Who the fuck are these people? They are clearly not engineers.

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>>82935928
Indeed, notice how the real engineers have translucid skin, with a softer texture like a boiled egg, the eyes are also different.

Was it bad makeup or a different race?

>>82935928
BRIIITTTAAAINNNSS!!!!!

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More like who the fuck is shit?

Its clearly a machine-xenomorph-human hybrid when you compare it from the pure breed organic xenomorph from Covenant.

>>82936151
they were another race the engineers engineered. they thought it was the engineers (their jesus) coming back to say what's up. instead they got btfo

>>82936212
this is a retard assumption I keep seeing everyone making of late

the entire point was that they went to the engineer *homeworld*, not some ass backwater nth-planet

maybe those faggots are elitist pricks who don't wander around in bio-mechanical combat armor, but just dish out orders and ocassionally sacrifice one of their own to seed an entire planet's worth of their creations

they're probably lower caste engineers.

They're white males. Their extinction at the hand of a gay man is Scott's take on the future.

>>82936561
why would they all gather like that then? if it's just another ship coming home to port not jesus in the sky coming to jerk off all his children

>>82936647
>why would they all gather like that then?

who gives a fuck

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>>82936561
ridley scott said in an interview that the engineers on the planet that david bombed. are actually a rebel faction that oppose the other engineers (the assholes who want to kill humanity)

so david killed a a planet filled with innocents

>>82936151
It's clear the Engineers were messing a lot with biotechnology, their armor and ships look that way. Probably, their society was divided into castes highest of which were bioengineered and looked differently. The one we see in Prometheus prologue was a priest (it might have been some kind of a ritual like giving birth to a new life), the one in hypersleep was a scientist/warrior/whatever, and the op are common workers.

>>82936680
I GIVE AFUCK THIS MAKES NO SENSE

>>82936647
It's their safe space. A place where they can be racist white males together.

>>82936694
citation needed or fuck off

this shit was straight-forward as can be in the movie and it'd be bothersome if it became another Prometheus, because this time around nothing warrants that to be

>>82936776
just like /tv/ then?

>>82936694
why in fuck does this old faggot Ridley Scott think its acceptable to drop crucial plot points on interviews and not in the movies themselves?

>Reeeeee don't drop goo on us reeeeeeeee!

>>82936694
This is the fucking Alien, not that shit we saw in the other movies. How could people say this is the same species as the drones in Aliens or the purebreed in Covenant really baffles my mind.

My headcanon is David finds a way to give birth to xenomorphs by modifying his own body. He becomes THE Space Jockey in Alien and the xenomorph that spawns from him is half machine half organic.

>>82936694
>everybody wave at our enemy faction hurrdurr

the damage control from ridleyfags is unbelievable

>>82936838
i exposed this same theory weeks ago. stop stealing my OC, faggot.

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>>82935928
>tfw your creation's creation comes to your planet and drops the black goo intended for them

>>82936838
>>82936891

it's already fucking stupid that aliens/ xenomorphs had a Weyland-influenced origin instead of being something fucking scary and disturbing out of space, but this would be even worse

>>82936938
My interpretation of Ridley's universe, based on the relationship between the characters:

Engineers: white males
Weyland: Jews
The androids: homos
Aliens: blacks

>>82936694
After 35 years they seriously thought adding half a skull would make this more spooky?

>>82936694
>What? But I liked when the alien was just a mysterious monster from deep space! Are you telling me it was related to humankind all this time? It makes no sense! Well, except for all those human traits

>>82936978
i just dont want the space jockey to be a huge albino gay faggot. i want it to be a monstrosity.

>>82937065
But we already know the engineers wear space jockey suits. It's either an engineer or David.

>>82937048
you are genuinely retarded since you miss the entire point of this creature

>>82937031
this faggot, too

>>82936994
I think if we go a bit deeper, what at simple glance looks like diversity pandering is something more subtle than that.

Humans are a species gone wrong at the brink of extinction. And they show them all gay in a heavy religious movie. It cant be just pandering.

David is an atheist robot without morals. But he is also part human and thus flawed (doesnt remember well Ozymandias author). Walter tells him a single note can fuck up a symphony. The bit of human in him makes him flawed and with sin. He tries to rape the girl and engages in gay conversation/kiss with Walter.

If anything they show gay people as impious fucks that should be stoned.

>>82937123
its david turned into an elephant faced monstrosity.

>>82937031
Is this a joke? Thats the 1979 design as it appeared in the actual film.

