
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This movie is almost as diverse as the Black Panther movie.
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>>82988483
>Barely any whites

I see a bunch of white people though (the only nonwhite being the rock and michelle rodrigeous, I'm american btw
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>>82989252
https://youtu.be/ANj9JBjrRB4
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>>82989373
Vin Diesel is a mulatto, doesn't count as white, and Walker is 6 feet under.
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>>82988483
Pretty much all of them started as street criminals though
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>>82989335
I dunno, the annoying hispanic chick in the first one was kind of background noise and not really a thematic issue. Preserving her life came up a few times but only for a few seconds each time.
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>>82989286
Number 1 and Number 3 for me.
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>>82989304

>I wonder what its like to be black and get jobs just for being black.

The jews have this advantage all the time, jewish nepotism is insane.

Whenever I see a white goy actor making it in Hollywood, I'm impressed, because he/she sure as hell had no help.
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>>82989093
the real problem is they aren't deporting the kids too. that's what i don't understand about the whole "you are breaking up families!" why though? send them all back to mexico and they can be together. Like, denmark is by most standards is an objectively better place to live then the US. But if me and my wife went there on vacation or something, and she had a baby there by chance or whatever, we wouldn't just leave the fucking kid there. "It's a better life for little jimmy, goodbye son". And we also wouldn't be fucking dirtbags and live there illegally, not pay taxes, suck up all their social program bucks so little jimmy could live in a better place. It used to be not controversial at all, among democrats and republicans alike that we should deport illegals. Not sure what the fuck changed, SJW's i guess, they took over the democrats.
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>>82986711
I don't know, does forced homogeneity hurt the quality of films?
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>>82988228
Very cute! Can't wait to see this make the cut!
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>>82988279

why there be so many white boys tho?
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>>82989335
>>82989122
>>82987095
>>82988085
Of all the criticism about the cast picture, being surprised that a Shane Black flick has a kid character is the best way to reveal yourself as a film illiterate redditor.

I'm not even gonna defend the movie, but for once a tired franchise revival gets handled by a director with a modicum of experience and talent, as well as actual ties to the original production, instead of some nameless TV hack. The other McTiernan/Arnold/Black film had a kid protagonist (Last Action Hero), and so did most of his other movies. Christmas settings and kids characters are his fucking trademarks. You should be happy they're letting him do his own thing instead of listening to suits and focus groups.

It also seems like most people ITT aren't aware that Black is not a serious filmmaker. He's always done dark comedies. This movie is supposed to take place in a suburban setting with civilians, with obvious satire and irony. It might turn out to be shit, but I'm glad it's doing something different, instead of trash like Predators which was just a soulless copy of the original's formula without any of McTiernan's talent or Arnol'd charisma.
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>>82989306
>Better yet, why not make a movie about Africa with an all white cast?
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>>82989229
i dont understand what i am reading, what is the point?
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Yes. Carl Weathers, Bill Duke and Sonny Landham were bad as fuck and perfect the roles as bad motherfuckers. These niggers like like nu-male fags with guns.
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