In fact the skull is missing in all of the following media, starting with the lore raping Aliens.

>>82936838
It was a fossil for fuck sake, the space engineer and the xenos are milion years old, ridley is a fucking hack

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>>82937031
that pic I posted is from the Original movie.
they originally planned to go with that look for the alien, but decided to go with the dome over it.

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>>82937031
>Update
breh that is the original alien custom minus the translucent dome

>>82937258
Not enough pottery.

Engineers shouldve never been space jocleys but another specue with another spaceship and another types of xenos, perhaps trying to make their own after being at war with the space jockeys

>>82937277
Fake, she doesnt appear like that in the movie. Her head is normal and doesnt have bones coming from her.

In fact she only has the torso opened in half. There is no mutation. David probably extirpated her organs to create the xenos.

>>82937232
>In fact the skull is missing in all of the following media, starting with the lore raping Aliens.

technically all aliums have this, but future installments made the dome more opaque, which isn't a bad thing if you ask me, because part of the appeal of this thing was all the hidden creepy shit which ocassionally revealed itself to the viewer when they were paying attention, or when the camera framed it in a certain way

>>82935928

Pig skins yeting out

I dont want to alarm you guys, but I have sources that tell me that JAMES CAMERON is in this fucking thread shitting it up. He is still mad they retconned space bugs shit from Aliens.

In fact, James Cameron is the next poster. Ask him anything.

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>>82937369
forgot pic

Reminder that first the eggs were in a pyramid that the derelict ship had crashed in
Then the funds were cut so they didnt built it but still they say theres a hole on the ship, the top of the pyramid.
Then Ridley said that it was a bomber

>>82937277
Right. So they DIDNT do the skull? So it wasn't actually like that? Ok. So I'm right.

>>82937232
The skull was not even remotely that visible in the actual film. The head was much smoother than that too.

>>82937258
>It was a fossil
theres only one way to solve this and also make david the space jockey: time travel.

i hope ridley becomes the ultimate hack by going this route.

>>82937408
Too organic and bug like for my taste. He looks like a cockroach.

Where are the cables and biomechanical shit?

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>>82937391
why would james cameron worry about a movie that is clearly inferior to the Original Alien and Aliens movies.
when he is busy making 5 Avatar movies

>>82937419
No, you are wrong. They did the skull and its visible in many parts of the film.

>>82937475
it's just his head you fucking duck

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>>82937419
they still used it. it was just barely visible under the dome

>>82937499
Hi James.

Hows space pocahontas going on?

>>82935928
they evolved since whenever

>>82937512
>>82937542
I have never noticed this before and now feel silly. This feels strange to me that this was there all this time.

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man shaw must be the dumbest bitch ever
trusting david, who experiments on her

>>82937532
>>82937542
See, the head has cables

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>>82937423
This is the final suit as it appeared in the movie.

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WE

>>82937545
>james cameron was wanking himself over some blue lame-brained space furries all the while making The Abyss, Terminator, Aliens, Titanic and True Lies, and writing/producing Strange Days and Point Break

to me, this is one of the most dissapointing facts of life

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>>82937641
the runner alien from Alien 3 looked different though.
it lacked the tubes on it's back for examples and it mostly ran on 4 legs instead of 2.

>>82937747
WUZ

>>82937691
But if you look at any screenshot from the film the skull is not visible in the vast majority of it.

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>>82937747
died of aids

>>82937437
Me too kek

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>>82937783
now I'm kinda wondering if they were attentive enough to give that thing a dog/ oxen skull instead of a human's

can't see it clearly, but it might look a little different from a human skull

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>>82937793
it's hard to see because of the darkness in the scenes
but sometimes you can notice it

>>82937747
Now all the blacked theme makes sense
Alien was akways an alegory for the BBC

>>82937778
Lel it really is

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>>82937932
problem with the alien 3 runner is the color. even the dome is darker

>>82937932
What does /tv/ think of Alien 3's Assembly Cut?

>>82935928
This is CORRECT. Like the leaker who predicted EVERYTHING in the movie and the crossing trailer back in november, he confirmed that David combed the wrong race.

>>82936994

who are the mexicans?

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>>82938177
the bonus situation

>>82938174
but Shaw and David set the coordinates at the end of the movie Prometheus

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>>82938215
did somebody say sexy xenomorphs?

>>82938174
Post the leak please

>>82938149
It changes the movie from a 3/10 into a solid 7. You can see there is a really great movie below all that shit. The movie needs a third cut with the autopsy and all the shit intact. Fincher did a real sequel to Alien, way better than Aliens. Too bad the studio fucked him good.

>>82938149
I prefer theatrical, but a hybrid cut of the two would be the most ideal

assembly cut neuters some of the more gruesome parts in the theatrical version and relaxes some of Ripley's intense suffering; this is traded for more time on the convict planet and solving a plothole that most didn't notice was there anyway

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>>82938247
rate dem bodies

>>82936151
Probably cheaper, simpler, faster makeup because there are like 50 extras who only show up for less than a minute.

>>82936710
>>poo in the loo caste system thinking detected

please to do the needful and KYS

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>>82938331
the only really big change is the chestburster scene
the theatrical dog scene is brutal and bloody
the assembly cut ox scene is half off screen and the ox is already dead. while the dog was alive.

and i think the dude getting blown in the fan blades was shorter in the assembly cut version.

i do preffer the ending of the theatrical edition over the assembly cut. ripley holding on to the queen chestburster looked better then her falling down as a cross in bad looking cgi lead

>>82938350
You just did.

THey go from best to worse as the series progresses.

>>82938350
alien and aliens have the same torso design
alien resurrection, avp, and avp 2 also have the same body design
aline 3

>>82938453
this thing walks up to you in the club and slaps your ass with its dickgina.
what do you do?

>>82938608
GO AWAY JAMES, YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE

Just saw this last night, it was honestly enjoyable and some of the deaths were brutal. Tennessee's wife burning to death was really intense to me for some reason. My big gripes are too many characters with little to no development and pretty fucking bad CG. Also the xenomorph was not. Very spooky to me in this.

They were engineers

they look different because it was easier for the makeup crew.

scott killed them off to kill off prometheus so he doesnt have to explain anything

deal with it

this movie is terrible

>>82938629
the fuck has cameron got to do with toys based on one of the comic series?

>>82937634
is that really what happened to her, or was that just concept art done by david?

her face didn't look that fucked up when we saw her

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Who would win? A gorilla alien or a bull alien? My money is on the bull alien because he was literally the best toy of the line.

>>82938692
>Wtf has Cameron to do with Aliens having a bug like society with a Queen and other bug shit?

Geez I dont know

>>82938670
These movies aren't terrible because of Ridleys hackery. Still better than capeshit.

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>>82938706
>concept art
lol

maybe he reconstructed her like she did to her

another of his concept arts resembled pic related. She was probably getting gigered hard by his experiments

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>>82938620
be missing my lower half, as that thing was strong enough to slap half the queens face off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsJjfS-i2zM

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>>82938733
aliens > alien >>>>> alien 3 assembly cut >>>> alien 3 theatrical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alien ressurection

This is how the one from alien 3 shouldd've looked >>82938707

>>82938879
Spoken like a true pleb

Alien > prometheus=covenant > Aliens > assemby

The rest is not even worth mentioning

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>>82938776
haven't seen the movie yet. going tomorow
but i think he removed her womb to create the egg.
and then just did various experiments on her body to see the effects of his tampering with the black goo

>>82938990

Prometheus was shit. I don't fucking care where people rate the other movies, but if they don't either completely disregard Prometheus or place it on the bottom qualitywise they are wrong.

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>>82938990
nah my man
the pleb = You
Prometheus was a boring piece of shit movie that barely had anything to do with the Original movies

even senile old scott dislikes Prometheus

Aliens meanwhile improved on many things that alien lay the foundation for.
alien: 9/10
aliens: 10/10
Prometheus: 2/10
covenant: not seen yet
alien3 theatrical: 4/10
alien3 assembly: 7/10

alien ressurection: 3/10
AvP: 4/10
AvP2: 2/10

>>82938781
honestly that thing is a hundred times scarier than the xenomorphs could ever be.

>>82939043
>haven't seen the movie yet.
>but i think he removed her womb to create the egg.

if by womb you mean like 2/3rds the size of that woman's torso, then sure

Why are some people so offended by the idea that a species that hatches from eggs has a form that lays eggs? The Queen was a good idea.

>>82939189
fuck off whedon

>>82939221
because ''''''''bugs''''''''

>>82936838
The xeno we got in Covenant is called a PROTOMORPH whu doesa nobody know this, it was said ages agao

>>82939169
The only thing he didnt like its that it wasnt well received. Scott is a whore, he changed his whole plans because the audience didnt like it (now the same people are complaining why they dropped the prometheus plot and rushed into alien so fast) but probably inside his hearth he despises the plebbery of the people.

>Aliens higher than alien
Aaaaaand dropped.

>>82939262
>fuck off whedon
wait what?
explain

>>82939146
fuck off

>>82939221
The queen was too fuckable and not scary enough..

>>82939278
Continued

He is also old and he really wants to connect the movies to Alien 1. If a single one fails, they will delay the movies and he cant afford to waste time. He is already dying. So I cant blame him for being an audience whore. The gay pandering is also there so he could get score points higher on RT from liberal fags.

That being said, I stand 100% with the idea that he hates his pleb audience.

>>82939303
He wrote Alien resurrection.

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>>82939262
>implying bugs are the only organisms with a queen and hive structure

>>82939407
Fuck I didn't know this, no wonder the movie felt like quippy shit

>>82939428
Ok, show me mole eggs, stupid ret...oh its you James.

>>82938441
the ideology/mythos of prometheus is heavily influenced by proto-indo-european themes retard. hence the weird language they spoke in

>>82939305

Fuck you.

>>82938177
predators

>>82939456
he's incredibly butthurt about it, that a celebrated french director ''ruined his vision''

if anything, Jeunet elevated that unfunny piece of shit of his at least with a distinct visual style

I haven't seen the movie.
Let me get this straight.

David, the state of the art prototype android, is somehow repaired from being a head in a duffel bag as we last saw him in Prometheus, turns the tables and kills the woman who magically repaired him, and eradicates a random engineer hobo city, that despite being an advanced space fairing race has no advanced detection methods or defensive capabilities against a spaceship that is at least a few thousand years obsolete?

I don't care how backwater the planet is that's like a Somali pirate village getting btfo by a trireme.

>>82939549
stop liking what I don't like

>>82939598
green to green

red to red

it's meant to be simple

I vote for more Davids experimenting and giving up on "expaling" Space Jockey origins.
Black goo and David are the most interesting thing out of nu-Alien, and noone really cared about first movie backstory anyway.

>>82938770

This guy was cool as shit.
>also had the praying mantis one
>how the fuck did an alium hugger get on a fucking tiny ass praying mantis what the fuck

>>82939221
Scott's idea was that humans were slowly beign turned into eggs, while beign completily alive. Queen that lays eggs seems incredibly tame when compared to that.

>>82936212
This. They all had happy faces when the ship returned. They probably thought their Gods were returning and then they got holocausted. Beautiful scene. Could almost taste the tears of Prometheus fanboys in my mouth.

d-did david do all those terrible things to shaw while she was alive?

>>82939820
>and noone really cared about first movie backstory anyway.

speak for yourself you massive pleb

>>82938215
hmmm

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>>82939581
if it where up to whedon the xeno's would have talked and quipped

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>>82937232
>>82937369
>>82937691
>>82937423
>>82937691
>>82937793
>>82937956
Not once have I ever picked out the skull. The xenomorph is literally a space penis.

>>82936647
It's a ship that had been missing for thousands of years. They thought some of their long lost ancestors were returning home.

>>82937836
The hospital killed him.

>>82939994
We might propably find out in next movie. Scott said that it's gonna be set between Prometheus and Covenant, and have Shaw and David as main characters.

>>82936694
Even if that is true, it's bullshit if it is not established anywhere. That would be worse than those 10 page long biographies for random stormtroopers in Star Wars.

>>82940163
>between Prometheus and Covenant
Barf. Who give a shit.

>>82940163

>Scott said that it's gonna be set between Prometheus and Covenant, and have Shaw and David as main characters.


source? I dont believe he said that for a second

>>82936694
wait so how was david on the engineer's ship that btfo all the other engineers? didn't all this take place a millennia beforehand?

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>>82939820
>and noone really cared about first movie backstory anyway.
Oldfag reporting. Yes we did.

>>82940163
That sounds dumb as hell especially as Covenant ends on a sequel hook.

>>82940134
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolaji_Badejo
the dude who played the alien in the first movie.

>>82940113
not anyone's fault but you're own that you're a dolt

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>>82940163
>a prequel to a sequel of a prequel

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>>82940217
he had said that the next one he makes will be a prequal to covenant.

makes no sense to first make covenant, then a prequal and then a sequal to covenent

>>82936561
H O L Y F U C K

You are su fucking retarded i feel the need to gift you a spinner, give me your adress.

>>82939598
>and kills the woman who magically repaired him
It wasnt magical, David leads Shawn and directs her at evert step of the reperation. Plus these androids seem to have incredibly simple bodies. Hell, Ash is just made of small balls and Yogurt.

Why would they attack a ship they are clearly awaiting for with happiness? The whole city reunited to salute the ship.

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>>82936205
It's almost like Giger intended it to be some kind of biomechanical nightmare that's completely beyond human understanding and shouldn't logically exist.

>>82940163
Assuming there is a trilogy between Covenant and Alien

7, ( 8,9,10 not canon),1,3,2,4,5,6

Is this the most MADMAN order of release ever?

>>82940241
This. I thought at the end of Prometheus, the Engineer's ship got destroyed. I remember it crashing, and Shaw having to run while the thing rolls her down like some Looney Toons cartoon.

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>>82937747
>rape monster
>it's a nigger

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>>82939278
>Scott is a whore, he changed his whole plans because the audience didnt like it

This is a dumb way to talk about a guy who makes space monster movies for a living. If it was some kind of auteur writer-director that would be one thing, but Ridley Scott hasn't written anything in 50 years. He oversees group efforts whose purpose is to scare people and make people cheer and whoop.

To call him a whore for redirecting the path of a franchise as corrupted and fucked up as Alien is asinine. People waited twenty fucking years for Prometheus and many of them were disappointed. He is absolutely correct to take their reactions into account when making the followup.

>>82940558
In Prometheus David says there are many other ships in that planet and he could fly them.

>>82940264
Alright, genius. Let's see a shot of the skull in the movie.

>>82940217
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/alien-awakening-next-alien-movie-ridley-scott-1202011249/

>>82940578
Nah, he just doesnt have time. Its ok, he is a whore but I understand why is he whoring.

He will probably live 10 or 15 years more, but as director he has 5 or 7 years left. he cant afford a non successful movie or a delay.

I dont blame his whorish attitudes and how he closed up Prometheus. I hope the guy can live to see his wish come true, to finally tie up the saga with Alien 1979.

>>82940578
>He is absolutely correct to take their reactions into account when making the followup

And he did a shit job.

>>82940660
To be fair he changed his mind 5 times in the last 2 months. First it was sequel, then prequel then sequel, then he said 2 more movies, then he said 6 MORE MOVIES, now its 1 or 2 movies again.

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>>82940434
>7, ( 8,9,10 not canon),1,3,2,4,5,6

>>82940578
There were two unhappy camps in Prometheus. Those who were dissapointed because more questions were raised while nothing was really answered. And then those who said WHERES MUH XENOMORPH.

>>82940728
Oh and now it seems the prequel to covenant will be a book, not a movie.

>>82940434
Ridley is approaching the end of both his career and his life. He doesn't give a shit anymore.

>>82940365
So simple that she's able to synthesize the parts and materials required, while on an alien spaceship, using the clothes on her back and a small carry-on?
Nah.
It's silly.

>the engineers were happy to see the mysterious ghost ship that either somehow snuck up on them out of the blue, or was tracked as it entered the system while refusing to respond to all attempts at making contact.
Silly.
Where was the planetary equivalent of the coastguard? Or have they regressed so far that they've fallen back to preindustrial levels losing all knowledge of spaces travel, radios and radar, yet somehow still recognized an obscure multi-thousand year old spaceship as one of their own?
It's nonsensical.

>>82940883
They had the body you retard, They only had to solder the head back.

>>82940883
>I like mistery, but I dont like when they dont explain me everything!

Nigga, you are complaining about shit that will be told in future installments. Clearly this arent the same engineers. Either a different cast, a different society, a different faction or simply a different race.

>>82940883
That's why I made the thread. These beings are clearly not engineers but a race created by them. There's no sign of any advanced tech on the planet other than the engineer docking bay.

>>82938441
Kek

>>82941009
>they had the body
Did they?
Fair enough I suppose, I'm just going off of my memories from when I saw it in the theater.
Still seems a bit implausible to me but that's just me nitpicking.
>>82941063
>Nigga, you are complaining about shit that will be told in future installments.
Yeah right, lol. It sounds like a dodge to write the engineers out of the series.

>>82938174
this is fake, asshole.

>>82940129
>missing
was literally at the same spot for those years
there's no excuse to not investigate wtf happened to that group unless it was kept a secret

>>82936978
You want the Xenomorph to be fucking space bugs instead Bioweapons? disgusting!

>>82938879
>>82939169
>Aliens better than Alien

Underage faggots detected

>>82938372
Nahhh just the rendering failed